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Post  tgII Sat 27 Mar 2010, 11:33

I volunteer to get collided in that hadron collider. Just put me in
that tube and press the button, in seconds my body would be
traveling faster than the speed of light, I'll be sure to let everyone
know how the ride was.
What a Face

Hey guys, did you know Pope Ratzinger has an official visit to
Britain for a ritual in September?
Do you realize this is the first
time ever a Pope has visited Britain because the Vatican has
been at war with Britain for centuries.

What is going on? Why is the Vatican coming apart at the seams
with all these recent pedophile scandals?
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Post  KapitanScarlet Sat 27 Mar 2010, 14:24

The "RATZINGER" is due to meet her lizardship in her Edinburgh residence of Hollyrood at the bottom of the rOyal mIle in Edinburgh for the "uniting Rituals"

There is going to be some big protests ready for him regarding these continuing deviant sexual acts and abuses that are exponentially occuring in their party

POpe JOhn pAul was in Scotland in 1982 , i remember a big stadium (murayfield) full of "worshippers" to meet him, the sort of stadium that U2 frequent , those were the days when they had complete control over their deviant behaviours and kept most of it in their infected jar away from public scrutinys
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Sat 27 Mar 2010, 17:53

What is going on? Why is the Vatican coming apart at the seams
with all these recent pedophile scandals?

I find Tsarion's elaborations regarding Pluto, Shiva, Age of Aquarius and Age of Revealing, the 2011-2013 timeframe (not all the 2012 bullshit out there), and deconstruction all to be most useful in this regard. Try reading the short introduction section under the topic 2012 Age of Revealing on his forum.

There is a collapsing of the false Matrix and this timeframe must be utilized to reconfigure a new one of control. Also new approaches to manipulating this changing matrix in regards to the Jew-European Royalty John Dee Enochian Masonic Checkerboard, Churches and the geomantic structure control grid. As well as the Kabbalistic and Goetic magical systems of the Jew-Vatican parasites.
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Post  seraphim Sun 28 Mar 2010, 04:50

tgII wrote:
What is going on? Why is the Vatican coming apart at the seams
with all these recent pedophile scandals?
Really, who would have known. Shocked They are so transparent. It seems that what they are doing is some kind of change for the new paradigm. They have been doing horrible things for a long time, but no one cared so they continue, but just recently they are saying they are bad and admitting it, so the people will do something then, or they want someone to do something so they can change into the new order. In other words they need a way to change their old system. So folks will say yeah, get rid of all that and then they make a new monster that folks will dig.

Out with the old in with the new, they have been doing it for centuries. But it's really the same ole, same ole.
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Post  seraphim Sun 28 Mar 2010, 05:24

I have a little tete a tete with you tgII. I disagree with you about Ayn Rand. Excuse me folks. If you want to debate fine, and I might be wrong about her, but not on her work.

A lot of her work is based on self empowerment that's why she was extreme. But people are so deprived and full of evil that think self empowerment is about stepping all over everything. And that is not true at all.

She was rough on others, because otherwise they wouldn't be able snap out of it.

She was showing us what willpower is and what it can do, but a person wouldn't know what that was even if it hit them in the face.
And in a human that is filled with corruption already, willpower could be used to harm others like a weapon.
So in that case, it wasn't Ayn Rand's fault that Greenspan, of puny mind, mistaken her motto that individuals have the right to live
entirely for their own interest. He used her like other big named people did.

You know her work inspired people so much that they were able to manifest, just as Greenspan did, but he used it for selfish reasons.
She had no control over what others would do with her work. And of course it always gets twisted up. She had no responsiblilty for others who took her blueprint and created a monster. People can take her blueprint and do wonderful things, but no evil always has to mess things up. Just look at the AtlasShrugged website, not one quote or anything from Ayn Rand only about current politics and this and that.

Rand said she “set out to show how desperately the world needs prime movers and how viciously it treats them” and to portray “what happens to a world without them.”

And of importance, if a person dies with everyone at their throat and broken. What does that tell you. Evil wanted them gone.

Ayn Rand on evil.
http://eternalu.wordpress.com/what-ayn-rand-knew-about-dictators-the-worlds-end/
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Post  tgII Sun 28 Mar 2010, 13:01

  • I have a little tete a tete with you tgII. I disagree with you about Ayn Rand. Excuse me folks. If you want to debate fine, and I might be wrong about her, but not on her work.


Time for tete a tete, I think.

Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum aka Ayn Rand, ostensibly a Russian Jew, although now Jews are not who they say they are, their history has been fabricated to their particular bent on the rest of us leading ultimately to racism, i.e., supremacy, racism, da Jooooz, the chosen ones. That might be fine on an individual basis along the lines of meritocracy, the Jews, or who ever they are, have inculcated this from birth in their children, I suspect this was taught Ayn Rand in Russia just as Stalin was purging Jews. Ayn Rand, did you have an axe to grind?

Heavy smoker and intellectual bully, ugly too:

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  • A lot of her work is based on self empowerment that's why she was extreme. But people are so deprived and full of evil that think self empowerment is about stepping all over everything. And that is not true at all.


I'll say, so much so in fact look what Wall Street gave us, et al Alan Greenspan, complex derivatives, bankers on steroids, the economic rape of American industry, profit run by psychopaths, Ayn Rand alright, they were all influenced by her so called 'objectivist philosophy', it was like taking the gloves off in a boxing ring to fight your opponent when he agreed to fight like a 'gentleman', or worse, brass knuckles under the gloves.

The average person on the street doesn't understand what self-empowerment is, few Americans read any more than three books a year, probably shit novels, if they did we probably wouldn't be where we are now, at least in America where the current empire is now on its death watch. Ayn Rand unleashed the metaphysical Satan on us, be careful, ideas have profound and lasting effect.

  • She was rough on others, because otherwise they wouldn't be able snap out of it.


They haven't snapped out of it, they are worse off, Ayn Rand stripped man of his soul for commerce and trade.

  • She was showing us what willpower is and what it can do, but a person wouldn't know what that was even if it hit them in the face.


A few thoughts: Will power without constraint or restraint and a voice on the opposite receiving the will of the opponent is hell on earth. Imagine for a moment, your IQ comes in at 165, you work on Wall Street, Goldman Sachs pays your bills, over the weekend after having champagne, good sex and reading Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrug from page 986 between orgasms, you become inspired. Monday morning you return to work in new York with a vengeance and you pillage a pension fund of $150 million dollars because it took 'will power' to ravage the accounts of innocent people to pay off a merger transaction. Atlas didn't shrug, he just shit all over those 3,000 plus employees who just lost their pension. Ideas have consequences.

  • And in a human that is filled with corruption already, willpower could be used to harm others like a weapon.


Yes, 9/11 seemed to be a rather good example but I rather doubt any of the criminal understands what being a psychopath is and what being a simple criminal is.

  • So in that case, it wasn't Ayn Rand's fault that Greenspan, of puny mind, mistaken her motto that individuals have the right to live entirely for their own interest. He used her like other big named people did.

Americans had anideology before Ayn Rand ever showed up, it's what made Americans the envy of the world, their inventions, their creativity, their constantly giving and being taken advantage of, at least before WWII, their open minds and hearts to strangers and their hard work. Ayn Rand philosophized; Americans built railroads, beautiful homes, infrastructure, buildings and produced wonderful art pre-Ayn Rand.

  • You know her work inspired people so much that they were able to manifest, just as Greenspan did, but he used it for selfish reasons.


She headed straight for Hollywood. She didn't inspire many people I know. In fact, many of us spent hours and days debating any merits she is supposed to have contributed to how Americans thought. It's like Edward Bernays, he was praised and brought to New York and from his work Americans became thoroughly brainwashed and under the control of his nefarious manipulation of the mass mind. Ayn Rand and Edward Bernays, two peas in the same pod, no, wait, make that three peas in the same pod, put Milton Freedom in their too, the father of free trade. These people have disturbed the minds of previously sane people.

  • She had no control over what others would do with her work.


Look at the results.

  • And of course it always gets twisted up. She had no responsiblilty for others who took her blueprint and created a monster. People can take her blueprint and do wonderful things, but no evil always has to mess things up. Just look at the AtlasShrugged website, not one quote or anything from Ayn Rand only about current politics and this and that.


All Ayn Rand did was to dust off Aristotle and put his philosophy on overdrive. Reason became his God and it became the God of Ayn Rand. The biggest fallacy of Ayn Rand and which readers of her work are not protected against, is that Edmund Burke regarded with great suspicion any theory of rights which appeared founded, not on extensive experience, but merely on rationalistic speculation and “metaphysics.”

For the best critique and elaboration of Ayn Rand's dead objectivist philosophy, I suggest Greg S. Nyquist who lays it bare for those who casually read Ayn Rand with unprepared minds.

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Good night, Ayn Rand. Suspect
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Post  seraphim Mon 29 Mar 2010, 04:46

I'll start off with your statement H and then I'll reply to tgII.
I have something for Nyquist that will stun him for a minute. Why is it that Ayn Rand's work when applied was successful not only that but the big guys knew it would be, and used it to their selfish benefits, and none of the other philosopher's work or talk that Nyquist supports did NADA and produced no manifestations.
Nyquist wrote:
Rand believes (at least implicitly) that political and social reality is simple enough to be adequately represented in abstract principles derived from “reason” (i.e., conscious deliberate reasonings guided by “logic”). Burke, as an experienced statesmen, knows that Rand’s view of political and social reality is false: the reality confronting the statesman is simply far too complex to be summed up in a few abstract rules.
Everything doesn't have to be complex, Nyquist, it just takes one decision most of the time. And using your own mind (meaning that you are an aware person) and with your own will power will most likely make you correct about most things, including the realities that go on. It's not an abstract rule it's about going in the right direction with the individual in control.
A reason why I talk to people on this forum is because they understand that and figure things out quickly, it's not complex at all, and know the reality of things. The complex thing is to get the mind back!

Burke would regard Rand’s politics as merely “metaphysical” (by which he would mean: founded, not on experience, but on rationalistic speculation). Rand’s notion of establishing the state on her very simple concept of individual rights—a concept, moreover, which can never be compromised upon, regardless of the consequences—Burke would find as “fundamentally defective.” And Rand’s implicit confidence in her own reasoning powers, which allowed her to arrive at principles concerning matters that she knew little if anything about, Burke would view with dismay. In contradistinction to the speculative rationalism of Rand’s politics, Burke would assert his most element insight—namely, that the science of government requires extensive (and intensive) experience, “even more experience than any person can gain in his whole life, however sagacious and observing he may be.” This is the key insight that most differentiates the political thinking of Burke, Hayek, Oakeshott, Sowell, Michael Polanyi, and other sophisticated conservatives from Rand and her disciples.

What does all those other philospher's work have to show. Nothing like I said. Look what the monsters did to Ayn Rand as well as her work. They used it and it certainly worked, because she knew what she was talking about, but they used it for their own devious purposes.

Nyquist has lost his marbles....
History is replete with examples of individuals who benefited from slavery over a long life.
This world can make you tough all right and you might see that as a benefit, but it really is not. It's like saying
you get enough beatings in your life then you learn the hard way and all that. We are missing something here folks, THERE IS NO
NEED FOR SLAVERY OR HURTING OTHERS. Folks DO NOT have to experience abuse, but that's how it's always been so they take it. And to have a blog making Ayn Rand as the biggest target tells me something about this fellow,
he is out for the hunt. Why do you she has been hounded not only while alive but to this day.

Rand
Rand’s theory of human nature is based on the idea that the human mind enjoys complete sovereignty over the body and the will. “Everything we do and are proceeds from the mind,” Rand once declared. ”Our mind can be made to control everything.”
Nyquist objects this and says...
his conviction that man creates himself is fundamental to her entire philosophy. In order for a man to be genuinely ideal in Rand’s eyes, he had to be able to take full credit for all his characteristics. He couldn’t merely have been endowed with them at birth – no, he had to create them out of nothing with his own unaided effort, like Baron Munchhausen pulling himself out of the mire by his own hair.
But he doesn't realize how true Rand's statement is and that if you don't mold yourself first, take hold of your reigns, some else
will do that for you. Humans are vessels first of all and from the time they are born they are fully controlled by what's outside of them.
It's called taking responsibility for yourself once and for all Nyquist........
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Post  seraphim Mon 29 Mar 2010, 05:52

Exactly tgII, Jews were made up to create hate, but she was not writing from a 'choosen one, I'm a Jew' point of view. She included everyone and wasn't racist like that. Also if you are born into a religion you automatically have to blindly accept it, which most do and not only that but it makes a person feel they are more important than others or high and mighty.
She is a Jew and would naturally be on Isreal's side, because she was programmed to be. But she didn't know the big picture and things changed somewhat after she died, I'm sure she wouldn't have accepted Isreal then.
The average person on the street doesn't understand what self-empowerment is, few Americans read any more than three books a year, probably shit novels, if they did we probably wouldn't be where we are now, at least in America where the current empire is now on its death watch. Ayn Rand unleashed the metaphysical Satan on us, be careful, ideas have profound and lasting effect.
Her work unleashes power, but in this world it's used in a corrupt way. People could use it to do good things or that will benefit everyone. But her work was used by little Satans instead. Everything she said was against those folks Satans, who continually used her and broke her in life till she died.


A few thoughts: Will power without constraint or restraint and a voice on the opposite receiving the will of the opponent is hell on earth. Imagine for a moment, your IQ comes in at 165, you work on Wall Street, Goldman Sachs pays your bills, over the weekend after having champagne, good sex and reading Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrug from page 986 between orgasms, you become inspired. Monday morning you return to work in new York with a vengeance and you pillage a pension fund of $150 million dollars because it took 'will power' to ravage the accounts of innocent people to pay off a merger transaction. Atlas didn't shrug, he just shit all over those 3,000 plus employees who just lost their pension. Ideas have consequences.
It can get a person sidetracked alright. Well, I am glad you brought up sex. Because that is another power that is abused, it is the same as what happened to Rand's work, it was used to harm others. Her work was powerful, the big boys knew that and used it to their full advantage. But tgII, you are one of the few males that knows what sex can do to a person, especially a guy, it makes them defective, because they don't know what sex can do. And no one is allowed to talk about that powerful force. I read your past opinion here on that matter, so you realize. Champagne?? You forgot the grass, don't forget next time! No
Yeah folks use willpower and imagination for selfish reasons, because they are completely taken over.
She headed straight for Hollywood. She didn't inspire many people I know. In fact, many of us spent hours and days debating any merits she is supposed to have contributed to how Americans thought. It's like Edward Bernays, he was praised and brought to New York and from his work Americans became thoroughly brainwashed and under the control of his nefarious manipulation of the mass mind. Ayn Rand and Edward Bernays, two peas in the same pod, no, wait, make that three peas in the same pod, put Milton Freedom in their too, the father of free trade. These people have disturbed the minds of previously sane people.
Well she wanted to go into film and that was the place to go, plus there are many jews in show businesss who she could have used.
Actually almost all the people given to use are fronts, but some don't know they are ones (just as people in America don't think they are slaves), to brainwash us. They did the same thing to Ayn Rand, but I don't believe she knew and that they used her. The amazing thing as that a man named Branden was planted in her life earlier on to wreck it! Will get to that later.
She didn't inspire people because they are not capable of using their own minds in order to use her work. In other words not capable of inspiring themselves. The Greenspan's of this world knew that the work of Rand's, that if used in a good person's aware mind could be dangerous and so they hogged it for themselves.

By the way she went to hollywood, not for that reason but for this.
orn in St. Petersburg in 1905, Alyssa Rosenbaum saw her first movie and read

her first work of fiction at the age of 9, and she promptly decided to become a

writer of books and movies.

Look at the results
Did I say monster three times already.


All Ayn Rand did was to dust off Aristotle and put his philosophy on overdrive. Reason became his God and it became the God of Ayn Rand. The biggest fallacy of Ayn Rand and which readers of her work are not protected against, is that Edmund Burke regarded with great suspicion any theory of rights which appeared founded, not on extensive experience, but merely on rationalistic speculation and “metaphysics.”

For the best critique and elaboration of Ayn Rand's dead objectivist philosophy, I suggest Greg S. Nyquist who lays it bare for those who casually read Ayn Rand with unprepared minds.
The best critique is your own, if you are in your right mind that is! It's up to you and not anyone else! So read her books and decide for yourself folks.
She actually deviated from Aristotle and picked on his logic theory.
http://reason.com/blog/2009/10/30/ayn-rands-aesthetics-nockian-n
http://www.amazon.com/Reason-Value-Aristotle-versus-Rand/dp/1577240456

I do not trust Aristotle (although his ideas are like a script for sheeple and he knew the inside and out of people, why I can see people used his work because it is right on, as he got his ideas from others who studied people for a long time. Probably the controllers.) and probably the first to implement big government on them, see here.
"Aristotle's philosophy was the intellect's Declaration of Independence.
Aristotle, the father of logic, should be given the title of the world's
first intellectual, in the purest and noblest sense of that word. No
matter what remnants of Platonism did exist in Aristotle's system, his
incomparable achievement lay in the fact that he defined the basic
principles of a rational view of existence and of man's consciousness:
that there is only one reality, the one which man perceives--that it
exists as an objective absolute (which means: independently of the
consciousness, the wishes or the feelings of any perceiver)--that the
task of man's consciousness is to perceive, not to create, reality--that
abstractions are man's method of integrating his sensory material--that
man's mind is his only tool of knowledge--that A is A.

If we consider the fact that to this day everything that makes us
civilized beings, every rational value that we possess -- including the
birth of science, the industrial revolution, the creation of the
United States, even of the structure of our language -- is the result
of Aristotle's influence, of the degree to which, explicitly or
implicitly, men accepted his epistemological principles, we would
have to say: never have so many owed so much to one man."
That is scary if you ask me.

Thank you Ayn Rand for sharing, I'm not going to use your work for bad.
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Post  seraphim Mon 29 Mar 2010, 06:18

Now for the research. Excuse me for a second.
Brandens' slant on Ayn Rand's life and work has been
in circulation since 1986, and as a result her saga has been
characterized in the minds of many as yet another soap opera of
sex and betrayal, only this time with a cast of dysfunctional
intellectuals between the sheets.

Nathaniel Branden, according to the accepted scenario, was a
20 year-old newly married fan of Rand, who had committed her book
"The Fountainhead" to memory. Evidently, his own brilliance
inspired Rand, age 45 and already married to actor/painter
Frank O'Connor for 25 years, to take Branden as her lover,
and then become partners with him in the Nathaniel Branden
Institute, formed to spread her philosophy of Objectivism and
to recruit a growing number of adherents. According to the

Brandens, Nathaniel's wife Barbara and Rand's husband Frank O'Connor
generously gave their blessing to the affair. The 1960's, after
all, were the days of sexual license, and various kinds of
'open marriages' were acceptable in some quarters.

Looking back, these unconventional relationships were almost
diametrically opposed to the demanding personal standards for
integrity advocated in "The Objectivist," the newsletter
of the same name on which Branden and his mentor collaborated.

How was all this consistent with "Randian Philosophy"?
Were these behaviors somehow to be interpreted as examples
of the "rational self-interest" Rand believed in as the highest
virtue, the highest good, in Aristotelian terms? Didn't Rand's
conduct ultimately discredit her own philosophy, as many
disillusioned followers came to regret? Or was the story of
these peoples' tangled lives presented to the public, years later,
in such a way as to deliberately deceive?

The current analysis of James S. Valliant zeroes in, however, on the discrepancies
in the accounts of Nathaniel Branden and his first wife Barbara. He painstakingly sifts
through the accounts in their books, comparing them with Ayn Rand's own journals,
and he discovers what he believes is a pattern of lies, specifically intended to
smear Rand's character and undermine many of her original philosophic positions,
which Brandon surprisingly maintains in his later years he never honestly agreed
with in the first place, even while assuming a major role in teaching them to others

he year 1968 saw an historic upheaval in the ranks. It is known to this day
as "The Break". Finally, Ayn Rand perceived the truth that she had been used
and manipulated in various ways by this couple for 15 years or more. She
officially expelled them from the Objectivist ranks and severed all ties
legally and financially. In Rand's 1968 written report in "The Objectivist
Newsletter," she accused Nathaniel Branden of failing in his professional
responsibilities, deliberately deceiving people, and exploiting her financially.

he Brandens, once Ayn Rand died in 1982, and with all the
other members of the inner circle related to them by family
and other close ties, subsequently felt secure to spread the
story that at the time of "The Break," Ayn Rand showed her true
colors, having always been dictatorial, intolerant, vindictive,
and jealous. She behaved, then, true to type, as "a woman scorned."
And yet a nagging question remains in my mind.
Admittedly bold-faced liars, is the Brandens' claim that Nathaniel
was really the lover of Ayn Rand to be believed? With a Rothschild
connection to Greenspan, is there also a Rothschild connection to
Branden? There is virtually no material available regarding his
contacts during his university days in California, while earning a
BA in psychology at UCLA. There is no information to be found
concerning his parents or his childhood, other than his own anecdotal story
that after failing his freshman year of high school in Brampton, Ontario, Canada,
he was allowed to enroll in an adult school with an accelerated program, and then
graduated two years early. He worked in the family jewelry store in Toronto for a
year before going off to college to California.

It was well-known among "The Collective" group in New York that as a young man
Branden had committed every single line of "The Fountainhead" to memory.
He would playfully challenge people to read a sentence from the book, skip a
sentence, and then read the next. Branden infallibly could supply the missing
sentence, word-for-word. No, he did not claim to have a photogenic memory.

But I believe it is significant that the post-war years in California saw the
beginning of many projects in psychological research, and Nathaniel
Blumenthal/Branden was a psychology major. His 'parlour magic' mental gymnastics
could well indicate his own programming experiences. More than one California
university has been implicated in sophisticated intelligence agency work. Could
Branden's original meeting with Ayn Rand, the result of a series of persistent
and highly flattering unanswered letters on his part, have had more to do with
a psyops operation with her as the target, than with a simple aggressive crush
on the part of a bright, ambitious student?

He knew sex would sell and started that entire business.
Enter Philippe de Rothschild. He made his name in the film business
in 1932, as the producer in France of the "Lac-aux-Dames," the first
French "talkie" to gain international recognition. Adapted from a novel
by noted writer Vicki Baum and directed by Marc Allegret, it had a script
by the often sexually explicit French author Colette, starring top
legendary film icons Jean-Pierre Aumont and Simone Simon.
Ayn Rand was still in Hollywood in 1934. That was the year the famous
film "The House of Rothschild," starring George Arliss, was produced
by Darryl F. Zanuck for 20th Century-Fox.
Since Philippe de Rothschild was a producer and screenwriter himself,
it is incredible to believe that he did not come to California to
observe the production of this film.

He chose to elaborate: "There is a dense and rich and totally
fabricated mythology about Rand -- and I have heard things about
her which range from the downright impossible, to the improbable
to the merely undocumented. I had seen this before on the web.
I entirely discount it. During her own lifetime, at a television
interview, Rand was once asked if there was a relationship between her
work and the Illuminati. She denied it in such a way as to indicate
that she didn't know what the hell the woman was talking about --
the expression on her face was still more eloquent."

There is no doubt that many experts who have exposed the history
of the Illuminati (a name, by the way, not very current 40 years ago)
do indeed view Ayn Rand as a willing tool of that elite world conspiracy
which has been orchestrating the events of modern history for 300 years,
to bring about in our lifetime or eventually an occultic, one-world,
oppressive, monolithic, 'Big Brother' government.
http://eternalu.wordpress.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-atlas-shrugged/
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Post  seraphim Mon 29 Mar 2010, 06:35

Ayn Rand, the Israel question and the Jews.
Her book was dismissed as an homage to greed.
Because people are backward and so become selfish and then turn themselves into psycopaths like Greenspan.
The book was released to terrible reviews. Critics faulted its length, its philosophy and its literary ambitions. Both conservatives and liberals were unstinting in disparaging the book; the right saw promotion of godlessness, and the left saw a message of “greed is good.” Rand is said to have cried every day as the reviews came out.
And whoever has control of the media gets to do the attacking.
A recent New York Times article (July 21, 2002) focused on Alan Greenspan’s remarks to the effect that “infectious greed” is responsible for recent business scandals, and that more government regulation might be needed. These views, the piece points out, seem to contradict the philosophy of his mentor, Ayn Rand, and his own statements of four decades ago. For Rand, laissez-faire capitalism is the system in which individuals produce goods and services that they trade with one another based on mutual consent, not on the use of force or fraud. Capitalism is a moral system based on respect for the equal rights of individuals to pursue their own rational self-interest, and it rewards people for their achievements.

Political philosopher and Ayn Rand expert, Dr. Edward Hudgins notes, “Rand was virtually alone in celebrating the virtues of productive, innovative individuals and the wealth they create. She emphasized that businessmen at their best will first and foremost love their work and the challenge of creating products and services that earn them profits. If that’s greed, it’s to be praised! Rand also singled out for condemnation businessmen who seek money by any means, including fraud, or government handouts and special favors. If that’s greed, it’s to be damned!"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/724284/posts

The truly and deliberately evil men are a very small minority; it is the appeaser who unleashes them on mankind; it is the appeaser’s intellectual abdication that invites them to take over. When a culture’s dominant trend is geared to irrationality, the thugs win over the appeasers. When intellectual leaders fail to foster the best in the mixed, unformed, vacillating character of people at large, the thugs are sure to bring out the worst. When the ablest men turn into cowards, the average men turn into brutes... Ayn Rand.

Zionism and Neoconserviatism are a close kin to Communism. It is no coincidence that Jews were decisive in both. And Christian holy men, but primarily secular Christians, were decisive in defeating Communism, in part by deporting Communists, many of them Jews, to the Soviet Union, until it died a natural death. I believe Zionism will die such a death, and in doing so will affirm Christianity. If Zionism is not allowed to die a natural death, but instead artificially eliminated, the entire cycle will begin again, with diasopra Jews blaming the world for enabling, allowing, or participating in the elimination of Israel, and wreaking havoc in the gentile world until they are provided a state.
When did the children of Israel turn into “jewish”. Khazar Ashkenazim are not semitic, not hebrew, and not from the tribe of Judah. When you read Obadiah, understand who Edom is. Edom is in modern jewry. Israel has never been “jewish”, simply because “jews” are not Israel …the people…see Revelation 7. Most ashkenazim will cease and desist{being “jewish”} upon learning the truth concerning who Israel really is…England, usa, France. Scandanavia…see willie martin files outline. And read Matthew 13.
Appears others agree with you about the Jews tgII, interesting for sure.
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=199

The following is a little off track of subject but interesting.
On the Holocaust, I once had an aquaintance who was a Jew. He once very sincerely expounded to me his view of the Holocaust. According to his explanation; which did not make any reference to Our Lord Jesus Christ directly, he claimed that the Holocaust was Israel’s redemption. And he explained it in an almost “Biblical” way.

He said that the victims of the Holocaust were the price paid in full to God for the sins of Israel, past present and future. That through the blood of the Holocaust victims, Israel had been Redeemed to their God. That the Holocaust victims were the required propitiation.

What he was saying was that the Holocaust was the Suffering Messiah of Isaiah LII and the Psalms of David. He had completely replaced the saving work of Our Lord with the Holocaust.

Interestingly, this salvation was limited to the Jews, and did not include any gentiles. I was well enough acquainted with him to know that he truly and sincerely believed what he was saying. I don’t know if this idea is popular among Jews, or if it is ‘taught’ as a doctrine; but, my aquaintence was very good at communicating his replacement theology, and as I said held to it strongly.

If this idea is in fact extant abroad among the Jew, it gives the religion of Holocaustianty a whole new perspective.

Brother Kapner may know if this is a popular notion among some Jews. This “theology” was told to me about the year 1990.

And then some more on the bible.......and my goodness nothing on Rand and it has her name on it!
If the war started like i believe it will,america is going to burn.The prostitute of zionist israel is finish.By 2013 the federal jewish dollar is going to be worthless piece of paper.1913-2013.If the war started please get out of the city.America is going to burn with fire.Revelation 18.God is angry with so much blood on american hands.REVELATION 18;5 FOR HER SINS HAVE REACHED UNTO HEAVEN,AND GOD HATH REMEMBERED HER INIQUITIES.18;6REWARD HER EVEN AS SHE REWARDED YOU,AND DOUBLE UNTO HER DOUBLE ACCORDING TO HER WORKS;IN THE CUP WHICH SHE HATH FILLED FILL TO HER DOUBLE. 18;7 HAW MUCH SHE HATH GLORIFIED HERSELF,AND LIVED DELICIOUSLY,SO MUCH TORMENT AND SORROW GIVE HER;FOR SHE SAITH IN HER HEART,I SIT A QUEEN,AND AM NO WIDOW,AND SHALL SEE NO SORROW.18;8 THEREFORE SHALL HER PLAQUES COME IN ONE DAY,DEATH,AND MOURNING,AND FAMINE;AND SHE SHALL BE UTTERLY BURNED WITH FIRE;FOR STRONG IS THE LORD GOD WHO JUDGETH HER. KEEP ON READING AND START TO CRY AND ASK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS.GOD HELP US ALL. THE JEWS FROM KAZARIA(GOG AND MAGOG)DID IT AGAIN.

The Anti-Defamation League is nothing more than the attack group, of the Freemasonic Jewish Organization, known as the B’nigh B’rith International.

According to Historian’s on the secret societies - such as Fr.Denis Fahey, Rev.Cahill,S.J., and Count DePoncins - this is the most secretive of all the secret societies. When we talk about the Illuminati, you could refer to this as the secret Jewish masonic organization, The International Order of Benai Berith.

The newest historian to discover this is non-other than Christopher Bollyn.

He wrote: Members of B’nai B’rith have immense power in the U.S. government and control the 9-11 “investigation.”

He calls them: The Zionist Crimocracy and B’nai B’rith.

He has an audio file on this titled: “Gangsta’s Paradise” - In this audio file from April 2008,on Bollyn.com

On 12 May 2008 Bollyn posted this:

A Letter from a Supporter

“To not understand the deeply malicious temporal and spiritual force behind the dark brotherhood that pulled off 9-11 is to not fully comprehend the evil dynamics behind that tragedy.”

I received this note from a very astute and articulate Christian supporter about my recent articles about the secret Jewish brotherhood, the B’nai B’rith, which is the parent organization of the criminal Anti-Defamation League.

I am profoundly edified to see that Chris is continuing to tread ever deeper into areas where very, very few dare to go. And of those that do so, some very justifiably resort to pen names in order to survive.

Chris, you seem to really be leading the pack in driving an investigative spike into the dark belly of the seemingly darkest of temporal beasts. (It is certainly no wonder that so few dare to bring your expository work to the light of day.) This beast, as you all too well know, is fundamentally grounded in the truly demonic anti-Christ Jewish supremacist/racist theory and practice laid out in the greatest Jewish “holy book,” the Talmud.

The devil does not want people to think that he even exists so as to more effectively go about his destructive and damning business; so it is with those most knowing adherents of the Talmud such as Rabbi Dov Zakheim. They don’t want the world to know of the Talmud, or at the very least not all the perverted filth and diabolical anti-Christ blasphemies it contains.

The beast that you name is the “Zionist secret brotherhood of B’nai B’rith.” If the truth be known, it is this beast which draws its deepest inspirations and driving force from Satan, himself. It is completely anti-Christ in its purpose for existence and its agenda for bringing that purpose to fruition. This is a truth which absolutely cannot be played down, nor much less ignored. To not understand the deeply malicious temporal and spiritual force behind the dark brotherhood that pulled off 9-11 is to not fully comprehend the evil dynamics behind that tragedy.

Simply stated, there is much more to 9-11 than the mere superficial evil of the act itself, as horrific as that was. The collective malevolent mask of the main perpetrators must be ripped off and torn asunder. These perpetrators work in direct league with that supreme, but fallen angel who as we are informed from Sacred Scripture is the “prince of this world.” Being the prince of this world is no small feat. It is certainly no wonder then that the Zionist secret Brotherhood of B’nai B’rith which works in direct league with this spirit from the eternal pit of hell (a liar and a murderer from the beginning — cf. John 8:44) is an extremely formidable worldly power.

I dare say that your truly steadfast and obviously very courageous work in exposing the hell driven network of miscreants behind 9-11 clearly transcends the merely temporal. It helps us to understand the spiritual evil behind that immense crime. May we all pray as if everything depended upon God and work as if everything depended on us in ever seeking deliverance from the truly powerful children of darkness who make up and/or promote the hell driven anti-Christ agenda of the B’nai B’rith.

Those in this evil freemasonic group need to stop worshipping Lucifer, and turn to the one true God Jesus Christ, and repent, and enter the Catholic Church soon, before it’s too late! I pray that all of you evil masonic Jews are saved, and that we can enjoy each other’s company in Paradise, worshipping the Triune God, forever, and ever, Amen
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=248

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Post  seraphim Mon 29 Mar 2010, 06:36

It is far more probable that Ayn Rand was ignorant of Israel’s brutality and deceit than that she thought Israel’s brutality and deceit were comparatively unimportant.

She was mistaken about the nature of Israel and sincerely believed that helping the Israeli government was in our interest. A mistake preserved in amber which ARI’s (Ayn Rand Institute) supporters bring forth at every opportunity. [6]
Source: Ayn Rand Institute Watch

Many times Ayn Rand praised isolationism in its old-fashioned, America First, sense. For example, in her essay “The Chickens Homecoming” (reprinted by her in The New Left) she attacked

“the premises that we owe a duty to the rest of the world, that we are responsible for the welfare of any nation anywhere on earth, that isolationism is selfish, immoral and impractical in a ‘shrinking’ modern world, etc.”

Her attack is applicable not only to Europe and Vietnam but to any country.

Evidently – for we believe Ayn Rand was consistent – in 1975 she thought that foreign aid to Israel was in the interest of the U.S., that it was not an act of national self-sacrifice.

Specifically, judging from her answers to questions at talks she gave around this time, she supported Israel for two reasons. She believed that without U.S. support, Russia – which was supporting the Arabs – would control the Mediterranean and its oil. And she saw the fight between Israel and the Arabs as a fight between civilized men and savages.


Was socialist Israel our ally against communist Russia? During the Cold War Israel packaged itself as a bulwark against communism, an enemy of our enemy, the Soviet Union. It turned out Israel was pulling the wool over our eyes. For examples of Israel’s treachery read about the Pollard Affair and other betrayals in This is Our Ally? on this website. Israel was against Russia only to the extent that Russia helped Arabia, otherwise Israel helped Russia if Russia helped them. Ayn Rand evidently believed Israel’s propaganda about it being our ally against Russia, not realizing the propaganda was lies.

She also evidently believed that Israel had a more civilized government than it did. When Ayn Rand spoke at the Ford Hall Forum she frequently got asked about Israel – whose supporters are anything if not vociferous – during the question and answer periods, which were open to any question. Her reply would go along the following lines: I support Israel; though Israel is a socialist country, [2] in that region of the world Israel is the vanguard of civilization.

In other words, the gray of Israel is white compared to the surrounding near-black of Arabia. There is something to be said for that kind of argument, but of course it fails when the gray gets dark enough. Did Ayn Rand know how dark Israel really was? The year she wrote her essay, 1975, was long before Israeli torture came to light in the 1993 New York Times exposé, over 20 years after her death. 1975 was long before Israel’s massacre of Beirut in 1982, the year of her death. [3]

http://ariwatch.com/AynRandOnIsrael.htm
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Post  tgII Tue 30 Mar 2010, 11:03

serpahim, looks like I've got my hands full with the Rand.

Okay, first off, everything posted here is copy & pasted meaning
views and interpretations of Ayn Rand have come almost entirely
from what other people have said and hold opinions of concerning
Ayn Rand.

Second, I have read much of her work, listened to many of her
interviews and lectures, spoken with many people quite aware of
her philosophy without first obtaining any outside influence on how
I interpret her philosophy. After reading her work it left me more
sterile than a hospital operating room. The point is, how does her
writing and philosophy effect you in the short term and in the long
term? How do you judge that influence if for example, you had
instead spent all that time reading the philosophy of let's say a
Leibniz, which between his philosophy and Ayn Rand's are two
completely conflicting interpretations of our conditions.

How would studying Leibniz have improved your outlook and
experiences as a human being strapped to this shit house of
insanity compared to just Ayn Rand for example? You cannot
predict with any certainty how people will act and behave after
being subjected to the thoughts and ideas of what we casually
call 'philosophy.'

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rainday, the second video you posted is just utter nonsense with
her calling for adherence to the Constitution, once again, this
document was dictated to the 'founding fathers' by the crown,
they were given they ultimatum, alright, you want a Constitution,
then this is the way it's going to be.

Even the term 'founding father' is a corporate term going back to
the British Board of Trade which is controlled by the crown.

This corporation can walk into your home, shoot your dog, rape
your daughter, shoot you dead and there is absolutely nothing
people can do about it. When in the hell will these dumb ass 'patriot
Americans' come to their senses?

The Crown through Britain literally owns America.
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Post  seraphim Tue 30 Mar 2010, 21:54

How would studying Leibniz have improved your outlook and
experiences as a human being strapped to this shit house of
insanity compared to just Ayn Rand for example? You cannot
predict with any certainty how people will act and behave after
being subjected to the thoughts and ideas of what we casually
call 'philosophy.'
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Everything that you have read about Rand on the internet is mostly full of hate, because they wanted her to shut up after they used her.
Actually no, the person from the blog, read all if not most of Rand's books and studied her. I also have read her books, I don't go look on the internet for inspiration only information. Her books have power in them. That is why they work. Her words are tools, it's not really philosophy, but as usual people always get things messed up and use it for bad. Yes you can predict how others will behave.
The point is, how does her
writing and philosophy effect you in the short term and in the long
term? How do you judge that influence if for example, you had
instead spent all that time reading the philosophy of let's say a
Leibniz, which between his philosophy and Ayn Rand's are two
completely conflicting interpretations of our conditions.

Her work has affected me, because I place my freedom as one of the most important things in my life, even though I have little, and will not gain it if I sit idle and do nothing.
Her writings give people tools to break free, in other words empowerment. That's how it affected me. Everyone seems to be influenced easily, but I take the tools that I think will help me, and try to be in a clear state of mind and refuse to turn psychotic or ruin myself with others work on a grandiose scale as Greenspan had done.
I'll have to read Leibniz and see how it affects me.
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Flames...

My neighbor has a sixteen-year-old daughter. She is one of the most beautiful young teenagers I have ever laid eyes upon. Strikingly beautiful.
Intelligent, introspective, responsible with a very quiet and reserved demeanor.

She had attended Steiner school all her life. As she has a more right-brained and artistic way of thinking.

She is extremely talented in many arts, but photography, videography and video media was her interest to pursue further.

So she recently applied and was accepted to one of the best schools in Norway for this specialty. But the school requires on campus living in dormatories far from home. So she moved in and began attending classes in their program there. After six months she has now returned home significantly prematurely and discontinued her studies.

Upon friendly inquiry to her father he commented that the other students are just not on the same level as she is when it comes to maturity and with what is a priority in life. She was made to feel intimidated and extremely uncomfortable by the other students to the point where she just left rather than let the constant onslaught of insulting behaviors take any type of toll on her. She stuck it out as long as her patience and resilience could carry her, but when you have to actually live on campus in closed quarters with these types it is another story.
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Don't kill him. This man is my son that is expected to be born in October.
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