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Re: Freestyling
Blackbird, seems if you made it this far, you can do even more So you have never had your kundalini activated?
You are interested in others things, good for you! Found this while looking for Planet X on the net, I ended up again where you did, finding the galactic federation, but instead I found the Nibiruan society and it led me to once again the Cassopieans.
The Nibiruans say we can create the future we desire, but it hasn't been like since forever it seems sadly. Why would they be helping people all of sudden to be able to do this. Well because they have an agenda that's why. And I'm not sure if it's any good the more I read.
http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/mission_about.html
In Robert Temple's The Sirius Mystery he talks about the Dogon tribe knowing about Sirius B and Sirius C, before it was found out by scientists. And that the aliens that were in Sumeria, are coming back. Now it seems that Robert is using the Dogon here for some reason. His book is just another way of politely saying......people were seeded by aliens.........right in our faces folks......the new agers (who are alien source themself) say we are genetically manipulated. ( IMO, that makes the most sense out of all the 'how did humanity come to be' theories). But why throw it in our faces now. You know folks are very seriously controlled, behavior and feelings (over 90% are IMO, yet don't even know it!) they will now be allowed to accept and believe in aliens because the Vatican now does and are pushing for disclosure.
One of the Dogon's beliefs is that Sirius B occupied the place where our Sun is now.
Something to do with the second sun or Planet X?
Why is Sirius C so hush hush??
The Hopi and Dogon have some things in common. They both point to Sirius and it's companions. Sirius C according to the Dogon
is also a companion where the amphibian lizardlike beings came from. And the blue star is a companion to Sirius B! So will we have visitors?
The creators of the symbol eye on the dollar will be returning. The all seeing eye will be back. What an amazing time if
Ra/Horus is returning in a few years! The star's returning may cause a huge cataclysm like it did in the past. So they
will have to rebuild humanity and civilization. So maybe all the new age talk of the pleiadians or nibiruans wanting to starseed
and program DNA is because they will create the new human after the disaster?
You are interested in others things, good for you! Found this while looking for Planet X on the net, I ended up again where you did, finding the galactic federation, but instead I found the Nibiruan society and it led me to once again the Cassopieans.
The Nibiruans say we can create the future we desire, but it hasn't been like since forever it seems sadly. Why would they be helping people all of sudden to be able to do this. Well because they have an agenda that's why. And I'm not sure if it's any good the more I read.
http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/mission_about.html
In Robert Temple's The Sirius Mystery he talks about the Dogon tribe knowing about Sirius B and Sirius C, before it was found out by scientists. And that the aliens that were in Sumeria, are coming back. Now it seems that Robert is using the Dogon here for some reason. His book is just another way of politely saying......people were seeded by aliens.........right in our faces folks......the new agers (who are alien source themself) say we are genetically manipulated. ( IMO, that makes the most sense out of all the 'how did humanity come to be' theories). But why throw it in our faces now. You know folks are very seriously controlled, behavior and feelings (over 90% are IMO, yet don't even know it!) they will now be allowed to accept and believe in aliens because the Vatican now does and are pushing for disclosure.
One of the Dogon's beliefs is that Sirius B occupied the place where our Sun is now.
Something to do with the second sun or Planet X?
In fact, Sirius C was “observed about twenty times between 1920 and 1930” (Benest and Duvent, 1995, page 621).
American astronomer Philip Fox believed he had seen a close companion of Sirius B in 1921 (Ridpath, 1978a, page 194). Various other authors also refer to reported sightings of, or speculation about, Sirius C in the 1920s (e.g. Oberg, 1982, page 123; Spencer, 1997, page 59)
Why is Sirius C so hush hush??
The views held by astronomers regarding the existence of Sirius C have changed like fashions during the last century. After the 1920s and 1930s, Sirius C went out of fashion. It was rarely observed by astronomers and considerable doubt existed by the 1970s regarding its existence. Those doubts increased considerably in 1973, when Irving W Lindenblad reported that a series of photographic observations showed no evidence of a close companion to either Sirius A or Sirius B. In 2000, scientists suggested that the sightings in the 1920s were probably due to an unrelated background star but the existence of a long-period companion “cannot definitely be ruled out” (Bonnet-Bidaud, Colas and Lecacheux, 2000). Thus, the earlier reported observations of Sirius C were widely regarded as observational errors. Irving W Lindenblad informed Ian Ridpath during the 1970s that “the possibility of a very distant third body cannot be ruled out theoretically” (Ridpath, 1978a, page 194). Thus, at the time Robert Temple’s book was published in 1976 few astronomers considered it probable that Sirius C existed.
The question maybe settled as larger and more powerful telescopes take a look at the Sirius system. According to the legend there is a third star: Sirius C, and it is around Sirius C that the home planet of the Nommos orbits. Most scientists do not consider any part of the Sirius system a prime candidate for life, though.
And if most scientists believe there is no life there, I can only assume, because of the lies given to us from them, that there is life there.
The Hopi and Dogon have some things in common. They both point to Sirius and it's companions. Sirius C according to the Dogon
is also a companion where the amphibian lizardlike beings came from. And the blue star is a companion to Sirius B! So will we have visitors?
The creators of the symbol eye on the dollar will be returning. The all seeing eye will be back. What an amazing time if
Ra/Horus is returning in a few years! The star's returning may cause a huge cataclysm like it did in the past. So they
will have to rebuild humanity and civilization. So maybe all the new age talk of the pleiadians or nibiruans wanting to starseed
and program DNA is because they will create the new human after the disaster?
seraphim- Posts : 1180
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Re: Freestyling
Blackbird, the more I read, it's incredible what these groups are saying and doing and how they have their hooks in millions of people.
The Nibiruans
Bring about emotional responses, well that right there is a way to change the physical. How do they know about changing DNa.And how do they know about the other worlds.
They don't want us to fight back it seems.
The Nibiruans
What on earth, they are going to use people to keep them trapped! When they say a means of escape, from what! The nibiruans who will be here soon! Or is it another lie and they are doing all this grid and vortex work to change the human frequency. If they are so interested in freeing people, why haven't they already?In addition to holding templates in place, a vortex will hold grid points created by gridworkers/vortex keepers in their travels, thus anchoring energy from other votexes and locations. This creates an energetic grid or web around a planet. This grid or web will offset and help neutralize any fequency fence created to imprison the minds of the people living on the planet. It will also provide a means of escape. For more on frequency fences and the one the Global Elite is working feverishly to build using scalar technology, read, The Mission Remembered.
It's obvious they are the manipulators behind a front of so called whistleblowers.As I understand it, the 4 human homeworlds that were destroyed all met their demise once they reached 5D, the Age of Light or Information. When all the hidden information was revealed the people were shocked. Feeling helpless, hopeless and angry, and without any way to integrate the information and move beyond it, they resorted to what they had always done....war.
Because we are replaying those events in the hope of making different choices, we must recreate similar situations to bring about the same emotoinal responses as those that occurred once each of these worlds reached 5D. We are at that point now on our current timeline. Why? The time of the whistleblowers is here. Whistle blowers are researchers who, with the help of the Internet and other sources are discovering the truth of what is really going on and are "blowing the whistle" to alert us all. But with all such revelations a degree of betrayal is felt. Along with the betrayal comes the fear and anger. Additionally, once we discover just how far reaching and huge the "powers that be" are, we experience the hopelessness and helplessness. I've seen many people leaving Whistle blower conferences feeling helpless and enraged. That's exactly what occurred on each of those 4 worlds. The result, they did what they always did, they pulled out their weapons and started fighting. We cannot do that this time and expect a better outcome...we must use another way.
So where do we go from here? We must continue revealing the hidden truths but also provide a way to move beyond them
Bring about emotional responses, well that right there is a way to change the physical. How do they know about changing DNa.And how do they know about the other worlds.
They don't want us to fight back it seems.
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Re: Freestyling
And here is a critique of the Stargate Conspiracy book by the Cassiopaean group:
Whether all of them have one controller, I would have to say that Blavatsky's work completely obliterates away any of the new age works of today. They sure put out different work now which is like a child's book, compared to fine literature back then. Even if most of the works out there are controlled, there are some great books out there and HPB's is certainly one of them. I have an idea, but putting her and Melchizidek, who the suspicious one is IMO, together is odd. It would be great to know how they come up with there conclusions.
P & P begin their work with a chapter on the Nine Gods of Egypt - The Great Ennead. After analyzing it, they come to the conclusion that the present day "agenda" has co-opted images that stood for certain creative principles.
the Ennead, itself, is one of the first representations of the Control System in "scientific" terms of the past.
One of the ways in which they have slipped into this very error, held vigorously in place by the knowledge filtration system of present mainstream science, is the comparison of some of the pyramid texts to a cosmology that presents the theory of the Big Bang. Had they been doing their homework on this one, they would have realized that the idea of the Big Bang itself is part of the Control System - originating in the concepts of linear time incepted by monotheism. The fact is, the Big Bang idea is only a theory, and not a very good one.
They then, quite rightly point out that, in reaction to the realization that our religions and sciences and cultural norms are NOT providing a satisfactory explanation of the Order of the Universe, that a countercultural revolution of the mind is taking place wherein people of all walks of life have decided to search for the answers themselves.
What is of most compelling interest is the information on Andrija Puharich and the possibility that there was a "program" in effect for a long time designed to teach very psychic kids to learn to "project" thoughts into the minds of others so as to convince them that they were channeling extraterrestrials. This is also something of which we are aware, only it was very recently that we were apprised of Puharich's possible role in such activity. The Cassiopaeans very clearly told us that there was an "army of psychic projectors" which they designated as "Thor's Pantheum," which was being used to influence individuals in positions of power and in the creative arts so as to have them produce books, movies, television shows and series - all with an agenda in mind: the same agenda identified by Picknett and Prince author of Stargate.
Who would have known.........
In the end, however, P & P bring it home to the channeling of The Council of Nine, connecting it to Andrija Puharich, James Hurtak and his Keys of Enoch, mind programming projects such as MKULTRA, Enochian Magick as promulgated by MacGregor Mathers and Aleister Crowley, possible political manipulations of R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz, various orders of "Melchizidek," and "Guardians" of various extraterrestrial sources, including Ashtar, Sananda, and so on. They make a powerful and convincing case.
What is even more interesting is that they point out that the groundwork was being laid very early on by such luminaries as Helena Blavatsky and Alice Bailey. Well, we knew that, also. How? The Cassiopaeans told us and, following their clues, we researched it and discovered it to be true. And, in general, that has been the pattern of the C's. They give us a clue and send us out to do our homework because they don't ask us to just believe what they say.
And, of course, the main issue that was missed by P & P was that of monotheism and its control on the minds of the Western world, softening us up and setting us up to receive a "New God" at some point in the not-too-distant future.
Whether all of them have one controller, I would have to say that Blavatsky's work completely obliterates away any of the new age works of today. They sure put out different work now which is like a child's book, compared to fine literature back then. Even if most of the works out there are controlled, there are some great books out there and HPB's is certainly one of them. I have an idea, but putting her and Melchizidek, who the suspicious one is IMO, together is odd. It would be great to know how they come up with there conclusions.
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Re: Freestyling
No thoughts about this one, no words to express either....stunning.......
Just when you thought manipulations of this magnitude couldn't get any better..........
This is what I was trying to convey.......
Cassiopaeans: All there is is lessons. This is one infinite school. There is no other reason for anything to exist. Even inanimate matter learns it is all an "Illusion." Each individual possesses all of creation within their minds. Now, contemplate for a moment. Each soul is all powerful and can create or destroy all existence if [they] know how. You and us and all others are interconnected by our mutual possession of all there is. You may create alternative universes if you wish and dwell within. You are all a duplicate of the universe within which you dwell. Your mind represents all that exists. It is "fun" to see how much you can access.
The Cassiopaeans' have said: "Remember, free will is the most important law of consciousness in creation."
Just when you thought manipulations of this magnitude couldn't get any better..........
One of the chief concepts of the Nine is that the Earth was an "experiment in free will" that went wrong and if we just hold our mouth right, they will come in and fix things up for us as they have over and over again.
So we were given free will when we weren't supposed to? And they are going to fix that so perhaps we don't, and still haven't had free will in a while.
A: We are all the names of God. Remember, this is a conduit. This means that both termination/origination points are of equal value, importance.
Well, that's good, right?
It could be. Except for one fact: most people simply are not aware of the Control System. They are not aware that they are, essentially, pouring new wine into old bottles. The forms and structures of belief are inculcated into human beings so cunningly, based on the millennia old Control System plans, that even when they seek to discover for themselves what is "really out there," most people only manage to jump out of the frying pan and into the fire. P & P note:
But, enough on that; back to the Stargate Conspiracy. Let me suggest, first of all, that the reader may wish to obtain a copy as soon as possible and read it carefully. After you have read it, go back and read the various channeled materials it discusses with the idea in mind that such material may, indeed, be being presented with a hidden agenda. And, while reading, keep in mind that one of the main tactics of the Control System is to find a means of subtly allying their message with that of the truly Positive so as to generate confusion in untrained minds which would tend on surface evidence to accept these actually contrary messages as benevolent.
The Control System does not inculcate belief by lying - at least not all the time. The lies, the subtle twists on the truth, are generally buried deeply in a soft cushion of warm and tender concern for their "chosen ones." The Control System proceeds by the method of imitation. It APES the expression of the positive, and all the more carefully when it wishes to be mistaken altogether for truly benevolent intentions.
However, the problem is actually deeper than that. It could be said that the Shepherd cares tenderly for his flock, guarding and protecting them; moving them from green pasture to green pasture; bedding them down for the nights next to pools of cool, clear water. When they are sick, he tends them; when one of them is lost, he goes and finds them and returns them to the fold. The image of the Good Shepherd as a representation of God is brought to us from the dim primeval past; it is ingrained in us to think of our Loving Father as a Shepherd, holding the lost lamb, glowing with beneficence and kindly devotion to his flock.
But, the fact is, nobody is really paying attention to this image because, if they were, they would realize that the shepherd only tends the flock so he can shear them and/or eat them. And in times past, that included regular and numerous sacrifices to the "Gods."
Now, just think about that for a moment.
explains how the starseeding works for the new agers.......vortex etc
: (L) I want to get back on my question that you have not answered... I want to know who, exactly, and why, exactly, genetically engineered the Semitic people, and why there is such an adversarial attitude between them and the Celts and Aryans.
A: It is not just between the Jews and Celts, if you will take notice. Besides, it is the individual aural profile that counts and not groupings or classifications. But, to answer your question: there are many reasons both from on and off the planet.
Q: (L) Why was Hitler so determined, beyond all reason, even to his own self-destruction, to annihilate the Jews?
A: Many reasons and very complex. But, remember, while still a child, Hitler made a conscious choice to align himself with the "forces of darkness," in order to fulfill his desires for conquest and to unite the Germanic peoples. Henceforth, he was totally controlled, mind, body, and soul, by STS forces.
Q: (L) So, what were the purposes of the STS forces that were controlling Hitler causing him to desire to annihilate an entire group of people?
A: To create an adequate "breeding ground" for the reintroduction of the Nephalim, for the purpose of total control of the 3rd density earth prior to elevation to 4th density, where such conquest is more difficult and less certain!
Q: (L) Do you mean "breeding ground" in the sense of genetic breeding?
A: Yes. Third density.
Q: (L) Did they accomplish this goal?
A: No.
Q: (L) So, the creation of the Germanic "Master Race" was what they were going after, to create this "breeding ground?"
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And, getting rid of the Jews was significant? Couldn't a Germanic master race be created without destroying another group?
A: No.
Q: Why?
A: Because of 4th density prior encoding mission destiny profile.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: This means encoding to activate after elevation to 4th density, thus if not eliminated, negates Nephalim domination and absorption. Jews were prior encoded to carry out mission after conversion, though on individual basis. The Nazis did not exactly know why they were being driven to destroy them, because they were being controlled from 4th density STS. But, Hitler communicated directly with Lizards, and Orion STS, and was instructed on how to create the "master race."
Q: (L) And they were going to use this as their basis to introduce a new blend of the Nephilim... (RC) And the New World Order... their version of it. (L) Well, what is the plan now?
A: We cannot tell you this yet, as you would seek to reveal it prematurely, leading to your destruction!!!!
The strategy of the Control System is to begin its work by adhering so closely to the letter of the positive as to be virtually indistinguishable to all but the most perspicacious individuals. It installs belief through a sort of rhythmic lull of entrainment which then permits acceptance of all that is said when it finally diverges slightly or greatly from the set pattern and pulls the mind of the believer along with it.
There are so many variations of the strategy that it would be almost impossible to list them all, but it ranges from Christianity, Judaism, Islam and most of the worlds religions of the present time, to the new variations being promulgated in the present time via dozens, or even hundreds, of New Age channels and "purveyors" of wisdom. It finds its fullest and most identifiable expression in the teachings of certain occultists, including those promoting ritual magick, whether they claim to be of the "black" or "white" variety.
This is what I was trying to convey.......
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/stargate.htm"Belief" is, essentially, the "Ostrich School of Metaphysics." The attitude taken by most New Age purveyors of wisdom is exactly this "Ostrich" mode, which is merely a neo-Augustinian dismissal of evil as a "nonentity," or a shadow to be defined only as the "absence of good."
This is actually a clever maneuver of the Control System to gather energy. With this idea, people think that the whole solution to the problem is to "educate" all the "negative" beings out of their contrary ways... that if they are only "loved enough" or "helped to see the error of being bad, and how nice it is to be good," that all will become sweetness and light. Such a doctrine has no idea of what to do with an evil that is conscious and intentional and the choice of highly intelligent entities.
One of the tactics of the Control System is to propagate, expand and exaggerate the magnitude, the horror, and the despair of information so as to suggest that personal power is a chimera in the face of collective hopelessness. This results in a feeling of powerless passivity and ineffectuality. From such passivity, people are easily moved toward "sources" that seem to compensate as an "authority" or a substitute for our lost power. The authority claimed by such a source tends to make us even more subject to its depredations, and thus weak beyond resistance to any wholesale negative invasion.
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Re: Freestyling
Excuse the long fellow forum posters, the things a person can read on the internet, and so much.
Hi Bobdog, what I meant in my have faith quote is to have faith in yourself, having faith in other things may not be beneficial as they are just a part of Maya, dust in the wind. There are other ways that work to get empowerment, but blind faith isn't.
And if all those high things set in sight don't materialize, or problems that you must solve that don't, it's not the end of the world. And if the problem wasn't a part of your equation, meaning who you really are, you were never meant to solve them and there are reasons why for that.
It's great you reach out to explore and learn, find out more about the obstacles before solving them that truly deal have to deal with you and put full energy into that and maybe you will get more rewarded or things solved?
Just a little something I realized in life........
p.s. I read your Emerson post and I have my opinions. But wasn't given the privilege to read such literature growing up.
I think one has to use a pure mind to find one's own truth. But so many people take on other's truth that they truly believe which are actually not truths at all. You can see that in all those who belong to big religions.
They swear and die by those truths. But then they would argue I have my own set of beliefs and that one truth is not the truth of another. So in that case one should be given a pure mind to find their own and then people will realize bigger truths perhaps.
So how to find them? Filtering out certain wavelengths that go through the mind. And being able to bring in those that help and stopping those waves that don't get one anywhere. Being able to make those switches may make one have super acute awareness maybe. And it also would be nice if people are not born disconnected. It's great you started meditating, a great way get those connections. A clue for you!
The logic mind seems to be rational. But I would not make anything conclusive or act on something important unless the mind was clean first. Because it's not reasonable since it is a receiver that picks up anything.The mind dial must be able to tune and change the waves if it want's to make sense of things on a larger scale perhaps.
And the funny thing is the mind is only rational in this state, other states blow the mind away, so it's as if it's programmed for this state only or for one program.
So through all those different states of being there must be something else besides the mind that has to be relied upon.
Hi Bobdog, what I meant in my have faith quote is to have faith in yourself, having faith in other things may not be beneficial as they are just a part of Maya, dust in the wind. There are other ways that work to get empowerment, but blind faith isn't.
And if all those high things set in sight don't materialize, or problems that you must solve that don't, it's not the end of the world. And if the problem wasn't a part of your equation, meaning who you really are, you were never meant to solve them and there are reasons why for that.
It's great you reach out to explore and learn, find out more about the obstacles before solving them that truly deal have to deal with you and put full energy into that and maybe you will get more rewarded or things solved?
Just a little something I realized in life........
p.s. I read your Emerson post and I have my opinions. But wasn't given the privilege to read such literature growing up.
I think one has to use a pure mind to find one's own truth. But so many people take on other's truth that they truly believe which are actually not truths at all. You can see that in all those who belong to big religions.
They swear and die by those truths. But then they would argue I have my own set of beliefs and that one truth is not the truth of another. So in that case one should be given a pure mind to find their own and then people will realize bigger truths perhaps.
So how to find them? Filtering out certain wavelengths that go through the mind. And being able to bring in those that help and stopping those waves that don't get one anywhere. Being able to make those switches may make one have super acute awareness maybe. And it also would be nice if people are not born disconnected. It's great you started meditating, a great way get those connections. A clue for you!
The logic mind seems to be rational. But I would not make anything conclusive or act on something important unless the mind was clean first. Because it's not reasonable since it is a receiver that picks up anything.The mind dial must be able to tune and change the waves if it want's to make sense of things on a larger scale perhaps.
And the funny thing is the mind is only rational in this state, other states blow the mind away, so it's as if it's programmed for this state only or for one program.
So through all those different states of being there must be something else besides the mind that has to be relied upon.
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Hi Blackbird, I guess I mean activated kundalini by having it rise or awaken. Or whatever you read about the process, or do you have a different story than what's out there or your own experience?
Rainyday that was funny you know I was really thinking of getting a pet snake but now is not a good time.
Bobdog, neat you can sing and think! I may of heard of Dr. Macdougall but never saw 21 grams. I'll read it for sure.
Rainyday that was funny you know I was really thinking of getting a pet snake but now is not a good time.
Bobdog, neat you can sing and think! I may of heard of Dr. Macdougall but never saw 21 grams. I'll read it for sure.
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Hello Rainyday, I think the risen Kundalini gives the ability to leave the physical world behind. Even while we are still in it, our true essence which is spirit can travel beyond the common boundaries of perception. Maybe psychospiritual transformation is a good word to discribe it.
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Rainyday the thought of snakes crawling on me while I sleep sends shivers up my spine. I wouldn't mind that at all. As long as they are not venomous, the bites would be alright. I think I will go handle a few next week.
Why wouldn't they be good pets?
As for those rodents no way. That's what I thought when I was a kid, how cute and cuddly, but they really are vicious, will destroy everything and eat anything. And they need to be locked up in a cage 24/7. And the males and females
can't be together unless they are fixed. Sounds like some people I'm acquainted with. Did you know they would kill themselves for cocaine.
Why wouldn't they be good pets?
As for those rodents no way. That's what I thought when I was a kid, how cute and cuddly, but they really are vicious, will destroy everything and eat anything. And they need to be locked up in a cage 24/7. And the males and females
can't be together unless they are fixed. Sounds like some people I'm acquainted with. Did you know they would kill themselves for cocaine.
http://gnosticteachings.org/the-teachings-of-gnosis/lectures-by-samael-aun-weor/the-archeusWhosoever has created the bodies must then perfect them. In order for the bodies to be perfected, it is absolutely necessary to eliminate the Dry Mercury, which is nothing more than the pluralized “I” (ego).
If one does not eliminate the pluralized “I,” then the existential bodies cannot be perfected and they cannot be recovered by the distinct parts of the Being.
In order for the bodies to be recovered by the distinct parts of the Being, they must be perfected. They must be converted into vehicles of pure Gold. However, these vehicles cannot be converted into instruments of pure Gold unless the Dry Mercury and the Arsenic Sulfur are eliminated.
What is Dry Mercury? It is the “I” (ego). What is Arsenic Sulfur? It is the carnal, bestial fire of the atomic infernos of the human being. This fire corresponds to the abominable Kundabuffer organ.
Thus, it is necessary to eliminate the Dry Mercury and the Arsenic Sulfur in order for the existential superior bodies, which are created by the Archaeous of Alchemy, to be converted into the finest quality vehicles of pure Gold.
Only thus can these vehicles of pure Gold be recovered by the distinct parts of the Being. Lo and behold how in the end all these vehicles penetrate and co-penetrate each other without interference. They then serve as a covering for our King, our Intimate Christ. Christ rises from His sepulcher in the instant in which this type of covering exists. He covers himself anew with it so that He may manifest Himself here, through the senses, in order to work for this suffering humanity. This is how the Lord comes to life. This is how the Cosmic Christ emerges into existence. Christ, in other words, is the Interior Magnes of Alchemy.
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Flames wrote:
I can't help but to wonder what you people see in your respective lands, and imagine how to what degree does it affect your psyches'. The screen name I have chosen for myself is highly symbolic of my nature: the burning orange glow of desire to be alive, manifested in flames. The very primal flame. Though I believe there are lessons to be learned in these morbid winters, their cruelty is almost admirable in their wicked patterns.
Story of Eden = Metaphor for the Neolithic Lifestyle
Agriculture = Plants & Animals will obey your will = being like god, the "gods"
Hunter-gatherer bands, which are generally egalitarian.
Horticultural/pastoral societies in which there are generally two inherited social classes; chief and commoner.
Highly stratified structures, or chiefdoms, with several inherited social classes: king, noble, freemen, serf and slave.
Civilizations, with complex social hierarchies and organized, institutional governments.
Göbekli Tepe - was erected by hunter-gatherers in the 10th millennium BC (12000 years ago).
THERE IS MORE TIME BETWEEN GOBEKLI TEPE AND THE SUMERIAN TABLETS (3300 B.C.) THAN FROM SUMER TO TODAY!
I don't know what you see, but I see the OLDEST HUMAN WRITING, and they diged it just out of the ground. Über-cool!!
The weirdest anomally is that about 8000 years ago, a hell of a lot of work was undertaken to carefully bury the site
with enormous amounts of sand, due to which the site was perfectly hidden and preseved.
....In the morning I stay inside and read books and articles....
and dream of visiting Göbekli Tepe and the Bosnian Pyramids..it's not too far from here.
I like it that it's dark during the day now....I see a lot of things differently in this period of time.
I like walking outside when it is dark..and cold, maybe because it is quite and everything has a different feel.
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Re: Freestyling
Oh..
Sometimes I think many people bottle up a lot of impressions over the year which then all come out at once. Because in this time of the year everything slows down and we have a glimpse on Hades.
Maybe you are exhausted. We don't only cry when we have reasons to be sad..sometimes exhaustion expresses itself as sadness.
Try my recipe for the season:
Tryptophan : 7o% dark cacao chocolate, the other day I made brownies from it and during the winter I eat a lot of high yield and high quality dark chocolates. That's a typical women remedy.
Omega-3-fatty acid : salmon and some other fishes are high yield and it's always best to eat a lot of fish during the wintertime.
It's good for the heart in many ways.
To feel a bit down is okay as long as your tears wash out the sadness. Sometimes we don't know how to get different thoughts though,
maybe now is the right time to read a good book?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1573243566?ie=UTF8&tag=spiritualshor-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1573243566
Or you even decide to write a shortstory yourself, Kapis
Sometimes I think many people bottle up a lot of impressions over the year which then all come out at once. Because in this time of the year everything slows down and we have a glimpse on Hades.
Maybe you are exhausted. We don't only cry when we have reasons to be sad..sometimes exhaustion expresses itself as sadness.
Try my recipe for the season:
Tryptophan : 7o% dark cacao chocolate, the other day I made brownies from it and during the winter I eat a lot of high yield and high quality dark chocolates. That's a typical women remedy.
Omega-3-fatty acid : salmon and some other fishes are high yield and it's always best to eat a lot of fish during the wintertime.
It's good for the heart in many ways.
To feel a bit down is okay as long as your tears wash out the sadness. Sometimes we don't know how to get different thoughts though,
maybe now is the right time to read a good book?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1573243566?ie=UTF8&tag=spiritualshor-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1573243566
Or you even decide to write a shortstory yourself, Kapis
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Re: Freestyling
You want to talk about the things your buddies would not understand about you because they properbly don't even understand themselfs, and I think writing letters to one's soul is helping to get back to what matters. We have a innert need to express our feelings. Do we listen? If we neglegt this need they will still surface, one way or another, tears of sadness are sweet in comparisson to hate or despair.
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That's very sad that they don't want to live. To a certain extent I can understand it, but their death will make no difference. But if you say they are drinking, than they do exactly as the system wants it..people don't drink because they really want to die, but because they want to numb themselfs to not having to feel the cruelty of the world they live in. But it also stops them from developing themselfs. And I mean especially developing to take responsibility for oneself. I know this because my grandfather comited suicide. And some people have better reasons to kill themselfs than others. He was born with Tetanus. One side of his body was paralized with smaller degenerated limbs. His whole life he was regarded as a worthless member of society. In those early days of the last century a cripple for a son was a curse of god and a useless eater on the farmers table. I can understand why he did it. His world rejected him from birth and beyond his death. So you ask your friends what they think about my grandfather. Are they cripples like he was? Or are they physically healthy young men? Than what are they suffering from instead? Sometimes it helps to compare ones own life with that of others. The truth is that my grandfather only did what the world thought of him constantly. He took that weapon out of their hands and thrusted it right back into their cold hearts. So from the philosophical perspective I can only ask: did he go to, or did he actually leave HELL? Did I mention that my grandfather thought that all "love-preaching" christian priests are devious dishonest idiots? But make no mistake, we are all "rejected", we all must "compete" with one another, so we grow up with very little love and want to die sometimes. Love is the only thing that makes a difference. Without it we have no reason to live. So we must choose to love or to die. My grandfather was too worn out halftime.
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Re: Freestyling
from distant memory, i think i recall that steiner does encodingly illustrate a form of progression from hell to heaven in the human condition , with the enlightened human ending up as a very satisfied willing person committed to the act of benevolence ...helping others
In simple perceptions of this illustration, they move from one level of rebellious slavery in earthly consciousness hell to another form of slavery in earthly consciousness heaven , but in heaven, they become a completly willing slave , accepting of their "present" limitations, and more importantly of something beyond their total comprehension that does possess great wisdom and power and reveals its resurective, regenerative and benevolent activitys to them in stages at the directly personal level
But there is always one vital component that is missing from any persons perception of a "written description of transformation" and that vital component is the actual "alteration of the psychic landscape" that is only possible through the ongoing mergence of time and experience on the psyche
That is why it is never possible to completly understand what someone has written regarding dynamic changing experience unless a person has actually encountered similar experience , and that is not possible, because everyone experiences phenomena in subtle differing tones of perception even when all the input data seems constant, because every single perception includes portions of external input data plus the projection of the individual onto that data which makes it unique to the self at any given moment , that uniqueness only suffering when an individual has had their imagination compromised through conditioning and then they can in fact begin to become predictable to a degree of understanding .
So in conclusion, steiners piece suggests that by living a certain way, a person can evolve ethically (make value choices) that do increase their appreciation of their existence to such an extent, that they become more an more willing to help others do the same .
This suggests that what is changed in a person, is their quality of appreciation and feelings which is something that can not be purchased with any money and also is something that from a lesser point of appreciation and feeling does not seem to present any worthwhile pursuit .
So heaven is disguised firstly in something that cannot be predicted or comprehended by current thoughts, that is because new feelings have their thoughts come later , and secondly, this heaven requires a certain faith to pursue it, because of this obstacle to intellectual thought .
Faith is a form of feeling intelligence that affects a persons actions and choices which then affect how existence unwinds for them
To attempt to identify a direct route to heaven through the intellectual thought , is a work that will forever find its target elusive , because heaven is contained in feeling , but thoughts can be great guardians and guides to the aquasition and retainment of that feeling
And just as Gold emits a seduction on the physical level of perceptions , so does this quality of feeling emit a level of seduction through the psychic level of communications.
That is why a meglamaniac billionaire with everything money can buy, with women/men circling his/her feet, will forever remain in acute frustration , because although he/she sees with his/her own eyes that they have attained everything that they possibly could, and others tell him/her this also, they still retain a deep empty feeling inside, that cannot gain satisfaction, that is because, that feeling is still undeveloped, it can never be forced to develop , it can only develop through certain authentic experience , and until that development takes place, it will forever torment them , a cry from within which will be re-inforced every time they are in the presence of something they deem beautiful, like a woman, they may have sex with her, but that feeling wont be satisfied, because it is much more than sex although it can also be captured for a moment right there in sex as it can in intimate personal communication , its just a feeling , but its so potent that it can drive one into hell or pull one into heaven
In simple perceptions of this illustration, they move from one level of rebellious slavery in earthly consciousness hell to another form of slavery in earthly consciousness heaven , but in heaven, they become a completly willing slave , accepting of their "present" limitations, and more importantly of something beyond their total comprehension that does possess great wisdom and power and reveals its resurective, regenerative and benevolent activitys to them in stages at the directly personal level
But there is always one vital component that is missing from any persons perception of a "written description of transformation" and that vital component is the actual "alteration of the psychic landscape" that is only possible through the ongoing mergence of time and experience on the psyche
That is why it is never possible to completly understand what someone has written regarding dynamic changing experience unless a person has actually encountered similar experience , and that is not possible, because everyone experiences phenomena in subtle differing tones of perception even when all the input data seems constant, because every single perception includes portions of external input data plus the projection of the individual onto that data which makes it unique to the self at any given moment , that uniqueness only suffering when an individual has had their imagination compromised through conditioning and then they can in fact begin to become predictable to a degree of understanding .
So in conclusion, steiners piece suggests that by living a certain way, a person can evolve ethically (make value choices) that do increase their appreciation of their existence to such an extent, that they become more an more willing to help others do the same .
This suggests that what is changed in a person, is their quality of appreciation and feelings which is something that can not be purchased with any money and also is something that from a lesser point of appreciation and feeling does not seem to present any worthwhile pursuit .
So heaven is disguised firstly in something that cannot be predicted or comprehended by current thoughts, that is because new feelings have their thoughts come later , and secondly, this heaven requires a certain faith to pursue it, because of this obstacle to intellectual thought .
Faith is a form of feeling intelligence that affects a persons actions and choices which then affect how existence unwinds for them
To attempt to identify a direct route to heaven through the intellectual thought , is a work that will forever find its target elusive , because heaven is contained in feeling , but thoughts can be great guardians and guides to the aquasition and retainment of that feeling
And just as Gold emits a seduction on the physical level of perceptions , so does this quality of feeling emit a level of seduction through the psychic level of communications.
That is why a meglamaniac billionaire with everything money can buy, with women/men circling his/her feet, will forever remain in acute frustration , because although he/she sees with his/her own eyes that they have attained everything that they possibly could, and others tell him/her this also, they still retain a deep empty feeling inside, that cannot gain satisfaction, that is because, that feeling is still undeveloped, it can never be forced to develop , it can only develop through certain authentic experience , and until that development takes place, it will forever torment them , a cry from within which will be re-inforced every time they are in the presence of something they deem beautiful, like a woman, they may have sex with her, but that feeling wont be satisfied, because it is much more than sex although it can also be captured for a moment right there in sex as it can in intimate personal communication , its just a feeling , but its so potent that it can drive one into hell or pull one into heaven
Re: Freestyling
Material gain makes us "heavy", that is, our perception of it's purpose does..
Since I can remember I was interested in consciousness itself, as we expereince difficulties with language comming short of explanations regarding terms such as heaven and hell, even awareness: it cannot be explained or transported through words. It seems to reside in
a level unspeakable of.
Let's look at a child and it's behavior. We can all recall a child and it's toys, maybe even our own toys and behaviour from childhood.
A child's conscciousness displays itself in the most natural way and it is actually perceivable.
When a child get's a new toy it wanted for a long time it can emmerge in playing with it in the most fanatical ways. Nothing else exists anymore. Some parents try to surpress this kind of fanatical attachment, but no matter what they say, the child may even sleep while clutching it's hands around the toy. Then, suddenly, one day the child discards the toy and it ends up lying loney in the rooms corner, never to be acknowledged again. What happened?
The child has comprehended everything about the object and it's function there was to be discovered. It knows the toy from the inside out, it is fully aware of all it's aspects and therefore the childs consciousness has expanded to the point of were it now wants to move on to the next toy until one day it mostly leaves all the toys behind. it wasn't due to concerned parents trying to get their child to act less extreme, but because the child expanded it's consciousness in the natural way, a function of life that works all by itself. Children are naturally able to intellectualize their experiences in the non verbal way. Only as we get onlder are we driven to conceptualize everything surrounding us and naming things becomes a obstacle to our further progress, such is the power of the overemphasize on language as being the core of consciousness. Dolphins are not intelligent because they "speak" to each other and give themselfs a personal name...it is not in the personal name, but the fact that they are conscious of themselfs that allows them to name themselfs individually...and they use the personal names for practical reasons. And I think there is no other reason for names besides the practical aspect of communication. The source of consciousness is beyond the description. Therefore I would think heaven and hell to be names for places that correspond to our consciousness residence, places that we know through experience, no matter on which existantial plane we happen to exist on.
Does that makes sense?
Since I can remember I was interested in consciousness itself, as we expereince difficulties with language comming short of explanations regarding terms such as heaven and hell, even awareness: it cannot be explained or transported through words. It seems to reside in
a level unspeakable of.
Let's look at a child and it's behavior. We can all recall a child and it's toys, maybe even our own toys and behaviour from childhood.
A child's conscciousness displays itself in the most natural way and it is actually perceivable.
When a child get's a new toy it wanted for a long time it can emmerge in playing with it in the most fanatical ways. Nothing else exists anymore. Some parents try to surpress this kind of fanatical attachment, but no matter what they say, the child may even sleep while clutching it's hands around the toy. Then, suddenly, one day the child discards the toy and it ends up lying loney in the rooms corner, never to be acknowledged again. What happened?
The child has comprehended everything about the object and it's function there was to be discovered. It knows the toy from the inside out, it is fully aware of all it's aspects and therefore the childs consciousness has expanded to the point of were it now wants to move on to the next toy until one day it mostly leaves all the toys behind. it wasn't due to concerned parents trying to get their child to act less extreme, but because the child expanded it's consciousness in the natural way, a function of life that works all by itself. Children are naturally able to intellectualize their experiences in the non verbal way. Only as we get onlder are we driven to conceptualize everything surrounding us and naming things becomes a obstacle to our further progress, such is the power of the overemphasize on language as being the core of consciousness. Dolphins are not intelligent because they "speak" to each other and give themselfs a personal name...it is not in the personal name, but the fact that they are conscious of themselfs that allows them to name themselfs individually...and they use the personal names for practical reasons. And I think there is no other reason for names besides the practical aspect of communication. The source of consciousness is beyond the description. Therefore I would think heaven and hell to be names for places that correspond to our consciousness residence, places that we know through experience, no matter on which existantial plane we happen to exist on.
Does that makes sense?
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Regarding the toy analogy relating to the initial development of the childs consciousness, i can expand on that , yes the child has extracted all the juice from the toy over a duration of time , so that the juice from the toy has been extracted not once but many times over many days and nights
The child been guided by its inner feelings, is seduced by the toy , then possesses the toy, this is the "In love Period" then slowly but surely, one day that toy loses its allure, is "rejected" and the child moves on , a first lesson in love , plays out its course, the spectrum of this process is absolutely always proportional to the childs emotional sensitivity and intellectual awareness.
Awaken emotional sensitivity or / and intellectual awareness and the spectrum of the love experience is altered.
The child may go through more toys , also books and films then people, friends, lovers , the same basic formula may continue to repeat itself, seduction , possesion, rejection and move on
A young child has a very limited way of affecting these early toys, they just have a subconscious/conscious love attachment to them which has a finite spell of relationship for them unttil they have sucked out all the juice they need or can handle at that time , then they move on
BUt once the toy changes to a book or film or other person, some children still follow through the same process , first lesson of love, till the grave, and go there with a tormented feeling deep inside
BUt others begin to realise that the relationship of love is completly dependent , alterable and its processional, educational purpose revealed by the development of their emotional and intellectual awareness (wisdom)
The ego likes to kick in at the possession phase and mess around in the consciousness creating a barrier to wisdom with great seductions of its own , in the interests of doing its job, protecting the social persona .
Oh yes i agree with thee here
And theres many more expansions that can come from the toystory, regarding the obsessions, desires, authority controls , intuition, identifying aithentic feeling guides , self-realization of these and much more
The child been guided by its inner feelings, is seduced by the toy , then possesses the toy, this is the "In love Period" then slowly but surely, one day that toy loses its allure, is "rejected" and the child moves on , a first lesson in love , plays out its course, the spectrum of this process is absolutely always proportional to the childs emotional sensitivity and intellectual awareness.
Awaken emotional sensitivity or / and intellectual awareness and the spectrum of the love experience is altered.
The child may go through more toys , also books and films then people, friends, lovers , the same basic formula may continue to repeat itself, seduction , possesion, rejection and move on
A young child has a very limited way of affecting these early toys, they just have a subconscious/conscious love attachment to them which has a finite spell of relationship for them unttil they have sucked out all the juice they need or can handle at that time , then they move on
BUt once the toy changes to a book or film or other person, some children still follow through the same process , first lesson of love, till the grave, and go there with a tormented feeling deep inside
BUt others begin to realise that the relationship of love is completly dependent , alterable and its processional, educational purpose revealed by the development of their emotional and intellectual awareness (wisdom)
The ego likes to kick in at the possession phase and mess around in the consciousness creating a barrier to wisdom with great seductions of its own , in the interests of doing its job, protecting the social persona .
Therefore I would think heaven and hell to be names for places that correspond to our consciousness residence, places that we know through experience, no matter on which existantial plane we happen to exist on.
Oh yes i agree with thee here
And theres many more expansions that can come from the toystory, regarding the obsessions, desires, authority controls , intuition, identifying aithentic feeling guides , self-realization of these and much more
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