Great scenes in Film

The most salient lines in the poetry from the opening of this
video, KapitanScarlet, is when the poet recites the lines,

"...creation is, all else is not..."

and

"...the artist is, all others are not..."

In the sense artists are the "antenna of culture", as Ezra
Pound once remarked.

A little note on the avatar used by tgII:

Peter Sellers in the one of the best movies directed by
Stanley Kubrick in Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to
Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb. This is the best
scene in the movie, or almost...

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"Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday
Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*!
Why didn't you tell the world, EH?"

hahahaha Peter Sellers looks so crazy when he says that.

Yeah great scene TgII, one of my fave black comedys ... sellers was superb in that one in all parts ... was wondering about the avatar , can see it now

There are some really insightful lines in that bucket of blood opening scene as well

I gotta say, tgII .... There is something about your avatar that fits you swimmingly that I can't quite put my finger on. When I look at your avatar it just fits in with what you say, sometimes. P.S. - That clip literally made me laugh out loud, thank you for that. And from now on, whenever I think of the word "psychopath", the image of Dr. Strangelove will forever be burned into my mind.

Geezuz, Flames, hope you haven't decided to associate me with a
psychopath?

The idea for the avatar couldn't have come at more of an appropriate time.
I got the idea after listening to this interview several weeks ago so when
Kapis put the new board up it seemed fitting.

Listen to Blackmailed by the Bomb

No no. I think the link I made between your avatar and you, is simply your relentless pursuit of understanding the psychopathic mind! On a cautious note, if you start spelling your words like: "Vhy" "Vis" "Vee", I'll be the first to let you know.

By the way, I just gotta play this classic right now, thanks tgII for introducing this song to me. I've played it several times on the jukebox at my local bar. You should see the look on the faces of the most extreme rednecks you could ever know, when they hear it.

ay thats a classic sketch with adolf, i thought i saw uri on the drums in one scene

In a hitler speech, i think from "Triumph of the will" , what he says is very interesting , i had the transcript somewhere .


On peter Sellers, His last Film BEING THERE looks like another hidden classic

"The film's title is a direct translation of the term Dasein, used by the German phenomenological philosopher Martin Heidegger to describe the essential nature of human beings. Sellers' character invariably responds to people and phenomena as they present themselves."

" Life is a state of mind "

The final scene is indeed poignant

Flames, hahahahaa...you dragged that Youtube video along of Hitler dubbed
in that semi-rock music with the catchy beat, very cool. When I first got
hold of that video I thought, how appropriate as mockery.

I didn't notice it until now, Flames, but towards the end did you notice, the
German Wehrmacht soldier fired a rocket propelled grenade?! I didn't know
the Germans developed that awesome weapon for taking out tanks and
what not?!

Ya, Kapis, who could forget Peter Sellers in Being There, the end where Peter
Sellers lifts the dead branch off the young sapling reaffirming life and the last
words heard are, "life is a state of mind."

Peter Sellers walks off into his own "state of mind" across the water, how
fitting.

Who could forget Peter Sellers in the Pink Panther series of movies too,
the scene in the lobby of the small inn with the dog, the script writers
on this scene excelled.

Oh man, I just have to see those old Pink Panther movies again. I've never seen Being There before, but if Sellers is in it, I must see it.

Here's my favorite scene from the movie Reservoir Dogs:



hmm youtube disabled embedding on this one...

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By the way, I was inspired to re-watch Dr. Strangelove, and I have a question for you guys. Does anyone know whether Strangelove was supposed to represent any specific paperclip Nazi? Or was Strangelove supposed to be just kind of an anonymous nod to the fact that the U.S. had psychopathic nazi scientists now working on weapons research?

At any rate, I have to say that Dr. Strangelove is my favorite black comedy ever. I would have loved to have seen Kubrick do a sequel to this movie. Now that would have been crazy!

Dont know of the doc was set on any actual character or not
Yeah i would agree strangelove is the best black comedy of all time, highly intelligent scripting and sellers playing 3 parts superbly along with a great support cast .

As a second to strangelove , one that comes to mind is cAtch 22 , although its maybe a bit blacker , but impressive script again

Flames, this quote seems to be appropriate in describing some of
Stanley Kubrick's insights into his films, particularly Dr. Strangelove.
Obviously, Kubrick had a clear understanding of these techniques and
was how both in America and Russia, "the bomb" and "mutual annihilation"
were used to beat their respective populations into submission, i.e.,
please refer to Joseph Farrell's understanding of the back-and-forth
technological transfers putting missions into space.

Dr. Strangelove was a cynical black comedy of this psychological
warfare going on.

Gedankenexperimente is the German word for “thought experiment.” The gedankenexperimente involves the tangible enactment of hypothetical scenarios in hopes of re-sculpting reality and creating a “new consensus.” Ideas are tested and the underlying assumptions of the current culture are called into question. As the socio-cultural thought experiment progresses, it might give rise to revisions in the status quo and the emergence of new cultural paradigms. Thus, the world of fact begins to more closely mirror the world of fiction. The a priori assumptions of science fiction literature become the de facto precepts of culture itself. In a sense, fiction becomes a precursor to fact.

In the video linked above listen carefully to the part when the general
mentions flouride in the water as some kind of a conspiracy. A lot of
questions were being raised then as well about flouride in the water.
Kubrick put that into the script!

Also, pay attention to the names of characters in the movie, they are
related to the defense industry, think tanks and people involved in the
entire techno-Utopian crowd back then when this movie was made.

Theodor Adorno, the theoretician mostly associated with music,
correctly identified the disjunction between scientific progress and
social progress, citing Nazi Germany as a prime example in his theory.

Many of these theoreticians came out of Germany and had a huge impact
on sociology in America, this may be why there are connections to "Nazis."
Did these theoreticians implement a type of socio-cultural
gedankenexperimente in a techno-Utopianism program in America
using "the bomb" as the psychological mechanism for change?

The Frankfurt School was dedicated to social research and many of its
students left Germany when Hitler came to power and went to Chicago.
These theoreticians had a major impact on how Americans think even until
today.

Important links:

The Frankfurt School of Social Research:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory_

Influential Frankfurt School theoreticians who had a huge impact on
American thought and influence. This is just a cursory list and there
are many other Frankfurt School theoreticians:

Herbert Marcuse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Marcuse

Max Weber
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Weber

Sigismund Schlomo Freud
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud

Max Horkheimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Horkheimer

Jürgen Habermas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Habermas

Walter Bendix Schönflies Benjamin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Benjamin

Franz Oppenheimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Oppenheimer

Erich Fromm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Fromm

The people from Frankfurt sure did a number on the rest of us didn't they?
A long history of carnage, you would think after all these years of socio-utopian
empire building turning people into mass man, by now circumstances would be a
bit better for us?

Now, I'm sort of wondering, is Leonard Peikoff closer to the truth than we
realize or is America closer to the Communist/Marxist ideal these above
mentioned theoreticians have been working on all these years? And just in
case no one has noticed, all of them have Jewish backgrounds with the
exception perhaps of Weber and Fromm.

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Confused? So am I.

The gedankenexperimente involves the tangible enactment of hypothetical scenarios in hopes of re-sculpting reality and creating a “new consensus.”

They sure seemed to have "re-sculpted" reality alright! I was familiar with a few of those names you mentioned, and knew a little bit about the Frankurt School. But there seems to be a black hole of my understanding of much of it.

I know Tsarion has used the term "consensus trance" before, and there definitely seems to be a trance of that sort.

You also mentioned techno-Utopianism. I've seen terms like that popping up a lot lately. This to me, is the scariest subject of all, in my opinion. Who knows what they've got cooking up for us. To use another Tsarion term "tecnnocratic purgatory". I'm laughing, I can't help it, but I wouldn't be laughing if I knew the full details of what these technocrats have planned.

We've discussed this Ray Kurzwell character in the past, there seem to be a lot of these "futurist" types that can't wait to rid humanity of humanity. This leads me to another problem I just can't seem to wrap my mind around, and that is this whole idea that "man is a horrible, useless monstrosity and must be purged". The fact that human beings are coming up with these allegations against their own species makes no sense to my mind.

I can understand how psychopaths may think of themselves as elite and superior to the rest of us, given their wealth and influence, but I don't understand their "super human" ideologies, and their constant pursuit of eugenics and ridding the world of its own species. Makes no sense to me.

What gives? Supposed they depopulate the world according to their plan, do they actually believe that they will all get along in some sort of harmony? We're basically talking about a few people who have claimed the right to inherit the earth, I wonder how long it would take before they turn on each other?

It's just a damn shame we can't prosecute these criminals and make sure that in the future mentally unstable men cannot rule the world anymore. I guess by default, man really can't live in harmony with hierarchical structures of schools of thoughts, futurists, and think tanks. So what form of governance can a sane society create that would be beneficial to all?

Thank God I quit smoking, I could sure go for a cigarette and a strong drink right about now.

Good afternoon, everyone, the psychopath, Dr. Strangelove, is
back, and Flames, did you have a smoke yet?


I'm just sort of wondering, from this scene in the movie Dr. Strangelove,
Peter Sellers (Group Captain Lionel Mandrake) and Sterling Hayden
(General Jack D. Ripper), are in the middle of a firefight, when General
Ripper suddenly starts talking about water fluoridation being a
'communist conspiracy', saying,

"...fluoridation is a Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids..."

...and then goes on to further say he was made aware of his,

"...loss of essence during the physical act of love..."

...and that it "fatigued him." Alright, go to the 6:25 point in this
short clip and have listen to the conversation:

What have we learned since 1964 when Dr. Strangelove was filmed,
well, for one thing, fluoridated water wasn't a "communist conspiracy"
and further, fluoridated water has definitely proven to be extremely
harmful as the following article points out.

Fluoride Causes Premature Births, Brain Degradation, Bone Loss, Cancer and Hormone Disruption

Ethan Huff
NaturalNews
Wed, 09 Dec 2009

A recent study conducted by researchers from the State University of New York (SUNY) found that fluoride ingestion may be responsible for causing premature births. Presented to the American Public Health Association at its annual meeting, these findings ratchet up yet another detrimental consequence of ingesting this toxic poison that is added to most American municipal water supplies. http://www.sott.net/articles/show/198626-Fluoride-Causes-Premature-Births-Brain-Degradation-Bone-Loss-Cancer-and-Hormone-Disruption

This film says, "The real Doomsday Machine is men." Actually, the
real Doomsday Machine is sex. Stanley Kubrick, being Jewish, might
explain his obsession with sexual innuendo in the movie.

Group Captain Lionel Mandrake - The root of the mandrake plant was often used as an aphrodisiac in the past.
General Jack D. Ripper - Jack the Ripper killed prostitutes.
Colonel Bat Guano - Bat shit.
General Buck Turgidson - The definition of "turgid" is "being in state of distension; swollen, tumid."
Major "King" Kong - King Kong was an interesting symbol of maleness and obsession.
Russian Premier Kissoff - Telling someone to "kiss off."

How fitting, Flames, isn't smoking a cigarette immediately after
having sex suppose to some how satisfy the lovers?


"Gentlemen, no fighting in the War Room!" -- The psychopath, Dr. Strangelove

Enjoyed that analysis tgII. That fluoridation bit just freaks me out, considering how old that movie is.

In keeping up with the general mood of these clips, I present to you what could arguably be the craziest Christopher Walken scene ever:

Yeah walkens done some "of the wall" scenes in his times

"...loss of essence during the physical act of love..."

The term "foreign agent " for something in the water is great wordplay

That Kubrick was way out in front of his peers in film scripts , in his work, he has layed out a m ountain of information about the esoteric human psyche and its signs and symbols relating to its well being or dysfunction

A true masterpiece among his other masterpieces

My fave sci film of all time, the concept is so relating to human psychology and the progress of technology

a secret confession - i love technology , but in the correct hands , but what is the definition of correct , yeah
There was an insightful program on recently about life in a uk nuclear sub, Becvause theyve designed a new one , they allow video of the old one
And to set of the nuke rockets in earnest, requires orders from thine majestys gov, followed by i think it was requiring 3 of the officers to come together in full protocol to allow the trigger... the anti singular psychopath routine, but if we start getting collections of psychopaths in synch , wo, but thats what the extreme discipline training is supposed to do, iron out the individual potential catalyst psychopath seed in each submariner

The Peter Blunt System.

Aye cracker fLames

JOhn Wayne - pRo mcarthy and on nice america

Errol flynn - pro-castro