Michael Tsarion Revisited

about where i am right now on this tsarion issue, as of right now im compiling info. i dont really want to discredit tsarion though or say his research isnt helpful, my goal was never to offend anyones growth, but to simply show you how he uses his work (which is mostly valid) to hide other areas of inquiry, because he works for the papacy.

The Growing Nonsense About Wilhelm Reich and Orgone Energy on Global Internet.

James DeMeo, Ph.D.

Over the last decade there has been a slow and steady growth of misinformation and distortion about Wilhelm Reich's work, found on the websites of people promoting things such as the Montauk Project or "Trance Channeling" the dead Reich from the grave, to milder mixtures of his ideas with mystical religious ideas. Perhaps the most bizarre and widespread distortions are found in the promotional materials for people selling products such as "chembusters", "holy hand grenades", "orgonite", "orgone generators", "orgone converters", "orgone zappers", "orgone pyramids" and a host of similar things. Notably, they all claim (without evidence) to have made great "advancements", going "beyond Reich", in a manner which makes a mockery of Reich's original solid and authentic natural-scientific findings.

There are "orgone crystal power accumulators" (bearing no resemblance whatsoever to Reich's original orgone accumulator), "orgone pendants" and "pendant-beamers" (again, no connections to Reich), "orgone manifestors", "orgone chalice transmuters", "tachyon orgone Reiki massage throw blankets", "therapeutic orgone wealth prosperity and money pillows", "orgone generators [for] love and sex" or for "weight loss" or "...career, business and prosperity", and "radionics rife orgone tesla HHG zappers", all sold with Reich's name and terms stuck to them like so much glitter sprinkled on glue. Virtually nothing in their materials or construction resembles Wilhelm Reich's original or authentic descriptions of orgone energy-accumulating structures.

Whatever claims these people make to scientific evidence must rely upon research conducted by Reich or the professional scientists who have undertaken controlled experiments with the "plain" orgone accumulator in laboratories, and for which positive results have been obtained, including in universities under double-blind conditions -- see the on-line Bibliography on Orgonomy. In short, the internet "orgone gadget" sellers they have no defendable scientific evidence for any of their "additions" to the "old Reich", whom they claim to have advanced "far beyond".

Upon digging deeper, on their websites and e-groups one finds the people hawking this stuff also making allusions to demons in other dimensions, to large government conspiracies such as "chemtrails", and from there to "shape-shifting reptilian space aliens" who have "substituted themselves into military and key government and UN positions", "taking over the bodies of aircraft pilots and ground crews, and well-known politicians", with the goal to poison their own countrymen and families with toxic chemicals secretly sprayed from the air. They make other references to "ascended masters" and such, and many are factually refugees from religious cults. The devices are promoted for "self defense" against the same demons and space-aliens. The "HHG" term means, for example, "Holy Hand Grenade", and supposedly acts like a regular hand-grenade bomb in some nether-worldly dimension inhabited by demons -- putting one of these on your desk is said to drive away the demons." Some advocates of this madness are refugees from the old mystic Saint Germain "I AM" cult, out of Mt. Shasta, while others more generally espouse "magik" terms which even a dedicated alchemist would be embarrassed to associate with. Reich's name, and his term "orgone", "cloudbuster" and similar terms as developed with specific meanings and used in authentic natural-scientific research are included in their on-line discussions and products they sell, sometimes quite openly to "Obtain Money! Power! Sex! and Magik!", as if there were some direct and honest relationship to Reich, which there most certainly is not.

Taken together, the individuals promoting these distortions drag Reich's good name and work down into a dirty mystical swamp, and little recognizable remains of his authentic research findings, on orgone energy or otherwise. For those struggling to get a clear picture of Reich's findings, these efforts have the result of dramatically muddying of the waters. It is a toss-up to know which is more damaging to Reich's name and work -- the outrageous falsifiers of the CSICOP "professional skeptic" variety, who engage in deliberate distortions as a means to ridicule the man and his work (see for example my article here: http://www.orgonelab.org/gardner.htm), or the "madhouse" internet distorters, whose embrace of Reich provides an equally hideous misportrayal.

At some point in the future, I may write up a more complete disclosure, providing names and websites of the worst offenders, but a simple internet or eBay search on the terms "Wilhelm Reich" or "orgone" will turn up quite a few of them, usually at the "top listings" and also on quite a few of the internet "adwords" advertisements hawking their stuff. A Google search of "orgone" turns up a half-million webpages, with perhaps only 1 out of 100 providing authentic information. Ebay in particular is littered with products abusing the term "orgone", and which have no relationship whatsoever to Reich's discoveries. In a recent survey I made at the time of this writing, eBay was selling 236 items with "orgone" in the title (or 375 in the title and descriptions) -- out of this number a total of Three (3), or around 1%, used the word with accuracy, roughly paralleling the situation on the larger internet search engines.

As a help, the OBRL website includes a special Resource Guide which provides the names and weblinks of most authentic Reich/Orgonomy institutes and organizations, and the very few manufacturers of authentic orgone energy accumulators. Certainly there may be some others we have missed who are not included, but it is a reasonably comprehensive and useful guide for the beginner to consult: http://www.orgonelab.org/resources.htm

James DeMeo, Ph.D.
Director, OBRL
April 2007

This guy is an automatic moron for slagging off chemtrails as nonsense. Eric Hufschmid did this in an article about a month ago. The Discovery Channel and the History Channel have confirmed that chemtrails and HAARP exist and are used as part of weather warfare. I remember in the Discovery Channel excerpt, a man collected rainwater from a heavily sprayed area and found much more aluminum concentrated in the water than there should be naturally occuring aluminum in the atmosphere. But then again, Eric was always part of the Jew bashing crowd run by the Order on behalf of Rupert Murdoch. Eric's half sister married Rupert's son. I think we have a topic on this in AGENTS. Murdoch is only a half Jew, but ultimately a Roman Catholic.

Yes James Demeo is an agent and has shown this many times over many years now

Upon digging deeper, on their websites and e-groups one finds the people hawking this stuff also making allusions to demons in other dimensions, to large government conspiracies such as "chemtrails", and from there to "shape-shifting reptilian space aliens" who have "substituted themselves into military and key government and UN positions", "taking over the bodies of aircraft pilots and ground crews, and well-known politicians", with the goal to poison their own countrymen and families with toxic chemicals secretly sprayed from the air

Knee-deep in stuff doesnt mean i am confused or even that i will never read a tsarion book again. Just means i do research and I inquire. sometimes things strike you, sometimes you ask people for answers.

His behavior is very strange. Check the Tsarion thread in Agents. Mister Lister an old board member exposed Tsarion as a liar who said, "Craig attacked me when I simply asked if he could give a source. All he had to say was I can't reveal the person telling me about these papal bloodlines and that would have been fine." But that is clearly not what happened. Tsarion jumped down Oxley's throat RIGHT AFTER CRAIG'S FIRST POST on Tsarion's board and called his info on the Breakspears bullshit without good reason. If Tsarion knows Rome is so bad, then he shouldn't have tried to act like a protection agent by saying this bloodline means nothing - which he did - with the justification that, 'not everyone named Clinton was blown in the oval office, therefore not evey pope from this bloodline is bad.' That's very suspicious of him to do.

I also have a contact who is very into the esoteric and reading masonic rosicrucian books that he can get his hands on. He is also into Tarot and told me there are different kinds of Tarot that kind put you in touch with good or bad spirits when you do certain rituals. he told me Tsarion promotes Crowley and a certain deck that Crowley used which opens you up to malevolent forces. I believe him. Thus, it is clear Tsarion is pimping Crowley bullshit.

As for the Rosicrucians, they were like the Masons. Just another group taken over by the Jesuits. I have some books on the early history of the rosicrucians and many were mudered by the jesuits. I highly doubt there is an independent lodge anymore. Especially in the Bay Area where Tsarion is from. California, the place of Hollywood, is notorious for mind control and masonic activity.

Tsarion acted like a complete bitch when Chris White started exposing the 2012 hoax and some of Tsarion's mistaken readings about bible verses. He even tried to start a blog where he wanted people to post Chris White's personal information including an address and family members. You'll see that in the AGENTS thread on him.

What does Tsarion do after people start criticizing him and defending Oxley? He shuts down his fucking board. He's a prima donna with a princess complex. He has an attitude problem. He was just jealous that Oxley has someone telling him about these papal akenaton bloodlines.

You have to realize that someone wants you and everyone to be a slave. That's who to keep an eye on. Doting on who a person is doesn't get one far nor your freedom, you can pretty much tell who they are by what they say. And if they are conspiratory folks just stay away from them. You know they are because they can't get enough of infighting. And they say with so much pompousness that this or that person is an agent or whatever, like Oxley does. A red flag right there when someone starts saying that.

i just want to know why he was there when the way of the his normal behavior is to not engage people directly who make statements or claims, and the fact remains he did go further than to ask for sources, made an analogy to attack the logic of the statement, and then did lie when he said all he did was ask for sources. if he says we do our own homework and we dont have to listen to him, then his coming in to give oxley a hard time isnt neccessary.

It doesnt actually affect my life on research whether tsarion is a coadjutor or not. I dont need absolute proof, however givin time i think i can provide convincing evidence. But this is going to sound bad, but people shouldnt need convincing evidence or absolute proof(like dna evidence) to jump to the other side. They should be looking at all sides and entertaining all ideas. there should be no sides. I am actually not an emissary for jesuit conspiracy, or have any allegiance to oxley. I take whats good from it update my knowledge, when i interprete what i see in the way i did, it enabled me to look beyond. tsarion is an impressive researcher, however i can say thankyou to him and moveon. that is until maybe he writes a new book maybe i will buy it. i dont throw babies out with bathwater. we all know that saying but i think we do this more than we realize.

after iceman made the post on solidic and fluidic personalities, and the person who can do both when the time calls for it, and being able to know which one to use when they actually dont have any information to go by to decide which one is the best choice(intuition), i realized he spoke the most important thing i already knew of unconciously. and i told him hes brilliant and outstanding for wording it like that. i cant really say anything more, the problem is, i so patronizing to remind people who are 20 years older than me how to engage information. but i thought that that was what the tsarion forum members were partly about, that we had some kindof mastery over our egos. its not exactly enjoyable for me to come here and read everybody fighting, knowing that im
possibly pushing my friendships with people (the friends that i have here) to the limit, straining their generosity to be civil with me. but im doing it, and even if i fail, i wont hang my head in shame, i can admit defeat but im not ashamed of how i fight my battles.

its honestly in my heart that when were doing our day to day activities, that everyone is well. i dont think, i hope TG is ran over by a mag rail train cause he made fun of me in a deriding tirade post that couldve hurt somebodies feelings had it not been me.

at the end of the day, i can always learn a lot from everybody here. thats why i accepted the invitation to come here, i like the company i am in. there are a lot of smart people here. but that doesnt mean that things will unfold on a positive note. what everyones idea of a positive note is also different it entirely possible that somebodies idea of a positive note is that i dont return here. i cant do anything about that.

my bringing up MMS, was more or less to show TG that no matter what we think we know in our hearts is true, there is always a paradigm held by others that cannot be broken. the point isnt what its worth,

Yeah I can see your point, schadenfreude is not the kind of humor that one finds funny when being the subject matter of it. However, it's not a bad idea to learn to laugh about oneself and not to take life too serious all the time, because remember...nobody ever got out alive...

too sorry you don't like my kind of humor

Also interesting to note in Irish Origins is that Tsarion lists Theosophy as being a secret society in less than a flattering context.
And a less-than-flattering reference to Alice Bailey of the Theosophical and later New Age Movement.

The research is more important IMO, than the references or opinons of this or that group. I will figure out on my own and graciously take what I can from whatever group that I think will evolve my own Being.

• guess what TGII, if your reading, I told some other forums(non conspirancy, not alternative about anything in any way) about chlorine dioxide and everybody thought i was talking nonsense. 99% of the people told me that because it was called miracle mineral solution that i had to be stupid to pay the hundred i did to get it, i was swindled. but i know you got my back on that one.....so even if i am a moron, im still smarter than 99% of the population right?

..............it makes the confused look to themselves like they know something everyone else doesn't. And they get it by trying to make someone else's work look ridiculous by focusing not on the work itself, but on some minor comparison to their own belief system, not based on fact but on invective they borrowed from someone else just as misled as themselves. It's always the same old story............

dont come and here and refer to some people probably me that im an ant at a picnic, i was invited to this forum i didnt crash a party, but if that invitation is retracted then it can be and will be and ill try to logon one day and the password doesnt work anymore. but just who is anybody to think of themselves as the people at the picnic and the others being ants. thats just more ego centric bullshit proving you might got a shelf of tsarions books but you dont live his philosophy.

thats what i noticed if i was to make an observation its that all of tsarions best followers, save iceman, dont really practise the work on the shadow. egocentric dismissals left and right. i did do my research myself, thank you michael tsarion. i think he would support me, and if he didnt hes a hypocrite. he cant say do the own research but hey if you disagree im going to think youre stupid cause you know im right.

HighNoon wrote:thats what i noticed if i was to make an observation its that all of tsarions best followers,

HighNoon wrote:
but i wont be writing an essay. i dont think i can do it and succeed. i dont lose anything or gain anything to be right or wrong. i still have to eat and sleep everyday and think about what to do with my sex drive. doesnt change my life to be right or wrong, so ill be wrong because i cant prove im right.
and thats not tongue in cheek i cant be right without proving i am, but i dont need to prove i am right for myself. from a pure pragmatic viewpoint. i have nothing to gain even if i could easily convince others im right, because i dont think getting 5 people to see something different is going to feedback into reality and make a difference in my life in where i live. conspiracy really takes up time i could be spending indulging in what life has to offer. if i just go snowboarding, i dont need to worry about chemtrails. i just need to worry if im dressed right and not go out of bounds and when i get tired go inside for a hot chocolate.

it literally takes lifeforce from me to argue whether i win or lose. so conceding now is just better for my health considering i dont believe i have the ability to win either

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