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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Fri 18 Dec 2009, 00:53

Eric John Phelps to Brother Marco on the Doctrine of “the Appearing” of Christ

Greetings Brother Eric,

I would love to know what your stance is on the Rapture.
The reason I ask is that I’m not well versed on that portion of the Bible and would like to know your stance on the Rapture whether it be post or pre-tribulation and etc as that the recent “history” channel episode of the nostrodamus effect focuses on more of a post tribulation rapture.

Ps – that would also make a great topic of discussion for one of your upcoming shows on liberty live.

Lord Bless

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I never use the term “rapture” as it is Jesuit/Latin terminology. I use the bibilcal term “the appearing” as found in several passages of which you are aware (Titus 2:13-14; I John 3:1-3, etc.).

The “appearing” of the Lord Jesus Christ for the bodies of his saints, these elect of God composing the Body of Christ, will end this present dispensation of the grace of God. That “appearing” is “the blessed hope” of every saved believer in Christ since the first century Day of Pentecost in 32 AD. That “appearing” has always been imminent/momentary and has nothing to do with the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ—when every eye shall see him (Zech. 12:10; Rev. 1:7)—at the close of the Great Tribulation, the “time of Jacob’s Trouble” (Jer. 30:7-Cool. Thus, the “present evil age” (Gal. 1:4) in which the “dispensation of the grace of God” (Eph. 3:1-2) sees the gospel of I Corinthians 15:1-6 preached in all the world, began on the day of Pentecost—50 days after Christ’s resurrection and 10 days after his ascension and seating at the right hand of his Father (Psalm 110:1)—with the person of the Holy Spirit entering the bodies of believers beginning the Body of Christ (I Cor 12:13, 27). That dispensation will end when the person of the Holy Spirit leaves this world with all the physical bodies of the saints in “the Body of Christ,” first the dead bodies and then our living bodies (I Thess. 4:13-18; Romans 8:11). This is called “the falling away” in II Thess. 2:3, which underlying Greek word—with the definite article—is clarified by the translation “the departure.” That departure will be the departure of the bodies of the believers composing the Body of Christ, first the dead and then the living.

When the person of the Holy Spirit is removed from the earth, there will be no more restraint of the devil’s “mystery of iniquity,” thus enabling “the Wicked One”—the Antichrist/Man of Sin—to be manifested. (II Thess. 2:1-12).

Thus, the person of the Holy Spirit was sent by the ascended Lord Jesus Christ and arrived into the world on the Day of Pentecost, 32 AD, to inhabit the bodies of believers throughout this “present evil age.” The Holy Spirit “sealed” all believers in Christ “until the day of redemption” of our bodies (Eph. 4:30), that “day of redemption” being “the appearing” of Christ for those bodies of his saints. This happened after the temporary suspension of the dispensation of the Mosaic Law, as national Israel has been temporarily “set aside” until the fullness of the elect Gentiles in the Body of Christ is completed (Rom. 11:25; II Cor 3:14-15). For we New Covenant believers of every race, language and nation are not under the Law of Moses, but under grace (Romans 6:14). When the Holy Spirit is removed from the earth at the “appearing” of Christ “in the air” for the bodies of his saints, it will not happen—as it cannot happen—during or after the 70th week of years as foretold by the Prophet Daniel (Dan. 9:27). For the Mosaic Law has been restored during that seven-year period evidenced by the fact that the two Hebrew prophets, Moses and Elijah, will be on the streets of Jerusalem for the first half of the week—1260 days (Rev. 11:3), after which the Man-Beast and his Gentile nations will tread down and oppress Jerusalem for 42 months, another three and one-half years (Rev. 11:2). And the Mosaic Law with its Aaronic priesthood and sacrifices will extend into the Millennial Kingdom in conjunction with the “New Covenant” to be established between God and restored, national Israel (Jer. 31:31).

Further, the gospel of the grace of God in Christ (I Cor. 15:1-6) cannot be preached at the same time the everlasting gospel of the Kingdom of Messiah (Rev. 14:6) is being preached, first by the two witnesses/two prophets (Rev. 11:3-12) and then by the the subsequent 144,000 racial Hebrew/Jewish/Israelites (Rev.7:2-8; 12:17) who will, before the end of the Great Tribulation, be killed by the forces of the Man-Beast; for they are seen in the heavenly Mount Zion (Rev. 14:1-5). Two separate gospels cannot be preached during a specific age—therefore the Body of Christ, preaching the gospel of the grace of God in Christ, cannot be on earth during the 70th week of Daniel which is a continuation of the Mosaic Law that was in force during the first 69 weeks of years (483 years) of the prophecy of Daniel 9:24-26.

Therefore, the “appearing” of Christ for the bodies of his Church saints must be before the final Roman/Papal-Caesar/King confirms an existing international peace treaty to begin the countdown of the 70th week of Daniel (Dan. 9:26-27). Therefore, the “appearing” is BEFORE the beginning of the the 70th week of years as well as before the beginning of the second half of the week called “the Great Tribulation” (Matt. 24:15-22).

Therefore, “the glorious appearing” of “our great God and Savior,” the Lord Jesus Christ (Titus 2:13-14), for the bodies of believers composing his Church can only be Pre-70th week of Daniel, not Pre-tribulational as the Great Tribulation begins only at mid-week. The common errors—as espoused on that history channel special—is that the entirety of the seven-year period is termed “the Great Tribulation” and that the “rapture” of the Church is at the end of “the Great Tribulation.” There will be a “gathering of the elect” at the end of the Great Tribulation (Matt. 24:31), but it is not “the appearing” of Christ under discussion.

Therefore, “the Blessed Hope” of the born-again, Reformation Bible-believing, New Testament Christian is the PRE-70th WEEK of YEARS “appearing” of the Lord Jesus Christ for the bodies of every one of his saints, first the dead and then the living. At this time we will receive “the redemption” of our bodies for which we presently groan (Romans 8:23).

Lord Bless,

Brother Eric

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(I used to really dig this kind of thing when I smoked a lot of weed. But now that I see how much the death dealers use this kind of rhetoric to kill millions, I prefer to look at it soberly and critically.)
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Fri 18 Dec 2009, 01:01

Your Kidding Qsc , is that real Very Happy i need some mescalin now cyclops
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Fri 18 Dec 2009, 09:31

its not really phelps is it Razz

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Post  seraphim on Mon 20 Sep 2010, 00:10

Who was B'OLON YOKTE?
Wikipedia says.........
Monument 6 from Tortuguero is currently generating discussion as it includes the only known inscription depicting the end of the current 13-Bak'tun era in 2012.[4][5] Grube, Martin and Zender have stated[6] it refers to “the end of the 13th b’ahktun which we will see in the year 2012” and as to what will happen, they say, “…utom, “it will happen” (O4) followed by something that we cannot read (P4) and he “will descend” yem (O5). The last glyph begins with ta followed by something. However, this is not the end of the world.”

This happy interpretation is supported by Markus Eberl and Christian Prager. They identify the fragmentary word translated above as "descent" seems to be the same one used during building dedications. They also point to a panel on Temple XIV at Palenque, which shows that a positive event took place on July 29, 931,449 B.C.E. involving a vision serpent named Sak Baak Na' Chapat and his deity K'awiil, which was overseen by B'olon Yokte' K'uh.[7]

Gillespie and Joyce[8] and also Houston and Stuart[9] have concurred that the inscription on Monument 6 concerns the god(s) Bolon Yokte’ K’uh - specifically “…a calendrical event in the early 21st century AD, at which time, apparently, the god may 'descend'.” Stuart has recently given a more complete translation: “"The Thirteenth Bak'tun" will be finished (on) Four Ahaw, the Third of K'ank'in. ? will occur. (It will be) the descent(?) of the Nine Support (?) God(s) to the ?."[10] Gronemeyer gives an epigraphic analysis and calendrical reconstruction of Monument 6 in his Master’s thesis,[11] with illustrations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortuguero_%28Maya_site%29

and then this..............
In two rare images of him,Found at an obscure ruin in southern Mexico during highway construction in the 1960s, the stone tablet almost didn't survive; the site was largely paved over, and parts of the tablet were looted. It's unique in that the remaining parts contain the equivalent of the date 2012. The inscription describes something that is supposed to occur in 2012 involving Bolon Yokte, a mysterious Mayan god associated with both war and creation. However - shades of Indiana Jones - erosion and a crack in the stone make the end of the passage almost illegible. Archaeologist Guillermo Bernal of Mexico's National Autonomous University interprets the last eroded glyphs as maybe saying, "He will descend from the sky."

B'olon Yokt'K'uh appear dressed for battle with lances and shields, wearing a diagnostic noose around their neck. It's concluded that these elements are characteristic ofa singular eity named B'olon Yokte'Kuh who is associated witht eh Underworld, warfare and sacrifice. A black deity with a scorpion tail and claw like upraised arm. Sir-7 scorpion.
In translation of the rabbit vase, the theme of the rabbit as a trickster found throughout the Maya area. Yet, there may have
been also an astronomical component to the scene. The back calculated ancient dates have found in both the Rabbit Vase and the related text from Temple XIV in Palenque specifically represent precise lunar calculations. The theft of the God L's owl hat (yokte bolom or his predecessor?) byt he rabbit in K1398 suggests the removal of his powers of darkness, and the triumph of the light over dark. The stripped God L then pleads with the Night Sun, behind whom the rabbit hides.

Among the Aztec, the counterpart of God L was Yacatecuhtli, the Nose Lord, the black patron God of merchents, because he had a prominent nose.
(White ethnicity? Is it clear that the bankers have been around..)
both God L and night sun refer to each other as ni-MAM
http://www.wayeb.org/notes/wayeb_notes0030.pdf
tortugeuro monument 6 and the prophecy of the 13 B'aktuns..........

God L presides over the events that take place in the darkness of the Underworld on the Era Base date 4 Ajaw 8 Kumk'u, as depicted on the Vase of the Seven Gods, fig, 5, Likewise, the ambiguous prophetic text on Tortuguero Monument 6 names B'olon Yokte' K'uh a descending or perhaps falling at the conclusion of the current era of 13 B'ak'tuns and the beginning of the next cycle 4 Ajaw 3 K'ank'in, soon to occur in 2012 CE. This is the only text known to deal with the much anticipated and debated future date, but it is significant that it singulary names B'olon Yokte' K'uh as descending to what may be a black place. Perhaps this is the same Underworld place of creation mentioned on the Vase of the Seven Gods as Black Dark center.
Thus, just as he presided over the last days of darkness prior to the inauguration of the current era, the aging B'olon Yokte' K'uh may
have been expected to assume his role and perhaps fall out of power in a larger cycle that recreates the yearly alternation between the powers of darkness and the powers of light on a grand scale. Taking into account the context of five hundred years of colonial experience and rapid cultural change, it is nonetheless poignant that the late Lacandon spiritual leader, Chan K'in Viejo, claimed that is is in fact the god of commerce and foreigners, Akyantho, who is currently in power, having taken over the sun from his brother, the principle diety Hachakyum. It is Akanthyo with his hat and pistol who will bring on the xu'tan, the end of this world.

It can be concluded that God L, is the diety known as B'olon Yokte'K'uh an Underworld god of weatlh warfare conflict
and sacrifice. Certainly as a god of cacao and the riches of the underlworld, God L's power invokes warfare and conflict
as well as mercantile trade and the wealth of kings. The contemporary counterpart of God L in the highlands of Maximon,
or simply Mam, grandfather. Among his attibutes this divininty is characterized by hypersexuality, witchcraft madness
and the sterility of the dry season.
Yet the mam is not an evil being, as are Western god enemies like Judas Iscariot. He is essential to the proper
regeneration of the earth because he provides the means whereby gods like Martin, patron of Maize, may pass
through sacrifical death to be reborn to a new life.
http://ancientscriptsblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/rabbit-scribes-adventures.html


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Post  seraphim on Mon 20 Sep 2010, 00:13

the princton vase

and blowgunners pot


blowgunner pic
http://www.mayavase.com/godl.pdf


But what happened to God L? In Popol Vuh, the equivalent of God L was killed, but it seems that in Classic times God L survived but is stripped of his clothes, jewelry, and hat and humiliated by the resurrected Maize God and the Hero Twins.

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Post  seraphim on Mon 04 Oct 2010, 04:54

Another Scorpian King


On the tableau at Gebel Tjauti, probably incised by flint tools, are figures and symbols that appear to depict the procession of a ruler returning to the city of Abydos after vanquishing the rival leader of Naqada. A falcon is drawn above a scorpion. The falcon is a standard symbol for the god Horus, and the name Horus is another word for king in Egyptian history. So the subject of the tableau is thought to be one King Scorpion, once assumed to be a mythic ruler.
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/16/science/carving-of-a-king-could-rewrite-history.html
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 09 Apr 2011, 19:09

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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 06 Oct 2012, 00:25

This is an interesting little speculation on the root beats of iran and the euroamerojews, especially relating to the beliefs on good or evil, dualism, monoism, semi god entitys etc , zara seeing good and evil as separate , juda seeing it from the same source

ZOROASTRIANISM, JUDAISM, AND CHRISTIANITY

Zoroastrianism, Judaism, and Christianity share so many features that it seems that there must be a connection between them. Does this connection really exist? If so, how did it happen? And how much of the similarity between these faiths is due simply to parallel evolution, rather than direct contact and influence?
The simplest answer to the first question is, yes, there is a great deal of Zoroastrian influence on Judaism and Christianity, but the problem is that it is hard to document this exactly, at least in the early stages of Judaism. The evidence is there, but it is all "circumstantial" evidence and often does not stand up to the rigorous judgment of scholarship. Nevertheless, I will dare to present these ideas assertively, with the qualification that there will likely be no definite way to prove them either true or untrue.

In 586 BCE, the forces of the Babylonian Empire conquered the Jews, destroying their Temple and carrying off a proportion of the Jewish population into exile. The captives consisted especially of educated and upper-class people as well as the royal family. This "Babylonian captivity" lasted almost fifty years. In 539 BCE the Persians, under the leadership of the Achaemenid King Cyrus, conquered Babylon, and in 538 Cyrus issued a decree stating that the Jews would be allowed to return to their homeland. Not only were the Exiles released, but Cyrus, and to some extent his Achaemenid successors, also supported the rebuilding of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus' policy was motivated not only by his religious tolerance (he also encouraged other, pagan peoples to maintain their own religions) but by statesmanlike wisdom; people treated generously are less likely to rebel.

But not all the Jews wanted to go home. In the years of Exile, the adaptable Jewish people had established themselves in Mesopotamia, settling there and engaging in business and even politics. Many Jews, while remaining devout Jews, did not go back to their homeland. They carried on their lives in their new home, and as the Persian Empire consolidated its rule, some Jews even rose to high positions of service in the imperial court.

It was during the end of the Exile, among the Jews now living in the Persian Empire, that the first significant contact was made between the Jewish and Iranian cultures. And it is evident in the Bible that Jewish thinking changed after the Exile. The question is then: are these changes the result of the cultural meeting of Jewish and Iranian thinkers, or are these changes due to the shock of Exile? During the Exile, Jews had to change not only how they worshipped, since they no longer had their temple or the animal sacrifices which had been at the center of their faith, but also how they thought about God. The Jewish concept of God as their tribal protector, who would save them from being conquered or exiled, had to undergo revision.

I believe that both factors are present, inspiring the changes in post-exilic Judaism: not only the Jews thinking new thoughts about God and humanity, but also contact with the Zoroastrian religion of the Persian Empire. But then another question arises: how did the ancient Jews learn about Zoroastrianism? It is highly unlikely that Jewish scholars and thinkers ever directly encountered Zoroastrian scriptures such as the Gathas (the founding text of the Zoroastrian faith, attributed to the Prophet Zarathushtra himself) or the Yashts (hymns of praise to various intermediate deities and guardian spirits, adapted from pre- Zarathushtrian mythology). The priestly usage and archaic language of the Avesta scriptures would be a barrier to Jews. But most of Zoroastrianism, known and practiced among the people, existed in oral tradition: through word of mouth, not by the study of written scriptures. This oral tradition included stories about God, the Creation, the ethical and cosmic conflict of Good and Evil, the divine Judgment and the end of the world. The tradition would also include the well-known Zoroastrian symbolism of fire, light and darkness, as well as stories and prayers about the yazatas or intermediate spiritual beings and the Prophet Zarathushtra. These are all elements of what might be called "classic" Zoroastrianism (as it developed from the "primal" Zoroastrianism of the Gathas).

This is how the Jews encountered Zoroastrianism - in private dialogues and political and civic experience, rather than in formal religious studies. And as the Jewish religion was re-made after the catastrophe of the Exile, these Zoroastrian teachings began to filter into the Jewish religious culture.

There are some venturesome scholars who say that the Jewish idea of monotheism was inspired by contact with Zoroastrian monotheism. While it is true that Jewish monotheistic ideas did change after the Exile, I do not believe that it was Zoroastrian contact which inspired this change. Rather, it was the fact of the Exile itself. Jewish thinkers and prophets even before the Exile were hinting at a concept of One God who was greater than just an ethnic divinity. When the Captivity threw these thinkers into a foreign culture, away from their divinely appointed homeland, it was necessary to broaden their idea of God to a more universal and abstract deity, who could be worshipped with praise and moral actions rather than animal sacrifices and liturgies. The concept of a single God whom all nations would eventually worship evolved among a conquered and exiled people no longer assured of their divinely protected status.

The Gathas of Zarathushtra, which may pre-date Cyrus by almost a thousand years, do describe God in universalist and abstract terms, but by the time of the Jewish contact, it is unclear just what type of monotheism was believed in the Zoroastrian community. Was it a true monotheism which worships only One God, to whom all other gods are either evil demons or simply non- existent? This seems to be the monotheism of Zarathushtra, but not of the Achaemenid kings of the Persian Empire, who were able to incorporate the veneration of subordinate divinities into their worship, as long as these subordinates were recognized as creations of the One God and not gods in their own right. The Jews, as we will see, would recognize angels as semi-divine intermediaries, but would not go so far as the Zoroastrians in honoring those intermediaries with hymns of praise such as the Yashts.

One of the most important differences beween Jewish monotheism and Zoroastrian monotheism is that Jews recognize the one God as the source of both good and evil, light and darkness, while Zoroastrians, during all the phases of their long theological history, think of God only as the source of Good, with Evil as a separate principle. There is a famous passage in Second Isaiah, composed during or after the Exile, which is sometimes cited as a Jewish rebuke to the Zoroastrian idea of a dualistic God: "I am YHVH, unrivalled: I form the light and create the dark. I make good fortune and create calamity, it is I, YHVH, who do all this." (Isaiah 45:7) This passage, which is a major source for Jewish speculation on the source of good and evil in the world, denies the Zoroastrian idea of a God who is the source only of "good" and favorable things.

Therefore I would not say that contact with Zoroastrian monotheism influenced Jewish monotheism. The philosophical minds of the two cultures may indeed have recognized each other as fellow monotheists, but this central Jewish doctrine is one which was not learned from the Zoroastrians. It grew from the original monotheistic revelation attributed to Moses, just as Zoroastrian monotheism grew from the revelation of Zarathushtra (who may indeed have been roughly contemporary, though completely unconnected, with Moses). These were two parallel journeys towards understanding of one God.

There are other developments, however, in the Jewish faith which are much more easily connected with Zoroastrian ideas. One of the most visible changes after the Exile is the emergence of a Jewish idea of Heaven, Hell, and the afterlife. Before the Exile and Persian contact, Jews believed that the souls of the dead went to a dull, Hades-like place called "Sheol." After the Exile, the idea of a moralized afterlife, with heavenly rewards for the good and hellish punishment for the evil, appear in Judaism. One of the words for "heaven" in the Bible is Paradise - and this word, from the ancient Iranian words pairi-daeza, "enclosed garden," is one of the very few definite Persian loan-words in the Bible. This moral view of the afterlife is characteristic of Zarathushtrian teaching from its very beginning in the Gathas.

It is also thought that the Jewish idea of a coming Savior, or Messiah, was influenced by Zoroastrian messianism. Already in the book of Second Isaiah, possibly written during the Exile, the prophet speaks of a Savior who would come to rescue the Jewish people: a benefactor, "anointed" by God to fulfill his role (the word "messiah" means "anointed one"). In many verses, he identifies Cyrus the liberator as that Messiah. The growth of messianic ideas is parallel in both Jewish and Iranian thought. Zarathushtra, in his Gathas, describes a saoshyant (savior) as anyone who is a benefactor of the people. Similarly in Jewish prophecy, the Messiah is not a single special Savior but anyone who does great things for the Jewish people - even if that person is a Persian King. But as both Persian and Jewish savior-mythology evolve, the Saoshyant - and the Messiah - take on a special, individual, almost divine quality which will be very important in the birth of Christianity.

The conquests of Alexander of Macedon in the fourth century BCE created the first "global" culture (at least for the Western world) in which people, goods, and ideas could circulate from southern Europe, through the Middle East, all the way to Iran and India, and vice versa. It was in this cosmopolitan, Hellenistic world that Jews and Persians had further contact, and the Zoroastrian influence on Judaism became much stronger. This influence is clearly visible in the later Jewish writings such as the Book of Daniel and the books of the Maccabees, which were written in the second century BCE.

An interesting Biblical account of Zoroastrian-Jewish contact, as well as an early attestation of Middle Eastern petroleum, appears in the Second Book of the Maccabees (which is not found in Jewish Bibles, only in Catholic Christian ones). This document dates from about 124 BCE, which places it among the latest books of the Old Testament - so late that the Jewish canon does not recognize it. In the first chapter of this book, there is a story of how the Jewish altar fire was restored to the Temple after the Captivity. Jewish Temple practice required a continuously burning flame at the altar (Exodus 27:20) though this flame did not have the special "iconic" quality of the Zoroastrian sacred fire. Nevertheless, during the restoration of the Jewish temple, this story arose and is repeated in the Book of the Maccabees, four hundred years later: "When the matter (restoring the fire) became known and the king of the Persians heard that in the place where the exiled priests had hidden the fire a liquid had appeared, with which Nehemiah and his people had purified the materials of the sacrifice, the king, after verifying the facts, had the place enclosed and pronounced sacred." (2 Maccabees 1:33-34) This shows that at least at the time of the composition of 2 Maccabees, the Jewish writers were aware of the Zoroastrian reverence for fire - and also that, if the story is true, the Zoroastrians saw and respected similarities in practice between their own religion and that of the Jews. The fiery liquid cited here is petroleum, called "naphtha," a word which arises from a combination of Persian and Hebrew words.

The Iranian influence continues to be evident in Jewish writings from what is known as the "inter-testamental" period, that is, after the last canonical book of the Old Testament and before Christianity and the composition of the New Testament. This covers an era between about 150 BCE to 100 CE. These Jewish inter-testamental writings describe a complicated hierarchy of angelic beings, in an echo of the Zoroastrian concept of the holy court of the Yazatas. The Jewish idea of seven chief archangels probably has its inspiration in the seven Amesha Spentas, the highest guardian spirits of Zoroastrian belief. Jews had their own ideas of angels long before they encountered Zoroastrianism; angels were nameless, impersonal representatives of God's message and action. But after the Exile, Jewish angels gain names and personalities, and also are spoken of as guardians of various natural phenomena, just like the Zoroastrian yazatas. The Jewish and Christian idea of a personal "guardian angel" may also have been inspired by the Zoroastrian figure of the fravashi, the divine guardian-spirit of each individual human being.

Zoroastrian influence on Judaism is also evident in the evolution of Jewish ideas about good, evil, and the End of Time. The original statement of the famous Zoroastrian dualism of good and evil is found in the Gathas, where Zarathushtra describes the two conflicting principles of good and evil in what might be called psychological, or ethical terms. Human beings are faced with the existence of good and evil within themselves - he describes these principles as the "beneficent" and the "hostile" spirits - and everyone must make the choice for Good in order to follow God's will.

But by the Hellenistic era, Zoroastrianism had already developed its doctrine of "cosmic dualism" - the idea that the entire Universe is a battlefield between the One Good God, Ahura Mazda, and the separate Spirit of Evil, Ahriman. This view of dualism is a symbolic transformation, and an expansion, of the more psychologically based teaching of Zarathushtra that good and evil are ethical choices and states of mind.

Both "cosmic" and "ethical" dualism coexist in Zoroastrian thought throughout the long history of the faith; their history is not one of a "pristine" idea of ethical dualism which is supplanted or "corrupted" by the idea of cosmic dualism. And reflections of both types of dualism are found in Jewish thinking. The Biblical book of Deuteronomy, like the other early books of the Old Testament, was re-edited and possibly even re-written during and after the Exile. An important passage in Deuteronomy 30:15 shows a Jewish version of ethical dualism:

"See, today I set before you life and prosperity, death and disaster. If you obey the commandments of YHVH your God that I enjoin on you today, if you love YHVH your God and follow His ways, if you keep His commandments, His laws, His customs, you will live and increase, and YHVH your God will bless you in the land which you are entering to make your own. But if your heart strays, if you refuse to listen, if you let yourself be drawn into worshipping other gods and serving them, I tell you today, you will most certainly perish....I set before you life or death, blessing or curse. Choose life, then, so that you and your descendants may live...." (Deut. 31:15-19, Jerusalem Bible translation)

Even though the original text of the Gathas was most probably inaccessible to the Jews, the teachings of Zarathushtra were part of the religious culture of the Persian people among whom many Jews lived. An interesting notion in Jewish moral thought which may have been somewhat inspired by Zoroastrian ethical dualism is the idea of the "evil impulse" and the "good impulse" (Hebrew, "yetzer tov, " good impulse, and "yetzer hara," evil impulse.). This idea seems to arise in the rabbinic thought of that "inter-testamental" period in which Jews encountered both Greek and Zoroastrian ideas. In this Jewish moral meditation, God gives human beings both a "good impulse" and an "evil impulse," and they must learn to choose between the promptings of these two mentalities.

What gives this idea a Jewish "twist" quite different from the original Zoroastrian teaching is that the evil impulse, in Jewish thought, is not entirely evil. It is not, like the Zarathushtrian "hostile spirit," completely inimical to goodness. The Jewish "evil impulse" is only evil when it is obeyed and yielded to without restraint. The evil impulse is sinful lust in excess, but in moderation it is necessary in order to prompt people to procreate; it is sinful greed in excess, but in right order, it is the drive behind trade and the pursuit of lawful profit. The Jewish "evil impulse" thus resembles Freud's concept of the "id," the amoral motive power behind human actions either for good or evil - and indeed, Freud was inspired by Jewish moral philosophy in his own thinking.

But despite these Jewish reflections of ethical dualism, it is the doctrine of "cosmic dualism," with its mythological and symbolic content, that most influenced the later Jewish thinkers. Even before the Exile, under the threat of destruction by foreign empires, Jewish prophets were moving toward a vision of not only political, but cosmic war and catastrophe. This type of prophecy, after the Exile, evolved into apocalyptic (from the Greek word apokalypsis which means "revelation"). This is a form of religious storytelling, poetry, and preaching which uses a high level of mythological symbolism to describe not only a cosmic battle between the forces of Good and Evil, but also a schedule for the coming End of Time.

Zoroastrianism, from the beginning, has taught that time and God's creation has a beginning, a middle, and an end-time in which all souls will be judged. The Zarathushtrian teachings were later elaborated and illustrated with mythological motifs, many of them borrowed from the pre-Zoroastrian Indo-Iranian gods and goddesses, as well as myths of cosmic conflict from ancient Mesopotamia. Later Zoroastrianism also teaches of a specific sacred time-line, a historical structure for the created world. The Zoroastrians are often credited with introducing eschatology, or the knowledge of the End of Time and its events, into the religious world of both West and East.

All religions borrow from their predecessors and adapt old material for their new dispensation, and Judaism is no exception. The Iranian world of angels and demons, light and darkness, God and an Adversary, and a sacred time-line, enters into the Jewish universe of apocalypse. Many of these apocalyptic writings survive from the "inter-testamental" period, such as the Book of Enoch, a compilation of spectacular visions about angels, demons, and the Last Judgment. The Jewish apocalyptic idea of the End of Time, as well as a final Judgment by God when that End arrives, owes a great deal to Zoroastrian thinking.

This Zoroastrian connection becomes even more evident in the writings of Jewish sects, such as the Essenes. Due to archeological finds such as the "Dead Sea Scrolls" and the "Nag Hammadi Library," the modern world can know what these ancient devotees believed - and some of these beliefs show direct Zoroastrian influence. This is especially true in the text known as the "Essene Manual of Discipline," which, like the apocalyptic texts, describes a war between the Spirit of Light and the Spirit of Darkness, as well as the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Error, and an ultimate End-Time when the battle will be won. This Essene text sometimes sounds almost exactly like the Gathas, which are more than a millennium older: "For God has established the two spirits in equal measure until the last period, and has put eternal enmity between their divisions. An abomination to truth are deeds of error, and an abomination to error are all ways of truth..." (Essene Manual of Discipline, from THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS ed. Millar Burrows) It could be a free translation of the dualistic verses of the Gathas.

It is from these Jewish sects, as well as the Jewish mainstream, that Christianity emerged. The claiming of Jesus as the awaited Messiah was meant to answer Jewish hopes, and possibly usher in the End of Time, much as the Zoroastrians expected of their Saoshyant. It is in the context of the coming Saoshyant that the story in the second chapter of Matthew's Gospel (it is a story, not a historical event!) of the Three Magi should be read; these astrologers, who are thought to be Zoroastrians, were following the Savior-signs of their own religion when they sought out the infant Jesus. The famous Prologue of the Gospel of John ("In the beginning was the Word....") has many elements suggestive of Zoroastrian influence, including philosophical and ethical dualism, and the light/darkness metaphor so characteristic of Zoroastrianism. "And that life was the light of men, a light that shines in the dark, a light that darkness could not overpower." (John 1: 4-5)

It is often said that the figure of Satan, prince of Evil, was inspired by Zoroastrian teachings about Ahriman, the adversary of Ahura Mazda. But the Jewish idea of the "Adversary" (which is what "satan" means) is not quite like the Zoroastrian Ahriman. In the post-exilic Book of Job, Satan is an adversary, but he is also God's loyal servant, doing God's work by testing a righteous man. Some of the early Talmudic rabbis identified the "evil impulse" with Satan, but that idea was not completely accepted. Indeed, the features of Judaism that are most indebted to Zoroastrianism, such as angels, devils, Heaven and Hell, and eschatology, tended to fade among believers in later centuries, and they are no longer emphasized in the Jewish mainstream, though they continue to hold sway among Jewish sects such as the Hasidim.

It is in Christianity that the doctrine of the Devil is almost identical to the Zoroastrian concept. The Devil, or Satan, is a being who CHOSE to be evil, through pride, just as Zarathushtra's evil spirit chose to do evil; and this devil, as Christians believe, not only roams about attempting to corrupt people, but has corrupted the physical world as well, just as Ahriman does in the later Zoroastrian teachings.

Christianity also adopted Jewish - and Zoroastrian - apocalyptic myths about cosmic battles and the upcoming end of the world into its own doctrine. The Christian book of Revelation, the last book in the New Testament canon, is a later example of a form that goes back all the way through its Jewish sources to the distant, ancient worlds of Iran and Mesopotamia.

There are many devoted Jewish and Christian believers who deny that Zoroastrianism had any influence on their religions. In their view, this would compromise the unique revelations from God which characterize these religions. But there are other believers who follow a more universalist path. To these believers, the "seeds of wisdom" are found in every religion, including paganism and Zoroastrianism. Every religion has its grains of Truth, seeds which can be sown and grown in the garden of a new revelation, whether that is Jewish or Christian. In this view, it is not only not wrong to adapt what went before into the new faith, but it is essential. Thus nothing that is true will be lost.
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 06 Oct 2012, 00:40

part 2

what we may have today is the israel state run by modern zionistic idealists based in western strongholds having a deep fanatical "ancestral perpetuated faith" that good and evil come from the one god source and that through unspecified perverted craft ritual, these practitioners themselfs become like the gods reps on the physical earth and are free to dish out good and evil acts as they see fit to align with their end day new world order

And opposing them is Iran whose beliefs and motives are still zoroastrianism with iran as the good guys and israel as the evil seed

Thus the dispute about the actual age and origin of Zoroastrianism has a long history all the way back to the Magi in antiquity as well as the Greek philosophers (Kingsley, p. 245). Irrespective of its exact date of origin, however, we do know a lot about the actual content and cosmology of Zoroastrianism. Probably the most important source are the Ghatas, a compendium of loosely connected ancient hymns that are said to have been composed by Zoroaster himself.

From these early sources we learn that according to Zoroastrianism the most distinct aspect of creation is an eternal struggle between two opposing forces, played out on various levels of existence. On the divine level we find the concepts of ‘ahuras’ and ‘daevas’. (Blois, p.3: The latter term survives in modern Persian as dew, Western Persian div, "demon").

First and foremost among the ahuras is Ahura Mazda or Spenta Mainyu (Holy Spirit, ref. Dhalla, 1914, p.48) the principal creator god and the only ahura mentioned by name in the Ghatas. (Note: this is also why Zoroastrianism is also called Mazdaism, according to the principle divine being of AHura Mazda). The eternal struggle between him, Ahura Mazda and his devil opponent Ahriman or Angra Mainyu (i.e. Evil Spirit, ref. Dhalla, 1914, p.48) forms the fundament and background of all events and fates on earth as well as the central divine dynamic within Zoroastrianism (Panati, p.252/358).

“Life is co-operation with good and conflict with evil. Good and evil are co-existing polarities. Man can think of things only in terms of their opposites. Light is light because of darkness. Health is a coveted boon, as its loss heralds sickness. Life is valued as Ahura Mazda's most incomparable gift, as lurking death threatens its extinction. Happiness is pleasant, for misery is unbearable. Riches rise in worth owing to the dread of poverty. Joy is gratifying, for sorrow aims at killing it. Virtue is the health of the spirit, for vice is its disease. Righteousness is the life of the spirit, for wickedness spells its death. There can be no compromise between good and evil. Incessant warfare is raging between good and evil. Man's duty is to commend good and co-operate with it; to condemn evil and enter into conflict with it.” (Dhalla, 1938, Chapter X, link)
As we learn from this quote man is given an active role to play in this transcendent battle. He is placed right in the middle between the two opposing forces of truth and order facing chaos, falsehood and destruction. Based on his free will it is his active choice to support either the forces of Ahura Mazda or Ahriman that can tip of the scales and decide about the fate of life and all of creation ultimately. Thus the necessity for an ethical life is deeply embedded in Zoroastrian religion and pursuing truth and order through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds became one of the central pillars of its everyday practice. Furthermore, the position of man towards the divine is less of a subordinate and more of a devoted partner or co-creator of reality (Winston, BBC 2005).

This eternal battle between Ahura Mazda and his devil opponent Ahriman forms the most transcendent layer of creation where these two opposing forces collide. Yet, as we will see later it is on the next lower layer, the one closely connected to the nature of the human soul where this struggle is fought just as hard (Blois, p.4) - and we shall encounter possibly one of the earliest version of the concept of the Holy Guardian Angel.
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 18 May 2013, 14:20

TRANSHUMANISM - but not as everyone agrees it should come

The Ubermensch, the Superman and the Posthuman

In the most vicious yet thorough attack against transhumanism to date, Dr. Klaus-Gerd Giesen, a professor of political sciences at the University of Leipzig in Germany, wrote, among other things, in Transhumanism and Human Genetics (a widely-cited polemical article written in French for the Genetics Observatory, a project of the Centre for Bioethics of the Clinical Research Institute of Montreal):

Encasing the figure of the nietzchean superman - which, by the way, is a constant reference for transhumanists - in an absurd biological materialism that would no doubt amuse the German philosopher, transhumanists push their nihilism to the point of speculating about the members of the privileged stratum of society eventually enhancing themselves and their offspring to a point where the human species, for many practical purposes, splits into two or more species that have little in common except a shared evolutionary history.

Since it is a criticism that I often hear that may or may not have some validity, I decided to re-familiarize myself with the exact definition of these terms in contention.

In Thus spake Zarathustra, Nietzsche explains the steps through which man can become an Ubermensch ( the equivalent English translation would be ‘over-human’ ):

1. By his will to power, manifested destructively in the rejection of, and rebellion against, old ideals and moral codes;
2. By his will to power, manifested creatively in overcoming nihilism (any philosophy that, rejecting the real world around us and physical existence along with it, results in an apathy toward life and a poisoning of the human soul) and re-evaluating old ideals or creating new ones.
3. By a continual process of self-overcoming.

The most common misconception about the Ubermensch is that it is equivalent to the ideals of Nazism, and that it is related or equal to the concept of Herrenvolk ("master race"). The concept of racial supremacy or antisemitism is absent in Nietzsche. It is widely believed that Nietzsche’s sister, Elisabeth Forster-Nietzsche, contributed greatly to this misconception by deliberately misrepresenting his work, and the Nazis themselves reinterpreted and incorporated hodgepodge elements of many philosophical and religious texts, including Nietzsche’s.

The translation of Ubermensch as “superman” may compound the misconception. Uber can have a variety of meanings, as in Uberwindung ("overcoming"), uberstehen/durchstehen ("come through"/"get over"), ubersetzen ("translate"/"take across"). Some scholars therefore prefer the translation as Overman, since the point of the Ubermensch is that man needs to overcome himself.

The German adverb “ubermenschlich” is common and used in contexts such as “mit ubermenschlichen Kraften gelang es ihm…”: “with a force no human being is capable of he managed to…” or “with superhuman force…”, the connotation is that of leaving the human sphere. Parallel constructions can be found in ubernaturlich ("no longer natural”, “transcendental"), uberirdisch ("heavenly", literally “unearthly"). “Superman” lacks the German connotation of a sphere beyond human knowledge and power. In addition, Mensch is less specifically male than the English man, closer at times to the English human. Mensch is to be understood as a neuter form of a noun.

Nietzsche’s writings are spiritual and philosophical in character, and do not state that the central ideas are biological, psychological, sociological, or sociobiological. His ideas have no firm connection to the claim of superiority of any particular race or ethnicity, and thus they are not racist in themselves.

On the other hand, a Superman, or more precisely, a superhuman is an entity with intelligence or abilities exceeding normal human standards. Superhuman can mean an “improved” human, for example, by genetic modification, or as what humans might evolve into, in the distant future. Occasionally, it could mean a “normal” human with unusual abilities, such as psychic abilities or exceptional proficiency at something. Superhuman can also mean something that isn’t human, but considered to be “superior” to humans in some ways. A robot that easily passed the Turing test, and could do some things humans can’t, could be considered superhuman. A very intelligent or strong alien could be considered superhuman. The concept of the superhuman is quite popular in science fiction, where superhumans are often mutants or genetically engineered.

And finally, according to the Transhumanist FAQ, a Posthuman is a hypothetical future being,

“whose basic capacities so radically exceed those of present humans as to be no longer human by our current standards ... Posthumans could be artificial intelligences, or they could be uploaded consciousnesses, or they could be the result of making many smaller but cumulatively profound augmentations to a biological human. The latter alternative would probably require either the redesign of the human organism using advanced nanotechnology or its radical enhancement using some combination of technologies such as genetic engineering, psychopharmacology, anti-aging therapies, neural interfaces, advanced information management tools, memory enhancing drugs, wearable computers, and cognitive techniques.”

In conclusion, whether or not Nietzche would have approved of the transhumanist goal of becoming a Posthuman is open to debate. However, there can no doubt that, if Nietzche was alive today, he would be deeply offended by the attempt of some transhumanists to equate his concept of the Ubermensch with their concept of the Posthuman. Although a small minority of transhumanists will strongly disagree due to confirmation bias, since Nietzche’s Ubermensch is obviously not related to the concept of the Superman of science-fiction nor the posthuman of transhumanist speculation, the Ubermensch should never be a reference for well-informed transhumanists or anti-transhumanists.

TRANSHUMANIST ASSOCIATION


The Ramblings of RAEL

It was in 1973, during his first close encounter of the Third Kind, that the Elohim supposedly gave Claude Vorilhon the name of Rael. “It literally means,” he details in The Book that tells the truth, “Light of God” or, for a more precise translation, “Light of the Elohim”. Curiously, three years earlier, French television aired an episode of Star Trek: The Original Series, in which one the characters was called… Rael.

Rael’s theories? Kooky but definitely not original. He recycles more than he invents. Among his acknowledged or secret influences…

the alleged sightings of Greys; the hedonism of Charles Fourier; the sectarianism of Saint-Simon; the politics of Plato and Jean-Marie Le Pen; the religion of Buddhism; the libertarianism of Jiddu Krishnamurti; the poetry of Khalil Gibran; the mythology of Genesis; the esoterica of the ”L’Aventure Mystérieuse” series; the UFOlogy of George Adamski; the symbology and eugenics of Nazism; the Blake & Mortimer comic book; and the science-fiction of The Fifth Element, The Matrix series, A. E. van Vogt, Aldous Huxley, Roger Zelazny, and Pierre Bordage.

However, Rael has two other and major influences that are awkward for transhumanists: the technological predictions of Hans Moravec, Eric Drexler, and Ray Kurweil.

When we read Rael’s ravings about mind uploading, advanced nanotechnology, and, of course, the promise of immortality, it’s obvious that he synthesizes in a distorted fashion the visions of Moravec, Drexler and Kurzweil, with an intentionally religious rhetoric, which is not only used for tax purposes.

However, he introduces a small yet very clever personal nuance: rapid-growth cloning. So, in the future, when you die, you could download your mind into a young adult body, so rapidly grown that it wouldn’t have memories of its own, in order to benefit from personal immortality. Rael is smart. He knows that if a normal clone of you (that doesn’t have your downloaded mind) attends your funeral, it will not be you that lives on but your twin sibling. So, with this ruse, he has overcome the usual criticism of cloning.

So it shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that “Rael” and “Raelian” are the two words that come up the most in the frequently asked questions for transhumanist activists, especially those located in Quebec, the current home of the Raelian movement…

Since Rael continues to hurt the very transhumanist cause he praises in his books and speeches, the following is my unsollicited advice for our techno-prophet:

1. Hold a press conference where you publicly confess that Raelianism is an organized lie;

2. Liquidate the assets of the Raelian movement to donate most of the money to legitimate cult awareness networks and become their most vocal spokesperson; and

3. If you can’t abandon the joys of being a religious leader, join the Unitarian Universalist Association, the only creedless religion whose principles and purposes you could endorse. I’m sure that someone as charismatic as you could convince a majority of your followers to contine… following you.

Think about it, Claude. We all know you’re a publicity seeker so, short of really producing the first human clone, what could you do that could possibly top the spectacle of such a mea culpa and path to redemption?

THE RAELIAN MOVEMENT

Theres a 6 min intro in this vid but some interesting specs after

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Post  bedido on Tue 21 Jan 2014, 16:39

On Jung and The Red Book
Carl Gustav Jung & The Red Book



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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Sat 25 Jan 2014, 22:41

The Christian community is having their 2012-type rumblings about the upcoming 4 blood moons over the next two years happening on Jewish high holy days with solar eclipses occurring sometime in between these blood moons.



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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sun 26 Jan 2014, 02:31

Im putting out a public warning to all good wise goats qsc, because those fanatics seem to love the spill an taste of animal blood during their rituals
I was face to face with a goat recently and wow those dudes have deep recognitive wisdom in their eyes
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Post  Sputnik on Sun 26 Jan 2014, 11:50

quicksilvercrescendo wrote:The Christian community is having their 2012-type rumblings about the upcoming 4 blood moons over the next two years happening on Jewish high holy days with solar eclipses occurring sometime in between these blood moons.

Only those crazy american types though.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Sun 26 Jan 2014, 14:10

Certainly.

Here is one of the most vocal Christian-Zionist psychopaths out there today explaining the blood moons...

...at 8:29 he flashes the hand sign...



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Post  bedido on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 07:02


Black Moon happens when there are two New Moon's in a month such as this very month!
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Sat 08 Mar 2014, 01:40

An interesting interpretation of The Book of Revelation Endtime Prophecies...





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Post  Sputnik on Sat 08 Mar 2014, 09:15

Very intersting indeed, and the Douay-Rheims Bible  is the right one to use if one at all wants to take the bible seriously into account. Any later version has been altered and it's liturgy corrupted.

I don't know when this lecture was made, but in this second part he obviously mistakes the "who is who" of kings, as we can for sure say that Putin is actually is a devout Orthodox Christian for which Israel hates him dearly while Obama is in fact a Muslim with familiy members leading the Muslim Brotherhood. It is also pretty obvious today that Obama is a communist of sorts while Putin is more of a Royalist of sorts trying to reconcile Russia with it's "own imperial glory" to dominate itself once again.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Mon 10 Mar 2014, 18:37

Of all the Christians out there interpreting Bible prophecy, I would recommend looking over this guy's material.
He is very responsive to any questions or comments you may have on his youtube channel.
So if there is something that you question, he will usually take time to elaborate.

His take is that Russia will invade the west and win during WWIII...which is coming while Obama is still president.
But that is just the beginning leading up to another war which is Armageddon.
So should WWIII not occur prior to Obama leaving office, then his interpretations are discredited.

Putin is not a good guy in these matters.  There are no good guys.
It is unfortunate that the US has been engaged in imperialism since 1991.
Putin will serve as the only counter-balance regarding this, but there are those who wait in the wings wringing their hands ready to take control after the east and the west exhaust themselves through warfare.
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Post  tgII on Tue 11 Mar 2014, 22:46

re: Interesting proposition for WWIII.

SOTT.net had an interesting article up on this same material and
after trying to go back to grab the url to link here couldn't find it.

Something about our behavior being so predictable these "end
time" scenarios are almost automatic.

That Putin is a good guy isn't exactly what I see Vladimir Putin
fulfilling his role as, but one thing is certain: this isn't West verses
East like it is being portrayed. Rather, it is Britain verses Russia
in a centuries long struggle.

British brains; American muscle. Americans don't have the intellectual
fire power to get themselves out of this conflict. Every where I turn I
see Britain at critical junctures in American institutions without hardly
an exception.

For example: yesterday I was watching a video of an interview with
an American executive whose firm was sold to Serco. The woman
doing the interview runs a company that acts as a go between for
American corporations to get contracts with the U.S. Government.
It's like fascism with a soft glove. The woman doing the interview
was British. A British woman in the U.S. running a large company
working with American corporations securing lucrative contracts with
the U.S. Government in departments involved with national security?

The thing about these types of scenarios though gets hard to explain
is that the largest corporation on earth is Serco, the British
conglomerate. Serco has control of the nuclear keys, no Serco and no
armageddon. So I am wondering, how does that fit into these "end
time" scenarios without figuring in Serco?

Also, Serco controls the most sensitive and accurate clock in the world.
How would Serco time a nuclear attack to get that edge over Russia in
launching?

And as far as east verses west goes again, I see Russia as being a
tremendously good force for "good" in that if the difference between the
Roman cult and the Russian Orthodox Church can be recognized, then
it can be seen that Russia has the prospects of preserving anything
"western" in man's spirituality. Remember, the cult of Rome has
claimed the soul and have corporatized it.
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Post  Sputnik on Wed 12 Mar 2014, 15:42

Serco has control of the nuclear keys, no Serco and no armageddon. So I am wondering, how does that fit into these "end time" scenarios without figuring in Serco wrote:

Oh really? Can you back this up with a link? I would think Russia has covered this up by know. What about their dead man's switch? What makes you think UK controls Russian nuclear missles?
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