Re: The WTF is Wrong with People Thread

[KapitanScarlet]

Nice outcome Qsc, where theres a will theres a way , sounds like a dodgy dampproof course in the cavity or even more likely, you say that there is decking round the outside of house , dependent on how this was constructed, it may have raised the ground level from the original ground level so that water has been retained in the raised ground or aggregate above the original damp proof course and thus creating a rising damp problem in the cavity since the decking went up ?

Has thew decking raised the level that water will be held from original ground level ? damp proofs usually about 150 to 200 mm above ground levels i think i uk anyway


TG , i would love to see you on the bbc debate programs

[quicksilvercrescendo]

No the deck or the ground underneath it has nothing to do with it.
It just has to do with putting the proper insulation on the outside of the foundation walls to prevent moisture from seeping inside the walls.
But, when I rebuild my new deck I will put down a special plastic sheeting over the ground, cover with a little dirt and then some small gravel stones...as this too prevents moisture and rain from seeping into the ground and then seeping into the concrete foundation...purely a secondary precaution. But with snow here in Norway and the spring and autumn rains, along with a short summer, the ground can stay quite moist so every option must be considered and prepared for.

[seraphim]

Was gonna say that mold might have been a blessing in disguise.

[rainyday]

Happy Mothers Day seraphim

[seraphim]

Thanks rainyday,
I'm a proud adoptive parent of one and a half!

[Flames]

Got Issues? This guy might.... Just read about this earlier.

Cage fighter 'ripped out heart of training partner'

A US cage fighter ripped out the heart of his training partner while he was still alive after becoming convinced he was possessed by the devil.

Jarrod Wyatt also cut out his friend's tongue and ripped off most of his face in a brutal assault that police said looked like a scene from a horror film.
They found the 26 year old standing naked over his friend's body with body parts, including an eyeball, strewn around the blood splattered room.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7787039/Cage-fighter-ripped-out-heart-of-training-partner.html

Good fucking grief!!

[tgII]

A real haunted house there in Amerika.

The news article from the Telegraph read, "According to an
autopsy Powell, 21, bled to death after his heart was ripped
out."

No shit, imagine that, bleeding to death after having your chest
slit open with a knife and your heart ripped out?!

"Cage fighter", somebody please bring me up to speed on what
this is all about? That entire 'professional wrestling' culture seems
like such a surreal orgy of mass sadomasochism and lust for control.
Can you imagine you're one of these animals and you go out
drinking with the guys after a 'fight' and a few chicks show up at the
bar? Testosterone on hyper overdrive, or rape city. These freaks
seem to have taken entertainment to an entirely new level, now it's
savagery and outright killing.

Rollerball here we fucking come...

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Look at these entertainers, what does this say about people
and society in general who get off on this?



It's not like man doesn't have more important matters to
attend to besides this and then when this violence takes place
we're for some reason shocked?

[Flames]

TG - Cage Fighting is more commonly called Mixed Martial Arts. Believe it or not, it is the fastest growing sport on earth. That old fake WWF/Drama wrestling stuff isn't very popular anymore. Excluding rednecks of course.

Anyway, it is a very brutal sport. I actually enjoy watching it more than boxing, because it is a more complete form of fighting. I don't watch it for the novel "brutal" aspect of it. But I find the deep technical components of this sort of "free fighting" very interesting.

For example, it's interesting to see a fighter who is trained in stuff life jiu jitsu, or muay thai, take on an opponent who is a professional boxer, then of course you have expert wrestlers thrown in the mix.

It is interesting to note, that this ultra violent sport is the fastest growing sport in not only America, but the rest of the world. When I stop and think about that:

1) I realize that many of these fighters are simply broke. They live paycheck to paycheck, and feel they have to win, to eat.

2) This sport has dethroned boxing in its overall popularity. Even most bars and clubs order the pay per view events, and people hurry in to watch them together.

3) Maybe there is a sociological angle to all of this. It could be like the roman gladiator thing all over again. I wouldn't be surprised, if the next trend happened to be fighting to the death.

[seraphim]

Here is a little good news at least. World Champion boxer Mani Pakia ran for congress against a billionare and won! He's a very good person, hopefully he won't let those vultures buy him!
Flames, maybe it's good oil is getting a bad rep and some kind of new technology, will happen if anyone is around. Maybe all the destruction has to happen to get rid things not kind to life.

[Flames]

Flames, maybe it's good oil is getting a bad rep and some kind of new technology, will happen if anyone is around. Maybe all the destruction has to happen to get rid things not kind to life.

I think you are right, Seraphim. I couldn't imagine a "pretty ending" to the end of big oil, and its strangle hold over the human kingdom. Practically everything we own and use was created or delivered by oil in some way or another.

Not only do I believe that the technology to replace petroleum, the combustion engine, and rocket fuel exists, I believe it has existed a very long time. In our modern history, the last one hundred years or so, there have been many physicists working on this solution.

They are all dead now, and when they were alive, their work severely repressed. What I think is happening, is that there are so many different countries, developing this research covertly, that it is bound to leak out in the public domain sooner or later. I think we are seeing evidence of this technology being displayed as a sort of "warning sign" if one knows how and where to look for it. Take the "Norwegian Spiral" for example.

That's a good example, because this physics has to do with torsion, hyper dimensional physics, zero point energy, whatever one wishes to call it.

I can understand why the different "powers that be", would want to keep such a physics, and technology under wraps. Because the type of energy I'm talking about has the ability to both be used in the healing of all life, or the destruction of all life.

Certainly, many problems arise with this. One being, even the power of free healing, would put a major dent in the medical industrial complex, the pharmaceutical companies, and a whole lot of angry professionals would be instantly out of work.

The possibilities of this physics being weaponized, from what I understand of it, could not only destroy planets, but could theoretically weaponize a star/sun, and destroy entire solar systems. I believe that this paradox has preoccupied elite factions of the planet for thousands of years. Possibly much of the war we see, is really just a pillow fight between secret societies who wish to control the Universe.

This new Red Ice Creations interview: http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2010/05may/RIR-100530.php
with Richard Hoagland is fascinating, and I enjoy reading his site Enterprise Mission: \

http://www.enterprisemission.com/index.php

I don't agree with everything he says, but it is interesting. Has to do with NASA, Secret Space Programs, and other really really strange stuff...

[seraphim]

Been grinding down on the science Flames, alright.

I can understand why the different "powers that be", would want to keep such a physics, and technology under wraps. Because the type of energy I'm talking about has the ability to both be used in the healing of all life, or the destruction of all life.

Apparently it's been used before for both, but still haven't learn the lesson about destruction, so keeping those sort of things under wraps doesn't matter.
Will listen to Hoagland, thanks.

[Flames]

Have you guys heard about this guy!?

'I'm here to behead Bin Laden': Pakistan police arrest U.S. builder with sword on solo mission to kill Al Qaeda leader

He had suffered a personal loss in the September 11 attacks and wanted revenge.

So Gary Faulkner set off from his California home to Afghanistan to find and 'decapitate' Osama bin Laden - all by himself.

The construction packed up his kit, which included a 40-inch sword, night vision goggles and a book of Christian works and teachings.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1286690/Pakistan-police-arrest-Gary-Brooks-Faulkner-mission-kill-Osama-Bin-Laden.html#ixzz0qzejsIuQ

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1286690/Pakistan-police-arrest-Gary-Brooks-Faulkner-mission-kill-Osama-Bin-Laden.html#ixzz0qzeZ01ms

[Blackbird]

http://www.weirdworm.com/blacksheep-the-mortifying-siblings-of-7-famous-people/

[seraphim]

Elephants, the largest land animals on the planet, are among the most exuberantly expressive of creatures. Joy, anger, grief, compassion, love; the finest emotions reside within these hulking masses. Through years of research, scientists have found that elephants are capable of complex thought and deep feeling. In fact, the emotional attachment elephants form toward family members may rival our own.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/unforgettable/emotions.html
I just watched a show on elephants not this one though. It made me physically sick and cry the entire show. It was on: Why elephants go into a rage?
Anyone can figure out why and it wasn't because of the full moon.
God there is no more peace in this world anymore.........%&#&@

[rainyday]

Since cows are a domestic human food source, most people wouldn't think they have the same traits as the elephants. I can assure you, they do.
They are very protective of their young and of each other. They mourn over the death of another herd member. The herd will gather around and stand guard over the corpse while bawling for hours and hours.
It's a very sad thing to watch. Can you imagine how many are being hauled to the slaughter houses daily? How many cows it takes to fill the meat departments in local grocery stores across the USA, not to mention all the other countries in the world.
Cows express extreme fear and tension as they are loaded into the shoots that line them up for the BIG HIGH PRESSURE NAIL GUN with ONE SHOT IN THE FOREHEAD, RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES.

I also can't help but wonder about the men that stand on the production line all day long.
They have to physically grab the cow by the head, look down into it's eyes and hold it still long enough to shoot that one blast. One by one. Five days a week, 52 weeks a year.

I have determined that there are too many things hidden from people. What's not hidden, I know I'm guilty for not paying attention, not thinking for myself, and believing what I was told to believe.
It's a vicious cycle from one generation to the next. I'm guilty of that as well.

Your right, there is no more peace in this world anymore. I often wonder if there ever was peace in this world. Maybe it's always been this way and I never noticed.

[quicksilvercrescendo]

At the local slaughtery where I live they slowly reduce the oxygen and increase the CO2 in a room where animals are kept before they head off to be individually killed.
There is no fear response and the animals are not excited...they have become too docile to know what is going on and what is going to happen next.
Each animal is removed from that room and while not in the presence of other animals is then slaughtered. Pain, if any, is also reduced from the manipulation of the atmospheric gases.
After being slaughtered, usually a bolt to the head for a cow, the animals are then hoisted up by a hoof and suspended upside down where they are then bled.
Sheep are actually slaughtered by increasing the CO2 and they just go to sleep.
They also hook up some electric muscle stimulation electrodes on the animal to keep the muscles twitching a bit. This contributes to the quality of the meat until it is further chopped down into pieces and cuts.

People here notice a difference in the taste of the meat if an animal was excited prior to slaughter...particularly in pork, and they will not buy it if it has this taste. So the producers know what they have to do to keep the customers content. And it is widely accepted in the industry that a more humane approach requires more effort and expense...but it is paid attention too more here than in the U.S. factory farms.

[Blackbird]

Here comes some more romantic sentimentality Been thinking about this meat eating thing for quite a while now. I've never not eaten meat except for a few times during fasts. Don't really have much experience with fasting, but in my experiences it was good for me.
So after my fast I would like to see how well I do with a vegetarian diet. I'm not suggesting this is for anyone else or saying that it is wrong to eat meat. I do however think factory farms are horrific, even well beyond the suffering and the ecological imbalances. I think there is a relationship in how people treat supposed lesser creatures to how they treat themselves and other people. No matter how humane and sanitary a picture one paints of taking the life of another, there is something about it that seems more and more off to me (maybe because I think many have no idea what it is to kill something). I'm not sure why exactly, but my heart tells me this and I reason that eating so much meat everyday can't be good for my health (been eating less meat and more fresh veggies everyday). For me fasting really helped to quit smoking, drinking and gave me a new appreciation for my body. It was very difficult to do, especially when I cooked all the meals while everyone else chowed down. I wanted to challenge myself and I did it, but then fell back into bad habits again. Falling down doesn't seem to be an achievement, its the getting back up that makes me feel so good.
Now that I've made this decision, for all my own personal reasons, to not do it I think would be even more harmful than if I had never considered it.

[seraphim]

Hi everyone.
Should have explained further.....I was talking about outright murder of these amazing elephants! Not killing to eat at all. So what is happening? and it parallels us exactly, we could learn alot from these wonderful animals, socially and emotionally. So when the ANIMAL WILDLIFE whatever group decided to corral all the animals in a national park in Africa. Poachers and hunters had a field day! The little ones were left all alone. And they never forget and have emotions just like us and it causes severe trauma in these little ones. They grow up abusing one's around them and kill other animals, just like folks do. The young males have no mentors and do the killing even of hippos not wanting to mate with them. Their adrenaline and test is spiked they go into musk way before they should and try to mount other animals and when they can't they end up killing the other smaller creature even the cows of the Masai, so the Masai who have lived with them peacefully for thousands of years, are going to have to take measures of their own and kill some elephants!!!!

All because of those corporations!!!In a way I'm so glad these elephants are striking back! Unfortunately at their own expense.
It's mindboggling how they are just like us, those elephants!! But they are special now to be decimated!!!

[seraphim]

Blackbird, IMO and from being around many vegetarians, studying and experiencing it myself, plus talking to many others. I would not recommend being complete vegan. Especially if you have O type.
That's great you want to not eat animals products but our bodies have adapted to eating them for thousands of years through our ancestors and it's not safe at all to go cold turkey.
You can only get true vitamin A and cholesterol from animals products. So many vegans get bad eyesight, and then in order to make sex horomones in our body it is from animal cholesterol. So I have encountered without failure all the vegans I met on heavy mood swings. They have to take a break and eat eggs or cheese at least. At least supplement with cod liver oil, for the A.
Natural carnitine and B12 (you would want methylcobalamin form) come from animals only. You can get them in synthetic form in those though.
I wish you the best in everything you do and health!

[quicksilvercrescendo]

Restrictive eating and fasting does have its place and there are benefits.
Eating too much meat and animal foods definitely has its downsides.

A meal should not be much more than you can hold in both of your cupped hands. Who eats that way?
A portion of animal food should be around 4-6 ounces. That is not a large serving, most people regard that as being quite small compared to their usual portion sizes they eat.
Meat is best consumed with vegetables and, against food combining, with some starch on the side. In soups and stews is one of the best ways to eat meat. The broth from bones in the stew give essential nutrients.
If you do not exercise, are not that physically active and have a job that is not physical...you can probably get by on three to four servings of animal foods a week.
If you exercise, have a physical job, play sports, etc. then more protein from animal foods may be eaten. But when your body generates so much body heat...it burns that quite efficiently. Your system won't be dragged down if you are burning and eliminating properly...in fact this is an aspect of health.
Fish, eggs and organic whey are the most assimilable and clean burning of the proteins. Be careful of which brand of whey you buy.
Periods of laying off of dense foods and animal foods are excellent for the body. A couple days, to a week, two weeks and in some prescribed cases even up to three months can be extremely beneficial to health. Allowing the body to cleanse itself and catabolize system proteins can establish health within its systems. But after an extended period this can be a detriment to the body.

Moderation seems to be the wisdom in all things. Your body will eventually tell you what is right for it.

I had read that Asians have a pancreas four times larger than Europeans...which makes them more ideal for a high grain diet.
If this type of difference in anatomy and physiology exist then diet does become a very individual affair.

[Blackbird]

Appreciate the insight QSC and Seraphim. My reasons would be for health and cleansing not something static or some kind of extreme deprivation.

I wish you both and all the best of health in the wholest sense, mind, body and spirit.

[seraphim]

Who's the real predator?

[Flames]

So here we are celebrating that one day when American pilgrim Christians sat down and ate with Native Americans...all that just turned out great didn't it.



...like I want to get stuck in traffic with a million other fuck-wits, just to go see a bunch of people I barely even know is a waste of my time. And go fuck yourself Black Friday. I don't got the money to buy your shitty products for a bunch of douchebags who don't deserve them.

What the fuck does this have to do with the betrayal of Natives and White people anyway?

Is there even ONE American holiday that isn't full of shit? Fuck you Thanksgiving. I will spend this day alone, as I always do.

Anyway, with all of that said, about false holidays, I wish every one of you the best, and I wish you a peaceful day today.

[Flames]

Speeding Car Ends up on Apartment Roof

A similar situation happened to my aunt and uncle several years back. Some dude was speeding, lost control of his car and literally drove his car into the middle of their closed garage. I went to school with the dude who wrecked the car. Wasn't the brightest banana on the tree.

[tgII]

While living in the Clusterfuck Nation off a large road in a large
American city, one morning after just arriving at work, I get a
phone call from my panicked wife. I knew something was wrong
so rather than her explain what happened and waste precious
time, I ran out of the office, jumped in the car and sped home.
As I came down the hill to my home, the first thing I saw was a
large Ford pickup truck sticking out of the front of my house.

The stupid fucker almost killed my children; seconds earlier they
came out of the house off the porch around to the side of the
house when the truck came off the road and slammed into the front
of my house. He hit the house so hard that it dislodged bricks which
impacted into the side of the neighbor's house.

People are fucking stupid - and dangerous. I was so fearful living
in that area of the city - gun shots on one occasion - that I had a
fully loaded Remington 870 combat version at the ready and a .357
magnum with several speed loaders at close reach just after getting
out of the military while living there.

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