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Post  seraphim on Thu 11 Feb 2010, 04:53

From mystery Bablyon One. Sounds like Cooper does not like the mystery school and is a believer of Christianity, where he got a lot of his information from. That doesn't mean he is bad or I don't like him. Maybe why folks believe the illuminati did him in.

It's amazing how much he sounds like Art Bell, the watered down version of Cooper, who was selected to host a very popular radio program called the Art Bell Show. So why would the illuminati bring him back and not only
that but now, they are bringing things out beyond what Cooper said. who knows what the scheme was.
The rulers want us to know that they rule and to fear them and why they are talking about thereselves, so they had to go public and Cooper was a tool. Unknowing or knowing?

From Cooper's talk.....my comments in parenthesis....

According to mystery religion, man is a product of evolution. Or ape evolved into man because it was difficult to survive and had to come up with ways to keep alive. Made tools, fire etc. (like today's psychopaths?, but that doesn't mean they will evolve into a new advanced species! I thought the mystery schools and original Christianity believed in a God or alien creating humans?)
Natural Selection caused the doubling of the brain caused by survival of the fittest.
(But the advanced civilizations were given their technology, maybe it was the man who was still the slave who built and wellas the miners. Was all those advanced things really for man or his benefit, and why was it taken away. What was the purpose of trying to advance the man animal, when they were meant to be slaves.)

The stupid who live today will die early in Cooper's belief. (So I assume he believes in Darwin)


Man's first enemy was darkness, so heaven's greatest gift to the world was or is the Sun. So from that we can unravel the most ancient and successful religion on the earth. And it remains hidden from us.
Ancient people didn't believe the Sun was the God, but was unseen Creator. God's son was the light of the world, the Sun. And that became the appropriate symbol of divine benevolence, righteousness and truth.
The God of the bible was a consuming fire in heaven. All life was gone without the sun, it was man's savior. The Sun must give us energy or life for us to live.
Everlasting life was given to the Creator's Son so we may have life everlasting on earth.

All evil was the work of darkness, ruled over by the prince of darkness. So the Sun was the prince of peace. So light was good and dark was bad and the priests of the ancient religions always followed the light, always looked toward the East, considered themselves to be illumined.
All should give thanks for sending his Sun and giving us Solace (SUN).

There are two cosmic brothers, one bad, one good.
In Egypt 3000 years before christianity, the infant or saviors name was Horus, the early morning Sun, the dove, bringer of peace, the hawk, the punishment for the enemies of god. Still people use those terms today, these powerful hidden symbols.
Horus has risen, hallelujah, at day break the child is born again, at the Horizon. (A vampire is the complete opposite of this btw)
His life was divided into the 12 signs of the zodiac.

Some mystery sects and in babylon believed Jesus and Satan were brothers represented by gemini or may have been the same entity.

Set or Tifin?, was the dark brother, at sunset he took over. God's son was killed by Set at Sunset.
God's son can be depended to return on a cloud and every eye will see him. The very act of opposing the light or killing the truth is at the point or happens in one's own mind. When confronted with harsh realities we put such truths to death in our mind. So the son's god of truth is put to death at the space of the skull in the mind and always accompanied by regret of the past, and fear of the future.

God's son goes to his death with his corona or crown of thorns. All known cultures had a triune god, the first trinity was the three stages of the life of the Sun.
The seasons and keeping of time (the cross of the zodiac wit ha circle on it), this is the life of God's Sun.

The sun stops moving for three days, in the southern constellation known as the southern cross, so the savior dies for three days. And the sun stops it's movement in the sky. On Dec. 25 the sun goes back to the northern hemisphere and is born again and christians celebrate Christmas.

The Sun plus the 12 (disciples) equals 13. The number 12 is used alot in the bible, 13 was taken out to persecute mystery schools.

(He calls Christ, our Christ.)

The emergence of the mystery religion and ufo movement started when pleiadians talked? to billy Meier in switzerland, of which Cooper believes we are being decieved.

We cannot fight against these manipulators unless we know who they are Cooper said! (Assuming the new age movement and the mystery religions????)


Entering Aquarius or age of illumined man or 666.

The Jews were held captive in Babylon and knew of the ancient religion.

The mystery schools say We belong to one another, are part of gods creation, a fraternity of and should gather in the morning to pray, to the rising Sun. Of which the Christians say that too.

The Chief cornerstone or peak of a pyramid is God's son. The Topmost was added by the Jews. It is the reference to a future messiah, an important stone. (similar to the Hopis) It needs to be at the apex of the pyrimid to be significant, it is the missing capstone.

In mystery religion, the peak of the pyramid is the illumined man or master mason, the eye of horus or spy, or son of god.
God's son tends to the people's needs with the two fishes, or pisces so we have had for 2000 years god's son ruling.

According to astrology sometime after 2010 (catch that date he said) the Sun will enter the new sign or kingdom. This next sign will be the house or sign of Aquarius.
The man with the water pitcher. The father's house equals heavenly abode, and are many houses in the bible or 12 according to mystery religion of babylon.

what do the end times or last days mean according to the scriptures is aeon, age or end of the age. so we are living in the last days of the old age of pisces soon god's son will come again into his kingdom, or Aquarius. The new age according to mystery of schools, is the perversion of christianity, and this is the theme of the bible the god of son and the new age of aquarius.

Cooper said many people practice the mystery schools in secret he said they hate Christians, because they believe Christianity is a perversion of their religion and thus is their enemy.

(God bless you all he said).
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Thu 11 Feb 2010, 11:19

According to mystery religion, man is a product of evolution. Or ape evolved into man because it was difficult to survive and had to come up with ways to keep alive. Made tools, fire etc. (like today's psychopaths?, but that doesn't mean they will evolve into a new advanced species! I thought the mystery schools and original Christianity believed in a God or alien creating humans?)
Natural Selection caused the doubling of the brain caused by survival of the fittest.
(But the advanced civilizations were given their technology, maybe it was the man who was still the slave who built and wellas the miners. Was all those advanced things really for man or his benefit, and why was it taken away. What was the purpose of trying to advance the man animal, when they were meant to be slaves.)

My comments...

Regarding evolution. If you examine the development of a human from a zygote to a fetus you will notice that it evolves from something fish-like, then to something amphibian-like, then to a mammal. The fetus at one particular stage of development has a tail, gill slits and hands/feet that resemble something amphibious. Why? If man was created by God as a man in the first instance...then a fetus would not have to go through a mini-evolution in the womb of its mother but would develop straight into a mammalian form with no intermediary forms being necessary nor a part of its "created" make-up. But the genes surely prove that macro-evolution happened by the example of man's micro-evolution in the womb of the mother. The only options left are that evolution is contained in the story of creation, or evolution is the only explanation with no creation from the divine. The simple act of observation shows evolution...the burden lies on creationists to explain their invisible world and entities impacting upon man...not the other way around.

Also, evolution does not state that man evolved from apes, but theorizes that ape/primates and man may have evolved from a common ancestor on a branch of an evolutionary tree. The genetics of man to all the animals is almost exactly the same, with just a minute change of a minute amount of genetic material you get all the different expression of life on earth. And evolution does not suppose that man will evolve into a new advanced species, if anything, it shows that it will reach a pinnacle and dominate for a time and then die out like all things do...like the dinosaurs. Man's ultimate expression of his physical evolution is his present state of erectness, the resulting increased capacity of his ribcage and increased oxygen intake is what has allowed his brain to double in size. And it is much easier to consider with survival of the fittest that there would naturally be slaves in society and that some slaves, if treated fairly, would find contentment in the service of others...should it be an egalitarian and mutually beneficial form of slavery. It isn't politically correct, but evolutionarily correct. One could say that man is about as evolved as he can get on a physical level...in fact, it now seems he is devolving when you consider the aberrant posture and physical degeneration of man's health since the beginning of the industrial revolution and reliance of technology. With industry and technology man has separated from nature and has, as a result, devolved into something less vital and robust. Even if we live longer due to modernization it does not mean that man's internal milieu, physical make-up and offspring are actually more robust than those that did not rely upon modernization. Slaves for food production is more evolutionarily correct than worker-wage-slaves of the modern day pumping out environment and self-killing technologies. And religion evolved to the state of monotheism is now leading man to a state of devolving as well. But that is another commentary.

Man's first enemy was darkness, so heaven's greatest gift to the world was or is the Sun. So from that we can unravel the most ancient and successful religion on the earth. And it remains hidden from us.
Ancient people didn't believe the Sun was the God, but was unseen Creator. God's son was the light of the world, the Sun. And that became the appropriate symbol of divine benevolence, righteousness and truth.
The God of the bible was a consuming fire in heaven. All life was gone without the sun, it was man's savior. The Sun must give us energy or life for us to live.
Everlasting life was given to the Creator's Son so we may have life everlasting on earth.

All evil was the work of darkness, ruled over by the prince of darkness. So the Sun was the prince of peace. So light was good and dark was bad and the priests of the ancient religions always followed the light, always looked toward the East, considered themselves to be illumined.
All should give thanks for sending his Sun and giving us Solace (SUN).

I would disagree and say man's first observable enemy was death. And out of attempting an understanding of death, man created the world of the invisible which led to the precursors and then to the actual religions of the day...monotheism included. So the Sun is not the most ancient religion. The religion of the invisible and of the soul/spirit is the most ancient. From their vitalism, animism and totemism came about. From there the personfication of the forces of nature from these three precursors turned into anthropomorphic gods which led to a pantheon and mutiple gods having the qualities and resembling human beings. Which eventually then led to Akhenaton in the eighteenth dynasty of egypt as being the first to impost a mono-theistic sun worship cult and outlawing all of its precursors or polytheistic religions. And without this cult of the Sun and its persecutions of precursors as competitors...Judaism, Christianity and Islam would not exist today. For they are the present expression of religion's evolution. And they don't like competitors...as the violence they inflict upon the profane are some of the greatest atrocities to ever visit humankind.

The emergence of the mystery religion and ufo movement started when pleiadians talked? to billy Meier in switzerland, of which Cooper believes we are being decieved.

We cannot fight against these manipulators unless we know who they are Cooper said! (Assuming the new age movement and the mystery religions????)

And I would state that the new age belief in UFOs is no different than the monotheistic religions' beliefs in the invisible realms filled with demons, angels, demi-gods and gods. If one is to be objective in their observations regarding these two very similar aspects of these two schools of thought.

The mystery schools say We belong to one another, are part of gods creation, a fraternity of and should gather in the morning to pray, to the rising Sun. Of which the Christians say that too.

Actually is also the practices of the mono-theistic religions that state a socializing agenda of belongingness.
It was magic that, aside from also being a social ritual, was more supportive of a ritual for an individual to maintain their individuality...moreso than monotheism could ever suggest.

Cooper said many people practice the mystery schools in secret he said they hate Christians, because they believe Christianity is a perversion of their religion and thus is their enemy.

Speaking for a Christian institution which has never spread its hate and violence upon others after having labeled them a pagan or heathen?
Those who practice the precursors of mono-theism will always be the enemy of Christianity by declaration of Christianity itself, not the other way around. Those who work with the forces of nature and ancestor spirits will always be at odds with Christian thought because it is Christian thought that promotes the consensus of borg belief and worship, while the precursors can be used by and to empower the individual without such an edifice of control.

Unfortunately, I don't always agree with Mr. Cooper, who in his own book stated he saw, interacted and engaged in hand-to-hand combat with actual aliens working with the government in underground facilities.
So, on top of that story, Cooper also wants me to believe in his Christian invisible realm filled with angelic and godly personalities.
Who here is actually promoting a New Age agenda? Him or the ancients he attempts to condemn?
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Fri 12 Feb 2010, 10:37

Not necessarily for it does not breathe in amniotic fluid. All the oxygen and nutrients it ever needs is supplied through the umbilicus.
And with the umbilicus, the amphibious structures would not be needed at all.

So why does a fetus who was created by God in God's image...and with no belief in the theory of evolution...go through a mini-evolution during fetal development in a liquid environment that does not require amphibious structures because all is provided through the umbilicus?
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Regarding evolution. If you examine the development of a human from a zygote to a fetus you will notice that it evolves from something fish-like, then to something amphibian-like, then to a mammal. The fetus at one particular stage of development has a tail, gill slits and hands/feet that resemble something amphibious. Why? If man was created by God as a man in the first instance...then a fetus would not have to go through a mini-evolution in the womb of its mother but would develop straight into a mammalian form with no intermediary forms being necessary nor a part of its "created" make-up. But the genes surely prove that macro-evolution happened by the example of man's micro-evolution in the womb of the mother. The only options left are that evolution is contained in the story of creation, or evolution is the only explanation with no creation from the divine. The simple act of observation shows evolution...the burden lies on creationists to explain their invisible world and entities impacting upon man...not the other way around.
It's amazing that evolution happens right in the womb! Man has animal stock in them.
Perhaps because the original stock of animals came from this earth. Actually all life may have been brought here, but the original stock of humans was from these ancient primates, of which the scientists hint that reptiles turned eventually into mammalians, so they kept some of their blueprint. Who knows what other life being was mixed with the humans, besides the primate.
So it does prove that macroevolution happens but real evolvement is what is being manipulated IMO. Nature does support life and growth and you have the macro and micro and you see things change but that's still not evolvement, nor does speciation occur unless outside forces that have intelligence mess with the genes or seeds.
Man's ultimate expression of his physical evolution is his present state of erectness, the resulting increased capacity of his ribcage and increased oxygen intake is what has allowed his brain to double in size.
But there is something more than just this oxygen making the brain grow. Being vertical had to occur first so that a man's consciousness could take place. There is a saying that trees are intelligent because they are upright. And then there is the tree of life!
I agree man is devolving because of what's happening outside.

And I would state that the new age belief in UFOs is no different than the monotheistic religions' beliefs in the invisible realms filled with demons, angels, demi-gods and gods. If one is to be objective in their observations regarding these two very similar aspects of these two schools of thought.
UFO's do exist, and I believe there are different kinds and that have existed for so long, they are talked about in so many cultures of the past, (and so many people see them, it's just not official or can't be accepted, because the one's in control have the say so) thousands of years before the new age and monotheistic god setup (depending on the technology of course, it comes and goes and is hidden) the question is who is behind it. But so many new age groups have confused people and like I said before that people are filled with fear about aliens, like the monotheistic god is, so that if aliens do arrive people will be so scared they will obey with no questions asked. It's got so bad that people fight each other over what is real or not, and they have no clue of the real reality and that is they are slaves.
Any metaphysical encounter a person has and they are considered mentally ill and made fun of and then called new age. Not all new age is a lie. They always have to mix in a few truths with the lies to get people hooked.
Because of my experiences, I do believe in aliens, and I'm not a mental or new age nutter. But one has to be one of those if they believe differently and then a person has to be saved by the monotheistic god by baptizim or something else, can you believe this #@** up reality in place for us!
Those who practice the precursors of mono-theism will always be the enemy of Christianity by declaration of Christianity itself, not the other way around. Those who work with the forces of nature and ancestor spirits will always be at odds with Christian thought because it is Christian thought that promotes the consensus of borg belief and worship, while the precursors can be used by and to empower the individual without such an edifice of control.
I am so tired of these rulers!
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But one has to be one of those if they believe differently and then a person has to be saved by the monotheistic god by baptizim or something else, can you believe this #@** up reality in place for us!
Yes...at times it is even more difficult for me to wrap my head around certain ritual aspects of religion.
I choose to look at how it may influence...energetically and that being the expression of the soul.
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Post  seraphim on Sun 14 Feb 2010, 00:19

So why does a fetus who was created by God in God's image...and with no belief in the theory of evolution...go through a mini-evolution during fetal development in a liquid environment that does not require amphibious structures because all is provided through the umbilicus?

That wasn't a professional explanation at all. Guess I'll have to explain philosophically then. What would and what does Nature (the God force, a Creator, Goddess Earth that helps keep things alive in a such a perfect way) do?

Nature on this Earth, keeps all that is beneficial for one to stay alive. It does not delete.

So why would another kind of Creator not see this wisdom too and so....copy the God force. And not only do that but create it's own versions of which the God force seemed to do only one time (why nothing has speciated, except for when the genetic manipulations occured) and also from where we get the base stock for everything.
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