The connection between Health and Dentistry

I brush my teeth with hydrogen peroxide to stay away from flouride. Got that idea from my Uncle's dentist. It works better if you floss first.

Thanks for this link Kapis. My mother recently had all mercury removed from her mouth by a holistic dentist.

The waterpik...better than floss.

One can add a small amount of hydrogen peroxide, or even better, "stabilized" chlorine dioxide to the water for added hygienic benefit.

http://www.waterpik.com/

Counter top model...


Cordless...




There actually is no more effective oral rinse than chlorine dioxide...there was an international conference of dentists that had agreed that chlorine dioxide was the most effective product for an oral rinse, even beating out other compounds one can only get with a prescription, it is the best at killing bacteria and eliminating bad breath sulphur compounds....by effectively killing as many bacteria as possible you are also reducing plaque formation...there is no harm in using Chlorine Dioxide as an oral rinse...here is an example of a commercial product...

http://profresh.com/chlorine_dioxide_mouthwash.html

The primary source of breath odor is sulfur gases resulting from the putrifaction of sulfur-amino acids in oral epithelial cells, saliva, blood elements and food debris in the mouth by oral bacteria. Hydrogen sulfide and methylmercaptan (H2S and CH3SH, respectively) are the principal odor molecules, and these are detectable in air at the parts per billion level.

These compounds are readily oxidized and destroyed by the oxidant chlorine dioxide (Cl02), which has long been used to disinfect and deodorize municipal water supplies worldwide. Chlorine Dioxide mouth rinse is uniquely effective in oxidizing odoriferous, organic compounds such as those responsible for bad breath.

There have been many attempts to make a mouthwash that contains chlorine dioxide to combat bad breath. The most conspicuous of these have been mouth rinses that contain a chemical called sodium chlorite which is a salt used in the manufacture of chlorine dioxide. Because it is a chemical precursor of chlorine dioxide, sodium chlorite is also called "stabilized chlorine dioxide" despite the fact that it contains no chlorine dioxide.

"Stabilized chlorine dioxide" mouthwash was introduced in the 1970's and claimed the benefits of chlorine dioxide without any substantiating research. Today we still have "stabilized chlorine dioxide" mouth rinses such as Oxyfresh® and Dr. Katz's Therabreath® which are marketed with claims as though they contain chlorine dioxide although they do not.

In 1992, Dr. Jon L. Richter developed a new formula for a chlorine dioxide mouthwash that maintains a constant concentration of 25-35 mg per liter of chlorine dioxide over a period of six months after activation. Each bottle is activated by the user upon opening. The ProFresh formula is U.S.Patented. By law this formula cannot be duplicated, and as a result, no other brand of mouthwash may include any significant amount of chlorine dioxide as an ingredient. ProFresh Mouth Rinse is also registered with the FDA.

Recent studies confirm that the effect of "stabilized chlorine dioxide" mouthwash on bad breath odorants are negligible compared to ProFresh Chlorine Dioxide Oral Rinse!

The Karch Report...
http://therichtercenter.com/karch.html

The CDC study on Chlorine Dioxide for human internal use and ingestion...

CDC Study of Chlorine Dioxide Controlled Clinical Evaluations of Chlorine Dioxide, Chlorite and Chlorate in Man. Lubbers, J.R., Chauhan, S. and Bianchine, J.R. (1981). Fundam. Appl. Toxicol. 1:334–338 [23]. To assess the relative safety of chronically administered chlorine water disinfectants in man, a controlled study was undertaken. The clinical evaluation was conducted in the three phases common to investigational drug studies. Phase I, a rising dose tolerance investigation, examined the acute effects of progressively increasing single doses of chlorine disinfectants to normal healthy adult male volunteers. Phase II considered the impact on normal subjects of daily ingestion of the disinfectants at a concentration of 5 mg/L for twelve consecutive weeks. Persons with a low level of glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase may be expected to be especially susceptible to oxidative stress (Moore, 1980b); therefore, in Phase III, chlorite at a concentration of 5 mg/L, was administered daily for twelve consecutive weeks to a small group of potentially at-risk glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficient subjects. Physiological impact was assessed by evaluation of a battery of qualitative and quantitative tests. The three phases of this controlled double-blind clinical evaluation of chlorine dioxide and its potential metabolites in human male volunteer subjects were completed uneventfully. There were no obvious undesirable clinical sequellae noted by any of the participating subjects or by the observing medical team. In several cases, statistically significant trends in certain biochemical or physiological parameters were associated with treatment; however, none of these trends was judged to have physiological consequence. One cannot rule out the possibility that, over a longer treatment period, these trends might indeed achieve proportions of clinical importance. However, by the absence of detrimental physiological responses within the limits of the study, the relative safety of oral ingestion of chlorine dioxide and its metabolites, chlorite and chlorate, was demonstrated.

My favorite toothpaste...I do get a fluoride free variety

http://www.tomsofmaine.com/products/toothpaste#/?page=Toothpaste

http://www.tomsofmaine.com/products/slsfree/product-details/clean-and-gentle-care-sls-free-antiplaque-plus-whitening-fluoride-free-toothpaste

Sounds great, a water flosser, never seen nor heard of them, i cant be assed flossing at the best of times , will look into one

The waterpik has been around for ages in the U.S. There is only one distributor here in Norway, so I bought one this year for my wife's mother as she has had some recent gum problems. They have settings for increasing the power of the water stream, but you don't really need to max. these out to effectively clean and massage the gums. In fact, a dentist friend recommended to me that you don't use them too high. The countertop model has a dial from 1-10 settings. I find someone with healthy gums and no tenderness or bleeding of the gums when brushing can use a 5 or 6 regularly. And 1-4 can be used initially as you work up in strength according to how strong the gums get over time.

Again, with chlorine dioxide mixed into the water, this device can help those who have gum pockets.

I also find when I brush my teeth with the toothpaste, that once a week I sprinkle on a powder mix of 50 percent sea salt and 50 percent baking soda for a little bit of a light scouring action...only very light pressure with the toothbrush when using this. And every night put some of this powder on your finger and massage into the gumline...works well at keeping the environment alkaline. Someone told me this mixture may, may, may, actually allow calcium to re-integrate into the tooth, but I am not sure of this.

Wimps; this is what I use to remove plaque:

Mr. G. - Now I understand why the Japs are so loopy. They've been eating scrap metal since the bombs dropped over Nagasaki, and Hiroshima. I can't believe I never thought about this before. Hang in there. I'll send over a pizza sometime.

Here's what I've been using as far as a toothbrush goes:

Rotadent



http://www.dentist.net/rotadent.asp#back

It spins at a high rate of velocity, and the brushes are silky smooth. I love it. I still use fluoride toothpaste. You conspiracy geeks got it wrong. Just kidding, the truth is, I've been too lazy to look for a good non fluoride toothpaste. I should do that.

Bombs away, the whole country is fucking loony.

i had not been to a dentist for 4 years since my own one had decided to retire, so after hearing of others going for regular check ups .........because their advised to as a precautionary measure for good maintenance etc , i decided somewhat with resistance that maybe i should sign up for a new dentist and get a check up .
I had no problems at all with teeth, i could take hot or cold water in mouth, chew any which way with no pain at all
At the check up , it was a young gun dentist , really nice guy with a very attractive assistant

He informed me i had a leaking filling and that i should get it sorted now because rot would be setting in
I thought about it and against my own instincts (because i had no sense of any problem at all ) decided to take his advice

I imagined it would be a quick 5 second drill and fill , how wrong was i, he very nearly drilled the whole corner of my mouth out, must have removed most of the tooth , ive never been so violently vibrated in my life by a dentists drill

After he was finished, he informed me , that tooths at the end of its days and next time it would have to come out , so i escaped with the tooth still there, or at least its root, but now it was sensitive to cold water ....a little annoying although liveable with

3 weeks later im eating happily when wam , massive pain at area of his art , as sharp a pain as i ever got in my mouth , serious,
managed to relieve it by flossing, and removed something jamming , presumed i had cracked something while eating

back for a check up and he cant find anything, i relay to him, theres gotta be something that caused that pain , next look he says , aagh i see a little chip there, going to have to drill some out and refill

Episode 2 of most violent drilling ever and he fills , i think the tooth beside the previous one

Now ive still got sensitivity to cold and hot water on one side of mouth , and a pain if i eat with that side of mouth , although its ok otherwise

I could go back but what can be said now, the damage was done, 2 perfectly pain free teeth now drilled out and filled and pain sensitive to eating or hot cold fluids

Grrrrrrrr muthxxxermuthaxxer

Always go with your instincts no matter what any one else says - i slipped up there but got out alive

...you too, Kapis? ...sounds like you cut a deal with the 'dental devil' on having the teeth looked at...that's what I did last year about this same time: decided to have my teeth looked at...

...went to the dentist and it is a husband wife team...deadly tag team, Japanese: proficiently very good at what they do...they go back and forth rotating at each visit I make. On the first visit the wife checks my teeth and then starts hacking away with sanitized - one would hope they were sanitized - stainless steel very dangerous looking chisels on my teeth...very painful and so she worked on one quarter of my teeth at each subsequent visit...

...and why is it called a 'dental visit' anyway? I'm not there visiting..."come on little Johnny, let's go visit the dentist." ...what, is this how they get children hooked on the dentist?

...after the first traumatic experience after not being at the dentist in years; because I have always took very good care of the chompers...now it is looking like by the time these technicians get done with what ever the hell it is they think they are doing inside my mouth, I'm going to need a full set of dentures!

...I wake up the next morning and a chunk of one of my upper teeth is missing...broke off during sleep and never found it so assumed I swallowed the damn thing...the wife tech chiseled away on my teeth the day before so hard she cracked the damn tooth and then spent the next six moths doing a root canal because the root was dead and then partially capping it...what the hell...

...I am scared to death to go back because now the husband wants to use - forgot the English; what the hell do they call that when the doctor uses a nerve killer? ? - ...to dig down deeper around the bone structure to 'scrape off plaque'...

...it just keeps escalating, now two upper molars are loose when they were fine before I went to the dentist...I don't understand...even though I have national dental insurance and pay only a fraction of the cost for the work, I keep thinking this team is pulling in a wheel barrow full of cash from the Japanese government every time I check out of their office and sign the insurance slip...

...it's not an insurance slip I signed...I signed a pact with the 'dental devil'; because now I have to continue going to the dentist to have all the damage repaired these two caused in the first place apparently just to do 'maintenance' on my teeth...if they can't damage my teeth and then repair them they don't make any money...this is just fucking preposterous!

...they are very nice people, these two dentists, the husband and wife team, but how do I tell them I've had enough..please, just stop the physical destruction of my teeth...

Hmmm......time to find a holistic dentist, or better yet don't go to any dentist at all. I think almost everyone in industrialized parts has had that happen to them. Those root canals and so forth, they are a major profit, just like the doctors who take out organs.
Go figure, what you put in your body is key. And that any bone or teeth problem or disease can be prevented and reversed (fillings refill with natural dentin and so forth, no need for dentist fillings ever) by three main things: Cod liver oil, fermented is better, high vitamin butter and food rich in minerals, broth one of the best.
That is Dr. Weston Price's protocol. Here is a few websites that sell some of the above.
http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Home/index.cfm
http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/
And one person's experience with that program:
http://www.yourreturn.org/Treatments/Teeth/index.htm

There would be no need for dentists if we weren't being given some of the foods we are, but ice cream is so tasty.

And last but not least, something quite alarming is going on with Vitamin D. The news is that everyone is so called deficient in that vitamin.
Where do I begin with this???? Have people been low in this vitamin throughout history and if so they haven't got a disease, like you do with other vitamins one is very low on, so it never was a problem in the past, never. But all of a sudden it is and a major fuss is being made about it.
And guess what is going on these days, something with the radiation and solar flares and HAARP and who knows what else.
And then guess what else, Vitamin D needs ultraviolet light in order to properly work. So who is messing with the atmosphere which will then of course cause us not to properly use Vitamin D.
I wonder who is telling the doctors that everyone and I mean everyone is deficient in Vitamin D. Why are they saying this. Is it because of the atomospheric changes.
Something very bizarre is going on, I can't even explain it correctly.

I just talked to a man who was getting beginning stages of so called alzheimers and they were almost completely dysfunctional, and he said his doctor gave him 50,000 units of vitamin D every day for several months and it cured him, he got his mind back. So it is a very important brain vitamin.

Cheers for those links seraphim and im going to make sure i catch nice doses of sunshine to keep my lightcharge up

...I signed a pact with the 'dental devil'; because now I have to continue going to the dentist to have all the damage repaired these two caused in the first place apparently just to do 'maintenance' on my teeth

You too TG , i know 2 others who have been butchered by those high paid "pros", their some of the high earners in uk pulling in 400 000 a year , and money corrupts the selfish mind

Im putting an email to mine explaining the situation , to see what feedback i get, but i know ive been butchered at some level and a hard lesson learned

dentristy, drills, mercury, flouride, aspartame

psychiatry, (olden days) electro shock. lobotomies, castration.

doctors. knives, drugs, scissors, saws


its just a little on the macabre side

there was an essay in a uk paper recently about dodgy dentists warning about things like i may have experienced where they carry out work that is not necessary and create problems

but they also warned against a new potential danger flooding the market in europe, fake gold crowns and bridges being used on the public .
Dental labs are reported to be making thousands of gold coloured dental implants each year for nhs and private dentists using imported alloys that look like gold but are not
These cost a fraction the price of real gold, although some patients may agree to the cheaper metal to save money
NHS dentists are not allowed to use the copper - alluminium based alloys as they may corrode under attack from saliva and bacteria.
They can then release potential toxic metal particles into the mouth
But there is no way of knowing how widespread the use of fake gold crowns has spread

Also increasing reports of people beinmg given treatment that lerads to more problems where they had no proble before , also saying that goinfg for a check up every 6 months is completly unecessary and recommending from the Nice based report of 2 years being just fine for check ups

They have corelated the rise of problem treatment with the increasing high wages the dentists can earn, and they are not just fixers now, but creators of work

How to Have an infected Molar Removed and not take antibiotics / pain killers
Not exactly of interest to many but thought id put it on the record in the interests of experienced phenomena

As i previously reported, i had encountered tooth pain in an area previously worked on by a dentist , prior to which there was zero pain
November last year, having visited a dentist for a routine check , having not been for about 5 years , and having no problems, i was informed he had found a leaking filling , i went with his advice and got it filled thinking it a 2 second job, but he had almost drilled the tooth down to the bone with heavy violent drilling , after that, it was never the same, i could not eat with it , and it was very sensitive to hot cold . one month later , a sudden violent pain in the same area took me back to him, he then filled another tooth next to that one , drawing blood with his violent drilling

Still had not solved problem ,which had been activated by my november visit , but i decided i did not want to go back to him at this point , thinking i could use mms to clean up any infection , although the mms certainly prolonged things, eventually the tooth started throbbing with pain without eating , thus affecting sleep, so then i was forced to make another apointment, the man i saw originally was on holiday, so i was given this newly qualified woman

She immediately told me the tooth was a previously root filled item, which was now infected and had decay below the gumline , she took me over and pointed things out on the xray , informing me i had only 2 options , have the tooth root filled again which may be a temporary success but not guaranteed or have the tooth extracted
I , without hesitation decided to have the molar tooth extracted as i really liked the professional demeanour of this woman
She then informed me that i had to take a glucose tablet as i had not eaten for many hours and she said many of the clients faint when a tooth is being removed ut i felt completly comfortable in this ladys attentions
2 freeze jags in the gum around the molar and five mins later, she was extracting the tooth, the enamel filling snapped first which she warned me about, then she had to go in 3 more times to take pieces out as a horrible stench came of the tooth as it came out from the infection

Ive got to say i was really happy it was now out and could do without it as i only had one other molar missing on other side , so no effects on lifestyle or speech

She then said that i should take a course of antibiotics for the infection and follow the post extraction advices
I told her i would like to avoid taking any tablets if possible , and she said that would be fine but to watch myself and if any increased inflammations, to take them

I was not allowed to leave the theatre until a blood clot had formed which had happened in a couple of minutes .

I never ate or drank for 4 hours when i decided the gum was barely seeping blood
it was about 6 hours after the extraction that the freeze completly wore off and i could then sense the dull throbbing of the wound itself kicking in , which was enough to keep me up most of the night
But what i noticed was that as soon as the wound started throbbing, if i got up and started walking around , very mild exercise, it eased off the pain enough to tolerate in a still position , i had to do this at various times overnight until eventually exhaustion put me down for about 3 hours at 7am in morn
When i got up on day 2 , the throb had lessened and i decided that makes sense, the wound is healing , i then started the salt water flushes which were to extract any surface bacterias forming
On night 2 , i actually slept for about 5 hours and all seemed well on the healing road
Then on day 3 , i was doing some physical work outside assisting an aquaintance most of the day , as i flushed it in salt water at early evening i got a severe pain, and this got me worried, even worse, i had been using tongue pressure on the adjacent tooth to test the healing process, ie there was negligible pain by doing that just after the extraction, but now as i did that it gave heavy pain as if the infection was worsening
This turned out to be one of the most uncomfortable nights i ever had, as the throbbing pain worsened and was constant along with the seemingly logical deduction that the infection was worsening and i may have to take the anti-biotics with the realization that my body could not deal with the wound without them
But worse than this, by midnight i started experiensing the most uncanny restlessness i had ever encountered , i was completly knackered from the days exertions and lack of sleep, but i could not relax at all, in addition to that, my neck started feeling stiff like there was an alien force inside me messing with the nervous system , i tried to reason that maybe when the tooth was extracted , the infection had suddenly been fed into the bloodstream from its previously contained area and this was the results .
But then at 5am in morning i decided to read the post extraction advices and notes beyond the altwater rinse advise and noted that it stated extreme discomfort may be experienced for up to 7 days, As the gum heals , pieces of bone may rearrange themselves or even break off and detach

This made sense and gave me some alternative possibility for the sudden new throbbing pain beyond infection spread .
I finally got 3 hours sleep at 7am from pure exhaustion and when i awoke in the morning , miraculously, when i touched the adjacent tooth, there was no pain at all, and all seemed well as on the second day, also the exteme exhausted restlessness had departed

Day 4 and day 5 have seen steady improvements and im just taking it easy for another couple days before i conclude full healing without antibiotics
But some very strange experiences along the way that i would not like to repeat too soon

So now my conclusion is that the tooth was on the way out, but the dentists attempt to refill it back in november had accelerated the problem
The crucial period was the third day when things suddenly got much worse and it would have been so easy to panic thinking the infection had gone out of control , and take the antibiotics and anything else anyone through at me, but by having the information from other peoples experiences at my hand ... and reading it... i was able to understand that bone movement / rearrangement / exhaust of fragments could occur creating new temporary bouts of pain

I had a feeling you wouldn't take the antibiotics.......

Kapis, after all that you should probably consider going to dental school. I understand Australian Tree oil is a very good anti-septic/antibiotic. I used to have a couple of bottles of this oil called Melaleuca laying around here some where.

• Tea Tree Oil, The Australian Germicide
  

...speaking of teeth problems...upper molars are loose on the right and left side. Have been since I started going to the dentist for regular visits about two years ago...the teeth are certainly 'clean', but after having my teeth worked on consistently for the past two years I have the feeling they are compromised. Why would the molars become loose?

Dentist told me he could either extract them and put in partials, or cement them together to give support.

Okay, well, that sucks, so decided to do some investigation to see if there wasn't anything I could be doing to rebuild the fragile bone structure around these molars. Started taking calcium in the form of coral calcium including a large mineral content in this calcium source. Ordered six bottles and take from 9-12 capsules daily.

I am under the impression through exercise, clean water and a clean intestinal tract my body should be able to absorb much of this calcium with some of it being deposited around this bone structure surrounding my upper molars. We'll see what happens in the coming months...

Kapis, what a pain in the ass.

TG - I have not encountered loose ones, there are as usual many opinions on the web, sounds like your doing all you can so good luck with that .
If there be a human designer maker, its another complaint on the deathbed labelled "Dear Lord ...notice for improvements", make xxing nashers that dont rot Lord

Hi TgII, you might want to take some fat soluble vitamins with that calcium for absorption. You can only really absorb about 200mg of Calcium out of all that each day. The more taken of that Calcium on a daily basis would make it deposit in other parts of your body and charlie horses, but coral is somewhat balanced in the mineral department so you shouldn't have that problem.

And then keep your mouth alkalinized with baking soda. Because sugar and acidity work together to create decay. Maybe it's due to stress and surrounding situation.
Have you heard of fulvic soil for remineralization. It's quite ancient.
Alright good luck....

TgII, another thing besides PH levels......maybe you can use some good quality salt, like Himalayan or celtic. That will make HCl in your stomach which is needed for good maintenance of teeth....... it's all connected. Folks tend to have low HCl. The culprit.....stress.

Natural Tooth Cure for Curing Cavities and Preventing Root Canals

http://www.naturalnews.com/022564.html




this was an amazing read..

tooth decay is caused primarily these two things

-by blood chemistry imbalances. processed foods, spike your blood chemistry sugar levels. this pulls minerals like calcium and phosphorous from bones and teeth

-not getting enough fat soluble vitamins and minerals like vitamins A, D E, and K.


this excerpt also states that bacteria dont thrive on processed sugar. because processed flour and sugar are processed to be spoilage free and bacteria actually like fruit and vegetables and meat.

sugars are a cause of tooth decay, but only because they ruin blood chemistry and cause that mineral extraction of calcium and phosphorous.


i might get the book id like to heal the brown spots on some of my molars and i need to get the rest of the info.


but it all makes sense now...dentistry heavily relies on the food industry to poison us, and to attack our blood chemistry. this causes eventual tooth decay despite brushing and flouride. all those two things do are remove plaque which is still important, but dont keep a person having healthy teeth neccessarily until they die. what i guess it does is it pacifies people and gives people great looking teeth. and with orthodontists giving people straight teeth and fixing underbites/overbites, the illusion that people are not being poisoned by the food industry.

HIgh Noon, just merged your post into the previous dental / health post , but thats a great piece you linked , makes much more sense to me, than say, any dentist

Woke up last night in the middle of a dead sleep with a searing burning
cramp ('charlie horse') in my left inner thigh (ham string area and tight as
a bound knot). The pain was excruciating: mineral-based coral calcium?
Holy shit that hurt...

Just had the top of my back molar cut off, the inner structure of the tooth
holding the nerve cut off and pulled out, and a root canal done last week -
point is: it's too late...

If parents do not make sure they feed their children properly and get
them off to a good nutritional healthy start of prevention from the very
beginning re Weston A. Price Foundation suggestions, that child will suffer
immeasurable physical destruction when they are older. That would be me...
(physical destruction begins early)

It is now too late, the decay occurred when I was young and now the
results are stepping forth for resolution: drilling; scrapping off plaque (very
painful); root canals, polishing; replacing old cavities; constant exams;
X-rays; more drilling; tooth extraction (partial for me last week); this really
sucks and teeth are a pain in the royal health compromised ass...

I would like to shoot the fucker who started processing sugar into its
highly refined extracts...and the grain cartels (sugared breakfast cereals);
criminal syndicates and should be taken to the Hague for crimes against
humanity...and what of ignorant parents? How does that slight problem get
corrected?