Re: The Russian Thread - All Things Russian

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So where does China fit in with Russia?

[tgII]

Not sure of the relations between Russia and China because that would take a lot of
reading from many different sources.

The Future of China-Russia Relations

But I do know that it's over for America.

US, its economy nearing the end of time with rise of China

[tgII]

re: Proxy war with Russia.

Foreign Islamic Jihadi terrorists assassinate a Syrian journalist reporting events in
Damascus.

It is so tragic the cost in human life in this U.S./NATO proxy war with Russia. As far
as I can tell there are more than 50,000 dead and hundreds-of-thousands of Syrians
who have been forced out of their cities as refugees.

Syrian TV cameraman assassinated outside Damascus by 'armed groups’

[tgII]

What is this message? Are the Russians telling us they do not want or support Nazi
related groups or organizations and object to them?

While it's okay in the U.S. to have Nazi related organizations and groups and to glorify
Nazism?

Russia Slams US Opposition to UN 'Anti-Nazi' Resolution

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re: Proxy war against Russia.

If the U.S./NATO are so inclined to implement a "no-fly zone" over Syria I hope they
are prepared to lose a few fighters?

Syria’s ‘No-Nonsense’ Air Defenses Praised by Russian General

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re: Proxy war against Russia.

What happens if the Islamic Jihadi foreign terrorists in Syria fighting a Proxy war for
the U.S./NATO get access to Syria's chemical weapons?

To what extent will Russia go to for protecting these chemical weapons?

• Syria’s Chemical Weapons ‘Safe for Now’ - Moscow

[tgII]

re: Proxy war against Russia.

Here is a really good insight. The U.S. is using NATO as a terrorist weapon to go after
the ME.

US using NATO as terror tool against Middle Eastern nations: Randy Short

[tgII]

re: Russia kicks out foreign meddling organizations.

Russia builds strong defense against foreign interference

My feeling is Vladimir Putin just told George Soros to take a hike. George Soros is a very
dangerous human being.

George Soros, who first encountered The Open Society as Popper's student at the London School of Economics, founded the Open Society Institute to propagate Popper's ideas, particularly in Eastern Europe. [including Russia] Thus, the political philosophy Popper first articulated before the start of the Cold War is now being studied and put into practice in countries newly emerging from behind the Iron Curtain.

Leave it to the Jews and their messianic dysfunctional universalism to come up with
this shit and implemented through the London School of Economics. George Soros' mentor
was Karl Popper.

George Soros' organizations, or sponsorship of these organizations several of which are
involved in this Arab Spring, are in Libya and Syria. Some of these organizations are
NGOs.

International Crisis Group (these folks make sure there is crisis and plenty of it
so they can manage the crisis)
USAID (IMF and World Bank shock troops)
International Republican Institute (The IRI is embedded with spooks and
operatives of every conceivable type imaginable; they are like termites that infect
a wooden home)

The Russians just took over USAID and put a Russian in charge and I think recently told IRI
to pack their bags and get the fuck out of Russia.

Now is anyone wondering why the U.S./NATO are fighting a proxy war against Russia?

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Now is anyone wondering why the U.S./NATO are fighting a proxy war against Russia?

The US is a starving, cornered animal that must feed to survive. It will attempt to bite and consume anything even at its own peril.
Weakening of the US by over-extending itself economically, ethically, morally, militarily.
The US is slated to be seventh place in the NWO hierarchy of countries, but it must be crippled to be put there and to be kept there.
Russian and China will be, and are, its military superiors.

[tgII]

re: Russia in a war against three western imperial powers.

PressTV.com from my understanding is owned by Iranian interests so discernment
would be advised, however, the following isn't something that people already do not
know or are not aware of who have been scratching their heads wondering why there
is so much killing going on - and more being planned.

US, Britain, France secretly plotting to wage worldwide wars

[tgII]

re: proxy war against Russia in Syria.

It is important to not take at face value from any source including Russian sources
because being in a cyber war means news reporting is being written in a way to
report events yet keep important state strategies concealed.

Syrian civil war at stalemate, Assad won't go - Russia

[tgII]

re: proxy war on Russia in Syria.

To verify PressTV.com's reports check other sources with the leads they provide.

Russia says West is losing influence on Syria opposition

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re: Russians in Syria.

I figured this to be the case but now it is confirmed: Russians manning more
sophisticated air-defense weapons.

Excellent. I would like to see NATO jets get knocked out of the sky over Syria.

Russian military presence in Syria poses challenge to US-led intervention

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re: Vladimir Putin arrives in India.

Vladimir Putin arrived in Idia as India and Russia forged deal for India to purchase
$3 billion of Russian-made aircraft and helicopters.

Putin arrives in New Delhi for talks with Indian officials

[tgII]

re: proxy war in Syria against Russia.

Located this board in Russian today looking at news reports by a Russian journalist on
the ground in Syria embedded with the Syrian Army. It is the second video down
embedded in this board and runs about 50 minutes and is worth reviewing to get a
better understanding of the context of this terrorist attack on Syria.

ANNA

Apparently, it is a news sourced based out of Abkhazia, a disputed territory on the
eastern coast of the Black Sea and the south-western flank of the Caucasus. The
Abkhazian News Agency (ANNA) apparently has this board set up.

The thing about going to non-western news sources is you realize the enormous
disparity in reporting on events in Syria.

This is for you FOX, CNN, Reuters and BBC:

[tgII]

re: Vladimir Putin meets with the Jesuit Herman van Pompuy concerning
ostensibly Syria.

Dated December 23, 2012 (high level talks).

In the above video, check the dude out standing with Pompuy, he's the German
representative to the EU I believe. So before Vladimir Putin shows up for this meeting,
Germany's Holtzbrinck-paper “Handelsblatt”, rejoiced on December 13 that the top
terrorist leader, sorry, I mean NATO Secretary, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, of the North
Atlantic Terrorist Organisation (NATO), expects an early end of the government in
Damascus.

In addition, that Victoria Nuland, wife of the warmonger Robert Kagan and spokesperson
for the Zionist U.S. top warmonger Hillary Clinton, declared that the days of the Syrian
government are numbered (yes, again and again) and that even Russia has said that a
victory for the terrorists in Syria could be possible. Yeah, right.

Herman van Pompuy probably shit his pants in the EU when it was learned Vladimir
Putin gave permission to arm Syrian batteries with Russia's Iskander missiles (mobile
theater ballistic missile system).

He shit his pants because the American-made and NATO deployed patriot missiles had
to be positioned 160 kilometers back from their original location previously planned for
in NATO's lapdog Turkey.

Have fun NATO...they're super sonic...and they are aimed right at you, Israel and
American positions.

The imperial crusade from the West has been temporarily put on hold.

Stand by plebeians...more coming.

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re: Russian journalists in Syria.

Foreign mercenaries in Syria killing Syrians because of their religion and just being
Syrians.

Russian reporting in Syria: the only journalists with balls enough to go in compared to
the pansy ass reporting from western "journalists".

Godspeed to the Syrian Army. Kill every Allah Akabar ranting FSA terrorist in your gun
sites. No fucking mercy. They are terrorists and the Russians have documented their
atrocities against innocent Syrians.

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re: Al Jazeera's cover blown.

Al Jazeera's cover is blown because Al Jazeera is the BBC. This reporter even said that
Al Jazeera isn't news reporting, it's the Muslim Brotherhood.

This is what I have been reporting on for months. I've been vindicated from people
inside Al Jazeera who are defecting. This is related to events in Syria.

Al Jazeera is funded with petrodollars by Qatar, Britain's bitch whore in the region.

Interesting article about al-jazeerah defector in FAZ German magazine

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There is no media today that is broadcast on satellites or television that is free of "influence".

Much of the alternative internet media is no different.

[tgII]

re: reports of a high ranking Syrian military police defects.

Bullshit.

More crude propaganda. And notice the British news The Guardian puts this shit up on
their web site as being news about this alleged high level defection. If he was head of
the military Syrian police, whatever the hell that designates, it would mean the Syrian
police and military have the most incompetent intel people one could possibly imagine.
After two years it would mean they haven't gotten any smarter about fighting these
Jihadi terrorists? As if nobody in the immediate circle of this guy who it is alleged
defected, didn't know he was about to defect? Yeah, right.

He would have been put against a concrete wall on some military compound in Syria
and summarily executed. This video was voiced over.

Head of Syrian military police defects

Cyber war is not taking prisoners. Any reporting out of Saudi Arabia is immediately
suspect since Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, two petrodollar proxies for Anglo-American
cartels that are fueling (pun intended) this terrorist attack on Syria. And that goes for
Al Jazeera as well which is BBC as pointed out in the above post.

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Why hasn't Russia done one thing in answer to this?

At what point, if any, do you think Russia will do something in response to this?

[tgII]

My thoughts exactly and have been looking for Russian reports and news sources.
Problem is it is all in Russian and I can't get a good understanding of what Russia
intends to do. Any English versions and they are very careful about what they say
in public about their intent towards NATO/UK/France/U.S.

I know that from what I've seen of Russian film crews embedded with the Syrian
Army, the filming is very well done, explained very well and have an objective
observation of what it is they are filming. Excellent journalism. Some of the videos
if you can find them are captioned in English. The one I posted above embedded
in that board in Russian is very moving in some parts because you can see the stress,
anguish and pain Syrians are going through on their faces.

In the one video at the hospital they brought this little boy in about 8 years-old or
so and his stomach and intestines were hanging out of his abdomen. When you see
images like that and know how it happened, you really feel compelled to pick up a
gun and start killing these reckless totally fucking insane mercenary Jihadis being
trained and sent in through Lebanon and Turkey.

The Russian crew were documenting how these terrorists rig cars with shrapnel
explosives loaded with ball bearing parts to kill ordinary Syrian people.

LiveLeak commentary is remarkable in the sense that the views being placed there
are carried all the way from "kill 'em all" to those "poor people" to "nuke the place."
People for the most part don't have a clue what is going on because it is very complex.

I think we are waiting for Russia to send in Spetznaz and start supporting Syrian
Army to either push out the Jihadis or stabilize Syrian cities.

The propaganda is just incredible being pumped out of the region by Al Jazeera, BBC
and U.S. News sources. Nothing is dependable at all and you have to study every source
possible including all these gruesome videos that are just horrific to completely
understand what is happening here.

My apologies, but I don't have a blog or web site for this material on Syria/Russia to
keep track of my findings and so decided to place them here.

[KapitanScarlet]

Just recently Bp took a 20% share in Russians Kremlin Controlled largest public owned oil producing corp Rosfelt, add to this the russians are completly dependent on Bp technology to expand into the arctic and other offshore interests
Since 2001 , general British and Russian trade has increased by an average of 21% per year
British and chinese trade likewise has never been more entwined and increasing at interdependent rates

All countries now are just proxy puppets for the big businesses that control heir politics and even their very economic infrastructure , in that to disspoint a big multi-national means a big hang-over that no government will entertain

Whatever happens in syria will be some multi-mutual agreement of these big corps on how to share out the spoils along with aligning themselfes to any backdoor threats whilst also targetting mutual future assets and all this accomplished while force-harnessing assumed public support for any accidental wars that happen to get in the way of aquiring assets under the umbrella of our world security and using the universally accepted fair activists known as the united nations, nato and red cross and christian values to make us all feel everything in the world is as our god would like it to be or at least heaing in that direction

[tgII]

I'm afraid you are correct, Kapitan, re: BP holding 20 percent of Russian public oil
corporation Rosneft (correct spelling).

Russia's energy sources are just enormous...

The petroleum industry in Russia is one of the largest in the world. Russia has the largest reserves, and is the largest exporter, of natural gas. It has the second largest coal reserves, the eighth largest oil reserves, and is the largest producer of oil. It is the third largest energy user.

But the Russians not only use BP technology, Kapitan, they also use extensively
equipment engineered and manufactured by the Japanese. According to BP, Japan
refines roughly 5.09 percent of total wold refining of petroleum, so they know a little
something about refining equipment. And the Russians like "made in Japan."

The biggest oil company in Russia is Rosneft and the Russian government still retains
majority share in Rosneft.

The biggest Russian oil company is Rosneft followed by Lukoil, TNK-BP, Surgutneftegaz, Gazprom Neft and Tatneft. All oil trunk pipelines (except Caspian Pipeline Consortium) are owned and operated by the state-owned monopoly [monopoly? Go screw yourself Wikipedia; Valdimir Putin wrestled it away from oligarchic billionaires after western lackey Yeltsin was kicked out] Transneft and oil products pipeline are owned and operated by its subsidiary Transnefteproduct.

One of Rosneft's biggest refineries sits right there on the Black Sea so would imagine
it is being watched very closely for sabotage. This refinery refines oil from western
Siberia sent through pipelines which Russian corporations have huge financial interests
in including in Syria.

With this kind of infrastructure it means that the Russians are somewhat experts at
extracting it and since Russia has the largest reserves of natural gas in the world, that
leads observers including me, to what we are seeing in Syria is complete destabilization
so that multi national energy cartels can carve up whatever is left of Syria, to build their
energy infrastructure including gas pipelines which I understand converge through
Damascus.

It's the butchering and savagery of all these innocent people in Syria that disturbs me;
being exploited are these Islamic Jihadi fundamentalists terrorists who are canon
fodder for economic interests they don't even know exist. In fact, they'll be dead and
butchered and will never be able to use the natural gas and oil to heat their homes or
fuel their cars once the killing has come to an end.

And the real irony is these Jihadi fundamentalist Allah Akabar ranting lunatic terrorists
are using weaponry including ammunition that requires enormous amounts of energy
including oil and gas to manufacturer in the countries that manufacturer all this hardware
they are using to destabilize Syria. The stupid bastards don't even consider that scenario
when they fire from their positions at the Syrian Army from behind concrete walls.

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re: Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Jordan’s King Abdullah II have
held a secret meeting over Syria, a report says.

Israel despises the government of Bashar Assad and wants nothing more than to utterly
destroy Syria whatever means necessary.

If they can't get NATO/UK/France/U.S. to set up a no-fly zone re:Libya, they will attempt
any pretext to start bombing Syria.

The pretext being discussed with Jordan's King Abdullah II to potentially get consent for
Israel to send fighter jets/bombers into Syria to destroy chemical weapon storage sites.

Those sites are guarded and protected by Russians, not entirely Russians because
there are Syrian soldiers there to assist in protecting those chemical weapons. So what
is the intent here? If the Israelis bomb those chemical weapons storage facilities
wouldn't that risk releasing those chemicals if the facilities are bombed?

Netanyahu, Jordan’s king hold secret talks on Syria: Report

Israel will posture that the chemical weapons in Syria, which for the time being are
secured, will some how threaten Israel.

Pretext...pretext...pretext....and I certainly hope those Russian-built missiles
parked on Syrian soil are functioning properly.

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