What is the difference between a friend and an enemy?

• What is the difference between a friend and an enemy?

I think I'll take a crack at that.

My enemies are closer than my friends?

I have a question, what is a 'true patriot?'

Was it really me who abused, lied and did all those things to you.....
You have a chance and a choice to discover your Self, please do.....

With good intentions...., and just because of this, don't let it get in the way, feel free to correspond with others here.
Kentroversy quote from "elusive mindgames"

Allow me (Kentroversy) to list a few of the ways in which someone can tell IF a person is on the up and up, or if they are an agent of some kind.............

http://kentroversypapers.blogspot.com/search?q=cointelpro

tgII, a true patriot, Kentroversy trying to be one?

I remember Kent, posted an 'all the best' on the old forum and
wished him well.

The thing not registering here is movement, there are no
movements to infiltrate. That's why I take particular cause with Ralph
Waldo Emerson, if a movement came along he ran like hell in the
opposite direction.

What is it about humans they need 'organization' and control?

seraphim wrote:Was it really me who abused, lied and did all those things to you.....
You have a chance and a choice to discover your Self, please do.....

With good intentions...., and just because of this, don't let it get in the way, feel free to correspond with others here.
Kentroversy quote from "elusive mindgames"

Allow me (Kentroversy) to list a few of the ways in which someone can tell IF a person is on the up and up, or if they are an agent of some kind.............

http://kentroversypapers.blogspot.com/search?q=cointelpro

tgII, a true patriot, Kentroversy trying to be one?

It does not matter if you used another persons' quote, you qouted it in agreement to the statement.

The statement says:

Anyone who DOES pick fights, and indiscriminately attacks those who APPEAR to be their peers, is NOT whom they claim to be!

You have ignored to answer why you lied about Icemen.

You accused him of black magic and no matter how much you try to deflect from it, this will stick with you.


WHY DID YOU LIE ABOUT ICEMAN?

WHY DID YOU ACCUSE HIM OF USING BLACK MAGIC AGAINST ME?

WHY DID YOU WANT HIM BANNED FROM MY FORUM?

WHY DID YOU JOIN HIS FORUM IF HE APPEARANTLY IS DOING BAD THINGS TO OTHERS?

WHY DO YOU LIE; LIE & LIE?



You can't answer these questions because...you need to avoid & deflect from them like a devil needs to avoid the light.

tgII wrote:

• What is the difference between a friend and an enemy?

I think I'll take a crack at that.

My enemies are closer than my friends?

I have a question, what is a 'true patriot?'

Your enemies are close in proximity or close in spirit?

Patriot - fellow-countryman....in a "tribal sense" your next of kin or tribal kinship by sharing ancestory, location and culture.

Kelly?



I believe her when she says that she has a "foreign entity" infestation.

What do you think will happen to her if one of her chosen targets can't be fooled?

The "foreign entity" must return to the host to feed,

and all her "magic ability" she may had accumulated, is destroyed.




And that's why smart people never attack the sacred oaks.

And that's why you fools are posting here now and not at Mtsar's Forum anymore.

it does not matter if you used another persons quote, you qouted it in agreement to the statement.

Now it doesn't matter to you after the fact that I found the source and it wasn't me who said it. (What does that tell you.....those beliefs about others wanting to be your enemy are not yours to begin with otherwise you would have not let them go. Are you trying to make me your enemy, you really think you can make me into one).

Anyone who DOES pick fights, and indiscriminately attacks those who APPEAR to be their peers, is NOT whom they claim to be!

Yeah I agree with Kentroversy's statement because it is true am I evil now for that. The statement hits close to home with you, wonder why.

You have also not answered why you lied about Icemen. You accused him of black magic and no natter how much you try to deflect from this it will stick with you.

WHY DID YOU LIE ABOUT ICEMAN?

WHY DID YOU ACCUSE HIM OF USING BLACK MAGIC AGAINST ME?

WHY DID YOU WANT HIM BANNED FROM MY FORUM?

WHY DID YOU JOIN HIS FORUM IF HE APPEARANTLY IS DOING BAD THINGS TO OTHERS?

WHY DO YOU LIE; LIE & LIE?

You see - you can't answer these questions because...you need to avoid & deflect from them like a devil that avoids light.

Okay I'll be kind enough to answer again.
What did I lie about iceman? Where are all the vile things and lies that you claim I say, that you say now as you did then about people on this forum and then displace onto me.

You want me to admit something of others and lie about them as you do all the time, and of people I don't even know? It was the persuasion of an influence in you that caused and still causes you to place thoughts in your mind. Like others are evil or do black magick. And then that makes you react very badly. We were talking about spells on your forum and being careful and then somehow you turn it into black magick and this person is out to get you and that one. You have to come to terms with why you do things to people and why you think I have something to do with all your crisis.
It seems that for other's to even want to be your friend that you have got to get rid of what's inside you first and I hope you do that one day.

It also seems that you are blaming me for what happened between you. Everyone left your forum because of what you did not me, I was long gone. Just because I had a dispute with iceman you let it get to you for some strange reason.

I joined his forum because I was invited and trying to heal.
Why do I lie? You mean, what is going on inside of you?

You have hurt me with your behavior and I came back to settle the bill with you and nobody else here.

Then don't take things out on anyone here then. You just did that. As for the hurt, I explained that in the end you hurt yourself and you have apparently had it in you for quite a long time in your past. I am not hurting you, it's yourself, whatever is in you. So that sentence you made is completely and utterly false. Do you understand now why things you say and do are also false.

You tried to disguise your own actions behind Kapis/Iceman by saying to me that he performed a black magic ritual against me.

That is an example of the influence in your mind. It changes as we speak, you first said that I mentioned black magick in general and now it's changed into a specific black magick ritual! When the fact is we were talking of spells on the forum.
Do you realize you are always changing like that, why....
And strange that you go back to a forum and pretend that you have done nothing.

from the Nordic/Egypt thread.....
Just ignore me if you really believe it is me hurting you okay, please don't take it out on others here and attack, that might be too late though, I thought you would have at least Seen and glimpsed and got rid of some things. And if you really have to and
something is bothering you just take it out on Seraphim alright. It's about Life here, participate in other things here.

I think one has to find out if these dark feelings are really their own, in my case I'm sure they were not.

Great, I have a little faith you got a small glimpse, yes find out if the dark feelings are really your own. I don't have any dark feelings towards anyone, not even you and never had.
Now let's put out a make believe scenario in the past, what if I said a poster of yours is doing something I don't like and this and that and blah blah blah......you then transfer all those feelings onto you and react. Why would you take on such dark emotions and make them yours. The feelings or vibes were mine in the fake scenario above, not yours. As a matter of fact what if what you are displacing on me now are not even your thoughts, but an 'influences'. Or even worse an entities. Everything it is telling you is a lie.
Where are the dark feelings inside of you coming from.

from Nordic/Egypt thread

One will cross your path and return the fruits of your dark feelings to you.

I have not made karma with you or have feelings of darkness towards you, so they can't come back to me...........

Don't forget what you put out comes back to you in this dual realm and you have to abide by it's rules, unless.........

Please, do not attack the sacred.

The seed is gone for now?

The title of this thread is 'What is the friend, Who is the enemy" or Why, sorry "Who is the friend" or something like that...Whatever...I just now read it and have something to say

You dirty little monkeys!... Feel free and do not hesitate to correct me if I'm wrong, but I gathered from this so far that a couple of you guys from forum-whogivesashit goes onto the Mtsar forum and starts all kinds of intrigue and scandalous misguidance under various persona's in attempt to draw out or reverse some black spell from the masonic brotherhood of mtsar forum posters/persona's.....

In answer to the topic... I like to think of what some one said in regards to friends being the family that you choose.

Edit to add after re-reading the topic title::: an enemy can be your family, your friend, a stranger and of course you can even be your own enemy... which may be more than likely where the only enemy is anyways.

Wow! I can't believe I never even saw this thread yet. Despite Irony's obvious troll attempts, this is actually a very good topic for discussion.

What is the difference between a friend and an enemy?

This is another topic of obvious polarity. So with respect to the topic, there will be no gray areas, entertained on my part.

Here is my take:

In the beginning...

A true friendship cannot even take place unless the two parties (in the case of two people), both have common respect for their own body, mind, and personal space. I believe that the lack of care or self respect an individual has for oneself, will ultimately become projected upon the potential 'friendee', if you will.

It is possible that this lack of self respect, no matter how well hidden, will be revealed in time. Thus creating an illusion or parody of a friendship. I know many people who mechanically operate under the motions of what they believe to be a friendship, but together, they appear more like a piece of broken equipment.

Simply put, treat yourself with love and self respect. Then let that branch out, and treat others how you would want to be treated yourself (with love). Some people hate themselves, and consequently find other people to go along in hating the hater who hates oneself.

When this stage is reached, infestation occurs, and insanity ensues. Remembering that the root of the disease, started in one person's heart or mind, goes unnoticed by most, as they too have become toxic, with nowhere to turn. This parody of friendship echoes fantasy tales of love, and they believe that life is "just like it is in the movies".

The reason why they don't know this, is because they do not know what it means to be alive in the first place. I believe change and healing happens through ones own personal experience of self awareness. In this stage, a mental transcendence takes place, and the universe rewards good intentioned, loving thoughts by healing dead cells, or people, if you like to put it that way.

When this personal state of positive awareness occurs, it is possible for communication to take place, kind of like synaptic activity between neurons in the body. Unfortunately, many people haven't reached the first stage of 'loving thyself'. They are familiar with the word 'love', but are only imitating an empty shell with a word attached to it.

After the stage of self awareness, and how the universe works, one then has the capability to go out in the field of potential, aware of its traps, and attempt to heal problem areas in other people with love. Even this doesn't seem to heal old baggage carried inside broken individuals. But I believe that they find the potential in themselves, through the revelation of the self aware man or woman, to become healed with their own thoughts, though their own personal damage may be irreversible.

There is a threat to the species inflicted by low quality people, some of them mothers and fathers, who taught not love, but hate, because that's what they were taught. Authority is always a breeding ground for influence.

The lack of love in this world. It is this single simple symptom that has poisoned the human race with a horrible virus. I look at it like red and white blood cells, and we have one hell of a blood clot. To keep the species alive, steps must be taken to heal the wounds, or cells, or the corpse of humanity will have to buried in an empty void of darkness and death. A mass funeral with no one left to mourn the loss of existence.

There is a long way to go, first a sort of common moral system must be put into place, to unify groups of people, to create potential in the field.

In closing, I believe that friends and enemies are the same. To which degree, a single friendship, or group of potential enemies, depends on the level and quality of ones own self awareness, and relationship to the mechanics through which the universe operates. It's really as simple as observing the way an animal mother cares for her young, or the way plants are encoded to reproduce themselves through spiraling, non linear seeds, found everywhere. acorn = oak tree = acorn = oak tree, infinity. The seed has encoded within it, all of the information in the field. It's not so much that one tree ever truly dies in such a sequence. Maybe it has more to do with ever repeating cycles.

To go about this problem from any other angle it still comes back to the beginning, love. Another problem is, is that the mass media and entertainment industries have brainwashed billions of people to what they want people to believe is 'love'. This has created a mass psychosis, where even the sane are endangered, and are forced to make what might seemingly be 'selfish' decisions, in order to preserve one's very existence.

If one is an enemy of oneself, can one truly be a friend to another? If two people hate themselves individually, is it possible for them to have a true, caring, loving friendship?

I don't necessarily believe in the idea of "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer", nor do I believe "keep your enemies close, and your friends closer". I personally believe one must be 'close' to themselves at all times, and then decide who else to keep 'close'.

"base not your joy, upon the deeds of others, for what is given can be taken away"

Alright Flames, you got some important things to say. Good for you!

Monkey?
Lord Hanuman
Roots of humanity......

This thread folks.....you would think there is enough bullshit in this world as it is. Delusions here and there.

"The characteristics of the Vanara include being amusing, childish, mildly irritating, badgering, hyperactive, adventurous, bluntly honest, loyal, courageous, and kind".(wiki)

Don't be offended please. I joined the mtsar forum either right after or during some of those goings on. It was my first experience with a forum like that. I was so exited to get to talk to others who were learning about some of the same things I was. I think because of all the intrigue and ulterior motives people became even more distrustful of new posters. Not a single greeting to the forum, no welcome. I thought ok this is the way its works here and didn't take it to heart but continued on because I felt it was important. The first response to my first post received was from timothygrass and it wasn't even directed to me. I found myself getting caught up in some of that same lower mentality with a poster called music. I got paranoid and began to wonder about who was who. I stopped focusing on what was important and fell into a trap of my own design. I started to make enemies out of potential friends. I learned a good lesson about myself and this may be a refresher to that lesson.
My comments where course and I should have explained myself to avoid misunderstanding. I was frustrated and disappointed after having read some of this thread. The process of disillusionment can be difficult and I know I'm the one who is measuring the difficulty. It is a good reminder for me to re-focus on that which is important.

Flames- That is a great take on friendships. It makes simple sense that one cannot give love unless one first has love to give.

Thanks for taking the time to read that long ass post. Look, I'll tell you the truth. At this time, I don't have many friends at all. Not even close family. It can be a real pain in the ass. Looking at yourself in the mirror and thinking "where did I fuck up?"

The balance of having high standards, and being reasonable is tough for me. Sometimes I need to be more sensitive. There are a lot of broken people out there that could use a good friend, someone to look to for companionship. I want to transcend my own brokenness and create a possibility in helping other people somehow. I always feel like my time is running out.

I don't blame the people from my past. I look at it as a way to improve myself as a man. I want to do so much more. I want to have friends that truly want to feel my friendship, to know how much I care about them. That was the main point of my post. Simply put, No love = No potential. Love = Potential.

At the same time, I look back at my old posts and call bullshit. I question myself why I attempt to use human language in order to cover up insecure emotion. I want to fuck up the equipment I've been given.

I have posted alot of bullshit myself...LOL! I look at some of my posts and just shake my head. I try so hard sometimes...maybe too hard and add to that I'm pretty sure that I could be more honest; so when I talk about trying too hard its not really a genuine effort necessarily all the time. I think I'm deceptive and manipulative because of emotional insecurity. It must be an elaborate type of defense mechanism. Although I do get these fractional moments of clarity and I see how I broadcast that I still live very much on the surface of myself. The way that I still use these words and how obvious the delusion would be to someone who knows what to look for.

I believe that friends and enemies are the same.

That's like saying that love and hate is the same thing to you.

It's like saying a curse and a blessing will produce the same fruits for you.

To which degree, a single friendship, or group of potential enemies, depends on the level and quality of ones own self awareness

Sounds nice but is it realistic?

To understand social cooperation we evaluate others based on their behaviours towards us.

We distingiush between "helpers" and "hinderers".

In fact, being able to distinguish between friend and enemy is a important survival skill. It's important to tell who is going to be helpful, and who is going to be threatening. Being a direct enemy or having to deal with people who oppose you is normal, you can't really complain, but to play a double game with somebody else by pretending friendship is a completely different story.

Nobody is more despised than a false friend and nobody is obligated to forgive such an enemy.