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Post  seraphim on Fri 27 Aug 2010, 05:42





The Cygnus "bow in the clouds" occurs where there is a "cloud over the earth." The celestial earth is the ecliptic path or plane. When the "tabernacle of the sun" at the vernal equinox is at its farthest distance below the galactic cloud, that is the moment defined in the covenant with Noah. That bow is in the middle of the body of Quetzalcoatl, where the Fox and the Hummingbird reach the moment of the rising sun. Thus the second cosmogenesis of Exodus is the same moment as the cosmogenesis of the Popol Vuh. The distinction is that the relationship between Gemini, all animals two by two, and Sagittarius, the bow of gnosis, implies that the zodiac message is meant by Genesis. This is the fundamental meaning of the Thieve's Cross and the struggle between Seven Hunahpu and Seven Macaw. The Popol Vuh is unambiguous in declaring that the way back to the First Father is through the Caiman Tree as Quetzalcoatl and out of the mouth of First Mother. Cygnus is the "first" asterism in the mouth at Quetzalcoatl. The meaning is quite clear. Gnosis and rational understanding are not pathways to truth, only experience in Mother Nature will reveal truth. The Popol Vuh and the story of Noah agree, that the way to reincarnated life is through the cosmic waters of the galaxy to the swan of satisfaction.

This truth is so obvious, that one wonders why it has to be said in all the great rituals of humanity. The answer to this enigma is the loss of the head of First Father. All youths pass through the Xibalba Be of adolescence, when denial of ancestors is mandatory to develop self identity. But, this passage is confounded by many tricksters, the most dominant being head strong (Maya) or stiff necked (Exodus) behavior. Once we get through the adolescent passages in our lives, they become barriers to returning to youthful arrogance. But, that is another trickster, for arrogance is just the excess faith in the self to get through the game of life. Hunahpu is One Hunahpu returning to pass through an arrogant adolescence in order to recover the loss of the use of a clear head. Here is where Western Culture ventures deep into Xibalba, and far fewer return than should. The perches placed along the modern Xibalba Be, which is also our road in the underworld of subliminal motivations, keep many a cocky person from reaching the birth canal of Mother Nature and seeing the true light in the superliminal world, where "free will" is just an extension of "cosmic will."

When we center up the heavens at the spring equinox of 2012 (left, below), it is clear that this is the true moment of cosmogenesis. The plane of the vernal equinox passes through the trunk of the Tree of Life. At the top of the tree in the prior age is the head of One Hunahpu in the form of Cepheus. At the bottom of the Tree of Life in the New Age is the body of One Hunahpu, with his feet in the "First Fire," which is the holocaust of the prior age. This is what the world had been waiting for, ever since Hunahpu and Xbalanque went to Xibalba to retrieve the spirit of First Father. To the winter solstice side of the tree is the reborn king in its western branches. The salvation path is up the trunk to Cygnus on the back of Pegasus.

On the autumn solstice (right, above) of 2012 we see the First Mother and First Father back in the land of maize with the jaguar. Here in the land of the Jaguar God and the Maize God, One Hunahpu returns to Happy Hunting Grounds. The Popol Vuh is a story about creation. It is one of many versions of the Greatest Story Ever Told. This book was not written by human hands, it was seen by loving eyes, and passed on for many generations in rituals, legends, and myths. It was written at the genesis of the cosmos.
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Post  seraphim on Fri 27 Aug 2010, 05:47


So now what?
Now that the cosmogenesis scene of the Eastern and Western Hemispheres can be seen in common, what of the moment? So, now what? Are the Maya silent on this point, or have they shrouded in secrecy for thousands of years the answer to this question? When humans behaved like the Leviathan, they trashed the world, because of their knowledge. Now that the Maya secrets have been revealed, will the peoples of the Western Hemisphere rise from the Land of Shadows and smite the peoples of the East because of the sacrifice of the sons and daughters of the Olmec, Toltecs, Incas, Maya, Aztecs, and all the native peoples of the Western Hemisphere?

The answer to these questions are available, since neither the East nor the West have been silent on this matter. The city of Teotihuacan is the New Jerusalem of the West. Within the sacred city of Teotihuacan, the answer is written in the path of these later day saints which was known as the Way of the Dead. When the Way of the Dead lies perfectly parallel to the Milky Way on its zenith around 4400 AD, the head of the image of the Son of God will be directly on its zenith. Between now and then, the East and the West will come to know each other. But, first, the peoples of Western Civilization will have to recognize that they are peoples of the East. The First Peoples of the West were massacred in unprecedented genocide, first for the sake of the gold in the conquered material domains, and finally for the lands. Though the gold was taken away, the Eastern Hemisphere conquerors failed to appreciate the spirit in the land. That spirit rose up and stole the hearts of the conquerors. Now, the truth can be revealed and the spirits of the vanquished can rise from the Land of Shadows and become an everlasting part of the life to come.

Listen to the prophet of Western Civilization as he prophecies the return of the Maya moment of cosmogenesis in Revelation 6:1-10.
1. And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3. And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
5. And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
7. And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
9. And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10. And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

John's words echo the spirits of all conquered peoples. But, listen again with a cosmic ear and you will see that the lamb with the power to read the little book from the heavens is the "I Am" of Aries. The one sitting on a white horse with a crown and a bow is Sagittarius, by virtue of the cloud of the Milky Way being strong at the bow. The one on the red horse with the power to take away the peace pipes of the native peoples is the desire in Scorpio, which is red by virtue of its brightest star, Antares. There should be no mystery why the one on the third horse carries a balance. This horse is Libra. Who is black because of the distance from the cloud of the Milky Way. These three are on the road of the merchants of wheat, barley, oil, and wine, which is the path of the wandering stars, the ecliptic. Now as to the one on the pale horse, this one can be identified by the powers it has over life and death. This is the one who stands by the gate with the ability to give or take away life. All that is required for the pale one to do his work is to give voice to the cosmic mother. This one on the pale horse was Zeus and Ophiuchus to the Greeks, and First Father to the peoples of the West.
The peoples of the 5th seal are the same as the peoples of the 5th Sun whom John identifies with the words, "under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held." How powerful were the conquering peoples of the East, when the ones whom they conquered carried out measures of self-sacrifice for the sake of their perception of the "word of God, and for the testimony which they held." They did not die in vain, they died so that the purposes of the original intent could be fulfilled. Whether the conquered souls fully understood their purpose in the Creator's plan on an individual basis is as hard to measure, as the individual awareness of the conquering souls to the genocide which they were performing to fulfill that plan. But, the undeniable fact is that the words of Revelation 6:1-10 are an echo of the moment known to the peoples of the West as 13 Baktun and the Maya Cosmogenesis of 2012. The original peoples of the Western Hemisphere were prepared for the completion of the works of the Great Spirit.

In closing this peek into the mind of the cosmic conjurers, we need to understand the flames before the caves in which we dwell. The conquerors from the East Hemisphere may have taken the material gold away from the native peoples of the West Hemisphere, but they could not take away their values. A world where human values were measured by equivalent ounces of gold was not understood by the peoples of the Western Hemisphere. They measured human values by a much higher standard, in accordance to the heat and spirit of the heart. Those values were established in the four days before the age of the fifth sun. On the first day, which is the period of enlightenment of the 1st Sun, material substance was granted to existence. Here is the place that the peoples from the east shores of the Atlantic had sunk before conquering the peoples west of the Atlantic. Their desire for gold stifled their desire for any other treasures. On the passing of the 2nd Sun, physical beings were given the capacity to maneuver freely within the material cave of creation. Athletes treasure this abode the highest. On the passing of the 3rd Sun, memories were recorded within the physical beings and gave birth to the imagination and the mind with the capacity to conjure the "dream time" in the heavens. Here is where the academics place their highest treasures. On the passing of the 4th Sun, a cosmic esprit de corps enveloped the minds and bodies of beings suggesting the possibilities of being all. Here is the treasure of priests and shamans who cherish spirituality of being One.

All of these periods had to pass before the age of the 5th Sun could be born, for during that final age, enlightenment of the meaning of creation was to become a treasure to behold. That treasure was the gold of spiritual truth held in the scriptures and legends of the peoples of the Western Hemisphere. That treasure the conquerors have not been able to find. It is not that the ancestors of the conquerors had not learned of the age of the 5th Sun, for its echos are heard throughout the Book of Life known as the Bible and its antecedent and subsequent scriptures. The Old Testament stories were derived from the same cosmic perceptions, and the beasts of the four Gospels and Revelation are symbols of the ancient metaphysics, with the ram being the sacrificial conscious which must set itself aside, so that the cosmic vision can be perceived. (Ezek 1:10, Rev 4:7)

To the Maya it was understood by the analogous journey of two generations of brothers who wandered into the underworld of Xibalba, and lost their heads, save one called Hunahpu, which means One Lord. The Bible stories all have the same origins as the Popol Vuh. However, their Biblical light had descended into darkness and the darkness comprehended it not when the descendants of the Indo-Europeans came West in search of value. The value the conquerors searched for was only half of what the cultures they conquered had given to the Great Spirit. For the conquered, the value of self-sacrifice was the fire which led to the rewards of an eternal creation. And the rewards of all creation were bestowed upon all living before the Age of the 5th Sun as fire and earth. From this day forward, we have to remain aware of what we have been witnesses to. That is the meaning and the legacy of the Age of the 5th Sun, which will become history on December 21, 2012 as anticipated by those mortals who understood the Maya Cosmogenesis of 13 Baktun.

They were people of the New Age, living well before their time in a world where dreams were equal to life, and life was but a dream. We are all cast upon this rock with a death sentence inherited by birth. Those who recognize that destiny before it is fulfilled can become the sons of God, while the life giving waters still flow. Those who venture into the underworld in the hopes that some merciful Lord of Xibalba will allow them some sense of victory to defeat the sentence of death will live in tribulation and despair, until the fires in their souls vanish. The story of One Hunahpu and his son Hunahpu tells the winners of the game that it is to be played with total commitment for the sake of the life to come in the generations which follow in the footsteps of the ancestors. Compassion for the sufferings of life is the secret they reveal to all who would proceed beyond the Cosmogenesis 2012. The time and the message were encoded in the New Jerusalem known to the Maya as Teotihuacan during the Age of the 5th Sun.
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Post  seraphim on Fri 27 Aug 2010, 05:58


In the ballcourt glyph, we see the same theme. Only here there is a twist. Three directions are indicated. To go left or right leads to death, or cosmic sleep. But, to rise up brings total cosmic awareness and renewal of a lost soul. The two paths to failure are doubt and belief. The reason why they lead to failure is because they are blind to self perception, and how it projects personal purpose. The approved path is to be perceiving as the self rises above the game. Life, for all its victories and defeats, is a game played on a cosmic stage. The effect on the cosmos will not be the doubt and the belief, but what the cosmos can inspire through self awareness in relationship to the cosmos. The one who wins that game will be expressed from the spiritual womb of its cosmic mother through the voice of Mother Nature. Thus, this birth is out of the mouth of First Mother. It is a statement of faith in the truth of personal purpose when that purpose has cosmic alignment. In other words, the game must be played on the cosmic stage if the individual is to achieve the kingdom to come. This concept is written into the words of modern religions and the process of modern science. It is the "scientific method" expressed in the monumental cosmic vernacular.




Four Elements of Creative Being
Now lets return to the meaning of the king in his cave (Lord Pacal) as a witnessing of cosmic events. The rational mind can grasp the definitions of self awareness and cosmic awareness. But, the rational mind cannot experience cosmic awareness. This can only be experienced through the senses of the physical body. If we allow man to be a metaphor for rational being, and woman to be a metaphor for sensual being in the form of emotions, feelings, and senses, then First Mother came before First Father, and she brought him out as a rationalization of emotions, feelings, senses, or other physical experiences. These physical experiences are cosmic events to the organism of the body. If the treasure held close to the heart is truthful experience, then that treasure can be used to understand events which cannot be experienced, or have not been experienced. This is the gift of prophecy, and the presence of the Cosmic Mind. The key to cosmic awareness is what is being held securely by the king in the cave. From the position in his cave, the king can perceive all time and space as an "out-of-body" experience, since he communicates beyond the physical means of the body. The vehicle he rides is truthfully inspired imagination. The fuel is the word from the ancestors, the Popol Vuh.

Four elements of ancient metaphysics are transformed by this cosmic process in which matter becomes spirit. That is an explanation that covers any human endeavor. The material world is just the prison which holds an uninspired soul. With the physical body of First Mother, and the rational mind of First Father, a conscious entity can transcend boundaries between the material and spiritual worlds. That is the goal of any, dare I say all, religions. The method by which that consciousness expresses itself is what we experience as culture. Culture is the child of the relationship of the First Parents; she being emotional, and he being rational. Every rational thought, every irrational dream, comes through the harbingers of inner emotions.

This process is true at the microscopic and the macroscopic levels. The new biological models of Bruce H. Lipton, Ph.D., support evidence for modification of the DNA of a cell nucleus by sensual transmission across the cell wall; the biological equivalent of the Maya king inspired within a cave. Equally amazing is the astrophysics work of Dr. Bernhard Haisch of The Astrophysical Journal and staff physicist at the Lockheed Martin Solar & Astrophysics Laboratory in Palo Alto. In the essay, Brilliant Disguise: Light, Matter and the Zero-Point Field in Science & Spirit Magazine, Haisch describes new science in astrophysics that shows matter to be dependent upon light for its behavior. His thesis indicates that matter does not exist of itself, but is dependent upon the underlying quantum level zero energy light field. Haisch said, "that mass is, in effect, an illusion. Matter resists acceleration not because it possesses some innate thing called mass, but because the zero-point field exerts a force whenever acceleration takes place. To put it in somewhat metaphysical terms, there exists a background sea of quantum light filling the universe, and that light generates a force that opposes acceleration when you push on any material object. That is why matter seems to be the solid, stable stuff that we and our world are made of." These two respected scientists are essentially saying what the Maya have said, as expressed by John Major Jenkins in Maya Cosmogenesis 2012. Consciousness is an allusion caused by the way light interacts with itself to cause the illusion of matter and cosmic presence. The transcendence of the king out of the metaphorical cave represents the stage in the process of life when cosmic secrets are understood and "carried out" by the individual. Clearly, this is no ordinary individual. This is a god, precisely as the Maya have said. They claimed that their sacred cities were the places where humans became divine.

The Maya, and all mature ancient cultures recognized that the raising of children was the ultimate purpose of the cosmos. The culmination of that growth was represented when a king exited the space-time material cave of consciousness and came into the world of cosmic spirituality. How individual groups affect that process is the essence of what we know as culture. Most cultures describe a trip into a Xibalba like place where tricksters or demons attempt to prevent the child from reaching cosmic consciousness and union with the cosmic rationality and sensuality; First Father and First Mother. The whole process was simulated as a ball game to teach the children what spirit to expect without teaching the actual cosmic event to expect. In other words, religion prepares the child to get out of the bondage within the psychic cave by an action metaphor. When children actually get to gates of cosmic consciousness, they will "know" the answers they will seek, even though they did not perceive the questions earlier in life. The tricksters that the children will encounter when they choose to cross the threshold into cosmic spirituality will be the believers who tell them they are right, wise, and good, as well as the skeptics who tell them they are wrong, insane, and bad.
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Re: Astrotheology and Creation

Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 23 Oct 2010, 13:09

Van Morrison ,circled in the square, a form of Jim Reflection (: but what or where is your imagination van cause that is where the creation was residing ?



"Astral Weeks” songs...were from another sort of place—not what is at all obvious. They are poetry and mythical musings channeled from my imagination...[They] are little poetic stories I made up and set to music. The album is about song craft for me—making things up and making them fit to a tune I have arranged. The songs were somewhat channeled works—that is why I called it 'Astral Weeks'. As my songwriting has gone on I tend to do the same channeling, so it’s sort of like 'Astral Decades', I guess."[38]
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Post  Sputnik on Sun 24 Oct 2010, 18:17

The celestial earth is the ecliptic path or plane. When the "tabernacle of the sun" at the vernal equinox is at its farthest distance below the galactic cloud, that is the moment defined in the covenant with Noah. etc. etc. etc. etc...

When we center up the heavens at the spring equinox of 2012 (left, below), it is clear that this is the true moment of cosmogenesis. The plane of the vernal equinox passes through the trunk of the Tree of Life.

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The astrotheological Doctrine of the World Ages is earth-centred rather than galactic. The coming and going of ages is believed to be determined by our local solar system, since this is what determines the duration of the precessional cycle. In a galactic view, on the other hand, the earth is but a holographic resonance projection of the entire galaxy, meaning that the spiritual cycles on earth have the same duration as the spiritual cycles in the galaxy and the universe at large. The spiritual cycles of the galaxy and the change in consciousness that they cause on earth is thus not dependent on the exact physical position of the earth in relation to the solar system or any other physical factors.

Btw, seekers..the Maya divided the Zodiac into thirteen, NOT twelve constellations.

.....there goes the rural age of Aquarius..back to the future. Suspect

SO NOW WHAT?


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Post  KapitanScarlet on Mon 25 Oct 2010, 02:44

SO NOW WHAT?

Its all coming down to 13 Days, Be Ready Wink

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Post  Sputnik on Mon 25 Oct 2010, 11:18

According to the correlation between the Long Count and Western calendars accepted by the great majority of Maya researchers (known as the GMT correlation), this starting-point is equivalent to August 11, 3114 BC in the proleptic Gregorian calendar or 6 September in the Julian calendar (−3113 astronomical).

Does TME really play a role?

It should be noted however that the cycles of the Long Count are independent of the solar year.
Many Maya Long Count inscriptions are supplemented by a Lunar Series, which provides information on the lunar phase.

What else could the Maya long count calendar depict?

Even so, example inscriptions exist which noted or implied lengthier sequences, indicating that the Maya well understood a linear (past-present-future) conception of time, the "cyclical nature" of time is highlighted as a pre-eminent one. A cyclical interpretation is also noted in Maya creation accounts, in which the present world and the humans in it were preceded by other worlds.

Maybe the Maya longcount is refering to the other worlds and not ours in particular?
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Post  seraphim on Mon 16 Jan 2012, 06:33

My opinion on astrotheology........How we die and how we are born...

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Post  KapitanScarlet on Mon 16 Jan 2012, 11:00

Superb presentation Seraphim, Like this guys style Cool
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Post  Sputnik on Thu 02 Feb 2012, 21:44

I guess my question slipped your attentions...Does TIME really play a role?
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Fri 03 Feb 2012, 09:49

...perhaps within only the first four dimensions.
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Post  seraphim on Sun 05 Feb 2012, 06:56

Thanks Kapis. He is amazing. He makes so much sense.

Does time play a role? I wish not. But I guess since time was created, everything is based on that. I really can't cope with time at all. It squashes everything. So I guess I will always be late.
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Post  Sputnik on Sun 05 Feb 2012, 15:15

there is a amazonian tribe that has no time reference in their language...they do not have a concept of time at all. when scientists and liguists talk to them and give them tests they feel reluctant and bewildered by the high strangeness of their western guests. As far as could be asserted, living without time, or outside of the time-frame makes an exceptionally HAPPY kind of peoples.
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Tue 07 Feb 2012, 02:05

As far as could be asserted, living without time, or outside of the time-frame makes an exceptionally HAPPY kind of peoples.

I think so too, but a world of technology is built under the disciplining cane of the timeclock and its bedmate , the bell

I really can't cope with time at all. It squashes everything. So I guess I will always be late
I seem to be trying to stretch each day to its limit for a long time now if that makes sense (:
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Post  seraphim on Sun 12 Feb 2012, 06:05

I guess I'm going to have to pretend I don't live in time Kapis. Smile

Blackbird, pieces of the puzzle are put together for me too! And not only that, I realize that something did happen around the year 2000, give or take a few years or ten. And it did something to our consciousness. And it effected us in different ways.
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The Lore of the Fixed Stars

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Great program here. I love the constellation art.

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"Egyptian" Anhk construction located in mexico
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