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The filth is starting to rise to the top, note how the second witness has "dissapeared" and the third is "dead"
Paedophile scandal: Three victims name Tory bigwig as one of their abusers = Also Claims the senior politician from the Thatcher era arrived in limo for horrific attacks at care home
Paedophile scandal: Three victims name Tory bigwig as one of their abusers = Also Claims the senior politician from the Thatcher era arrived in limo for horrific attacks at care home
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And where is David Cameron this week ?
Hes visiting his favourite regimes in the middle east on a weapons selling trip
Previously when any uk prime minister visits another country , there is a large entourage of press that travel with them in order to report freely about the goings on and talks in the other country
On this clandestine trip, cameron has only allowed 1 journalist and 1 camera person , hand picked from the bbc to report what their told to report
Last year cameron gave a speech about the uk aspiring to keep its high human rights values wherever it goes and whoever it deals with , and yet here he is out on a weapons sales trip to regimes with some of the worst human rights record in modern times
yeah hes a hypocrit and a 2 faced deceiver and off course a perfect puppet minister of politics
Hes visiting his favourite regimes in the middle east on a weapons selling trip
Previously when any uk prime minister visits another country , there is a large entourage of press that travel with them in order to report freely about the goings on and talks in the other country
On this clandestine trip, cameron has only allowed 1 journalist and 1 camera person , hand picked from the bbc to report what their told to report
Last year cameron gave a speech about the uk aspiring to keep its high human rights values wherever it goes and whoever it deals with , and yet here he is out on a weapons sales trip to regimes with some of the worst human rights record in modern times
yeah hes a hypocrit and a 2 faced deceiver and off course a perfect puppet minister of politics
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Was this the Bush that was controlling World Trade Center security before and during 911?
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Kapis wrote:And where is David Cameron this week ?
Hes visiting his favourite regimes in the middle east on a weapons selling trip
Previously when any uk prime minister visits another country , there is a large entourage of press that travel with them in order to report freely about the goings on and talks in the other country
On this clandestine trip, cameron has only allowed 1 journalist and 1 camera person , hand picked from the bbc to report what their told to report
Last year cameron gave a speech about the uk aspiring to keep its high human rights values wherever it goes and whoever it deals with , and yet here he is out on a weapons sales trip to regimes with some of the worst human rights record in modern times
yeah hes a hypocrit and a 2 faced deceiver and off course a perfect puppet minister of politics
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9669129/David-Cameron-surprises-allies-with-suggestion-of-arming-Syrian-rebels.html
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I suppose in the near future all of the racist red necks will have somebody to get behind now that the Republithug party is in ruin.
http://www.examiner.com/article/15-states-including-texas-have-filed-a-petition-to-secede-from-the-united-states-1
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Truth...has a beauty about it when spoken and known...
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My feeling is with all the attention on guns, the gun manufacturers involved, the potential
for gun laws being enacted next year and the fact there are approximately 8,000 gun
related deaths a year in America, that perhaps we should seriously consider America is
being set up for a civil war.
for gun laws being enacted next year and the fact there are approximately 8,000 gun
related deaths a year in America, that perhaps we should seriously consider America is
being set up for a civil war.
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They know civil unrest is coming because of the economic corruption and the unpayable debt in which 80% is owned by foreign interests.
The NWO plan is to have America about seventh place in the NWO list of superpower countries. So it must be knocked down a few pegs.
Sometime WWIII and a sino-soviet-muslim invasion force is also in the cards.
Obama's speech to legalize indefinite detention...
But no arrests for trading with the enemies act violations, drug dealing, money laundering and financing terrorists...
The NWO plan is to have America about seventh place in the NWO list of superpower countries. So it must be knocked down a few pegs.
Sometime WWIII and a sino-soviet-muslim invasion force is also in the cards.
Obama's speech to legalize indefinite detention...
But no arrests for trading with the enemies act violations, drug dealing, money laundering and financing terrorists...
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Growing number of unemployed young adults in US becoming homeless
Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:43AM GMT
Just a little more hopelessness and we shall soon have more of the type of workforce and staffing of those willing to give their lives to Moloch in our New World Order forming wars.
Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:43AM GMT
Tens of thousands of young, college-educated underemployed and jobless individuals in the US have become homeless in wake of the nation’s recession, which has left 18- to 24-year-old workers with the highest jobless rate among adults.
Throughout the US, tens of thousands of such young adults, “many with college credits or work histories,” continue to struggle to find a place to live following the recession that has left the college-age youngsters with the highest unemployment rate of all adults, The New York Times reports on Wednesday.
“Without a stable home address, they are an elusive group that mostly couch surfs or sleeps hidden away in cars or other private places, hoping to avoid the lasting stigma of public homelessness during what they hope will be a temporary predicament,” the report says.
It describes these young, underemployed adults as “the new face of a national homeless population, one that poverty experts and case workers say is growing,” emphasizing that the problem remains “mostly invisible.”
The report further reiterates that most cities and states have not made serious efforts to identify young adults, “who tend to shy away from ordinary shelters out of fear of being victimized by an older, chronically homeless population.”
The daily also cites executive director of the United States Interagency Council on Homelessness, Barbara Poppe, as saying that the jobless rate and the number of young adults that are unable to afford college tuitions “point to the fact there is a dramatic increase in homelessness” in that age group.
Those who provide services to the poor in many cities, the report adds, underline that the economic recovery has not relieved the persisting dilemma.
“Years ago, you didn’t see what looked like people of college age sitting and waiting to talk to a crisis worker because they are homeless on the street,” said Andrae Bailey, the executive director of the Community Food and Outreach Center, one of the largest charitable organizations in Florida. “Now that’s a normal thing.”
US Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Barnanke, as well as other economists have been insisting in recent months that if the nation’s unemployment problem is not effectively dealt with, the country is certain to experience yet another economic depression in coming years.
Just a little more hopelessness and we shall soon have more of the type of workforce and staffing of those willing to give their lives to Moloch in our New World Order forming wars.
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Israeli death squads involved in Sandy Hook bloodbath: Intelligence analyst
Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:33PM GMT
By Gordon Duff
Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:33PM GMT
By Gordon Duff
In truth, the public may well just be sick of hearing stories about “lone gunmen.” Of all possible horrors, this one, even more than the Benghazi killings, is loaded with political implication, not just “gun control,” but a clear attack on the security of every American family.
Days later, the Sandy Hook Massacre, the iconic slaughter of twenty small children, is now looking like a terrorist attack, not a “murder suicide.” Was “lone gunman” Adam Lanza a “patsy,” the same word Lee Harvey Oswald used to describe himself before being “silenced” in November 1963?
Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”
Harris cited Israeli “rage” against the US and against President Barack Obama. By “Israel,” we mean “Netanyahu.”
The mission was to teach America a lesson, knowing that “America would take the punishment, keep “quiet,” and let a ‘fall guy’ take the blame.”
A “fall guy” is another word for “patsy.”
Harris, citing the flood of inconsistencies in the “cover story,” pointed out the following, “The facts are now becoming obvious. This is another case where Israel has chosen violence and terrorism where their bullying in Washington has failed. Israel believes the US “threw them under the bus,” particularly after the recent Gaza war, allowing Israel to be humiliated in the United Nations. Their response was to stage a terror attack, targeting America in the most hideous and brutal way possible, in fact, an Israeli “signature attack,” one that butchers children, one reminiscent of the attacks that killed so many children in Gaza?”
Washington is terrified of Israel, their powerful lobby and its relationship with organized crime. Now, a key former Senator, Chuck Hagel, who has helped expose this fact, is likely to be nominated as the secretary of defense, despite vocal protests from Israel.
Today, Israeli news gave further credence to Harris’ analysis when they issued the following statements regarding the probable nomination of Hegel:
“Chuck Hagel’s statements and actions regarding Israel have raised serious concerns for many Americans who care about Israel,” said the Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC) Executive Director, Matt Brooks. “The Jewish community and every American who supports a strong US-Israel relationship have cause for alarm if the president taps Hagel for such an important post.”
“The appointment of Chuck Hagel would be a slap in the face for every American who is concerned about the safety of Israel,” he asserted
Citing a 2006 interview with Hegel, the news continued, “The political reality is…that the Jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. I have always argued against some of the dumb things they do because I don’t think it’s in the interest of Israel. I just don’t think it’s smart for Israel.”
Hagel also said he didn’t think he had ever signed one of the letters the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) regularly circulates to demonstrate support for Israel or tough stands against parties such as Iran.
“I didn’t sign the letter because it was a stupid letter…I’m not an Israeli senator, I’m a United States senator.”
During his interview today, Mike Harris explained his rationale for looking to Israel as responsible for Sandy Hook, saying “This is exactly what Israel did in Norway; the political party that voted sanctions against Israel was retaliated against by a “lone gunman” who killed 77 children. This is what Israel always does, they go after the children. It is what they do in Gaza every day. It is what was done in Norway. It is what happened at Sandy Hook. Nobody buys the “lone gunman” story anymore, not with the Gabby Giffords’ shooting, not with the Aurora “Batman” shooting, certainly not with Breveik, and certainly not in Connecticut.”
After Harris’ broadcast, key members of the military and law enforcement community contacted Veterans Today in full support of Harris’ analysis.
One three star general is quoted as saying, “Harris hit the nail right on the head and it is about time someone spoke up.”
As days have passed, key issues involving the Sandy Hook terror attack have been cited as “debunking” the “lone gunman” cover story: From a viral email that is growing every hour with more reasons to doubt the official story: According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother’s ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan - whom officials say is very cooperative - claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?
According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest if he planned to kill himself?
The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with 223 (rifle) casings. However, Adam Lanza was found dead at the school with only handguns - a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. Then he could not have possibly been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did then?
According to the official story, the killings was tightly confined to two classrooms. Then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?
Joanne Didonato, the principal’s secretary, called in sick on Friday - something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. “Of all days,” she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.
Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?
What happened to the report that Adam Lanza’s girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?
What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, “It wasn’t me.” Who was he and what was he doing there?
What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?
The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector, who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her “autistic” son access to both guns and ammo?
A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, “Put your hands up,” followed by the reply, “Don’t shoot.” This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?
Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?
Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?
Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?
Why did a police officer specifically mention on radio that “they’re coming at me through this wood” followed by a fellow officer saying, “This is it”?
One officer at the school said, “We’ve got one suspect down.” Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody (on the ground and cuffed) not dead.
Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), “[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school”?
Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it is for their own benefit?
Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza’s brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?
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This is only a small percentage of the irregularities noted in what now seems to be more of a cover-up than investigation.
In truth, the public may well just be sick of hearing stories about “lone gunmen.” Of all possible horrors, this one, even more than the Benghazi killings, is loaded with political implication, not just “gun control,” but a clear attack on the security of every American family.
The simplest thing would be to sit back and accept what we are told without examining who gains, who loses and “why now?”
Is Harris right? Would Israel order the deaths of twenty tiny children to make a political point? Have they done this before?
Is Harris right about that too?
Moments ago, Harris phoned me. I asked him if, hours later, he was still willing to back up his statements.
His answer was simple: “You murder children as part of ‘business as usual,’ you shouldn’t be surprised that when children are murdered, people look to you.”
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Holy shit...how psychopathic one can be
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This is what we learned from the "news":
Last week, NBC chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel and his four-man team, who
were held captive by an unknown militia group shortly after slipping into Syria on Thursday,
have been freed unharmed following a firefight between their captors and a Syrian rebel
group at a checkpoint.
A "firefight?" Want to see a news con job? Watch this:
Richard Engel, you liar. Go fuck yourself.
Here's a video conveniently produced of Richard Engel and his four man crew. No less by
the Shabiha who are described as "pro Asshead thugs."
This is "news" reporting and staging events to further convince people the FSA has the
moral upper hand by "rescuing" Engel and his crew.
This shit is getting so bad now that you can actually within a very close range of proximity
tell exactly what they are doing through the news re: NBC.
Un-fucking-believable what these people will stoop to.
Last week, NBC chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel and his four-man team, who
were held captive by an unknown militia group shortly after slipping into Syria on Thursday,
have been freed unharmed following a firefight between their captors and a Syrian rebel
group at a checkpoint.
A "firefight?" Want to see a news con job? Watch this:
Richard Engel, you liar. Go fuck yourself.
Here's a video conveniently produced of Richard Engel and his four man crew. No less by
the Shabiha who are described as "pro Asshead thugs."
This is "news" reporting and staging events to further convince people the FSA has the
moral upper hand by "rescuing" Engel and his crew.
This shit is getting so bad now that you can actually within a very close range of proximity
tell exactly what they are doing through the news re: NBC.
Un-fucking-believable what these people will stoop to.
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nickor, come on, I need some help here...
Connections...connections...connections.
Facial recognition software is being used and when there is a match made based on
thousands of matches with even the slightest similarities an allegation is made.
There is a really sophisticated psyop going on here that is becoming very complex to
comprehend.
The political psycho elite are stumbling all over themselves. ATF's Fast and Furious in
which 2,000 weapons were apparently lost, are showing up all over the place. Five
Mexicans were just killed the other day in Mexico and several of the guns were traced
back to the ATF's Fast and Furious while Eric Holder stumbles all over himself.
Hillary passes out, collapses and apparently receives a concussion.
Here is what the scenario is going to be that will be unfolding the way I've been
observing events:
A huge psyop is under way in which children were just allegedly to have been gunned
down in Connecticut. As a result of this incident, regardless if children were actually
killed (verify the deaths with autopsy photographs, hospital visits, coroners
documentation, funeral home verification, witness testimony identifying all the parents
with the dead children; these parents being identified as the actual parents who were
at the school) or not, Ceberus Capital Investments just began divesting from the
Freedom Group, the company that manufactures the AR15, one of which was found in
the trunk of the mother's car.
Freedom Group's revenue for 2009: US$ 848.7 million
Weapons and ammunition sales. Just think of the $ consequences post-Connecticut job?
Cerberus is named for the mythological three-headed dog that guarded the gates of
Hades (Greek God of the Underworld). This is very ominous and I am not kidding, the
American people are being programmed to arm themselves to the fucking teeth; because
they will then be open season for whatever is coming: huge contracts with the firms like
ATK for millions of rounds of ammunition going into ATF and DHS stock piles.
Cerebrus Capital Management acquired GMAC (General Motors finance arm) which
brokered the mortgage on the Twin Towers, essentially to destroy evidence on 9/11.
And don't get confused, even though Ceberus acquired GMAC in 2006, GMAC provided
the first mortgage prior to 9/11.
Doubt it? Read this:
Read the company history: Cerberus Capital Management
Americans need to be forming peaceful non-violent communities right now.
Why?
Because they are being driven by fear causing them to arm themselves to the teeth
pushing them into a very real potential for no-win "civil war."
There is so much evidence out here now pointing in this direction I wouldn't even know
where to begin.
It's commerce. This is all being driven by private commerce and in case you did not
notice, "private equity" was mentioned.
The privateers and pirates have been at the helm.
So, the American people subject-citizen-slaves want guns do they? Alright, gear
up plebeians. It's guns you'll have and plenty of them along with cheap affordable
ammunition.
Total fucking dysfunctional culture of fear and death. Isn't there any other option
besides guns?
Here they are plebeians, come and get 'em!
Ya'll be good now ya hear?
Connections...connections...connections.
Facial recognition software is being used and when there is a match made based on
thousands of matches with even the slightest similarities an allegation is made.
There is a really sophisticated psyop going on here that is becoming very complex to
comprehend.
The political psycho elite are stumbling all over themselves. ATF's Fast and Furious in
which 2,000 weapons were apparently lost, are showing up all over the place. Five
Mexicans were just killed the other day in Mexico and several of the guns were traced
back to the ATF's Fast and Furious while Eric Holder stumbles all over himself.
Hillary passes out, collapses and apparently receives a concussion.
Here is what the scenario is going to be that will be unfolding the way I've been
observing events:
A huge psyop is under way in which children were just allegedly to have been gunned
down in Connecticut. As a result of this incident, regardless if children were actually
killed (verify the deaths with autopsy photographs, hospital visits, coroners
documentation, funeral home verification, witness testimony identifying all the parents
with the dead children; these parents being identified as the actual parents who were
at the school) or not, Ceberus Capital Investments just began divesting from the
Freedom Group, the company that manufactures the AR15, one of which was found in
the trunk of the mother's car.
Freedom Group's revenue for 2009: US$ 848.7 million
Weapons and ammunition sales. Just think of the $ consequences post-Connecticut job?
Cerberus is named for the mythological three-headed dog that guarded the gates of
Hades (Greek God of the Underworld). This is very ominous and I am not kidding, the
American people are being programmed to arm themselves to the fucking teeth; because
they will then be open season for whatever is coming: huge contracts with the firms like
ATK for millions of rounds of ammunition going into ATF and DHS stock piles.
Cerebrus Capital Management acquired GMAC (General Motors finance arm) which
brokered the mortgage on the Twin Towers, essentially to destroy evidence on 9/11.
And don't get confused, even though Ceberus acquired GMAC in 2006, GMAC provided
the first mortgage prior to 9/11.
Doubt it? Read this:
GMAC Commercial Mortgage, Horsham, Pa., provided Silverstein and Westfield with a $563 million first mortgage secured by four properties at the complex (the Twin Towers and Four and Five World Trade Center). GMAC then sold $483 million of the mortgage to investors. The insurance required on the financing included coverage for "acts of terrorist" and for "damage caused by aircrafts." GMAC, on behalf on the bondholders, has given notice of its status as mortgagee and loss payee to its insurers and said it is waiting to hear on an anticipated claim payment date.
Financial Services — Cerberus acquired 51 percent of GMAC, General Motors' finance arm, in 2006 for $7.4 billion. It appointed Ezra Merkin as nonexecutive Chairman.
On December 10, 2008, GMAC said, "GMAC LLC, the auto and home lender seeking federal aid, hasn’t obtained enough capital to become a bank holding company and may abandon the effort, casting new doubt on the firm’s ability to survive. A $38 billion debt exchange by GMAC and its Residential Capital LLC mortgage unit [also means real estate like in Twin Towers] to reduce the company's outstanding debt and raise capital hasn’t attracted enough participation.” GMAC's exposure to the gap in residual values was around $3.5 billion.
Read the company history: Cerberus Capital Management
Cerberus Capital Management, L.P. is an American private equity firm. The firm is based in New York City, and run by financier Steve Feinberg, [is this guy connected to any of those names and faces used by wellaware1.com?] who co-founded Cerberus in 1992 with William L. Richter, who currently serves as a Senior Managing Director. The firm has affiliate and/or advisory offices in the United States, Europe and Asia.
Cerberus has more than US$20 billion under management [that is a huge chunk of money] in funds and accounts. The company is a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Registered Investment Advisor. Investors include prominent government and private sector pension and retirement funds, [the California Teacher's Pension Fund is heavily invested in the Freedom Group, the corporation that manufacturers the Bushmaster AR15; now there is talk of arming teachers] charitable foundations, university endowments, insurance companies, family savings and sovereign wealth funds.
Americans need to be forming peaceful non-violent communities right now.
Why?
Because they are being driven by fear causing them to arm themselves to the teeth
pushing them into a very real potential for no-win "civil war."
There is so much evidence out here now pointing in this direction I wouldn't even know
where to begin.
It's commerce. This is all being driven by private commerce and in case you did not
notice, "private equity" was mentioned.
The privateers and pirates have been at the helm.
So, the American people subject-citizen-slaves want guns do they? Alright, gear
up plebeians. It's guns you'll have and plenty of them along with cheap affordable
ammunition.
Total fucking dysfunctional culture of fear and death. Isn't there any other option
besides guns?
Here they are plebeians, come and get 'em!
Ya'll be good now ya hear?
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Now you know why I moved my ass out of the US of A eight years ago.
Learned about the agenda for America back in 1998.
One of the parts of the agenda being that the left and its policies will instigate the right and all of that unrest will lead to fascism.
This then begins the need for government lockdown.
I was never sure this was going to happen, but along the way all the legislation and laws have been passed to make it legal for the US government to go full-bore NAZI.
Welcome back nickor.
I have never been convinced of wellaware1's theories, but will look into his latest claims.
Learned about the agenda for America back in 1998.
One of the parts of the agenda being that the left and its policies will instigate the right and all of that unrest will lead to fascism.
This then begins the need for government lockdown.
I was never sure this was going to happen, but along the way all the legislation and laws have been passed to make it legal for the US government to go full-bore NAZI.
Welcome back nickor.
I have never been convinced of wellaware1's theories, but will look into his latest claims.
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Friday, December 21, 2012
House Passes NDAA 2013 with Indefinite Detention Intact
Yesterday, the House passed the National Defense Authorization Act which funds the Pentagon and military operations for 2013 to the tune of $633 billion.
The vote was 315-107, but the final draft must still be approved by the Senate.
The Senate version included an amendment that was supposed to protect Americans against indefinite military detention. That amendment was reportedly scrubbed from the final House version of the NDAA.
The Feinstein Amendment provided that:
an authorization to use military force, a declaration of war, or any similar authority shall not authorize the detention without charge or trial of a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States unless an act of Congress expressly authorizes such detention.
Some have argued that the NDAA 2012 act of Congress negates this amendment making it impotent to begin with. However, this amendment apparently stated Americans' rights too clearly, so the House had to rewrite it in legalese.
Spokespeople for the Senate said the amendment was replaced with the following language:
Nothing in the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40; 50 U.S.C. 1541) or the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (Public Law 112–81) shall be construed to deny the availability of the writ of habeas corpus or to deny any Constitutional rights in a court ordained or established by or under Article III of the Constitution to any person inside the United States who would be entitled to the availability of such writ or to such rights in the absence of such laws.
Some say this convoluted form does nothing to protect a right to trial for detained Americans.
"This language doesn't do anything of substance," said Raha Wala, a lawyer at Human Rights First. "It doesn't ban indefinite detention within the United States or change anything about existing law."
Senator Rand Paul, who has been outspoken against indefinite detention, eviscerated the new wording and blamed Senator McCain for the change:
'The decision by the NDAA conference committee, led by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) to strip the National Defense Authorization Act of the amendment that protects American citizens against indefinite detention now renders the entire NDAA unconstitutional,' Sen. Paul said.
'I voted against NDAA in 2011 because it did not contain the proper constitutional protections. When my Senate colleagues voted to include those protections in the 2012 NDAA through the Feinstein-Lee Amendment last month, I supported this act,' Sen. Paul continued.
'But removing those protections now takes us back to square one and does as much violence to the Constitution as last year’s NDAA. When the government can arrest suspects without a warrant, hold them without trial, deny them access to counsel or admission of bail, we have shorn the Bill of Rights of its sanctity.
Saying that new language somehow ensures the right to habeas corpus – the right to be presented before a judge – is both questionable and not enough. Citizens must not only be formally charged but also receive jury trials and the other protections our Constitution guarantees. Habeas corpus is simply the beginning of due process. It is by no means the whole.
Our Bill of Rights is not something that can be cherry-picked at legislators’ convenience. When I entered the United States Senate, I took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. It is for this reason that I will strongly oppose passage of the McCain conference report that strips the guarantee to a trial by jury.'
It's unclear who pulled the amendment from the House version, but the White House likely pressured Congress to change it. Immediately following the passage of the amendment, the White House threatened to veto the bill citing it "limits his ability to pursue his defense strategy and trespasses on his power."
Other activist groups are encouraging the President to veto the bill over restrictions placed on dealing with Guantanamo detainees.
Now that the bill is back to being as tyrannical as it can be for the American people, we can expect President Obama to once again sign it into law under the cover of darkness like he did last year late New Year's Eve.
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Re: Syria.
Anatomy of a propaganda hit piece on Syria. Again, British brains and American
muscle.
Robert King, an American photojournalist gets a job with VICE Magazine (online) to
go to Syria and get himself embedded with the Syrian Free Army (terrorists and
mercenaries espousing fundamental Islamic Jihad). You just don't show up at the
Syrian airport and say: "I'm a foreign journalist and I want to get embedded with
the Syrian Free Army." Somebody set the connections up and facilitated his
movements in Syria with the SFA.
Here is the video of Robert King in Syria embedded with the SFA interviewing
"revolutionaries" put up nine hours ago on LiveLeak. Listen carefully to Robert
King's propagandist narrative:
VICE hired Robert King to do a hit piece on Syria embedded with "revolutionaries"
which is crude propaganda. I knew it led back to London and they've probably got
contact with British Intelligence/MI6 to do the propaganda.
Robert King is a brave but stupid American. I wonder what they paid him considering
VICE Magazine revenue is about $500,000 annually.
Robert King being interviewed on CNN:
John King interviewing John McAfee, the British-American and founder of McAfee
Anti-virus software:
Some of Robert King's photographs for VICE of John McAfee and in Syria:
John McAfee likes young chicks. Here he is with a 20 year-old Guatemalan babe.
McAfee, who is 66 years-old, is caught up in an alleged murder of his neighbor in Belize.
Probably called in Robert King to make sure the PR end gets good coverage.
Back to Robert King in Syria.
Gotcha!!
Cover blown:
Another naive and pragmatic American, and brave, can't fault him for that for taking
risks in Syria, in Syria either instructed or naively doing a propaganda hit piece on
Syria for the British and probably all expenses and equipment paid for by VICE
Magazine.
Because it's a cyber war!!!
Anatomy of a propaganda hit piece on Syria. Again, British brains and American
muscle.
Robert King, an American photojournalist gets a job with VICE Magazine (online) to
go to Syria and get himself embedded with the Syrian Free Army (terrorists and
mercenaries espousing fundamental Islamic Jihad). You just don't show up at the
Syrian airport and say: "I'm a foreign journalist and I want to get embedded with
the Syrian Free Army." Somebody set the connections up and facilitated his
movements in Syria with the SFA.
Here is the video of Robert King in Syria embedded with the SFA interviewing
"revolutionaries" put up nine hours ago on LiveLeak. Listen carefully to Robert
King's propagandist narrative:
VICE hired Robert King to do a hit piece on Syria embedded with "revolutionaries"
which is crude propaganda. I knew it led back to London and they've probably got
contact with British Intelligence/MI6 to do the propaganda.
Robert King is a brave but stupid American. I wonder what they paid him considering
VICE Magazine revenue is about $500,000 annually.
Robert King being interviewed on CNN:
John King interviewing John McAfee, the British-American and founder of McAfee
Anti-virus software:
Some of Robert King's photographs for VICE of John McAfee and in Syria:
John McAfee likes young chicks. Here he is with a 20 year-old Guatemalan babe.
McAfee, who is 66 years-old, is caught up in an alleged murder of his neighbor in Belize.
Probably called in Robert King to make sure the PR end gets good coverage.
Back to Robert King in Syria.
Gotcha!!
Cover blown:
- Web Site: vice.com
Server: Cayman Islands (no-mans land)
Editor: Andy Capper (New York)
Chief Executive Officer: Andrew Creighton (London; wonder what his back ground is re: education; connections to intelligence?)
Vice Magazine UK: http://www.vice.com/en_uk/pages/about
Another naive and pragmatic American, and brave, can't fault him for that for taking
risks in Syria, in Syria either instructed or naively doing a propaganda hit piece on
Syria for the British and probably all expenses and equipment paid for by VICE
Magazine.
Because it's a cyber war!!!
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Great stuff TG, im earmarking that mag, this mcfee character , i think this type of thing goes on as the norm, 66 year olds with tenn foreign girls, thats one of the benefits of controlling countries that are in political disaray, in addition to sucking the resources , precious metals oil etc, there is an infinite number of vulnerable untraceable young flesh there to be taken.
i also wonder about the number of predators and general deep seated spys that lurk under the banner of the international red cross and other friendly instituitions like those
hes a real lizard that guy though, probably feeds on her menstrual blood monthly
i also wonder about the number of predators and general deep seated spys that lurk under the banner of the international red cross and other friendly instituitions like those
hes a real lizard that guy though, probably feeds on her menstrual blood monthly
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My Kapitan, that was good...
Also, I was mistaken, I said McAfee was in Bali. Corrected to Belize.
I really fucking hate digging this shit out but nobody, I mean nobody is doing this kind
of forensics that I can see.
hes a real lizard that guy though, probably feeds on her menstrual blood monthly
Also, I was mistaken, I said McAfee was in Bali. Corrected to Belize.
I really fucking hate digging this shit out but nobody, I mean nobody is doing this kind
of forensics that I can see.
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Re your Syria stuff and russian thread info, and how propoganda is really the major tool in psycho-persuaion of the masses , this was the uk headline few days back
Then a couple days later theres a news bulletin with Prince charlies xmas message to the british forces overseas through the british forces radio service, he addresses the troops talking about xmas etc and the dangers of fighting and having sons and daughters who are in danger over in the war zone, and he has the brass neck to draw parallels with his son harry and the common people soldier son or daughter , as if harry would ever be exposed to real danger , he also mentioned prince andrew during the falklands debacle, all with a serious caring voice and fixed image
Ive got a job for God , wherever it, he, she may be, lets get all the people that secretly start wars and put them only in the firing line, all hoarded wealth of theirs gets donated to the local country of residence on their mutual demise
FULL ARTICLEPRINCE Harry has killed his first Taliban commander, The Sun can reveal.
The 28-year-old gunship co-pilot was called on to unleash a missile strike to eliminate a senior terror leader.
Harry has proved a massive hit with comrades in Helmand, Afghanistan, who have nicknamed him Big H.
A defence insider said: "Big H is a legend.
“We were on patrol and the Apache helicopters were called in. We heard this posh voice come over the radio and knew it was Big H. They were tracking a Taliban leader — he was commander level.
Then a couple days later theres a news bulletin with Prince charlies xmas message to the british forces overseas through the british forces radio service, he addresses the troops talking about xmas etc and the dangers of fighting and having sons and daughters who are in danger over in the war zone, and he has the brass neck to draw parallels with his son harry and the common people soldier son or daughter , as if harry would ever be exposed to real danger , he also mentioned prince andrew during the falklands debacle, all with a serious caring voice and fixed image
Ive got a job for God , wherever it, he, she may be, lets get all the people that secretly start wars and put them only in the firing line, all hoarded wealth of theirs gets donated to the local country of residence on their mutual demise
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