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Protect Systems
I actually have zero sympathy, so long, dude. Check out this
notice at their site, funny as all shit; the company produces
gear that tortures people and the family is 'shocked' at the
death of their loved one. Geezuz, how fucking poetic?
If there are no criminals and deviants how is this equipment
suppose to be sold? This company has 'exclusive distribution';
how fucking cool can that be?
So how does this work anyway? The state produces criminals
while companies produce really neat restraining gear?
"Too bad, the dude ofts himself."
I actually have zero sympathy, so long, dude. Check out this
notice at their site, funny as all shit; the company produces
gear that tortures people and the family is 'shocked' at the
death of their loved one. Geezuz, how fucking poetic?
- 1st October 2010
It is with great regret we announce the tragic death of our colleague and great friend Peter Boatman today.
At this point, it is inappropriate to comment on this terrible news apart from saying we are devestated and are sharing a state of servere shock and grief with Peter's family. Since Peter has been a part of our business he has shown incredible passion in bringing a friendly outlook to all he met.
His death is an incredibly sad loss and we extend our deepest condolences and thoughts to his family and friends at this very difficult time.
We share in Peter's family's request for privacy so we can all come to terms with today's awful news and hope you can respect this.
Pro-Tect Systems Ltd. was established in 2000 specifically to act as sole UK distributor for all TASER International products.
We have worked directly with the Association of Chief Police Officers, the Home Office and the police forces involved in the operational trials of the TASER® and now other government agencies. For more information on TASER® technology please visit www.TASER.co.uk
If there are no criminals and deviants how is this equipment
suppose to be sold? This company has 'exclusive distribution';
how fucking cool can that be?
- We are also responsible for exclusive distribution in Europe of the Emergency Response Belt limb restraining device and authorised resellers for branded tactical equipment and clothing. Please see our product information sites at and www.EmergencyResponseBelt.com or www.Pro-Tactical.com for our range of equipment & clothing, along with training and use of force expert witness services.
So how does this work anyway? The state produces criminals
while companies produce really neat restraining gear?
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Former police officer Mr Boatman, 57, was previously in charge of assessing the merits of Taser as head of operational training for the Northants force before leaving to join Pro-Tect.
A former police officer leaves the police to take control of the only company that makes these weapons that are sold to the police , yeah it stinks of "virtually legalised" corruption as i like to call it , and the european connection, easy to see hes just one puppet acting for big money behind the scenes, research and development etc
A certain amount of criminals (customers) are always required for these markets and the more public the better, would think the money men behind him, the moat situation was live on tv , so they utilised top publicity there for free
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http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/TR1BEJSJHRBVR8R4KDespite the fact that Climategate, Glaciergate, Amazongate, and a host of other mammoth, caught red-handed examples of global warming alarmists engaging in outright fraud to manufacture a link between CO2 emissions and climate change have been exposed over the last two months, geoengineering nuts are still insisting on the necessity of carrying out their own man-made climate change by loading the atmosphere with sulphuric particles in an effort to block the very source of all life on earth – the sun.
As we have previously highlighted, a prominent supporter of geoengineering proposals is none other than White House science czar John P. Holdren, a key Obama advisor who infamously co-authored a book in which he called for a “planetary regime” to enforce draconian population control measures such as forced abortion, infanticide and mandatory sterilization, as well as poisoning the water supply.
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Visit Tokyo, there are definitely too many people packed into this
comparatively small area all clamoring and competing on a daily
basis for resources including food, but...
The end result here is depopulation and now that 'global warming'
has completely collapsed, other means will have to become
apparent to reduce population. i.e., chemtrails, vaccinations, war,
disease, prolongation of cancer, chemicals and now this latest:
geoengineering.
Look at the extremes these people will go to promoting their religion
of green. You will find that No Pressure 'special effects' which simulate
children being blown up if they refuse to reduce CO2 emissions.
Imagine if you are into pedophilia and you are in one of these
online networks how you would get your rocks off watching this sick
piece of propaganda?
This is how 'global warming' has been going down:
What is the 'Triangular Traders' you may ask? The earth's
merchants located in the City of London and 'global warming'
was their creation to trade in carbon emissions.
But now you see, people are catching on to this scam out of
London so the Hegelian dialectical tacticians will now simply
change the wording; 'global warming' to 'Global Climate
Disruption.'
This is classic Soviet technique with the slate of hand simply
change the description.
These people are beyond surreal. Let's see, maybe the sun
has something else in store for us? Holy shit, now we're back
to cooling?! It's like living with schizophrenics on steroids?!
Ignorant, smug, greedy, cruel and stupid but Nemesis knocks.
comparatively small area all clamoring and competing on a daily
basis for resources including food, but...
The end result here is depopulation and now that 'global warming'
has completely collapsed, other means will have to become
apparent to reduce population. i.e., chemtrails, vaccinations, war,
disease, prolongation of cancer, chemicals and now this latest:
geoengineering.
Look at the extremes these people will go to promoting their religion
of green. You will find that No Pressure 'special effects' which simulate
children being blown up if they refuse to reduce CO2 emissions.
Imagine if you are into pedophilia and you are in one of these
online networks how you would get your rocks off watching this sick
piece of propaganda?
This is how 'global warming' has been going down:
- The City's allegedly-treasonous Triangular Traders use the Carbon Disclosure Project - a credit pool of $64 trillion with 534 institutional investors - to launder money through carbon offset deals with PPE politicians who think a megawatt-hour is a big question on 60 minutes.
What is the 'Triangular Traders' you may ask? The earth's
merchants located in the City of London and 'global warming'
was their creation to trade in carbon emissions.
But now you see, people are catching on to this scam out of
London so the Hegelian dialectical tacticians will now simply
change the wording; 'global warming' to 'Global Climate
Disruption.'
This is classic Soviet technique with the slate of hand simply
change the description.
- White House: Global Warming Out, 'Global Climate Disruption' In
September 16, 2010
White House science adviser John Holdren speaks at the National Press Club in Washington Oct. 8, 2009.
From the administration that brought you "man-caused disaster" and "overseas contingency operation," another terminology change is in the pipeline.
The White House wants the public to start using the term "global climate disruption" in place of "global warming" -- fearing the latter term oversimplifies the problem and makes it sound less dangerous than it really is.
These people are beyond surreal. Let's see, maybe the sun
has something else in store for us? Holy shit, now we're back
to cooling?! It's like living with schizophrenics on steroids?!
- Global warming theory in chaos after report finds increased solar activity may COOL the Earth
By Daily Mail Reporter
7th October 2010
A puzzling discovery has raised a question mark over the Sun's impact on climate change and could provide ammunition for sceptics, it was revealed today.
Until now it has been assumed that less activity from the Sun equates to less warming of the Earth. But the new research, which focuses on a three-year snapshot of time between 2004 and 2007, suggests the opposite may be true.
As solar activity waned at the end of one of the Sun's 11-year cycles, the new data show the amount of energy reaching the Earth at visible wavelengths rose rather than fell.
Ignorant, smug, greedy, cruel and stupid but Nemesis knocks.
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i am praying for a happy end for these people
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/10/10/chile-trapped-miners.html
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/10/10/chile-trapped-miners.html
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Meteor hits Columbia
Big space rocks seem to be hitting that plane of the earth. That crater in San Bruno California was supposed to be caused by a gas leak explosion, maybe it was something else.
Big space rocks seem to be hitting that plane of the earth. That crater in San Bruno California was supposed to be caused by a gas leak explosion, maybe it was something else.
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These reports of meteorites hitting earth and near misses; I'm
wondering, is this the initial stage of something perhaps a bit
more ominous of an event that happened roughly 1,000 years
ago and is only now catching up with us?
All the 'disclosure' recently; are we about to get nailed? Witnesses
to our own extinction?
Front row seats to impact folks?
You guys ready? Someone is preparing. These events have been
historically cataloged and kept well hidden.
We're still in after shock mode. Hate to come crashing
down on your picnic, but damn...
wondering, is this the initial stage of something perhaps a bit
more ominous of an event that happened roughly 1,000 years
ago and is only now catching up with us?
All the 'disclosure' recently; are we about to get nailed? Witnesses
to our own extinction?
Front row seats to impact folks?
- The approach of those promoting 'Disclosure' reflects the general lack of knowledge of the problems we face that are real and far more pressing than aliens on our planet. Mike Baillie points out that there is still enormous ignorance of the dangers even within the archaeological community. There is still no archaeological or historical paradigm to deal with the historical presence and influence of impacts. This is particularly troublesome in regards to 'Disclosure' since strange sightings in the skies and strange beings and events historically accompany cometary events. It's as though there is some dimensional doorway-opening capacity connected to the comets/asteroids.
You guys ready? Someone is preparing. These events have been
historically cataloged and kept well hidden.
We're still in after shock mode. Hate to come crashing
down on your picnic, but damn...
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Great website, some comments on quotes.
when people start going crazy, so they do there exorcisms, hypnotist trick healings and so forth. Is the kundalini going to be causing
increasing causing E-MOTIONal UPrisings.
interesting, something was destroyed on the 11, so the new one can take over, will it be the 2, 5, or 8. Which is the 528 solfeggioHey Ezekiel what do you say about those 4 Fixed signs, are they the Man 11, the Bull 2, the Lion 5, and the Eagle 8?
Hmmm, remember what though? Who we were or what we are going to be next?Essentially what both the Sator Square and the MNEME plate probably were…MNEMoNics…tools to help trigger the MEMorEE.
Now that is something, the christian church knows this too, they have end of time revivals specifically forThe SWASTIKA could also be the catalyst used to create an E event, an E-MOTIONal UPrising?
Could happen?
JAH WAY because YHVH is on the vay?
when people start going crazy, so they do there exorcisms, hypnotist trick healings and so forth. Is the kundalini going to be causing
increasing causing E-MOTIONal UPrisings.
It's obvious people are not worth saving to them.What is interesting is how our "fearless leaders" are looking at this problem. Their question is: "Is Earth and its human population worth saving?"
Comets would be a perfect way to get rid of people so tptb won't have to do the job, so why even bother telling people about the dangers of comets. tptb can repopulate again with their own CHOSEN hominoids or transhumans or whatever they got planned. Chaos may be around the corner and they may even have to leave earth for awhile and let the earth mend till they can repopulate again, just wondering.My guess is that they are trying to get everything locked down so that they can eliminate a lot of people with plausible excuses, and get away with it; that is, do it without risking the entire population turning against the PTB. And so, they play war games, they create terrorism, they play out farces of being at odds with one another when it is really the average human being in all countries who is the enemy of the leaders, all of whom - even if they play at being opposed to one another - are in the same club.
Similar to Winters theory how the pieces all fit with the golden mean. And as the emotions has flowing long waves affecting the outcome.ABC MODEL used in how genes in flowers pass on transcription factors FITS TOO!!!
And the understanding we already posses about how the transcription factors or information flows in the ABC Model illustrates how the MEMEs and TEMEs information FLOWS between the LEVELS, would be my archetypal guess at this point.
Planet X and it's brown dwarf star may have debris and meteors following it and why the earth and other planets are getting hit.Upon reading the reference to the 1931 Brazilian impact event, of which I had never heard, I googled it and the first link was a page on the Armagh Observatory website. Now, I visited that observatory not so long ago - last summer in fact, just around the same time that the Gulf loop current was shutting down - as my research collaboration was meeting there for a workshop. It's an old observatory, but still scientifically active with a fairly large research faculty. One of the main areas of research there is impact hazards. They're also very interested in brown dwarf stars, if memory serves.
Our tour started in the main meeting room, where we were given a short lecture on the history of the observatory. It was founded by Archbishop James Ussher, whose seal (a picture of which I've been unable to find) was displayed prominently on the wall. It featured a large inverted pentagram.
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Hi Rainyday, I think those were optical illusions?
So what's the reason for this besides some hidden form of mass manipulation. More abuse in life? Thousands of years of oppression? Miasims? Messing with horomones? Environment causing DNA to create the psychotic individual? Living an inauthentic life?
Talk about what's happening on the outside, so much going on inside......
Get ready for more as it will come crashing down again. Speaking of shock tgII, I completely agree with you that females are quite unbalanced, more so than males. Actually if I base myself in reality you never compared the two. So in that case, IMO, I believe females are more so emotionally dysfunctional than males, so therefore more mentally unstable. And you know how things are manifested and the subtler level, the emotions are closer to source which is the start of things, which is what waves do, so if one can be tweaked with in a not so good way with their feelings then the physical and mental will also be messed with.We're still in after shock mode. Hate to come crashing
down on your picnic, but damn.
So what's the reason for this besides some hidden form of mass manipulation. More abuse in life? Thousands of years of oppression? Miasims? Messing with horomones? Environment causing DNA to create the psychotic individual? Living an inauthentic life?
Talk about what's happening on the outside, so much going on inside......
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But most eyes are fixated on the outside ignoring the inside, thus angst seeds and sprouts in the repressionTalk about what's happening on the outside, so much going on inside......
Im scanning myself regularly for any issues
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Hi Nickor, I've heard about dwarf size ancient people living in the island caves, aren't there about 2000 of them? The original Phillipine people, before they got mixed with Asian and Spanish were an ancient tribe weren't they? A unique people of their own, like the bushman and aborigines of today.
I was reading more on those cone shaped heads, apparently they are not homo sapien sapiens. Exactly on the other side of the planet from where the ancient egyptians lived were there counterparts with the same skulls found in Mexico and further down south.
I heard the the arm crossed or held up like that in egyptian mummies signifies they are of royalty and of course the shape of their skulls. So perhaps those were too?
I was reading more on those cone shaped heads, apparently they are not homo sapien sapiens. Exactly on the other side of the planet from where the ancient egyptians lived were there counterparts with the same skulls found in Mexico and further down south.
I heard the the arm crossed or held up like that in egyptian mummies signifies they are of royalty and of course the shape of their skulls. So perhaps those were too?
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White House Adviser: US Must Prepare for Asteroid
Oh, and we like spending billions of dollars on something that poses no threat at all!!
http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/us-must-be-ready-for-asteroid-strike-top-science-adviser-john-holdren-says/19687765?icid=main|main|dl1|sec1_lnk3|180027
There is no problem here, stay calm, we just like scaring you for the heck of it. Besides you are going to die anyways.The White House OSTP office is working to establish plans and procedures in the event of a possible NEO threat to America.
Oh, and we like spending billions of dollars on something that poses no threat at all!!
http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/us-must-be-ready-for-asteroid-strike-top-science-adviser-john-holdren-says/19687765?icid=main|main|dl1|sec1_lnk3|180027
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Let's create some terror threats....It's U.S. election time....
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69U12C20101031
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-01/greek-police-arrest-two-men-as-parcel-bomb-injures-courier-company-worker.html
Al Qaeda, Terror, Bomb, Terror, Bomb, Terrorists, Bombs, Al Qaeda, Terror, terror, terrrrrrror.........
Yesterday's tabloid headline: "The Face Of Terror": depicting an arab., EVEN GOEBBLES COULDN'T DO IT BETTER! fuckin hell.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69U12C20101031
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-01/greek-police-arrest-two-men-as-parcel-bomb-injures-courier-company-worker.html
Al Qaeda, Terror, Bomb, Terror, Bomb, Terrorists, Bombs, Al Qaeda, Terror, terror, terrrrrrror.........
Yesterday's tabloid headline: "The Face Of Terror": depicting an arab., EVEN GOEBBLES COULDN'T DO IT BETTER! fuckin hell.
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Flames, a historical chance was missed in California. Californians must be the BIGGEST schizo's in the world.
Here in Germany - don't even get me started. Today they mentioned on the NEWS that we must all now tremble in FEAR
for GREEK TERRORISTS have risen to spread "chaos and destruction".
It was just a question of time for some false flag radical shit propaganda like that. Let's remember, just a few days ago the U.S. issued a terrorist warning for all of Europe and then SURPRISE SURPRISE...GREEK TERRORISTS appear on the scene, suposedly sending Merkel and Sarkozy some bombs per UPS. But they are a really fuckin funny bunch...they supposedly
also send some bombs to the embassies of "BULGARIA" and "CHILE".
"GREEK TERRORISTS SENDING POSTAL BOMBS TO WARN BULGARIA AND CHILE..." OMG OMG OMG!!!
I am dying from laughing so hard...please help me.
Those people who came up with this false flag PR gag are really DERANGED!!!
WHO THE FUCK BELIEVES THIS SHIT S-E-R-I-O-U-S-L-Y??? for crying out loud.
Here in Germany - don't even get me started. Today they mentioned on the NEWS that we must all now tremble in FEAR
for GREEK TERRORISTS have risen to spread "chaos and destruction".
It was just a question of time for some false flag radical shit propaganda like that. Let's remember, just a few days ago the U.S. issued a terrorist warning for all of Europe and then SURPRISE SURPRISE...GREEK TERRORISTS appear on the scene, suposedly sending Merkel and Sarkozy some bombs per UPS. But they are a really fuckin funny bunch...they supposedly
also send some bombs to the embassies of "BULGARIA" and "CHILE".
Bombs mailed by UPS delivery service disguised as parcels in Athens to the embassies of Switzerland, Germany, Bulgaria and Chile were intercepted on Tuesday, and eliminated through controlled explosions.
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=121785
"GREEK TERRORISTS SENDING POSTAL BOMBS TO WARN BULGARIA AND CHILE..." OMG OMG OMG!!!
I am dying from laughing so hard...please help me.
Those people who came up with this false flag PR gag are really DERANGED!!!
WHO THE FUCK BELIEVES THIS SHIT S-E-R-I-O-U-S-L-Y??? for crying out loud.
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hmmm....comets being discovered nearby lately even by amateur astronomers. They are not solitary travelers so what's bringing them. Is this solar system binary, is that other Sun carrying it's interstellar dust cloud with it.
A must see look at this Hartley 2 comet from Nasa recently.
http://www.aolnews.com/tag/comet-hartley/
A must see look at this Hartley 2 comet from Nasa recently.
http://www.aolnews.com/tag/comet-hartley/
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Ive no doubt there are many influences not completly understood about many drugs
If you ever get a spare moment over the next years, this would be an interesting subject to define as you say you have experienced it Bobdog
I personally dont beleive in a universal appliable depression , although i understand that any societal authority has to be seen to give a label to something before they can be seen to treat it and offer solutions
In western society , depression is what exactly, is there really any consistency before the doctors prescribe their pills
In eastern society it is something else
in tribal societys , its call the shaman time
A depression has to be an individual existing out of touch with their spiritual progression, that is why the depression bites, it is talking to the person, but the problem with society is that often that person is assigned to another person (expert) for assistance, and on the spiritual plane which is where i believe depression alludes to, that expert is often more ignorant than the patient , so the consequences are dire
The only person that can truly solve depression is the self, but most often requiring assistance from other selfs in relation to picking up skills or inner resources to combat the particular state of being with .
On that note, the state of depression more than any other, dictates that feelings become the most critical part of any healing, a depressed persona should only be around others that begin to make it feel harmonious or at least begin to offer the memory of harmony, as that is a quality that the depressed is lacking and needs badly and is the startpoint of any lasting healing
But possibly in a depressed state, the ability to identify authentic or intruder feelings may arise and this is a great danger i would think
but interested to hear any other thoughts
Have i been depressed ? i have been down so so deep in my psyche, and i have also been up so high , i dont really recognise societal labels as such which means i never also label others with them, but i do recognise them as signposts to certain states of declared being rather than a condition in themselfs
recover from depression.
If you ever get a spare moment over the next years, this would be an interesting subject to define as you say you have experienced it Bobdog
I personally dont beleive in a universal appliable depression , although i understand that any societal authority has to be seen to give a label to something before they can be seen to treat it and offer solutions
In western society , depression is what exactly, is there really any consistency before the doctors prescribe their pills
In eastern society it is something else
in tribal societys , its call the shaman time
A depression has to be an individual existing out of touch with their spiritual progression, that is why the depression bites, it is talking to the person, but the problem with society is that often that person is assigned to another person (expert) for assistance, and on the spiritual plane which is where i believe depression alludes to, that expert is often more ignorant than the patient , so the consequences are dire
The only person that can truly solve depression is the self, but most often requiring assistance from other selfs in relation to picking up skills or inner resources to combat the particular state of being with .
On that note, the state of depression more than any other, dictates that feelings become the most critical part of any healing, a depressed persona should only be around others that begin to make it feel harmonious or at least begin to offer the memory of harmony, as that is a quality that the depressed is lacking and needs badly and is the startpoint of any lasting healing
But possibly in a depressed state, the ability to identify authentic or intruder feelings may arise and this is a great danger i would think
but interested to hear any other thoughts
Have i been depressed ? i have been down so so deep in my psyche, and i have also been up so high , i dont really recognise societal labels as such which means i never also label others with them, but i do recognise them as signposts to certain states of declared being rather than a condition in themselfs
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On that note, the state of depression more than any other, dictates that feelings become the most critical part of any healing, a depressed persona should only be around others that begin to make it feel harmonious or at least begin to offer the memory of harmony, as that is a quality that the depressed is lacking and needs badly and is the startpoint of any lasting healing
But possibly in a depressed state, the ability to identify authentic or intruder feelings may arise and this is a great danger i would think
What about low frequency transmitions? I have heard there have been frequency machines developed that can "deplete" (apathy) people over a big radius in highly populated areas to control populations.
And chemtrails? Could they affect our moods through the high amounts of released chemical cocktails.
I am not wanting to depress anyone with these prospects, only wondering to what extent we can protect ourselfs from these hard to detect attacks from the enemies of the planet.
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Flames wrote:Looks like they finally did it.
Scientists re-create Big Bang in labBy Liz Goodwin
Scientists say they have created a mini Big Bang using the world's largest atom smasher, resulting in a temperature "a millions times hotter" than the sun's center, the BBC reports.
In an underground tunnel near Geneva, the European Organization for Nuclear Research smashed together particles inside the $10 billion accelerator known as the Large Hadron Collider, in an effort to learn more about the plasma that formed the universe a split- second after the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago. Scientists say a tiny ball of matter exploded and then quickly formed a melted "soup" of matter, which then re-ordered itself into what is now the universe.
The experiment, using lead ions instead of protons, produced the highest densities and temperatures ever created by scientists, and a kind of matter formerly unseen on Earth, The Telegraph reports.
"At these temperatures even protons and neutrons, which make up the nuclei of atoms, melt, resulting in a hot dense soup of quarks and gluons known as a quark-gluon plasma," researcher David Evans from the University of Birmingham told the BBC.
The Guardian explains that the moment the scientists are re-creating happened about 0.00000000001 seconds after the Big Bang, an interval when "protons and neutrons can't even stay whole."
Scientists are also trying to figure out more about the "strong force," which binds the nuclei of atoms and gives them most of their mass.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101108/od_yblog_upshot/scientists-recreate-mini-big-bang-in-lab
I just have a hard time believing any good can come of this. So basically, some of the top scientists in the world have got together, funded by god knows who, and re-created the big bang. Suppose these scientists finally figure out, what they've been looking for, "the strong force", which binds the nuclei of atoms and gives them most of their mass, as the article said. Then What?
Hello Flames, I have a few scientific problems with the Big Bang Theory....
Please read this critique on that Big Bang Theory:
BIG BANG DEBUNKED
by
Vernon Brown
Early in the 1900's Edwin Hubble discovered that there was a direct relationship between a red shift in the light spectrum of stars and their distance from the observer. Through the 1920's Hubble struggled to pinpoint the exact relationship between this red shift and distance. Hubble published articles and lectured frequently about the progress of his work.
Georges Lemaitre, a Belgian Catholic priest, pounced upon Hubble's publications and postulated the big-bang account of creation in 1927. He described an expanding universe that originated in an enormous explosion and cited the works of Edwin Hubble and Willem de Sitter as evidence. With one stroke of genius, Lemaitre upstaged the scientists and united religious creation with the latest scientific observations of his day.
Born of a priest and a mule skinner, the big-bang theory grew to plague the efforts of reasonable scientists.
Milton La Salle Humason began working at the Mount Wilson Observatory as a mule driver in the early 1900's during the time that Edwin Hubble did research there. Humason advanced in status through dedication to hard work and began doing telescope observations for Hubble's use. While he worked with Hubble, Humason became a student of Lemaitre's work and began advocating Lemaitre's account of creation.
Hubble pointed out that contrary to Lemaitre's ideas, the red shift was probably not due to the Doppler effect. If it were, he maintained, a projection of the present observations into the past would place all observable mass in one spot about 2.5 billion years in the past. This was much too little time to be compatible with other observations.
One of the main objections Hubble had to the big-bang theory came from his study of the brightness of certain stars. He maintained that if stars were receding at the rate indicated by their red shift their brightness should seem diminished. He observed that there was no such diminishing of brightness.
When Hubble died on Sept. 28, 1953, Humason was loosed from Hubble's leash. He worked ardently with several others and by 1956 they had worked some magic and changed Hubble's constant by an order of magnitude to make it compatible with the big-bang theory.
Hubble based the original value of Hubble's constant upon scientific analysis. He measured distances to stars by several means and then compared their red shift with these distances. He arrived at a value of 500. Big bangers changed this value to, "somewhere around 35 but certainly less than 50," to prevent conflict with the big-bang version of creation.
When one uses a value of 50 for Hubble's constant the distance to several galaxies discovered recently turns out to be 27 billion light years. Hubble's original value of 500 would put them at 270 billion light years. It is very strange that this number keeps changing with each new discovery.
Humason advanced in stature with the acceptance of the big-bang theory and finally became secretary of the Mount Wilson and Palomar observatories. Until his death on June 18, 1972, Humason continued to support the big-bang theory over all other accounts of creation. Supporters of the big-bang theory had easy access to the observational instruments controlled by Humason; opponents of the big bang did not.
While he lived and was of sound mind, Hubble approached the big-bang theory scientifically. He saw that the only evidence directly supporting it was the observed red shift. He concluded that this red shift could not be due to the Doppler effect because other observations conflicted with that idea. But Hubble began losing his memory in his early fifties and was never able to show the cause of the red shift. After his death most scientists gradually accepted that Hubble's red shift was caused by the Doppler effect.
Everything known to man changed with time, why could light not also age?
The Steady-State theory was proposed by Thomas Gold, Herman Bondi, and Fred Hoyle in 1948. They advocated that the universe had existed in a steady state forever. It was expanding, they suggested, but its density remained constant because new mass was continuously created. They calculated the amount of new mass that must be created to replace receding galaxies and found it to be about one hydrogen atom per cubic mile each year.
Gamma ray photons from galaxies must interact to form electrons in space just as they do in laboratories on earth. It does not take a genius to see that the amount could easily be one atom per cubic mile per year, but much less would actually be required if the universe were not really expanding. It is very possible that light moving through space continuously shifts toward a less energetic state--red shift. We know very well that light does this in the Compton effect where a photon bounces off an electron and loses energy.
Sir Fred Hoyle's fame came mainly from his work in showing that recycled stars could produce all the elements found in nature. He showed in detail how atomic reactions would proceed from the element hydrogen all the way through to the heaviest elements known. He proved that there was no need for a big bang to explain how nature formed the heavy elements.
The Photonics Universe is a non-expanding natural orderly system that has existed forever.
According to photon theory the universe is an electromagnetic structure comprised only of photons. These photons exist free in space where they are observed as light, and they also exist in phase-locked patterns, where they are observed as mass.
When electrons and positrons collide they produce gamma- ray photons. These photons may interfere with each other and become phase-locked in patterns. They then become electrons and positrons again.
When such collisions occur at very great speed, photon flux of the collisions produce protons and neutrons. Neutrons are unstable by themselves in space, and decay to become electrons and protons in a few seconds. Protons produced in electron-positron collisions collect electrons and become hydrogen atoms in accordance with the rules of Quantum Electrodynamics.
Protons formed out of electron-positron collision debris collect electrons to become hydrogen atoms and migrate toward each other, attracted by their gravity. These atoms gather in huge clouds and move toward other concentrations of mass. Currents and eddies form in the clouds, causing lumps to accumulate. In the lumps pressure builds to atomic fury fusing hydrogen atoms into helium. A star is thus born.
Billions of stars gather to produce galaxies most of which are about a hundred thousand light years in diameter. Stars in the galaxy age and die in explosions creating the heavy elements by the process that Sir Fred Hoyle discovered. Burnt-out stars gravitate toward the center of the galaxy.
All mass in the Photonics universe gravitates toward the center of the closest galaxy. Stars in the galaxy churn the mass into increasingly heavier elements through atomic fusion. Fission and fusion reactions continue as stars recycle their mass through birth and death. Mass becomes light in star-rich galaxies and they spew photons outward into space.
Photons and some small particles contain enough energy to escape the galaxy. Others without enough energy to escape churn through the process again and again until all mass eventually becomes light; all light eventually becomes mass, and the cycle continues throughout the life of the galaxy.
Photons and small particles that escape the galaxy gravitate toward concentrations of mass. These repeat the cycle as they become part of another huge cloud of debris and the process goes on and on.
Big Bangers have become fewer with recent new discoveries.
Halton Arp of the Max Planck Institute for Astrophysics in Munich, Germany wrote in a letter published in the July 27, 1991 issue of the AAAS publication, Science, "They [big-bangers] overlook observational facts that have been piling up for 25 years and that have now become overwhelming. Of course, if one ignores contradictory observations, one can claim to have an 'elegant' or 'robust' theory. But, it isn't science."
Recent observations have turned up several new classes of objects that violate the big-bang's most basic assumption. Many are too distant to fit the big-bang age of the universe of about 20 billion years. Others show that the universe is structured with vast ribbons of galaxies that could not have reasonably formed in less than about 200 billion years. But, of course, Big Bangers abandoned reasonableness as a test for reality long ago when Hubble's scientific observations were changed by more than an order of magnitude to make them fit the big-bang dogma.
Most scientists agree that the milky-way galaxy and the solar system are now evolving. Some put the solar system about midway through its life, others a little younger. Its farthest rocky planet, Mars, seems to have cooled through a time of water-rich life and now its second farthest, Earth, blossoms. In the future, Earth should cool to be like Mars and Venus should cool to become the planet where water-rich life evolves.
Those who believe that nature is controlled by an all- powerful deity may consider that photons are the thoughts of God. Since this idea can not possibly be proven false, it can not be scientific. This is a condition the idea shares with all religions, none of which are based upon true scientific thought. Philosophers reason that only science must obey the rules of science, religious ideas must be tested with their own rules.
If photons were the thoughts of God, all of nature would be at His whim. And, since His thoughts are the universe, man can only know one God.
Photon theory is therefore consistent with religious beliefs. It does not insist upon them, but it also does not condemn them or ban religious thought. It is not secular, all religions can fit within its structure. In fact, photon theory provides a reasonable way for believers to conceive of a true deity and hold that deity to be all powerful in nature.
Recent discoveries at the University of Maryland show that single photons trapped in resonant cavities behave just like the most elementary particles of mass. They possess electrical charge and inertia, and all other properties of mass that scientists can measure. They even exhibit the relativistic distortion that all other massive objects exhibit when scientists subject them to rapid motion.
All these things indicate that some form of photon theory will dominate the physics of the 21st century. Students of science see it easily, but old scientists ignore its obvious reality. Max Planck pointed out that this is the normal way of scientific processes. New ideas must wait for the old keepers of the faith to die before they are accepted, but just as surely as death must come to the old, these new concepts will see their day in the sun.
Now about the Large Haldron Collider - there are some hefty rumors on what these guys are actually trying to do to our reality.
According to Prof Irina Arev'eva & Dr. Igor Volovich:
Prof Irina Aref'eva and Dr Igor Volovich, mathematical physicists at the Steklov Mathematical Institute in Moscow believe that the vast experiment at CERN, the European particle physics centre near Geneva in Switzerland, may turn out to be the world's first time machine, reports New Scientist.
Prof Aref'eva and Dr Volovich believe the LHC could create wormholes and so allow a form of time travel. "We realised that closed timelike curves and wormholes could also be a result of collisions of particles," Prof Aref'eva says.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron-collider/3324491/Time-travellers-from-the-future-could-be-here-in-weeks.html
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