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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Fri 11 Dec 2009, 17:24

Tsarion's Trees of Life article/appendices to The Irish Origins of Civilization...

This is, in my opinion, one of Tsarion's best-written articles.
http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/appendices/trees.html

Tsarion's Trees of Life interview...
http://gnosticmedia.podomatic.com/entry/2009-12-07T00_03_15-08_00

Michael,

Just finished the Tree(s) of Life appendices and listened to the interview.

It was superb. After reading it, I felt the same way you do when you finish a really good meal. Full and content with all senses fulfilled. The comprehensiveness of the article satisfied completely.

And meaningful for me at this time as my inner ponderings of things run parallel to much of the information you have provided and fills in many gaps.

Particularly along the lines of the "conversion" from an earlier belief system to the Atonist system of today, and how this has been portrayed in the elite handbook and story...the Bible.

Considering these co-opted aspects of astro-theology, the goddess, the tree etc. in regards to the history of the past to the later Christian re-tellings, how would these concepts translate into what is stated in the Book of Revelation which is presented as having a future prognosis for mankind?

As we can plainly see the male Jesus being a "corruption" of the goddess with this feminine to masculine alteration. Along with other major corruptions the whole story is convoluted and filled with pitfalls in taking it literally as an uncompromising truth.

My mind forms these questions around your work...

How does this alteration of the earlier beliefs translate, or are altered to the figures of the false/Anti-Christ and the supposed coming Messiah?

If the sacred is demonized in the Bible, and up is down and down is up due to its alteration and promotion of a power hierarchy, then what do these two "future" figures really represent?

Would we not assume that the first to come, the Anti-Christ would be something that Christianity would be purposefully mis-representing and lambasting for a reason? As this would be consistent with the modus operandi. And its relation to the NWO?

And that does this mean to the supposed second one to come? The returning Jesus Christ figure who will now usurp this worldly ruler and establish a kingdom of Jerusalem? Would both the anti-christ and the returning christ figures just be another example of the dichotomous manipulative tool used by the controllers?

It would be interesting to read, or consider your take on how the future tellings of the Bible and how they may be re-interpreted with the malicious alterations of symbols and figures from an older and more genuine (connection to man and nature) system of beliefs.

Could they basically be aspects of self now approaching the Age of Revealing (Aquarius). And "dealing" with the evil within and within the collective. Because the supposed resolution of evil is a major concern in the Book of Revelation.

And would have a reflexive societal effect that would also be translated into the Book of Revelations terms. And it most certainly describes a "mass death" experience with war, natural disasters and many perishing...and perhaps not just from external causes.

Yet, the elite would actually be promoting a literal interpretation of the scriptures and would be doing their best to actually "create" it as reality.
But would that not make their savior, potentially, "their man". If the deception and alteration is consistent throughout the Bible story, not just regarding the past, but what the book/story is said to come.

It would seem the past regarding the Golden Calf story was the story of the transition from one age to another. And the Book of Revelation would be the story of the transition from the Age of Pisces into Aquarius. I will look to the two stories for parallels in perhaps gaining some understanding.

Q.

I then sent this information to provide further support to Tsarion's thesis, except these recent discoveries come from the pre-Christian East.

The Holy Trees of China...dated to 3,000 years old. There were eight total trees unearthed, but three distinct historical/mythological trees discovered, these three possibly later morphing into the three pillars of masonry as stated in Tsarion's article/interview linked above.

Discovered back in the late 1980s.

Sanxingdui, also called Guanghan Sanxingdui, which is situated in Southwest China’s Sichuan Basin, is the ruins of the Bronze Age in the middle and late Shang Dynasty. The name was entailed for that its appearance resembles three earth pits. The excavation began in 1980. Two large sacrificial pits of the Sanxingdui were unearthed in 1986, becoming instant stirring news in the whole world. More than a thousand pieces of priceless treasures were dug out, including bronze wares, jade wares, ivories, shells, earthen wares, gold wares, etc. The bronze wares include vessels, weapons, large standing human figures, head portraits, animal figures, and masks etc. The bronze head portraits feature exaggerated styling and rich local flavor; the standing human figures depict characters with big eyes, straight nose, square face, and huge ears. The human figures, with hats, long robes and anklets on, are believed to be prototypes of local people in ancient times. The highest figure measures 2.62m and is the world’s biggest and best preserved bronze upright human figure. In addition, 4m-plus-high divine trees are more amazing. The discovery of the bronze articles demonstrates the existence of large-sized sculptures in the Shang Dynasty, which were created by ancient Shu people. And for the first time, people get a chance to peek into the highly developed bronze civilization of the Kingdom of Shu in the middle and later period of Shang Dynasty and its unique charms. The articles are precious for their value in studies. Also excavated from the Sanxingdui ruins are the world’s two earliest gold wands, which are 1.42m in length and 700g in weight, with human heads, fishes, and birds carved on them.

The sacrificial pits are believed to be sites for the ancient Shu people to offer sacrifice to Heaven, Earth, mountains, rivers, and other natural gods. The upright figures and seated figures are respectively prayers and emcees, bronze animal-faced masks with protruding eyes and flat bronze animal-faced masks may be natural gods worshiped by the Shu people; bronze divine trees modeled upon real plants reflect the Shu people’s religious consciousness of plant worshipping.

The discovery of Sanxingdui shocked the world, but the history of the ruins remains a mystery. The bronze wares from the Sanxingdui we see today are but only small scraps of an immemorial and brilliant civilization. Where was the Sanxingdui culture from? Which clan did the residents of the ruins belong to? How did the advanced bronze manufacture techniques come into being? And how did they decline and die out? The archaeological project at the Sanxingdui ruins is ongoing. Mysterious and magnificent, the Sanxingdui civilization is a unique and dazzling page in China’s long history.


"Many trees are featured in classical Chinese myths, the most representative including the Fusang in the east, the Janmu in the center and the Ruomu in the west. These trees are similar in nature to the the cosmic trees of foreign myths, illustrating similar conceptions and way of thinking about nature.

The holy trees had various characteristics and functions, one of which was the axis mundi for ascending to heaven. The trees at Sanxingdui should be regarded as composite holy trees representing both the Fusang and Jianmu in the classical myths, whose primary function was to facilitate ascension to heaven. The holy trees connected heaven and earth, gods and humans. The gods descended to the earth by such trees, whereby the shamans ascended to heaven. The dragon climbing in the tree was perhaps the steed that the shaman rode.

The Sanxingdui holy trees are splendid examples of cosmic trees in China. They vividly portray the ancient mythological understanding of the union and correspondence between heaven and humankind, and the communication between gods and mortals".

About 12 to 18 feet high...in bronze...depending on which tree...
It is quite likely three trees became the three pillars of Masonry...






From the same excavation...this may very much correlate with the polar celestial bodies as being part of the pre-Christian belief systems...Draconis...


The masks...
The gold mask was finely made with gold sheet by hammering, exactly shaped for fitting the bronze head figure, and covering the forehead, chin and ears. The earlobes were socketed and the eyebrows and eyes hollowed out. The bronze head figure with gold mask is identical, almost in all details, to the others without a mask.

The mask was joined to the bronze head by mixing an adhesive of raw lacquer and lime.

The gold mask stuck on the bronze head figure found at Sanxingdui suggests that gold was already valued and worshipped by the ancient Shu people in the Shang Dynasty. In addition to being more beautiful, the gold mask should have some specific functions in religious activities. Is it used to entertain the deities to make the divinity, represented by these head sculptures, more effective? Or is the person, represented by the human head with a gold mask, so-called Fangxiang, who is said to have four gold eyes and mentioned in historic documents? It's still a mystery.



The Goat/Dragon...



I highly recommend the link at the end of this quote for a good photographic exhibit of the discoveries...and parallel them with the information provided by Tsarion in his article and lecture linked above...
Sanxingdui (Chinese: 三星堆; pinyin: Sānxīngduī; literally "Three star mound") is located at Guanghan 40km from Chengdu. It's recognized as the most important ancient remains of the Sichuan region for its vast size, long lasting period and enriched cultural contents. The site was ranked by the State Council of PRC among the top national culture preservation bases in January 1988.

The Sanxingdui Museum is a large-scale modern museum of history situated in the northeastern part of the state-protected Sanxingdui Ruins by the bank of the Yazi River in Guanghan city.

The museum has a total floor space of 4,000 square meters for the exhibition halls, in which the exhibits are lined up in an overall length of 800 meters. With a focus on the theme of the Ancient Town, Ancient State and Ancient Shu Culture, a general profile of the Sanxingdui Ruins is on view and over one thousand pieces of precious relics such as pottery, jade, bone, gold and bronze wares are on display.
(This collection has the option of being viewed as a slideshow...)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drs2biz/tags/sanxingdui/

A secondary link...
http://history.cultural-china.com/en/51History246.html

Ancient bronze casting
This ancient culture had remarkably advanced bronze casting technology which was acquired by adding lead to the usual combination of copper and tin creating a stronger substance that could create substantially larger and heavier objects; for instance, the world's oldest life-size standing human statue (260 cm. high, 180 kilograms), and a bronze tree with birds, flowers, and ornaments (396 cm.), which some have identified as renderings of the fusang tree of Chinese mythology.

The most striking finds were dozens of large bronze masks and heads (at least six with gold foil masks originally attached) represented with angular human features, exaggerated almond-shaped eyes, some with protruding pupils, and large upper ears. Many Sanxingdui bronze faces had traces of paint smears: black on the disproportionately large eyes and eyebrows, and vermillion on the lips, nostrils, and ear holes. Xu (2001:66) interprets this vermillion "not be coloring but something ritually offered for the head to taste, smell, and hear (or something that gave it the power to breathe, hear, and speak)." Based upon the design of these heads, archeologists believe they were mounted on wooden supports or totems, perhaps dressed in clothing. Liu (2000:37) concludes "masked ritual played a vital role in community life of the ancient Sanxingdui inhabitants", and characterizes these bronze ritual masks as something that may have worn by a shi 尸 (lit. "corpse") "personator, impersonator; ceremonial representative of a dead relative" (compare Paper 1995:82).

The shi was generally a close, young relative who wore a costume (possibly including a mask) reproducing the features of the dead person. The shi was an impersonator, that is, a person serving as a reminder of the ancestor to whom sacrifice was being offered. During such a ceremony, the impersonator was much more than an actor in a drama. Although the exact meaning may have been different, the group of Sanxingdui masked figures in bronze all have the character of an impersonator. It is likely the masks were used to impersonate and identify with certain supernatural beings in order to effect some communal good. (2000:37)

Another scholar (Carr 2007:401) compares these "bulging-eyed, big-eared bronze heads and masks" with "eye-idols" (effigies with large eyes and open mouths designed to induce hallucinations) in Julian Jaynes's bicameral hypothesis; and (2007:403) proposes, "It is possible that southern Chinese personators wore these hypnotic bronze masks, recursively representing the spirit of a dead ancestor with a mask that represents a face disguised by a mask."

Other bronze artifacts include birds with eagle-like bills, tigers, a large snake, zoomorphic masks, bells, and what appears to be a bronze spoked wheel but is more likely to be decoration from an ancient shield. Apart from bronze, Sanxingdui finds included jade artifacts consistent with earlier Chinese neolithic cultures, such as cong and zhang.

Cosmology
As far back as Neolithic times, the Chinese identified the four quadrants of the sky with animals: Azure Dragon of the East, Vermillion Bird of the South, White Tiger of the West, and Black Tortoise of the North. Each of these Four Symbols (Chinese constellation) was associated with a constellation that was visible in the relevant season: the dragon in the spring, the bird in the summer, etc. Since these four animals — birds, dragons, snakes and tigers — predominate the finds at Sanxingdui, the bronzes could represent the universe. It is unclear whether they formed part of ritual events designed to communicate with the spirits of the universe (or ancestral spirits). As no written records remain it is difficult to determine the intended uses of objects found. Some believe that the continued prevalence of depictions of these animals, especially in the later Han period, was an attempt by humans to "fit into" their understanding of their world. (The jades that were found at Sanxingdui also seem to correlate with the six known types of ritual jades of ancient China, again each associated with a compass point (N, S, E, W) plus the heavens and earth.)
Sanxingdui culture existed contemporaneously with the Early and Late Shang (1600-1027 BCE). The site at Chenggu shows influence from both Shang and Sanxingdui.

All the Sanxingdui discoveries aroused scholarly interest, but the bronzes were what excited the world. Task Rosen of the British Museum considered them to be more outstanding than the Terracotta Army in Xi'an. The first exhibits of Sanxingdui bronzes were held in Beijing (1987, 1990) and the Olympic Museum in Lausanne (1993). Sanxingdui exhibits traveled worldwide, and tickets were sold out everywhere; from the Hybary Arts Museum in Munich (1995), the Swiss National Museum in Zurich (1996), the British Museum in London (1996), the National Museum of Denmark in Copenhagen (1997), the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum in New York (1998), several museums in Japan (1998), the National Palace Museum in Taipei (1999), to the Asian Civilisations Museum in Singapore (2007). In 1997, the Sanxingdui Museum opened near the original site.

Possible Influence
The Sanxingdui Culture was a mysterious civilization in southern China, which was in the kingdom of Shu during the period of the Shang Dynasty. Although they developed a different method of bronze-making from the Shang, their culture was never recorded by Chinese historians. Sanxingdui culture is thought to be divided into several phases. The first one may have been independent, while the later phases merged with Ba, Chu, and other cultures.

Besides Sanxingdui, other archeological discoveries in Sichuan, including the Baodun and Jinsha cultures, all indicate that civilizations in southern China go back at least 5,000 years. Such evidence of independent cultures in different regions of China defies the traditional theory that the Yellow River was the sole "cradle of Chinese civilization."
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Re: Tree of Life

Post  seraphim on Sat 12 Dec 2009, 01:15

If it wasn't for all this research, I would still be blind about history. I am grateful and will read and keep it in mind.

I'm telling you right now that different groups of people may have looked slightly different. You see it in the bronze figures, some with long ears, some with large ears in other civilizations. Some may even had tails or wings. What I'm thinking is that those people were anihilated on purpose, I can come up for several reasons why. Someone wanted us only to believe that we all looked alike are all the same. They did the same with bigfoot, who is very much alive now, not extinct, but has been created into a myth for some obvious motive as well.
Giants and the dog faced ones.
http://www.lawrence.edu/news/pubs/lt/fall04/giants.shtml
Like today, if bigfoot was allowed to be found out, then people would understand that the theories of evolution, and the missing link as well as all their theories as to how mankind became human are all false.

These figures overlap with other cultures that lived at different times and the archeaology of China looks very similar to ancient Mesoamerica, so they must have travelled the world or came here at certain auspicious times. This goes for those winged beings as well as the Jesus, Buddha, Kulculcan beings, so I agree it may have all been related.

I absolutely acknowledge the Tree of Life as a portal and how trees are very wise. Something that has to do with orientation in space and being vertical creatures.

It is very dangerous to have people believe that they will be rescued by a savior. That can only be the work of Evil. So, I agree turning Jesus into an all powerful figure was very clever of them. Now they have millions of people who will obey instanstly on command.
It's amazing that a lot happening right now has already been prophesized and made true in their Books and made true by the establishment today. It's like they control time. They are masters at manifesting reality for everyone.
There capital Jerusalem, Israel, their boss El by any chance?
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Re: Tree of Life

Post  KapitanScarlet on Sun 13 Dec 2009, 23:39

A considerable article on the appendice , am cjecking out the gnosic media talk , the nokia 5800 is a great tool for mobile podcast listens , in the vehicle or anywhere Idea

In all of china, there will be very adept researchers who have uncovered jewels yet to be known to the west , surely

Thats a very revealing thoughtful note u sent q

Those statues are very interesting , they have that geometric angular design sort of pyramidical , the smaller one with goggles loks like a technician ir is that same one , diff angle of photo



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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sun 13 Dec 2009, 23:43

The tree is interesting symbol, it roots in the earth and spreads high into the ether, but it requires both the earth and the ether to sustain its healthy existence and growth
and it grows both ways , into the dark earth and into the light ether , 2 separate worlds that conect throught the trees existence
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Re: Tree of Life

Post  tgII on Mon 14 Dec 2009, 04:24

Missed this thread, grrrrr...
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Mon 14 Dec 2009, 15:11



The roots are immersed and nourished in the underworld
The trunk connects the roots of the underworld to the heavens above, an active interface because the heavens above also directly influence the roots
NO one person can say for sure how these fruits may blossom, because there is a relationship to something just beyond human manipulation
The fruits that may come are a result of the root knowledge transferring through the trunk , and the branch knowledge transferring back through the roots , a synergestic relationship of light and dark thus resulting in the production of vitality / fruits but always "in their own unique timing" which has an absolute importance yet to be recognised in fine print because this is directly related to mans psychological discipline of desire

Man has shown recently that with technical genius , he can surpass nature to produce seemingly superb fruits from trees using artificial means
A magnificent act of technology but potentially also a terrible misunderstanding , because this process educates purely on the selfish material reward and by its intent, must remove the synergestic relationship with the mystical which directly acts on mans consciousness and body.
This synergestic relationship with the mystic is what gives the man health and a new fresh unobstructed breath of insight
Without it, mans consciousness growth will stagnate and then must convince itself it is the creator, and with that "target" in mind, his idea of creation must eventually implode into one discipline which will eventually realise, that it, in itself, is but one fruit that has been removed from its artificially accelerated branch , which was grown on its artificially accelerated tree, but in that acceleration, his "fall to manic craving" the true secret of the life was lost to him
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Post  tgII on Mon 14 Dec 2009, 22:45

As he sat there at his desk in art class in his junior year of high
school wondering what to begin drawing as a spontaneous
drawing after being given directions from his art teacher, tgII
drew almost exactly that very same tree, Kapis, including the
roots.

This topic came up on the MTSAR Board, the idea that when
a person 'imagines' a tree in their mind; and it turns out most
people only see the top of the tree, never the roots, which
are more important than the branches and leaves.
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Wed 16 Dec 2009, 00:54

That was the magic left right balance in thee TGII, they could not deviate that in you No No siree Smile
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Re: Tree of Life

Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 29 Jun 2010, 16:01

Okay, someone recently posted regarding Wayne Herschel.

I had read his webpages over a year ago, but it seems he has updated a lot of his information.
After looking at it all again I can only say..."Mindblowing".

I would highly recommend scouring all three sites.

I think this is a good one to sink your teeth into Timothy concerning all the ancient earth sites having similar geometry to one another, matching star constellations and matching the same geometry as the Cydonia complex on Mars.
This is just too....unreal.

The last one, on "oneism", has some very interesting correlations concerning the tree of life, but I am not hip to all that is professed in his philosophies.

His main site...
http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/
http://www.keyofsolomon.net/
http://www.oneism.org/


The Tree of Life...


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Re: Tree of Life

Post  seraphim on Fri 02 Jul 2010, 22:11

Mindblowing huh......

The ancient Egytpians revered a Sun..but it was not our sun! Astronomers can confirm that the Solar Temple obelisk is the only monument in the entire pyramid field to emulate a Sun like star (HD 283271 G spectrum) and it is relatively nearby. the correlation only occured at its most precise postition 17 250 years ago. All the other pyramids match bright stars that are nothing like our Sun. Herschel suggests the Sun Temple was named after a Sun like Star and has nothing to do with our Sun at all!
A map the visitors made!
Maybe that other Sun is near their home!
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