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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Wed 05 Mar 2014, 03:31

One billion---"digits"...typed up and ready to spend.

Something is suspicious about this whole Ukraine thing.  Seems like a big staged drama on both sides.

Scottish Rite and the Hegelian Dialectic?
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Post  KapitanScarlet Wed 05 Mar 2014, 12:38

Digits
= pretty good  Very Happy 

Something is suspicious about this whole Ukraine thing. Seems like a big staged drama on both sides.
Scottish Rite and the Hegelian Dialectic?

Its the only explanation i can think off that would explain how john kerry can repeatedly spew such hypocrysy on news and not even a slight grimace of anticipated nostalgic irony or even satire from him , along with the butt friendly william hague, they are just reciting scripts drawn up by controlling inter-national-non-nationalist corporate entities(banking energy tycoons) ….probably worshipping non-human entity , as highlighted by michael hoffman quote (Tg copyright) (:
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Post  Sputnik Wed 05 Mar 2014, 13:57

Yes it is indeed staged by the fascist US/EU factions!!!!

>>BREAKING<< CATHERINE ASHTON KNOW'S WHO SHOT THE PROTESTERS IN KIEV!!!!!

Kiev snipers hired by Maidan leaders - leaked EU's Ashton phone tape!

Officers of Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) loyal to the ousted President Viktor Yanukovich have hacked phones of Estonian Minister of Foreign Affairs Urmas Paet and High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton and leaked their conversation to the web. The officials discuss their impressions of what's happening in the country after the revolution. The gist of it is that Ukrainian people have no trust in any of the leaders of Maidan.

However the most striking thing of all is the fact which concerns the use of force during the revolution, particularly the snipers who killed both protesters and officers of the riot police. Mr. Paet reveals astonishing information which confirms the rumours that the snipers were employed by the leaders of Maidan. Please share far and wide!


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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Wed 05 Mar 2014, 20:34

Thanks for the post Sputnik.
TG had just posted on this Ashton character and here she is shitting on herself.
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Post  tgII Thu 06 Mar 2014, 01:06

re: didn't see this Ashton post

Thanks, Sputnik. I posted about this in another thread because it
was related over there.

Qsc, serious stuff going on here but one thing is for sure, even though
there exists some serious stage craft going on, it is ultimately the IMF
and the WTO control over Ukraine's resources - enormous - through neo-liberal
ideologists of free trade. Again, nothing is free.

Chevron just inked a huge contract with Kiev to begin natural gas fracking in
Ukraine. Good bye nuclear power re: Fukushima.

Hello gas!!!
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Post  tgII Thu 06 Mar 2014, 02:02

re: Maiden (Mayden) sniper video analyzing the shootings

Here is a good video clip analyzing the shootings in Kiev. Not pretty
to see people getting sacrificed like this thinking they are actually
"activists" who have been lived out by various NGOs not knowing they
really were sacrificial lambs for the destabilization routine.

Remember, these "activists" are not armed.

Also, it is very, very important to know that the cameraman and the
sniper were working together as a team. DO NOT forget this as you
view this clip.

That technique is done to ensure mass viewing. This was the same
technique done in Tehran when that 26 year-old beautiful young
Iranian girl took a round to the chest which was graphically video
taped
. The cameraman, spotter and sniper worked together
when they targeted her in the crowd.


GLADIO: Destabilization 101

But definitely military-trained professional snipers. Need more
evidence as to who hired them.



They were all shot in the back from defensive positions. Murder.

And Britain's Catherine Ashton doesn't want them arrested and
imprisoned because the snipers were "shooting at police."
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Post  tgII Thu 06 Mar 2014, 02:18

re: this just in on the snipers (Maiden) in Kiev

The Russian Duma member, Sergi Markov said he suspected "Blackwater
mercenaries as the snipers."

Blackwater changed its name to Academi. Why didn't Sergi Markov use
"Academi" instead of Blackwater. Maybe so people could more easily identify
Blackwater?

And now the Dr. Olga Bogomolets who is the medic for the Maidan
mobile clinic is now apparently denying that she made explicit claims to the
Estonian foreign affairs minister (Estonian PM and Catherine Ashton telephone
conversation) about police and protesters suffering the same kind of gunshot
wounds.

What a nasty set of circumstances unfolding here.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Thu 06 Mar 2014, 13:24

Tarpley's latest analysis.
Tarpley points to the corrupt Ukrainian players that are looking to benefit from their own efforts and by alignment with the EU-NATO criminals.
He also recommends the best course of action for Ukraine to take for itself.

http://tarpley.net/new-ukraine-imf-puppet-regime-a-zoo-of-fascists-racists-antisemites-thugs-finlandization-offers-best-way-out-of-crisis/

The gas pipelines and gas discovered in western Ukraine...



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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Thu 06 Mar 2014, 13:48

Crimea votes to join Russia, accelerating Ukraine crisis
Reuters
By Alissa de Carbonnel

SIMFEROPOL, Ukraine (Reuters) - Crimea's parliament voted to join Russia on Thursday and its Moscow-backed government set a referendum within 10 days on the decision in a dramatic escalation of the crisis over the Ukrainian Black Sea peninsula.

The sudden acceleration of moves to bring Crimea, which has an ethnic Russian majority and has effectively been seized by Russian forces, formally under Moscow's rule came as European Union leaders gathered for an emergency summit to seek ways to pressure Russia to back down and accept mediation.

The Crimean parliament voted unanimously "to enter into the Russian Federation with the rights of a subject of the Russian Federation".

The vice premier of Crimea, home to Russia's Black Sea military base in Sevastopol, said a referendum on the status would take place on March 16. He said all state property would be "nationalized" and the Russian ruble could be adopted.

The announcement, which diplomats said could not have been made without Russian President Vladimir Putin's approval, raised the stakes in the most serious east-west confrontation since the end of the Cold War. Russia stocks fell and the ruble weakened further after the news.

Far from seeking a diplomatic way out, Putin appears to have chosen to create facts on the ground before the West can agree on more than token action against him.

EU leaders had been set to warn but not sanction Russia over its military intervention after Moscow rebuffed Western diplomatic efforts to persuade it to pull forces in Crimea, with a population of about 2 million, back to their bases. It was not immediately clear what impact the Crimean moves would have.

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said in a Twitter message: "We stand by a united and inclusive #Ukraine."

French President Francois Hollande told reporters on arrival at the summit: "There will be the strongest possible pressure on Russia to begin lowering the tension and in the pressure there is, of course, eventual recourse to sanctions."

The new Ukrainian government has declared the referendum illegal and opened a criminal investigation against Crimean Prime Minister Sergei Askyonov, who was appointed in a closed-door session by the region's parliament last week. The Ukrainian government does not recognize his authority or that of the parliament.

A Crimean parliament official said voters will be asked two questions: should Crimea be part of the Russian Federation and should Crimea return to an earlier constitution (1992) that gave the region more autonomy?

"If there weren't constant threats from the current illegal Ukrainian authorities, maybe we would have taken a different path," deputy parliament speaker Sergei Tsekov told reporters outside the parliament building in Crimea's main city of Simferopol.

"I think there was an annexation of Crimea by Ukraine, if we are going to call things by their name. Because of this mood and feeling we took the decision to join Russia. I think we will feel much more comfortable there."

TENSION HIGH

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov refused to meet his new Ukrainian counterpart or to launch a "contact group" to seek a solution to the crisis at talks in Paris on Wednesday despite arm-twisting by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and European colleagues. The two men will meet again in Rome on Thursday.

Tension was high in Crimea after a senior United Nations envoy was surrounded by a pro-Russian crowd and forced to get back on his plane and leave the country on Wednesday.


The EU summit in Brussels seemed unlikely to adopt more than symbolic measures against Europe's biggest gas supplier, because neither industrial powerhouse Germany nor financial center Britain is keen to start down that road.

The United States has said it is ready to impose sanctions such as visa bans, asset freezes on individual Russian officials and restrictions on business ties within days rather than weeks.

The short, informal EU summit will mostly be dedicated to displaying support for Ukraine's new pro-Western government, represented by Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk, who will attend even though Kiev is neither an EU member nor a recognized candidate for membership.

After meeting European Parliament President Martin Schulz, Yatseniuk appealed to Russia to respond to mediation efforts.

The European Commission announced an aid package of up to 11 billion euros ($15 billion) for Ukraine over the next couple of years provided it reaches a deal with the International Monetary Fund, entailing painful reforms like ending gas subsidies.

Diplomats said that at most, the 28-nation EU would condemn Russia's so far bloodless seizure of the Black Sea province and suspend talks with Moscow on visa liberalization and economic cooperation, while threatening further measures if Putin does not accept mediation efforts soon.

They were expected to hold back from tougher steps both in hopes of a diplomatic breakthrough and out of fear of a tit-for-tat trade war with Russia, a major economic partner of Europe.

France has a deal to sell warships to Russia that it is so far not prepared to cancel, London's banks have profited from facilitating Russian investment, and German companies have $22 billion invested in Russia.
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A woman walks past a Bulgarian communist-era monument painted by unknown people in Sofia March 5, 20 …

Before the summit, European members of the Group of Eight major economies will meet separately, diplomats said, in an apparent effort to coordinate positions towards Russia, due to host the next G8 summit in Olympic venue Sochi in June. They have so far stopped participating in preparatory meetings and Canada has said G7 countries may meet soon without Russia.

ILLEGITIMATE

The crisis began in November when Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich, under strong Russian pressure, turned his back on a far reaching trade deal with the EU and accepted a $15 billion bailout from Moscow. That prompted three months of street protests leading to the overthrow of Yanukovich on February 22.

Moscow denounced the events as an illegitimate coup and refused to recognize the new Ukrainian authorities.

Russia kept the door ajar for more diplomacy on its own terms, announcing on Thursday a meeting of former Soviet states in the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS), including Ukraine, for April 4 and saying it would be preceded by contacts between Russian and Ukrainian diplomats.

Lavrov said attempts by Western countries to take action over the Ukraine crisis via democracy watchdog OSCE and the NATO military alliance were not helpful.

In a move that may alarm some of Russia's neighbors and the West, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev announced steps to ease handing out passports to native Russian speakers who have lived in Russia or the former Soviet Union.

Putin has cited the threat to Russian citizens to justify military action in both Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine now.

After a day of high-stakes diplomacy in Paris on Wednesday, Lavrov refused to talk to Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andriy Deshchitsya, whose new government is not recognized by Moscow.

As he left the French Foreign Ministry, Lavrov was asked if he had met his Ukrainian counterpart. "Who is that?" the Russian minister asked.

He stuck to Putin's line - ridiculed by the West - that Moscow does not command the troops without national insignia which have taken control of Crimea, besieging Ukrainian forces, and hence cannot order them back to bases.

Kerry said afterwards he had never expected to get Lavrov and Deshchitsya into the same room right away, but diplomats said France and Germany had tried to achieve that.

Western diplomats said there was still hope that once Lavrov had reported back to Putin, Russia would accept the idea of a "contact group" involving both Moscow and Kiev as well as the United States and European powers to seek a solution.

The European Union formally announced it had frozen the assets of ousted Ukrainian president Yanukovich and 17 other officials, including former prime minister Mykola Azarov, suspected of human rights violations and misuse of state funds.

"RUSSIA! RUSSIA!"

In an awkward coincidence as EU leaders were gathering in Brussels, German Economy Minister and Vice-Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel traveled to Moscow for talks with his Russian counterpart and Putin.

Reflecting concern about how the long-planned trip might be seen in the midst of the Ukraine crisis, Gabriel dropped at the last minute plans to take along German industrialists with him. Germany has been accused in some quarters of soft-pedaling on sanctions in the light of its close economic ties to Russia.

Outside of Crimea, in eastern and southern cities that saw big pro-Russian demonstrations, the tide of public opinion appears to be turning in favor of Kiev.

Ukrainian police cleared pro-Moscow demonstrators who had been holed up in the regional parliament building in Donetsk and raised the Ukrainian flag where the Russian one had mostly been flying since Saturday.

Pro-Kiev demonstrations are now much larger than pro-Moscow ones in the city, home town of ousted leader Yanukovich.

Putin has said Russia reserves the right to intervene militarily in other areas of Ukraine if Russian interests or the lives of Russians are in danger.

Dropping diplomatic niceties on Wednesday, the U.S. State Department published a "fact sheet" entitled "President Putin's Fiction: 10 False Claims about Ukraine."

"As Russia spins a false narrative to justify its illegal actions in Ukraine, the world has not seen such startling Russian fiction since Dostoyevsky wrote, 'The formula "two plus two equals five" is not without its attractions,'" the State Department said in the document.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Thu 06 Mar 2014, 14:49

Russia Mulls Seizing Foreign Assets Over Sanctions Threat

MOSCOW, March 5 (RIA Novosti) – The upper house of Russia’s parliament is mulling measures allowing property and assets of European and US companies to be confiscated in the event of sanctions being adopted against Russia over its threatened military intervention in Ukraine.

The bill’s author, Federation Council constitutional legislation committee head Andrei Klishas, said Wednesday that lawyers are currently studying whether the proposed confiscations would be constitutional.

“But we have no doubts that it clearly corresponds to European standards,” Klishas told RIA Novosti. “The recent events in Cyprus spring to mind, where the confiscation of assets was the main demand made by the European Union in return for economic aid.”

An adviser to President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that authorities would issue general advice to dump US government bonds if Russian companies and individuals were targeted by sanctions over events in Ukraine.

According to US Treasury data from the end of 2013, Russian investments in US government bonds total around $139 billion out of a total of $5.8 trillion of US debt held in foreign hands.

Earlier this week, US and European officials warned that Russia’s alleged actions in Ukraine could lead to economic sanctions and asset freezes. US Secretary of State John Kerry told NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday that the United States and some of its allies were “prepared to go to the hilt to isolate Russia.”

Putin has denied any Russian troops have already been deployed in the southern Ukrainian republic of Crimea, although numerous eyewitnesses have reported seeing large numbers of well-armed troops without insignia moving around the peninsula in military vehicles bearing Russian license plates.
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Post  tgII Fri 07 Mar 2014, 03:58

re: Russia confiscating U.S. assets or putting them at risk

Works both ways I guess.

Wonder if there is a way to neutralize banks and the interest debt they create?

Islamic banking?
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Post  Sputnik Fri 07 Mar 2014, 10:02

Yes, there is a orthodox jewish rebellion in Israel - unreported by western media - have declared "holy war" against the Zionists, a couple of days ago half a million Jews marched infront of the Knesset, and what could Naetanjahu do? shoot at them?

This is the gist .. all orthodox jews of the main three branches, so Talmudists and Thora Jews, came to the conclusion that it is vital for their own survival, and the survival of the world..to destroy Israels current government. They swore non violent resticence until death.

They formed think tanks that indeed are working on a new JEWISH BANKING using islamic banking as main inspiration..for their guidelines to future banking !!!

Keter Institute is attempting to define banking according to the Halakha Jewish religious law.

http://www.keter.org.il/

The idea is copied from Islam's banking since a century. A banking system based on sharing profit and loss; it forbids lending money at interest so that usury is avoided. BTW, in all 3 Abrahamic faiths usuary is forbiden.

Non-usury Islamic Banking is used by over 300 institutions in more than 50 countries and is growing at an annual rate of over 10%, despite not using Western definitions of interest. Remember that next time you pay usury.

We are witnessing the SHOWDOWN between Anglo-America vs. Asia. The Chinese have a secret financial weapon which I hope is ready before the missles start flying! They're going to do what Saddam Hussein and General Gaddafi were trying to implement in the Arab world:

GOLDBACKED CASH MONEY TO KILL THE DEBT-BASED FIAT MONEY.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Fri 07 Mar 2014, 16:34

All I have read about so far is that the Orthodox Jews are protesting the Knesset because they want to remain exempt from serving in the Israeli military.  A protest against the draft...conscription.

Please provide the links that support your points that the protesting had anything to do with or there is a current movement regarding...

1.  That they were protesting because they have declared holy war against Zionists. (For reasons other than exemption from military service)

2.  That all orthodox jews of the main three branches (Talmudists, Tora and ???) are seeking to destroy Israels current government.

3.  That they swore non-violent resistance until death.

4.  They formed think tanks that are working on a new JEWISH BANKING using islamic banking as main inspiration..for their guidelines to future banking eliminating interest.
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Post  Sputnik Fri 07 Mar 2014, 16:54

Read this: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/174959#.Uxn5_YUSrY4





"Netanjahu is bad for the Jews"

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There is a newpaper war of words going on, basically Shin Bet mouthpieces like Haaretz vs Ultra Orthodox

The Orthodox Jews are making references to fighting till death and Sampson, that it's better to die alongside Palestinians.
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Post  Sputnik Fri 07 Mar 2014, 17:04

Well there is for obvious reason very little info on this inner-Israeli Rebellion in western media, guess why.

Try this for starters and then I guess near future will tell us more on this topic.

Jewish Member of the Knesset Calls to Rebel against Zionism:
http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2014/02/19/jewish-member-knesset-calls-rebel-zionism/
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Fri 07 Mar 2014, 18:27

While trying not to be difficult, contrary or argumentative, but I just cannot extrapolate from these sources and citations the directly relationships and profundity of the points you suggested.

Where are the Jewish protests for the revealing of Israel's nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction arsenals to the international community?
Where are the Jewish protests for the use of banned white phosphorus on civilians and school children?
Where are the Jewish protests against the illegal settlements and expansion into Palestinian territories?
Where are the Jewish protests against the racist policies against Israel's African immigrants?
Where are the Jewish protests against AIPAC and their nefarious interventions into US domestic government interests?
War crimes and crimes against humanity?

These are violations of the Torah.

These are issues that involve the Jew looking outside of their own interests and being concerned with how the Jew is affecting others...non-Jews.
Ain't gonna' happen.  Because they can't even begin to think that way...they are too religio-tribal-ego-centric to think outside of themselves.
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Post  Sputnik Fri 07 Mar 2014, 23:44

Hey....I am totally agreeing with you..

I am just trying to suss out the little hebrew that is surfacing, and it seems that the coalition of Orthodox Jewry and secular Zionism is having a major JEWISH Eclipse of some sort. Whatever comes of that, Im as curious as you are QSC
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Sat 08 Mar 2014, 00:51

It will be interesting to monitor the developments. I wholly appreciate your contributions.
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Post  KapitanScarlet Sat 08 Mar 2014, 02:19

Telephone bug monitors have revealed a series of intercontinental TELEFON calls from eastern europe to usa key media and politic figures with the following dialogue …..

"The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, but I have promises to keep. And miles to go before I sleep, and miles to go before I sleep. Remember. Miles to go before I sleep."
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Post  KapitanScarlet Sat 08 Mar 2014, 11:47

this may b why the puppet kerry was able to carry out that excellent bs acting job on news channels
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/talking-numbers/this-oil-giant-could-get-crush-by-ukraine-200317976.html

whats the chef term for a 3 portion cut an slice  Razz 
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Post  Sputnik Sat 08 Mar 2014, 17:06

Just a typical half truth article because this Chevron deal was made with JANUKOVICH. Nothing special about it and now just a fake reason given to say Russia got a problem with that, when in fact the Gas in Ukraine isn't such a big deal to Russia as this article tries to make it out.

That would be mostly shale [that fukken FRACKING SHIT] gas .. which is not really good for the environment or a sufficient enough energy resource that could ever beat countries like Russia or Norway.

The only one real objective for the US government to start a war in Europe is to fuck over Russia by making their military base unmanagable. Remember TARTUS in Syria? Well Russia doesn't really have excesive military bases around the world as the USA does, because it only has those that are PROTECTING THEIR OWN ENERGY PIPELINES AND SEA ROUTES in agreement with client states. Now Tartus is defunct due to the Syria war, Putin will not shy away to american induced  WORLD WAR 3 if the USA really wants to - no question about that.

The second objective of the USA is also very VISIBLE, it's to install NATO into Ukraine to enhance US first strike capability as I have pointed out before - and before Russia will allow this they will retaliate by hitting USA/UK/ISRAEL/SAUDI ARABIA with nuclear war heads - you can BET your arses on that me friends!

In truth I think this has even the potential to sink the EU, forget Merkel and all those idiot EU politicians, but many Economies are actually very much FRIENDS with Russia..including large parts of the German economy, and they will NOT accept Washingtons *DEATH SPELL* against EU economic interests.
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Post  KapitanScarlet Sat 08 Mar 2014, 21:13

The second objective of the USA is also very VISIBLE, it's to install NATO into Ukraine to enhance US first strike capability

I think the ruskies realised post cuba 63  that this first strike close land base option was not really necessary in the nuclear age because they always have several invisible closer first strike options available 24/7  pirat 

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but many Economies are actually very much FRIENDS with Russia..including large parts of the German economy, and they will NOT accept Washingtons *DEATH SPELL* against EU economic interests.
Too True Sput, but not only russia-dependent , the worlds leading economies are now inseparable bedmates due to corporate interlinked control, expect to see much more "corporate" lingo and infrastructures introduced throughout the developed worlds societys as the Rollerball Dystopian model takes shape, i wonder how long it takes to have the legalised death game introduced to replace wars ?

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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Mon 17 Mar 2014, 20:18

Obama announces limited sanctions against Russia.
Some would consider sanctions to be a form of declaration of war.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?318328-3/president-announces-sanctions-russia

Could it be that Obama truly is the Leopard mentioned in the Book of Revelation, the last king of the south, Kenya, to do battle with the last king of the north, Putin?
The last king of the south loses to the king of the north in the Book of Revelation.

Moscow (AFP) - A leading anchor on Russian state television on Sunday described Russia as the only country capable of turning the United States into "radioactive ash", in an incendiary comment at the height of tensions over the Crimea referendum.

"Russia is the only country in the world realistically capable of turning the United States into radioactive ash," anchor Dmitry Kiselyov said on his weekly news show on state-controlled Rossiya 1 television.

Kiselyov made the comment to support his argument that the United States and President Barack Obama were living in fear of Russia led by President Vladimir Putin amid the Ukraine crisis. His programme was broadcast as the first exit polls were being published showing an overwhelming majority of Crimeans voting to leave Ukraine and join Russia. He stood in his studio in front of a gigantic image of a mushroom cloud produced after a nuclear attack, with the words "into radioactive ash".

The Soros drone known as McCain serves up his tasty bullshit on a cracker...

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Post  KapitanScarlet Mon 17 Mar 2014, 23:27

Everyone with an open mind witnessed exactly what pathetic puppets obama and cameron are, during that checkmate move by putin on syria, and from the uk media point of view ,  obama and cameron are not taken seriously by anyone , although the bbc  have carried out an emergency patch up job on cameron  so they can at least wheel him out now and then to spit some meaningless spell out

Whether that impostor puppet acting president obamawama will be the cause of some armageddon ,  i sure hope not quicksilver , or we all xxxed  Twisted Evil 

With that said,  i don't think its (armagedon) going to happen,  but  putting some brakes on this statement ,  I'm still not sure how that dead dollar is going to get dumped as the world currency criminal but surely thats going to have to happen sometime coming , someone may come up with an ingenious process  Idea

hey have you thought of buying some rubles  Question 
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