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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Wed 23 Jan 2013, 23:30

The guy interviewing Albright is excellent at his job.
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Post  KapitanScarlet Thu 24 Jan 2013, 01:15

Nuclear Fairy Tale on Iran

Dr Tom Fin­gar, headed up the 2007 US National Intel­li­gence Estim­ate on Iran. He col­lated the offi­cial assess­ments of all 16 of America’s intel­li­gence agen­cies, which unan­im­ously assessed that Iran had ceased try­ing to build a nuc­lear weapon in 2003. This evidence-based ana­lysis made it impossible for the Bush admin­is­tra­tion to push through its plans to launch a war against Iran in 2008. This ARTICLE ex-CIA ana­lyst Ray McGov­ern explains Dr Fingar’s achieve­ments
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Fri 25 Jan 2013, 03:33

Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Does China Plan To Establish 'China Cities' And 'Special Economic Zones' All Over America?
Michael Snyder, Contributor
Activist Post

What in the world is China up to? Over the past several years, the Chinese government and large Chinese corporations (which are often at least partially owned by the government) have been systematically buying up businesses, homes, farmland, real estate, infrastructure and natural resources all over America. In some cases, China appears to be attempting to purchase entire communities in one fell swoop. So why is this happening? Is this some form of "economic colonization" that is taking place?

Some have speculated that China may be intending to establish "special economic zones" inside the United States modeled after the very successful Chinese city of Shenzhen. Back in the 1970s, Shenzhen was just a very small fishing village, but now it is a sprawling metropolis of over 14 million people. Initially, these "special economic zones" were only established within China, but now the Chinese government has been buying huge tracts of land in foreign countries such as Nigeria and establishing special economic zones in those nations. So could such a thing actually happen in America?

Well, according to Dr. Jerome Corsi, a plan being pushed by the Chinese Central Bank would set up "development zones" in the United States that would allow China to "establish Chinese-owned businesses and bring in its citizens to the U.S. to work." Under the plan, some of the $1.17 trillion that the U.S. owes China would be converted from debt to "equity". As a result, "China would own U.S. businesses, U.S. infrastructure and U.S. high-value land, all with a U.S. government guarantee against loss." Does all of this sound far-fetched? Well, it isn't. In fact, the economic colonization of America is already far more advanced than most Americans would dare to imagine.

So how in the world did we get to this point? A few decades ago, the United States was the unchallenged economic powerhouse of the world and China was essentially a third world country. So what happened?

Well, we entered into a whole bunch of extremely unfavorable "free trade" agreements, and countries such as China began to aggressively use "free trade" as an economic weapon against us.

Over the past decade, we have lost tens of thousands of businesses and millions of jobs to China. When the final numbers for 2012 come out, our trade deficit with China for the year will be well over 300 billion dollars, and that will be the largest trade deficit that one country has had with another country in the history of the world.

Overall, the U.S. has run a trade deficit with China over the past decade that comes to more than 2.3 trillion dollars. That 2.3 trillion dollars could have gone to U.S. businesses and U.S. workers, and in turn taxes would have been paid on all of that money. But instead, all of that money went to China.

Rather than just sitting on all of that money, China has been lending much of it back to us - at interest. We now owe China more than a trillion dollars, and our politicians are constantly pleading with China to lend more money to us so that we can finance our exploding debt.

Today, the U.S. government pays China approximately 100 million dollars a day in interest on the debt that we owe them. Those that say that the U.S. debt "does not matter" are being incredibly foolish.

So thanks to our massive trade deficit and our exploding national debt, China is systematically getting wealthier and the United States is systematically getting poorer.

And now China is starting to use a lot of that wealth to aggressively expand their power and influence around the globe.

But isn't it more than a bit far-fetched to suggest that China may be planning to establish Chinese cities and special economic zones in America?

Not really.

Just look at what has already happened up in Canada. It is well-known that the Chinese population of Vancouver, Canada has absolutely exploded in recent years. In fact, the Vancouver suburb of Richmond is now approximately half Chinese. The following is an excerpt from a BBC article...

Richmond is North America's most Asian city - 50% of residents here identify themselves as Chinese. But it's not just here that the Chinese community in British Columbia (BC) - some 407,000 strong - has left its mark. All across Vancouver, Chinese-Canadians have helped shape the local landscape.

A similar thing is happening in many communities along the west coast of the United States. In fact, Chinese citizens purchased one out of every ten homes that were sold in the state of California in 2011.

But in other areas of the United States, the Chinese are approaching things much more systematically.

For example, as I have written about previously, a Chinese group identified as "Sino-Michigan Properties LLC" has purchased 200 acres of land near the town of Milan, Michigan. Their stated goal is to build a "China City" that has artificial lakes, a Chinese cultural center and hundreds of housing units for Chinese citizens.

In other instances, large chunks of real estate in major U.S. cities that are down on their luck are being snapped up by Chinese investors. Just check out what a Fortune article from a while back says has been happening over in Toledo, Ohio...

In March 2011, Chinese investors paid $2.15 million cash for a restaurant complex on the Maumee River in Toledo, Ohio. Soon they put down another $3.8 million on 69 acres of newly decontaminated land in the city's Marina District, promising to invest $200 million in a new residential-commercial development. That September, another Chinese firm spent $3 million for an aging hotel across a nearby bridge with a view of the minor league ballpark.

Toledo is being promoted to Chinese investors as a "5-star logistics region". From Toledo it is very easy to get to Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Columbus and Indianapolis...

With a population of 287,000, Toledo is only the fourth largest city in Ohio, but it lies at the junction of two important highways -- I-75 and I-80/90. My vision is to make Toledo a true international city, Toledo's Mayor Mike Bell told the Toledo Blade.

But some of these deals appear to be about far more than just making "investments". According to the Idaho Statesman, a Chinese company known as Sinomach (which is actually controlled by the Chinese government) was actually interested in developing a 50 square mile self-sustaining "technology zone" south of the Boise airport...

A Chinese national company is interested in developing a 10,000- to 30,000-acre technology zone for industry, retail centers and homes south of the Boise Airport.

Officials of the China National Machinery Industry Corp. have broached the idea — based on a concept popular in China today — to city and state leaders.

The article suggested that this "technology zone" would be modeled after similar projects that already exist in China, and that Chinese officials were conducting similar negotiations with other U.S. states as well...

Sinomach is not looking only at Idaho.

The company sent delegations to Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania this year to talk about setting up research and development bases and industrial parks. It has an interest in electric transmission projects and alternative energy as well.

The technology zone proposal follows a model of science, technology and industrial parks in China — often fully contained cities with all services included.

Thankfully the deal in Idaho appears to be stalled for now, but could we soon see China establish special economic zones in other communities all around America?

The Chinese certainly do seem to be laying the groundwork for something. They have been voraciously gobbling up important infrastructure all over the country. The following comes from a recent American Free Press article...

In addition to already owning vital ports in Long Beach, Calif. and Boston, Mass., the China Ocean Shipping Company is eyeing major ports on the East Coast and Gulf of Mexico. China also owns access to ports at the entry and exit points of the Panama Canal.

And due to fiscal woes plaguing many American cities and states, U.S. legislators have been actively seeking out Chinese investors. In one of the worst cases, Baton Rouge, La., Mayor Kip Holden offered the Chinese government ownership and operating rights to a new toll way system if the Chinese would provide the funding to build it.

Does it make sense for the Chinese to own some of our most important ports?

Isn't there a national security risk?

Sadly, there isn't much of anything that our politicians won't sell these days as long as someone is willing to flash a lot of cash.

The Chinese have also been busy buying up important real estate on the east coast as a recent Forbes article explained….

According to a recent report in the New York Times, investors from China are 'snapping up luxury apartments' and are planning to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on commercial and residential projects like Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn. Chinese companies also have signed major leases at the Empire State Building and at 1 World Trade Center, the report said.

But it is not only just land and infrastructure that the Chinese have been buying up.
They have also been purchasing rights to vital oil and natural gas deposits all over the United States.

There have been two Chinese companies that have been primarily involved in this effort.
The first is the China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC). According to Wikipedia, CNOOC is 100 percent owned by the Chinese government…

CNOOC Group is a state-owned oil company, fully owned by the Government of the People’s Republic of China, and the State-Owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission of the State Council (SASAC) performs the rights and obligations of shareholder on behalf of the government.

The second is Sinopec Corporation. Sinopec Group is the largest shareholder (approx. 75% ownership) in Sinopec Corporation. And as the Sinopec website tells us, Sinopec Group is fully owned by the Chinese government…

Sinopec Group, the largest shareholder of Sinopec Corp., is a super-large petroleum and petrochemical group incorporated by the State in 1998 based on the former China Petrochemical Corporation. Funded by the State, it is a State authorized investment arm and State-owned controlling company.

So whenever you see CNOOC or Sinopec, you can replace those names with the Chinese government. The Chinese government essentially runs both of those companies.

And as you can see from the following list compiled by the Wall Street Journal, those two companies have been extremely aggressive in buying up rights to oil and natural gas all over the nation...

Colorado: Cnooc gained a one-third stake in 800,000 acres in northeast Colorado and southeast Wyoming in a $1.27 billion pact with Chesapeake Energy Corp.

Louisiana: Sinopec has a one-third interest in 265,000 acres in the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale after a broader $2.5-billion deal with Devon Energy.

Michigan: Sinopec gained a one-third interest in 350,000 acres in a larger $2.5 billion deal with Devon Energy.

Ohio: Sinopec acquired a one-third stake in Devon Energy’s 235,000 Utica Shale acres in a larger $2.5 billion deal.

Oklahoma: Sinopec has a one-third interest in 215,000 acres in a broader $2.5 billion deal with Devon Energy.

Texas: Cnooc acquired a one-third interest in Chesapeake Energy’s 600,000 acres in the Eagle Ford Shale in a $2.16-billion deal.

Wyoming: Cnooc has a one-third stake in 800,000 acres in northeast Colorado and southeast Wyoming after a $1.27 billion pact with Chesapeake Energy. Sinopec gained a one-third interest in Devon Energy’s 320,000 acres as part of a larger $2.5 billion deal.

Gulf of Mexico: Cnooc Ltd. separately acquired minority stakes in some of Statoil ASA’s leases as well as six of Nexen Inc.’s deep-water wells.

So why is the U.S. government allowing this? That is a very good question. For a nation that purports to be pursuing "energy independence", we sure do have a funny way of going about things.

Unfortunately, the sad truth is that China is absolutely mopping the floor with the United States on the global economic stage. China is rising and America is in an advanced state of decline. Global economic power has shifted dramatically and most Americans still don't understand what has happened.

The following are 44 more signs of how dominant the economy of China has become...

1. A Chinese firm recently made a $2.6 billion offer to buy movie theater chain AMC.

2. A different Chinese firm made a $1.8 billion offer to buy aircraft maker Hawker Beechcraft.

3. In December it was announced that a Chinese group would be purchasing AIG's plane leasing unit for $4.23 billion.

4. It was recently announced that the Federal Reserve will now allow Chinese banks to buy up American banks.

5. A $190 million bridge project up in Alaska was awarded to a Chinese firm.

6. A $400 million contract to renovate the Alexander Hamilton bridge in New York was awarded to a Chinese firm.

7. A $7.2 billion contract to construct a new bridge between San Francisco and Oakland was awarded to a Chinese firm.

8. The uniforms for the U.S. Olympic team were made in China.

9. 85 percent of all artificial Christmas trees are made in China.

10. The new World Trade Center tower is going to include glass that has been imported from China.

11. The new Martin Luther King memorial on the National Mall was made in China.

12. In 2001, American consumers spent 102 billion dollars on products made in China. In 2011, American consumers spent 399 billion dollars on products made in China.

13. The United States spends about 4 dollars on goods and services from China for every one dollar that China spends on goods and services from the United States.

14. According to the New York Times, a Jeep Grand Cherokee that costs $27,490 in the United States costs about $85,000 in China thanks to all the tariffs.

15. The Chinese economy has grown 7 times faster than the U.S. economy has over the past decade.

16. The United States has lost a staggering 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs since the year 2000.

17. The United States has lost an average of 50,000 manufacturing jobs per month since China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001.

18. Overall, the United States has lost a total of more than 56,000 manufacturing facilities since 2001.

19. According to the Economic Policy Institute, America is losing half a million jobs to China every single year.

20. Between December 2000 and December 2010, 38 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Ohio were lost, 42 percent of the manufacturing jobs in North Carolina were lost and 48 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Michigan were lost.

21. In 2010, China produced more than twice as many automobiles as the United States did.

22. Since the auto industry bailout, approximately 70 percent of all GM vehicles have been built outside the United States.

23. After being bailed out by U.S. taxpayers, General Motors is currently involved in 11 joint ventures with companies owned by the Chinese government. The price for entering into many of these “joint ventures” was a transfer of “state of the art technology” from General Motors to the communist Chinese.

24. Back in 1998, the United States had 25 percent of the world’s high-tech export market and China had just 10 percent. Ten years later, the United States had less than 15 percent and China’s share had soared to 20 percent.

25. The United States has lost more than a quarter of all of its high-tech manufacturing jobs over the past ten years.

26. China’s number one export to the U.S. is computer equipment.

27. The number one U.S. export to China is "scrap and trash".

28. The U.S. trade deficit with China is now more than 28 times larger than it was back in 1990.

29. Back in 1985, the U.S. trade deficit with China was just 6 million dollars for the entire year. For the month of November 2012 alone, the U.S. trade deficit with China was 28.9 billion dollars.

30. China now consumes more energy than the United States does.

31. China is now the leading manufacturer of goods in the entire world.

32. China uses more cement than the rest of the world combined.

33. China is now the number one producer of wind and solar power on the entire globe.

34. Today, China produces nearly twice as much beer as the United States does.

35. Right now, China is producing more than three times as much coal as the United States does.

36. China now produces 11 times as much steel as the United States does.

37. China produces more than 90 percent of the global supply of rare earth elements.

38. China is now the number one supplier of components that are critical to the operation of U.S. defense systems.

39. A recent investigation by the U.S. Senate Committee on Armed Services found more than one million counterfeit Chinese parts in the Department of Defense supply chain.

40. 15 years ago, China was 14th in the world in published scientific research articles. But now, China is expected to pass the United States and become number one very shortly.

41. China now awards more doctoral degrees in engineering each year than the United States does
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42. According to one study, the Chinese economy already has roughly the same amount of purchasing power as the U.S. economy does.

43. According to the IMF, China will pass the United States and will become the largest economy in the world in 2016.

44. Nobel economist Robert W. Fogel of the University of Chicago is projecting that the Chinese economy will be three times larger than the U.S. economy by the year 2040 if current trends continue.
Without the "globalization" of the world economy, none of this would have ever happened. But instead of admitting our mistakes and fixing them, our politicians continue to press for even more "free trade" and even more integration with communist nations such as China.

In fact, according to Dr. Jerome Corsi, the U.S. government has already set up 257 "foreign trade zones" all over America. These "foreign trade zones" are apparently given "special U.S. customs treatment" and are used to promote "free trade"…

Corsi noted that the U.S. government has created 257 foreign trade zones, or FTZs, throughout the United States, designed to extend special U.S. customs treatment to U.S. plants engaged in international-trade-related activities.

The FTZs tend to be located near airports, with easy access into the continental NAFTA and WTO multi-modal transportation systems being created to move free-trade goods cheaply, quickly and efficiently throughout the continent of North America.

There is nothing in the U.S. government’s description of FTZs that would prevent a foreign government, like China, from operating a shell U.S. company that is in reality owned and financed by the Chinese government and operated through a Chinese government-owned corporation, Corsi wrote.

Sadly, we are probably going to see a whole lot more of this in the years ahead.

According to Corsi, a professor of economics at Tsighua University in Beijing named Yu Qiao has suggested the following plan as a way to transform the debt that the United States owes China into something more "tangible"...

China would negotiate with the U.S. government to create a “crisis relief facility,” or CRF. The CRF “would be used alongside U.S. federal efforts to stabilize the banking system and to invest in capital-intensive infrastructure projects such as high-speed railroad from Boston to Washington, D.C.
China would pool a portion of its holdings of Treasury bonds under the CRF umbrella to convert sovereign debt into equity. Any CRF funds that were designated for investment in U.S. corporations would still be owned and managed by U.S. equity holders, with the Asians holding minority equity shares “that would, like preferred stock, be convertible.”
The U.S. government would act as a guarantor, “providing a sovereign guarantee scheme to assure the investment principal of the CRF against possible default of targeted companies or projects”.
The Federal Reserve would set up a special account to supply the liquidity the CRF would require to swap sovereign debt into industrial investment in the United States.

Apparently the Bank of China really likes this plan and would like to see something like this implemented.

In the years ahead, perhaps many of you will end up working in a "special economic zone" for a Chinese company on a project that is being financially guaranteed by the U.S. government.

If that sounds like a form of slavery to you, the truth is that you are probably not too far off the mark.

The borrower is the servant of the lender, and we should have never allowed ourselves to get into so much debt.

Now we will pay the price.

To get an idea of how much the world has changed in recent years, just check out this incredible photo which contrasts the decline of Detroit over the years with the amazing rise of Shanghai, China.

Things did not have to turn out this way. Unfortunately, we made decades of incredibly foolish decisions and we wrecked the greatest economic machine that the world has ever seen.

Now the future for America looks really bleak.

TGII, for the sake of doing business and commerce would it be better for me to learn Mandarin or Cantonese?
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Post  tgII Fri 25 Jan 2013, 08:34

re: Chinese economic industrial zones

Neither, retain English and expose these Chinese economic industrial zones. I did a
search today and was astounded to find one of these Chinese economic areas being
set up in Syria in Hama Province, Syria.



A thorough researcher that shares information with me shared this about these
industrial zones being built by the Chinese.

    In all countries, the concept of these zones is being marketed on the idea of foreign direct investment and job creation. The way it works is that the development (including infrastructure) creates a boom (and debt) and when the development is complete and the developers leave, the economy crashes.


Here is a diagram of how it ties together.

    Here is a diagram I did that shows the picture based on my analysis of how they work. [Chinese industrial zones] This diagram doesn't show the fusion centers nor does it show the consoles for the controls of critical infrastructure, but I do believe they will be there. I have another diagram someplace that shows it - probably in a powerpoint.


    World War 3 Speculation - Page 2 FTZ_FDI_Principalities


Have a look at this, one of these zones right in the middle of Benghazi, Libya where
American Ambassador Christopher Stevens was taken out.


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Post  Sputnik Sun 27 Jan 2013, 01:12

So far no country has ever crashed because of chinese investments, but plenty thru anglo american financial interests,
correct me if I am wrong about it.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo Sun 27 Jan 2013, 02:02

No you are not wrong about that...history.
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Post  Sputnik Sun 27 Jan 2013, 13:32

There are indications that the powers that be know 'something is about to happen' in or with the USA..


biggest bankrun [$114.1 billion] since 9/11:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-23/u-s-deposits-post-biggest-drop-since-9-11-as-fdic-ends-support.html

A panicky mega-goldrun, countries getting the jitters, want their gold reserves to be repatriated asap:

http://investmentwatchblog.com/gold-bank-run-accelerating-first-venezuela-then-germany-the-netherlands-and-now-switzerland-want-their-gold-back-bundesbank-the-gold-repatriation-is-without-doubt-preempti/


What ever it is -- it's going to be big and nasty.
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Post  tgII Mon 28 Jan 2013, 01:04

    So far no country has ever crashed because of chinese investments, but plenty thru anglo american financial interests, correct me if I am wrong about it.


Actually, that would take a bit more consideration since China hasn't been investing
heavily in countries long enough to make their investments pay off or bring long term
stability to any country. That remains to be seen.
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Post  tgII Mon 28 Jan 2013, 06:38

re: Henry Kissinger speaks, and when Henry speaks, people usually get killed

The ante has just been raised. Henry threatens Iran.

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Post  tgII Wed 30 Jan 2013, 09:43

re: WWIII asymmetrical war has already started

At least according to Wayne Madsen.

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Post  tgII Sun 03 Feb 2013, 22:40

re: U.S. Military members and veterans self-destructing

If those statistics are at all accurate that would average out to 8,030 suicides a
year.

A culture of death is an under statement while considering the worship of guns in
American culture (there is no culture really). War veterans return from Afghanistan
and Iraq (the recently murdered American military sniper Chris Kyle) and
because there is no employment available, go into security related "careers" selling
their military experience in security and with guns. Is there not something perverse
about this idea?
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Post  tgII Fri 22 Feb 2013, 04:09

re: this thread for WWIII speculation

Britain just announced it will redirect billions in British Pounds from humanitarian aid
into military spending for the British Army.



Then, France invades Mali to reconquer their colony for resources, and it is now
alleged, to showcase France's newest fighter jet the Rafale being used extensively in
Mali to bomb mud hut dwellers and peasants armed with pitch forks.

The reason for demonstrating the Rafale's capability to India because France is about
to finalize what is reputedly the biggest military aviation deal in history, centered on
the Rafale.



Weapons and armament in the trillions of dollars. Most of humanity doesn't stand a
chance against the technological sophistication being placed in front of them.
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Post  tgII Wed 27 Feb 2013, 01:29

re: not certain of a "WWIII" per se, but pressure is being exerted at all levels in
the region


Economic sanctions against Iran continue. Eventually there will be confrontation
between Israel and Iran as the proxy war against Syria being fueled by Israel
to a large extent continues to grind on.

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Post  tgII Wed 27 Feb 2013, 01:56

re: the constantly threatening posture of the U.S. re: Israel

The threats keep coming. This time with President Obama threatening bombing
Iran in June. The Israelis are "reporting" this. What are Americans reporting or
does Israel decide "American foreign policy?"

Quote: "A window of opportunity will open in June."

Again, Iran and the nuclear weapon threat. That's posturing for war.

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Post  tgII Thu 28 Feb 2013, 01:34

re: as always the UK posturing for war against Iran

The never ending cycle of the nuclear bomb threat being developed by Iran.

Always posturing for war against Iran.

    Iran's 'Plan B' for a nuclear bomb

    [Feb. 26, 2013] Iran is developing a second path [second path? according to who?] to a nuclear weapons capability by operating a plant that could ["could" is posturing] produce plutonium, satellite images show for the first time. [where are the satellite images? can I see them please? first time? really?]

    The Telegraph can disclose details [details? this is called "details" after reading the article? you're joking right?] of activity at a heavily-guarded Iranian facility from which international inspectors have been barred [and the Israelis bar all outside inspections of the Negev Nuclear Research Center outside Dimona and this is acceptable?] for 18 months. The images, taken earlier this month, show that Iran has activated the Arak heavy-water production [it was the British that delivered to Israel that country's nuclear capability with heavy-water production technology] plant. Heavy water is needed to operate a nuclear reactor that can ["can" is posturing] produce plutonium, which could then be used to make a bomb. The images show signs of activity at the Arak plant, including a cloud of steam that indicates heavy-water production. [really, how does the non-technical layman know this? do we just go on the Telegraph's word?]


Building the "evidence" at Arak. And American, Russian and Israel facilitates are not as
heavily defended? So, Iran protects sensitive facilities against potential attack and this
is somehow an untenable situation?

Arak is the same location mentioned above in the hyper-linked Telegraph article.

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Post  tgII Tue 05 Mar 2013, 09:16

re: almost as if the world is on some kind of timeline of pre-determined events

This has appeared elsewhere over the months but shows up again. Constant political
posturing and bashing back-and-forth until we're blue in the face while people look
on scratching their heads wondering to themselves when the green toggle switches
get pulled on the consoles for the missiles?

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Post  tgII Tue 05 Mar 2013, 09:31

re: here's a real treat: Vice President Joseph Biden threatening everyone

Apparently, the "president is not bluffing?" Bluffing? About what? A war on Iran?

March 4, 2013.

Notice the morale high ground: "Our desire is for diplomatic solution...." Diplomatic
solution? Does "diplomatic solution" also include American military personnel and
American mercenaries in Jordan training foreign Jihadi terrorist mercenaries to
destabilize Syria ultimately to bring Iran down?

Looks like a "window is closing." Window? And if that "window" does close then
what? War?

Biden states: "Thee is still time and space to achieve the outcome..." Outcome? And
what might that be? Why does Joe Biden allegedly speaking for Americans - he
doesn't - make declarations against Iran in this double speak language?

Biden is threatening Iran and posturing for conflict always using the morale high
ground. This trait in their speech is like clock work.



This is entertaining. It is almost absurdly comical. Like watching Saturday Night Live.

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Post  tgII Thu 21 Mar 2013, 10:53

re: we are arcing in closer and closer to WWIII

The nihilists are winning and are vectoring humanity towards WWIII.
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Post  tgII Mon 25 Mar 2013, 21:15

re: careening towards WWIII and this is all of a sudden becoming all too real

Note particularly how they are called "chiefs." This is a "historic" meeting. Why are
they meeting and it isn't likely we'll ever know, but whatever it is for we're going to
be on the receiving end.

Maybe they'll do the right thing: arrest criminals in their respective governments
that are running criminal syndicates for their own personal gain demonstrating to
Russia, China, India and Brazil they "are in control."

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Post  tgII Tue 26 Mar 2013, 22:13

re the nuclear armed Iran meme continues to be pushed

And the west along with Israel keep pushing and pushing the threat. This psychopathic
elite are relentless at pushing the world to the brink of destruction.



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Post  KapitanScarlet Thu 02 May 2013, 01:05

Instead of WW3 , i think more likely is expansion of ISAF = International Security Assistance Force currently operating in afghanistan and cxontrolled by NATO , the first time nato has actively operated outside the north atlantic region

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The NATO RUSSIAN COUNCIL was established in 2002 , and there are ever growing links of admin and deep infrastructures between russia and NATO = they are bed partners

In 2003 , the campaign against iraq was started by an entity calling itself "The Coalition" led by the demonics bush and blair , Who the xxck were the coalition , do they still exist ?

Nato has an ever expanding civil dept as well , maybe at some point in the future, something will have to give between Nato and the current impotent united nations , maybe a new amalgamation will arise

Currently , the ongoing movement of individual countries assets into private / plc corporate ownership goes on , and all signs for me point towards a world situation developing very very similar to whats portrayed in the film ROLLERBALL

Countries will merely be references on a map , power will flow from world corporate hands which will be multi-national
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Post  tgII Thu 02 May 2013, 02:32

That's what I think as well, Kapitan, a gradual merger of NATO and Russian interests.
This might be why Russia is playing such a relatively quite role in the events happening
in Syria although a Russian naval fleet is parked off the coast of Syria.

Few who really think well have little need for the UN any longer, essentially a
burdensome disorganized massive wasteful bureaucracy. In fact, the UN Security
Council members don't have a clue on any intelligence or facts concerning alleged
use of chemical weapons in Syria.

The continuing process of moving resources and their control into the hands of
privateers and pirates continues and is done so under the cover and veneer of nation-
states.

Perhaps related, Kapitan:

Professor Vinay Lal has what seem to be brilliant insights yet common sense really on
how to interpret the results of nation-states. In principal, civilizations are much richer
entities than nation-states. Corporations protected by the veneer and cover of nation-
states supported by a horrific and abysmally ignorant population (academic tyranny/
imperialism) have made civilizations and culture obsolete.

Vinay Lal uses France as an example of the creation of a nation state through violence.
France's colonization of Africa and Syria. Vinay Lal asserts that as late as 1830 to 1840,
the vast majority of people living in what is now France did not speak French. Vinay Lal
then asks the question: "How were these people turned into the French men?" Through
violence. The nation-state produces a certain homogenous subject who then has to pay
loyalty to the nation-state, the national anthem, the national flag and of course
textbooks.

Think Israel: that is a terrifying thought. The nation-state of Israel as a synthetic
corporate creation based on commerce verses the current ascendent Iranian civilization
of the Fatimid Crescent. We're in deep doo doo on this coming clash. Syria is a prelude
and as violent as this proxy war on Syria is turning out to be, a war with Iran will be the
epitome of hell on earth.

What entities for example within France determine what that nation-state is? Oligarchic
Talmudic families with a history of sexual abuse and criminal pedophilia used to enforce
compliance connected to financial houses and banks? They've monopolized the nation-
state idea to exploit other weaker nation-states and no better example of that would be
France and Britain.

I have no need for national anthems, flags or authorized textbooks of any country.

Good video here worth viewing.

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