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Post  seraphim on Mon 04 Jan 2010, 20:08

Happy New Year Everyone! flower

Are we on the same wavelength Haudenosaunee! Have you been reading my mind! Yes and Yes!
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Mon 04 Jan 2010, 20:41

The metaphysics of evil sounds interesting subject

Regarding what happens after DEath , start from whats known for sure in present life
One is conscious during waketime , One can be completly unconscious during sleeptime
But one can also be slightly to fully conscious during sleeptime and travel in a virtual reality

So in effect, it is already proven that the consciousness can act, react and feel in a world during the sleep of the body , the question then is, can the consciousness be successfully retained after the lifebody has closed down , or does it just cease to exist.

If it can be retained, or if it is retained regardless in some capacity related to life experiences, then what proportion of free will does it have for its movements or because of its ignorance or sins, does it become a slave of something greater than it, and does the way a person live their life dictate this after-death status

i have spoken with people whom are in their 70s and 80s, (at least 2 on this subject) and they speak of encountering people in their dreams whom they knew but are already dead more and more regularly, almost in conversations with them, but not quite in the conventional sense of conversation
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Post  Sputnik on Tue 05 Jan 2010, 17:44

Oh cool..I can clearly recognise David's Star





Must be true then...
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Post  seraphim on Sun 04 Apr 2010, 07:34

Thanks H, I finally had a chance to watch Laura on her knowledge video. She has that trance energy, maybe because she is a medium, but it always causes me to get dreamy. I've met people in real life with that same energy. Something they are channeling or something in them, they don't have to talk their touch also makes me dreamy. She reminds me a lot of the host of the Cameron? productions.

It was real profound when she said, "You get out of life what you put into it.

She said that we are just free lunch, (yeah I remember) to the dragons and should not meddle with them, she paid the consequences and is sharing that with us. In that case, the rulers are too powerful for people to investigate so we might as well remain sheeple? For me, I have always fought and defended myself with some very grave consequences as well, so I understand what she is saying and that it is true about being made into lunch, but I've always done anything I can for my freedom.

She said she found out consciousness is the key to everything and behind creation. Everything sorted into this consciousness scattered out in this world. And people's impressions even if not real is what they experience. Like a stigmata.

The millenial disease is when people are going crazy can't believe in devils or demons so they translate their
belief systems into the digital age and of UFO's and aliens, she said.

She used to believe that you have to believe in UFO,s in order to see them and then you create your own experiences based on belief.
Until she saw a UFO herself that changed her belief on that. And then the rest was kind of like a setup in her life.

Her channeling quotes....
Additionally, for many of these questions to be answerable, a similar frequency issue comes into play. You, PERSONALLY, in your mind, must be seeking the answer, and it must be important to your path of destiny.

A good question, another way to ask that, is how much could you teach a child by having them sit at a computer and you instruct them via the computer? Because that's what we're dealing with in ourselves...
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Post  seraphim on Thu 08 Apr 2010, 05:20

some more quotes......
Ark writes: The name Cassiopaea was given by a consciously "channeled source" which Laura accessed in 1994 after two years of experimental work. The source identified itself by saying "we are you in the future." Modern physics does not provide us with practical means for this type of communication, and theories on this subject are not well developed; they are, in fact, inconclusive and controversial.
Interesting I heard that indigo children or just those may be more aware like Laura, also believe in Ark's comment, "We are you in the future." Meaning that the beings we can't see or know of and are supposed to be more advanced will be what humans will be like in the future. I think so especially if they are made whole so they can. A person can improve. And if speciation to the next higher creature ever occured naturally, that would be it right there. But the scientists place humans on top and no one can go advance further.
She has one of the best genetic explanations.
Interesting to note how it's females used (the last 100 years or so)to bring forth information especially of that nature.
So, human souls entered into living creatures on this planet to experience 3rd density reality and by entering in caused mutation?
Souls altered them by transfer into seeded bodies. Orion Union was first to put human souls in for incubation process thereby producing neanderthal.
Where did the souls come from that entered into the bodies on the planet earth? Were they in bodies on other planets before they came here?

A: Not this group.

Q: (L) Were they just floating around in the universe somewhere?

A: In union with the One. Have you heard the Super ancient legend of Lucifer, the Fallen Angel?

Q: (L) Who is Lucifer?

A: You. The human race.

Q: (L) Are you saying that the souls of individual humans are parts of a larger soul?

A: Yes. Close. The One. You are members of a fragmented soul unit. All who have fallen must learn "the hard way."

Q: (L) Are you saying that the act of wanting to experience physical reality is the act of falling? What is it about wanting to be physical that is a "fall"?

A: Pleasure for the self.

Q: (L) Did, at any time, the human race live for a long time in an Edenic state, where they were able to be in bodies and still had a spiritual connection?

A: Yes. But not long. No addiction takes long to close the circle.

Q: (L) So, mankind was addicted to pleasuring the self?

A: Became quickly.
A: Partly. The mark of Cain means the "jealousy factor" of change facilitated by Lizard takeover of earth's vibrational frequency. Knot on spine is physical residue of DNA restriction deliberately added by Lizards. See?

Q: (L) You mean the area around the occipital ridge? The structures underneath?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was the configuration of the spine and skull prior to this addition?

A: Spine had no ridge there. Jealousy emanates from there, you can even feel it.

Q: (L) Do any of these emotions that we have talked about that were generated by DNA breakdown, were any of these related to what Carl Sagan discusses when he talks about the "Reptilian Brain"?

A: In a roundabout way.

Q: (L) Okay, at the time this "Mark of Cain" came about, were there other humans on the planet that did not have this configuration?

A: It was added to all simultaneously.

Q: (L) How did they physically go about performing this act? What was the mechanism of this event, the nuts and bolts of it?

A: DNA core is as yet undiscovered enzyme relating to carbon. Light waves were used to cancel the first ten factors of DNA by burning them off. At that point, a number of physical changes took place including knot at top of spine. Each of these is equally reflected in the ethereal.

Q: (L) Well, the question I do have is, how many people were there on the planet and did they have to take each one and do this individually? How did they effect this change on all of them?

A: Light wave alteration.

Q: (L) And light waves, actual light waves, affect DNA?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) What was the origin of the light waves?

A: Our center. Our realm. STO. The Reptilian beings used sophisticated technology to interrupt light frequency waves.
A: Time is an illusion that works for you because of your altered DNA state

: (L) So what you are saying to us is that the story of the temptation in Eden was the story of Humankind being led into this reality as a result of being tempted. So, the eating of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was...

A: Giving into temptation.
The battle was through us as to whether we would walk through this doorway... (L) The battle was fought through us, we were literally the battleground. (T) Was the battle over whether or not we walked through that door?
And we are here to set up some sort of a frequency to pull as many beings through the wave, when it passes, and that is the whole purpose of why we are here... Is that it?

A: That implies interference with free will.

Q: (L) So, we are here to set up a frequency
So, you seem to be suggesting that the real trick is to just become non-attached to anything and anybody, do nothing, and just dissolve into nothing? No thought, no want, no do, no be, no anything!

A: If you are STS, that does not fit, but, if you did exactly that, you would reincarnate in an STO realm, where such energy does fit.
very interesting, I better get on the ball.

So, we possibly need to look at all of the things happening on our planet, the things we perceive as very negative and disturbing, as the "contract phase" of the Wave. Many of us have noticed that, very often, when negative forces put some action into effect that is intended to be very harmful, when it interacts with persons of certain frequency, or who are internally configured in the STO pattern, the negative action turns out to be of great benefit - though the sender of the energy certainly did not INTEND it that way! "Turning lemons into lemonade" comes to mind.

If we look at the situation in this way, and understand that the greatest weakness of the STS pathway is their illusory "wishful thinking" tendency, then perhaps we can understand that things are happening as they ought to be. Some sort of critical mass of negativity has to be reached before sufficient Contact Potential Difference can be developed to draw in the light!

And, when you consider that aspect, and the way negative energy can actually work for good when it interacts with individuals of internal STO configuration, even if the initial perception is that something terrible is happening (what doesn't destroy us makes us strong), then you have to also consider the opposite occurs when folks send love and light toward negative beings of internal STS configuration... it doesn't change them to "good guys," it merely is food for them to become stronger and meaner! As Michael Topper has written:

The alternate convention to which a certain "New Age" mentality turns whenever the possible existence of actual, deliberate negativity approaches, is that of the vaguely "Christian" tactic: love-bomb the blighters until they see the error of their ways, by the point-scoring Good Example set. Such cheek-turning is in practice, of course, a very selective espousal, since it rarely seems to constitute the day-by-day business attitude of the very same proponent. Even in the case however that this recommendation weren't outright hypocrisy, it would remain fatally fatuous; for they (the STS) "do not want your love".

The Negativity of the Higher Densities is ipso facto awake; it has chosen the rejection of other-love as a whole-being orientation, and therefore has no subconscious residuum of receptivity that might secretly "respond" to the good intentions of a positively-directed beam (even if such a beam proceeded from a sincere resolve which consistently applied its Samaritan counsel in all other avenues of life).

Indeed there is deeper implication than this. In the face of such uncommon or truly spiritual negativity the presumption of such conventional counsel might well result in consequences worse than simple "lack of success." It has to be understood that spiritual principles and religious precepts, have to be evaluated against an enlarged context, and modified according to the forms of information "unique" to the higher domains to which consciousness must adapt.

The principle to "love one and all alike", to bestow "blessings upon all beings" and so forth is not subject to abandonment at this stage; we are not to somehow understand that a reversion to hatred and warfare are suddenly "all right" due to the extenuating circumstance that "pure spiritual evil does indeed exist". Universal Love is and always remains the principle in some proper form; but the specific beaming of the "love-vibe" in the direction of the [STS beings] not only possesses the defect of wholly wasted effort; the philosophy informing it tends to contribute to a tremendous misreading of the elements actually involved. [...]

What then are we to "do" with the counsel of the general Teaching thus far delivered to this density, such as that of "love thine enemy?" How are we to interpret such a precept or indeed understand the principle of Love altogether, when its application seems so susceptible to a sticky, spider web ambush from planes of reality actually eager with invitation for so innocent an approach? [...]

If then the first spiritual precept to "Love God with all your heart" is a familiar reference of 3rd density consciousness, how is it that such a framework possesses it? And how does such a reference coexist with corollary commandments and encomiums, i.e. precisely those such as "love thine enemies," "love your neighbor as yourself, etc?

When we learn the whole-being expression of Love as that spontaneous Love of the One Infinite Creator, the very essence of Love tends to emanate impersonally as a global value, spreading without effort or special address to all quarters where it's received or not according to the specific will of every form. In this way its Presence doesn't become confused with the conditional presence of the myriad beings "positive" or "negative." Nor does its Presence become confounded with the mechanics of "give and take," which are all relative identifications of the mind common to the complex of 3rd-stage psychology that accepts the teaching of Love according to its lights—in which love is understood as a conceptual miasma of "owes" and "oughts."
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Q: (L) What causes some planes, people and ships to disappear in the Bermuda Triangle. Where do they go and what happens to them? I know you have previously said that it was EM wave disturbances from a submerged Atlantean pyramid that kicks into action every now and then... but, where do those folks and things go when they disappear?

A: Of course some are just crashes and sinkings, but when accompanied by unusual phenomena, it is because of irregular anomalies.

Q: (L) Where do they go?

A: To parallel reality.

Q: (L) Is this parallel reality like being on a parallel earth?

A: No.

Q: (L) What do you mean by a parallel reality?

A: Varies according to circumstances.

Q: (L) What happened to the infamous Flight 19?

A: They are still trying to get their bearings.

Q: (J) Oh! My God! Oh, how horrible! They are still out there trying to get back. (T) They are in a parallel reality... (L) Where time doesn't exist... (T) They are in a reality that holds them in frozen space/time over the ocean, am I getting this right?

A: In their thought reference, like being "lost souls."

Q: (L) Bummer! Does this mean that they are "stuck" in time? (J) You got it!

A: Bingo!

Q: (L) Is there any possibility that they could fly out of this place that they are stuck in and back into our reality?

A: Absolutely. Remember,The Wave is approaching, and as it gets "nearer", more and more unusual events take place, witness crop circles, for example.

Q: (L) Is there anything anyone can do to release persons stuck in these parallel realities and bring them back into the reality of origin?

A: Yes, but the technology is a closely guarded secret.

Q: (L) Do you know the secret?

A: Yes, but you do too!

Q: (L) I do too?

A: Philadelphia Experiment.

Q: (L) Since you mentioned the Philadelphia Experiment, could you tell us in specific detail, how this was done? What kind of machines were used and how can we build one? [General uproar and laughter]

A: Do you intend to sit here for a day or two?

Q: (J) In other words, it would take a day or two to give us the information? (T) Yeah, we got the time. Get some paper and a pencil. Let's start with a diagram... [laughter]

A: In short, build an EM generator.

A: Now, some more information about Flight 19. Do you remember a few years ago that a team of researchers claimed to have found the planes, then retracted?

Q: (L) Yes, I remember. [All agree.]

A: Did you find this to be curious?

Q: (S) Yes, because the planes that they found were never reported missing. (T) Yes. (L) Is that why it was so curious? (J) Why did they publish a retraction later? (S) Where did the planes come from that they found?

A: Yes, if only you knew the details, and how three of the team have required massive psychiatric aid.

Q: (L) Well, tell us the details!

A: Patience, we are, but must do so slowly... What they found were five planes matching the description, and "arranged" in a perfect geometric pattern on the bottom of the ocean, but the serial numbers did not match. Now, first mystery: There were no other instances of five Avengers disappearing at once. Second: Two of the planes had strange glowing panels with unknown "hieroglyphics" where there should have been numbers. Third: When they tried to raise one of the planes, it vanished, then reappeared, then vanished again then reappeared while attached to the guidewire, then finally slipped off and fell to the bottom. Fourth: In one of the planes, on the bottom, live human apparitions in WWII uniforms were temporarily seen by three exploratory divers and videotaped by a guide camera. Lastly: Three of the planes have since disappeared. All of this is, naturally, being kept secret!

Q: (S) I wonder where the planes came from. (L) That is the obvious question!

A: Parallel reality, you see, when something crosses into another reality, it accesses something called, for lack of a better term, the "thought plane", and as long as that reality is misunderstood, the window remains open, thus all perceptions of possibility may manifest concretely, though only temporarily, as thought plane material is constantly fluid.

Q: (L) Does this mean that this was a "Flight 19" of a parallel reality that went through a window into our reality?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Was this part of, or connected to, the loss of our "Flight 19?" Did we exchange realities here?

A: It is the thought patterns that effect the reality, when that window is opened, all thought can become physical reality, though only temporarily.

Q: (L) Does this mean that the divers' and searchers' thoughts about this became reality?

A: And all others.

Q: (T) All others involved in the search?

A: All others on the planet.

Q: (T) Even those that did not believe that the searchers were going to find them?

A: Yes. Researchers found what they expected to find, but when others heard the news, other things started to happen according to which thought patterns dominated.

Q: (L) So, in other words, if somebody believed that it was Flight 19, it appeared, and if somebody did not believe it was Flight 19, it disappeared?

Then there is no one real reality. Reality cannot exist, only in a time based, delusionary world or frame of mind.
Anything that affects the mind will affect reality, why plants can do that.
I did find a reference to this phenomenon in the work of the Sufi Shaykh Ibn al'Arabi as follows:

"A State is that which enters in upon the heart without self-exertion or the attempt to attract it. [...] "the State is the changing of the attributes of the servant. [...] State signifies certain dimensions of spiritual realization, it denotes the special powers that accrue to the servant [...] the State is in conjunction with terms denoting extraordinary feats or miracles [...] producing effects in the outside world through concentration. [...] The possessors of the States engender things through resolve and throw secondary causes far from themselves."

Now, the curious thing about al'Arabi's discussion of the "States" is what follows here:

"When an angel brings a ruling or knowledge to the servant, the human spirit encounters the imaginal form and through the giving and receiving, which are two lights, the constitution becomes excited and inflamed. In the two lights, the native heat of the constitution is strengthened and the magnitude of the light is increased. The color of the servant's face changes because of this and it is the most intense State that might be. The bodily moistures ascend in vapors and this is caused by the compression undergone by the natures when the two spirits meet. When the possessor of the state regains his composure, the heat abates and the constitution increases in coldness and the cold overcomes the heat and the possessor of the state begins to shiver.All of this is the descent of a spiritual attribute upon the heart.

"The word hal, or State, is derived from the root from which we get 'self-transmutation' or to change from one situation to another." [As translated by William Chittick]
Machiavelli observed that religion and its teachings of uncritical faith, hope, charity, love, humility and patience under suffering were factors that render men weak and cause them to care less about worldly and political things, and thus they will turn political power over to wicked men who are not influenced by such ideals (though they may easily pretend to be). Of course, the real trick is to convince people that the "afterlife" is the only thing worth thinking about, and it is to this end that the monotheistic religions have been formulated. It is also to this end that many of the New Age beliefs and "formulations" of the "subjective truths" seem to have been engineered. All you have to do is have faith or meditate so as to feel "love" for everything and everybody. Nothing is said about the day by day struggle, and the necessity for action that could contribute to different, positive outcome in the present, objective reality in which we live and move and have our being. The future is forged in the present by what we DO. The Butterfly Effect.
It is also possible that, whenever a civilization comes to the point that it can manipulate the past and thereby change the present, it would most probably destroy itself, and probably its "branch" of the universe, unless there comes a cataclysmic event before this happens which would act as a kind of "control system" or way of reducing the technological possibilities to zero again, thus obviating the potentials of universal chaos.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Thu 08 Apr 2010, 22:40

This lady's work is reading to be more and more interesting.

Has anyone here read any of her books in their entirety?
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Post  seraphim on Fri 09 Apr 2010, 04:41

Books are great, if the internet isn't going to last, I might get a DVD of the sacred texts website. The Secret History of the World is for sure next in line.
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Post  seraphim on Mon 19 Apr 2010, 08:42

It's so incredible it's hard to believe! And right in front of my eyes!! The puzzle is connecting!!

I have always wondered why all this amazing information is coming out. The establishment knows things will show themselves sooner or later and had to scramble, of course planned all the disinformation with all that was to come out to help folks. They knew that people like Laura would do just that and had her mind controlled at such an early age, they actually programmed her to be reclusive and not want to share information!! Because they knew she would in the future because of her gifts. And that actually happened to Laura in real life!

The host of camelot productions sorry but......barff!!! She is so transparent! Laura I believe picked up on something not quite right. And picks up a cigarette, not because she is paranoid, but because Laura's higher self, and it's all in the body language sees that the host is doing something not quite right. Laura's higher self, seers right through the host in one particular second.
Some of the questions and accusations posed Laura were mind controlled based. Like hinting that Laura was related to the Illuminati, so that key word there scares people and if they just hear the word automatically become fearful. So planting that in people's brains now may have some thinking Laura is the Illuminati! Can you believe it!!! And then the host goes, oh so you didn't finish or go through college, as if that makes Laura a dummy!!
It's kind of upsetting because I know what Laura has gone through is the truth and people try to do bad things to her and her work.
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Post  seraphim on Mon 19 Apr 2010, 09:02

Breathe in and onward!

Laura always wanted to know why people say or do something and do the opposite and behave so badly in the process. She wanted to know about good and Evil. Why people do those things, what goes on in the mind.

Interesting that she can't be hypnotized and has a photographic memory (read the bible back to back twice? and countless other books), and can remember them all and events. Why she can't be hypnotized is because she said there is a consciousness watching part of her mind an analytical thing that never turns off.

As for her freewill being stripped away and mind control, she was taken by her stepdad at 2 or 3 years old, who was being mind controlled himself and this controllers gave her drugs to have dreams and programmed in her. Incredible, she was
being programmed to be reclusive, not to share if someone gave her information and if she did people would die or get hurt she was brainwashed to believe that! I'm surprised she didn't do herself in, like others have done!
So she tried not to stand out in a crowd even though she may be gifted. That's amazing because they did the same thing to the man in A Clockwork Orange which I was able to finally watch, but for him it was to get sick when there was violence around. Funny I what happened to him occurred to me but on a smaller scale.

So how would the people who tried to manipulate her mind know the Cassopeians would contact her later in life!!! That is obvious now, they knew the time would come when people may wake up! Was she the type of person genetically that can communicate and break free and so those people are targeted in early life!

When she meditates she said it's a real, highly expanded stated of consciousness the goes into the past and future and laterally. She is IMO one of those who can use more of her brain. A central idea going through her brain was a quantum metamorphosis on a macrocosmic scale. Was all that going on in her mind possible? So she studied it and followed up to find out if what was in her thoughts were true.

Yes, the planet or solar system does transform she said, but it's essentially to our level of consciousness a cataclysmic event. Because if an atom goes through changes from one state or element to another it's major. That's what was dreaming of when she was young.............!!! I say this is very interesting because the Natives, look beyond the regular consciousness and believe the planet is a Being and when it changes it's natural and good for it, but a person would think it disastrous. They also believe the planets are Beings that are not out to manipulate in a negative way and can be more trusted upon than any other thing out there.

So where is Noah and his ark when you need it Laura said, because of what happened in the bible, the fall, and other cataclysmic events in this world, you realize they occurred repeatedly on the planet and we don't know what life was like before them. It could have been a very different and for reality too, folks may have been in a higher state she said, that's where one will want to read up on Blavatsky IMO.

Still have half to go, but she commited suicide in her past life. Could she have escaped something by doing that and retaining her awareness??? Thought that was interesting.

Sorry folks, I am more of a hearing/visual person?? so when I hear something so many things happen in my mind and I can write a book from just one thing a person said. So I don't mean to go off on every video posted.
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Post  seraphim on Thu 22 Apr 2010, 07:45

I posted some more notes on the video, but when I pressed the send button it disappeared, so I guess it will have to wait for another day.

Yeah rainyday, things the host did just jumped out at me, and I'm not being mean and didn't get too excited this time. I like to reflect good things back to people. Call it intuition.
Had to say this though......The host was great at getting the info she wanted from Laura and sidetracking and such..........she knows how to make people dreamy and confused and implants subliminal things in your head. Really she does, I'm not kidding this about the host, I'll give some examples.
I've noticed this before, she does a lot of that in her interviews. Laura knows how things work too, but she is not negative. I mentioned this dreamy energy before. The truth is not all peaches and cream. The host does some very tricky things (209 mark plus) has a very interesting way of REPHRASING (like I am paraphrasing what Laura said, the host is rephrasing falsy about Laura!) Laura and adding things of her own. And then out of no where, she asks Laura how do you prove the soul like some scientist would say! When you interview them you are supposed to listen mostly and ask questions not do all those strange mental things and say things to confuse and make the person look like an idiot. It's hilarious that the host started talking or butting in right after the comment, before we close or end the discussion. To give some kind of own view. And then Laura suddenly says "Evil institutes itself by appearing to be good, she got the host good!

Anyway the host goes on and on trying to get Laura to talk about smoking and then the killer, new age question that will automatically make one crazy for even discussing much less believing, chemtrails!!! Good thing Laura said she wasn't going to talk about that!
The host keeps saying this is the reason or really the reason why we are doing this interview......oh yeah......as if their has to be one or suggesting there may be another reason, maybe a sneaky one!
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Thu 22 Apr 2010, 10:30

Or perhaps the host is a Jew and you are picking up on that..."Jew vibe".
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Post  seraphim on Sun 25 Apr 2010, 05:46

Oh no! Maybe it takes one to know one!
Well you know, I might have some of that Jew blood in me. There were Polish Jews who changed to Catholic Jews (that is the correct term because if you are born from a Jew, it's hereditary, there's no changing that defect Evil or Very Mad ) after being targeted. I believe strongly in genetic manipulation that can be practiced on anything and the Jewish line were started to create havoc. When I think back on my grandmother's behavior and all her Polish family it is very similar to the Jews. YES, they are psychopathic and I can give some personal stories. And yes they do have murderous rages that you would not believe, reminds me of Laura's lizzies on a feeding frenzy!

There is something very seriously wrong with the scientific picture, not all people are identical and there are different strains regardless of what the textbooks say about humans. That is why it is so important to pinpoint a person's behavior down to their DNA. I was trying to understand how a person could be born destructive and with a psychopathic gene. I wasn't thinking about the tampering a long time ago, in that case DNA changes definitely do affect anyone.

If I do have Jew blood, then no one can bash me for talking about them in this way......and I will have to do Drunvalo's or the Pleiadians DNA change quick...LOL
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Post  seraphim on Sun 09 May 2010, 07:28

Why don't they just kill us all and get it over with, seems like that's what they want to do and have been doing. But then they would really be killing themselves, because they literally turn people into them, their image.
Had a strange thought, what if telling a person all the wrong things that have been done to them by manipulation throughout history, only makes them more mind controlled.

In other word's Laura is saying a group of theosophist's who have gone bad, including one very evil one, Leadbeater tried to destroy The Secret Doctrine and Blavatsky's Theosophical Society, infiltrated the Roman Catholic Church, the folks who control the sex slave and pedophile ring, and created their own church branch, which Humble belongs to as well. Ain't that wonderful! Leadbeater being with the Vatican, hmm... maybe he was possessed by an entity while performing a ritual and doesn't really know what he has done. Heard he channels some good stuff.

I don't blame Humble for using chlorine dioxide if it was a plant that did the same thing he would have been hit so hard he wouldn't have know what hit him. Always have to go with what the establishment endorses.

You know Laura was taken by people like Montauk when she was two or three years old, and may still be programming her.

There's some evil forces out there that would take advantage of Linda's mind, probably easier since she is so open, to attack Humble. Who knows.

Aside from the Maya, have a great Mother's Day rainyday and all you mom's out there ( :
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