David Icke - Freemason

Really, maybe Zagami was under some kind of influence. When I said energy, I meant he was bursting with something.

No compriendo tgII, the Lord Syndicate on the show, was a techie guy, not an aristocrat. He said that Halliburton and BP Shell? were fighting over Deepwater Horizon because it was in a prime spot and whatever other maniacal reasons. So the Halliburton people blew it up, so the explosion was man made.

All I know is that there will be no more fish, probably not much of anything anymore by the time they are finished doing their thing.
And then the Earth will do some changes......the last days....

I didn't listen to it, all I read was 'Lord Syndicate' and left it at that.

Haliburton didn't blow up the Deep Water Horizon. Although it was
sabotaged, Halliburton would hardly compromise itself like that, besides,
it had to do with 'carbon offsets' if you know what that is and how
carbon emission reductions are being brought in. They are doing it
through destroying the capitalist system, better than Marxism really,
they are profiting from the destruction off the insurance.

Remember the chemical plant explosion if Bhopal, India back in the
eighties, that was the same technique they used. In fact, if you look
at disasters of enormous size you can see this 'carbon offset' technique
being applied all over the place including 9/11.

'carbon offsets'

Yes, and I'm beyond mad as hell. You don't know how many times I had to change my consciousness. And transcend in this false and deranged reality. People are going to have to just STOP what they are doing, stop being complacent sheep, STOP being afraid to die.
The last straw. How dare anyone interfere with a person's freewill at all.

https://www.youtube.com/user/EARTHPEOPLES#p/u/37/L_EnZ-3OOjQ
https://www.youtube.com/user/EARTHPEOPLES#p/u/72/6Op9WP2If_o
https://www.youtube.com/user/EARTHPEOPLES

I remember the long conversations about Zagami on the old board. Wonder what happened to that cat. I payed a lot of attention to his interviews, and was pretty fascinated about how much he knew about the P2 Lodge of Freemasonry, and his "alleged" relation to aristocratic families from Italy and Scotland.

His story is almost too bizarre to even consider. He's probably either the real deal, total fraud, or a lunatic, maybe all three.

I have quite reliable confirmation that much of Zagami's Masonic involvements and bloodlines are legit as he stated.
But after a year or so being on the scene, he began to become quite erratic in his words and actions.
He isn't stable, in my opinion.
But I would still listen to what he has to say and leave some room for its consideration.

Funny how this thread morphed from David Icke being an alleged "freemason" to Stewart Swerdlow, and the into Leo Zagami. We really need several threads that hit each base of all previously mentioned subjects...

I think that happened because it became quite obvious early on that the Icke/freemason thingy was trash.
Just like the Tsarion is a Rosicrucian and Ralph Ellis running a synagogue for ZOG.
I found the Icke, son of a Rockefeller photo comparison, to have much more intrigue.

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New interview with Graham Hancock. David Wilcock interviews him here. This is actually a really good interview. Hancock speaks about how he originally got into alternative history, and speaks in depth about some of the subjects he's covered.

One of my favorite books is The Coming Global Superstorm by Art Bell. It's the book that the movie The Day After Tomorrow was based on. Hollywood aside, the book is a compilation of research and theories as to the earth's weather patterns, giving an alternative answer to the global warming dilemma. In the book, it is hypothesized that there was an advanced human civilization before us, one that was wiped out by a 'superstorm.' This explains ancient architecture that seems basically, impossible. I think, though, that if you combine that thought approach with the above video that talks about the human race's genetic variation, maybe some of them survived? Add in evolution, and extra terrestrial visitation..It would make sense.

Anyway, that's what I thought of when I watched that video.

-Haley

Damn...I keep trying to lay low and people like you just keep finding me.

People like me?

Hi Haley, good to see you here! There is so much to check out and read and contemplate. I recall you mentioning Art Bell , but I've not looked into his writings or works.

Thanks for the Hancock interview flames, am watching it now.

People like me?

Yes, those that have read or heard of advanced peoples of the past.
There are still a few of us around, but we try to lay low.
Yet, I cannot escape the seekers. You have found me out.

Thanks a million for posting that Flames, wouldn't have gotten to it if it wasn't for new member, Haley, hi there , haven't talked to you before?

Hancock is doing subliminals, his work is false. Just kidding! Don't mind if I dissect his great piece of work though. Hope it sinks in.

*******TO RECOGNIZE AND CHOSE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL***************
A gift given to folks a long time ago in a place called Eden.

By eating the forbidden fruit, Lucifer promised: "Your eyes will be open and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." (Genesis 3:5)

This means that man will define what is good and evil.

God is Good. When man makes himself God, good becomes whatever the most powerful man or group wants. Good becomes evil and evil becomes good. This is happening today.

Judeo Masonic culture hasn't been all-bad. It has allowed us to accept our sexual desires without feeling guilty and given us the freedom to find God again on our own terms. However these benefits are temporary enticements. The ultimate aim is to divorce us from God and enslave us to our sexual and material lusts, i.e. to arrest our development.

Like a scientist who begins with a hypothesis, I am offering this as a paradigm. You must decide if it helps to explain the world. Obviously I am just scratching the surface, and welcome guidance from people who are better informed than I.

But I have no doubt that mankind is being subverted by its political and cultural leaders, beholden to international bankers and their allies, who are often practising Luciferians. They use Judaism (incl. Zionism) and Freemasonry as instruments of organization and control. Obviously the majority of Jews and Freemasons are unaware or do not believe this.

Modern culture perpetuates Lucifer's rebellion. It makes a God of man. Man defines everything including goodness and truth. As result, we are in a spiritual prison cut off from God and oppressed by relentless reminders of our stunted development.

I'm afraid spiritual and psychological enslavement is but a prelude to a political and economic one.

-Makow

*******Death is not the end but the beginning******

Wait! Don't go jump of that bridge!
In part 4, Hancock talks of consciousness and mind. Says it's separate, consciousness is still alive while the brain, mind dies. Consciousness is free of the mind trap realm. It is one reality and makes it a great mystery to science.

and last but not least********those Cavemen******
Who the heck were they really!!!
Consciousness entered the mind of those cavemen (aka homo sapiens) 40, 000 years ago, and bygod we got cave art. They may have been exposed to psychedelic plants or other methods where they were able to communicate with Beings, who then brought us civilization and taught those darn cavemen!
Hancock goes on.....What phenomena are dealing with? Physical and psychic. We are dealing with interdimensional contact. Our brains most of the time are tuned into channel normal, the everyday world, and needs to focus on the physical or survival. And deals with the law of physics so our attention is finely tuned into physical life. But with the plants and altered states, music, dancing , meditation one reaches a wavelength then a wider reality is accessible. It is a universal phenemona.

*****A message****
The Amazonian Shamans feel that it is a matter of paramount importance that the visionary realm that ayahuasca opens up should be made into the western world. Technology is severed from the spirit, if we don't reconnect there, times will be more difficult ahead. And there could be a golden age.
Reunite the fragmented parts of our human nature, bring back connection to other realms, move back to a positive direction.

Haley? Nice to make your acquaintance. Always nice to see
more people jumping into this forum - a continuation of the
MTSAR Board after being expelled in mass.

• Yes, those that have read or heard of advanced peoples of the past.
  There are still a few of us around, but we try to lay low.
  Yet, I cannot escape the seekers. You have found me out.

I think Flames and I are going to hopefully get into a discussion
about something related to this concerning Joesph Farrell's most
recent interview. Joseph Farrell mentioned this ancient past where
all civilizations sprang from.

Flames, where are you? The mysterious David Li astounded
me after hearing of him?

Here I am. By the way, welcome aboard, Haley. Hope you stick around, and please continue to share your thoughts.

The mysterious David Li astounded
me after hearing of him?

Yes. Li created what is known as a "Guassian copula function", a mathematical equation he created that made a big impact on the way Wall street dealt with complex risks to be modeled "with more ease and accuracy than ever before."

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/17-03/wp_quant?currentPage=all

Basically, he is a criminal, or an "economic terrorist", with ties to Chinese secret societies, who are aware of how astrology and economic cycles are inevitably linked. Babylon's Banksters goes into a lot of depth about Li, and his background.

Li worked for the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce, and had something to do with the credit default swap problem. This "Li" clan had another member whose name was Li Kai-Shing, who owned stock in that Canadian bank.

The Li Clan are one of the "principal families responsible in forming The Triads", a notorious Chinese secret society. They are like a cross between Freemasonry and the Mafia, something along the line of P2 Freemasonry - except bigger, a membership of close to two million. They are also involved with Chinese occultism, assassinations, blackmailing, and all kinds of dirty things.

A Li family member created the Tang Dynasty (618-906 A.D.), and a Li was an Emperor. Emperor Li Zhuanxu, who reigned before 2000 b.c.

Farrell goes into depth about the Li Clan, and how they have basically signaled through their economic manipulation, through Li's mathematical/financial equation that China will not go along with the Anglo-American corporate New World Order agenda.

Information provided from Pages 28-30 of Babylon's Banksters by Joseph Farrell. I paraphrased a bit, because it would literally take me forever to begin to do this topic total justice.

Modeling complex risks all based on a mathematical formula,
David Li, or who ever sent him calculated precisely what could
be expected from Wall Street: out of control greed. Just
imagine that formula called a Gaussian copula (copulation;
means it takes two to tandem baby!) formula when applied
scientifically to investments where mortgages were bundled
with other complex financial products, like credit default swaps
and derivatives, and sold as investments?

When things go tits up, and they did, Americans found them-
selves literally economically raped and out of a house.

Whether he is a criminal or an economic terrorist is hard to tell at
this point; in the short term it brought down Wall Street, perhaps
some good will come out of this though, like the Chinese stepping
in and bringing and end to the Anglo-American financial terror. I
mean, how else are you suppose to fight terror?

The thing that is tricky in understanding in all this is that there are
elements within America selling out to the Chinese. Case in point:
Clinton sent General John Shalikashvili to China and essentially gave
the Chinese America technology.

And the fact that David Li, who was at the Canadian Imperial Bank
of Commerce, is a Rothschild controlled bank with a branch in London.
Did Rothschild interests and the Li clan interests formulate this
economic hit on America and then transfer that wealth back to London
to be 'invested' in China where Rothschild's have banking interests?

If Farrell is correct, this would go a long way in explaining how China
will become the next world empire thus exploiting its technological
capacity and brain power to use the world's resources in developing
what Joseph Farrell explained in the interview. Go listen to find out,
either that or buy his book to find out.

Hint: One successive world empire after another to achieve this goal.

In the mean time, while watching all this unfold, you guys want to
get rich? Invest in Kentucky Fried Chicken; expected to BOOM
over the next ten years with massive unparalleled growth in China.

And far from being dismissed, as a competent risk assessor by the Chinese, he returns to China to a post doing precisely what his formula was designed to do" assess risk! - Babylon's Banksters page 29

So apparently, the Chinese didn't seem to think his formula was so bad, considering he ended up working for the Chinese government doing the same thing. It's interesting that China actually creates their own money, rather than borrowing in from private bankers. Huh. Bankers again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Bank_of_China

I found it fascinating when he mentioned a "private mercenary force" who guarded the Egyptian slaves who were mining the Bisharee gold mines. It is this group that appears to be the first globalist bankers, way before the Templars were even around.

Their tactics never seem to change, do they? They literally want to enslave us.

Li returns to China to do 'risk assessment' for the Chinese.
Risk of what? Who is the assessment for?

The Chinese government controls the printing of money, not the
bank. Also, it should be pointed out David Li from the Li clan traces
his decedents back to the emperor who invented 'flying money'
(paper money).

This is where the 'west' picked this nasty habit [printing money] up
from after they monopolized gold. The Jesuits brought it back first
to France and from there it spread. A very long historical learning
curve here; those with the secrets pitted against those without the
secrets.

Think what the comparison is to Hitler's Germany where the cult
behind Hitler printed its own debt free money; within three years
Germany was completely in control of its resources and industrial
output unhindered by interest bearing debt? Will China repeat this?

Flames, want to see some real synergy here, at least as far as
the Templars are concerned? After reading much of this, which I'll
put a link up for, I can understand it, yet, am completely befuddled
by it; is this what Joesph Farrell mentioned once, someone with a
historical understanding of the esoteric who has read deeply into
the significance of all this? Me think so, and you will to once you
bury yourself in all this and compare it to what Joseph has been
saying.

Unlike Bono, I hope the Templars found what they were looking
for? Once again, me thinks they have.

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Keep reading this and you will soon see the correlations; be
sure to continue at the links provided in the posts:

• “…112358 a Golden Beautiful Simple Elegant Magical Theory of Everything”
  
  ‘KEY 528′ Barack Obama & the Saxon hero Widukind
  
  ’11258′ plus 69 = KEYSTONE = Royal Arch
  
  “…INCEPTION’ the SEED PATTERN and the SWASTIKA”

Flames, I am honestly for the first time starting to
think 'uncorrupted' DNA - or only partially marginalized - is
the key to understanding this?

Flames, after reading some of this and adding it to what you
already know from Joseph Farrell, can you see the amazing
similarities; especially how the bankers have set up and used
these templates to follow this pattern we are profane to since
1158?

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So you see, there are PhD's in physics working in banks then,
and what's more, David Li's Gaussian copula formula is a
mathematical formula based on sklar (scalar).

Just astounding.

I just realized, I should probably cite a few more paragraphs following that last post, because it didn't really make sense in such a short form. So I'll add more:

While the table of comparisons and decodings might at first glance seem highly implausible if not downright bizarre, Meyl minces no words in the explanatory text accompanying this table.

It should be proven that already in antiquity radio engineering based on scalar waves has been used. The proof starts with a thesis.

The temples in antiquity were all short wave broadcasting stations. And energy from the field served as an energy source, so e.g. the earth radiation in the case of temples of terrestrial gods. In the case of the solar god the radiation of the Sun was used, whereas for the temples, which were dedicated to the planetary gods, the neutrino radiation arriving from the planets served as an energy source.

Meyl's program, in other words, is a total one. In terms of the context of the hypothetical scenario with which we opened this book in chapter one, however, it is also an intriguing one, for given the close association of the ancient bullion brokers with the temples, they, like their modern counterparts, would have need of a vast communications available to the common masses. So Meyl's thesis, from one standpoint, fits the needs of the situation perfectly.

It is, however, when Meyl turns to a consideration of the sacred geometry in those temples that his thesis takes on its breathtaking significance. In order to buttress his thesis, Meyl reproduces the diagrams of the floor plans, and in some cases, side views and cutaways, of several ancient temples. We do so here in order to illustrate his thesis, and to set his remarks and commentary into the proper context. Meyl first reproduces the floor plan and front view of the Temple of Zeus in Olympia, showing its use of the Golden Ratio, or Phi = 0.61818... Babylon's Banksters - Joseph Farrell page 253-254

I obviously can't quote the diagrams. But I can tell you after viewing the Apollo Temple at Corinth, Temple of Venus, The Pantheon in Rome, The Floor Plan of the Temple in the Palace of Emperor Diocletian, Temple of Minerva, they look a lot like modern circuit schematics used by engineers.

I'm beginning to feel like the Matrix veils are becoming more transparent.

What an interesting theory

I obviously can't quote the diagrams. But I can tell you after viewing the Apollo Temple at Corinth, Temple of Venus,

Is it possible to upload one of these diagrams to view ?

Thank you for the friendly welcome everyone! I look forward to learning a lot on this forum..I don't know a whole lot about all of these things, but I'm willing to learn. So anyway, I'll try my best to contribute