The Dream World
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The Dream World
seraphim on Tue 8 Dec 2009 - 20:19
It's either now or never folks. Take your life and soul into your own hands.
Getting started on a forgotten journey.
Since one can’t do much of anything in this world, why not create one’s own dreams and manifest what one wishes there. If not in this world then in another world, the world of dreams. Learn so much more, do as one wills and be in full control without repercussions and go wherever you want in the universe.
And then once attaining a crystal clear state and being fully conscious in dreaming, go into higher states of awareness, one can meet other entities or the higher self, meet the deceased and people living right now in this world. Live as one does when awake and fully conscious, yet do as one wills.
So where does one start: getting a hold on the basics: lucid dreaming.
First step: start a dream journal. Right down dreams as soon as waking up, as you have a months or so worth of dreams try and find things that occur often, they can be thoughts or places as well. These are called dream signs. There are personal dream signs one just has and more universal dream signs that everyone may have.
Then list these personal dream signs down and every night read them and keep saying these only happen in my dreams so that when they do happen in the dream you can realize that you are dreaming. And then do a reality check.
This is important to do in waking life many times a day, because this will then transfer into one's dreams. For example when awake look at your hands and see if they look different, then later when dreaming, this repetitious behavior will happen or transfer into the dream also and you will look at your hands to see if they look normal, if not which is usually the case, then you know you are dreaming.
The dream journal, dream signs and reality checks will get one started to becoming lucid in a dream.
What you believe in waking life will manifest in dreams.
After becoming a lucid dreamer you will be on your way on a magnificent journey. The world would be a different place if folks paid attention to this profound state and if everyone made it a crucial part of their life.
Getting started on a forgotten journey.
Since one can’t do much of anything in this world, why not create one’s own dreams and manifest what one wishes there. If not in this world then in another world, the world of dreams. Learn so much more, do as one wills and be in full control without repercussions and go wherever you want in the universe.
And then once attaining a crystal clear state and being fully conscious in dreaming, go into higher states of awareness, one can meet other entities or the higher self, meet the deceased and people living right now in this world. Live as one does when awake and fully conscious, yet do as one wills.
So where does one start: getting a hold on the basics: lucid dreaming.
First step: start a dream journal. Right down dreams as soon as waking up, as you have a months or so worth of dreams try and find things that occur often, they can be thoughts or places as well. These are called dream signs. There are personal dream signs one just has and more universal dream signs that everyone may have.
Then list these personal dream signs down and every night read them and keep saying these only happen in my dreams so that when they do happen in the dream you can realize that you are dreaming. And then do a reality check.
This is important to do in waking life many times a day, because this will then transfer into one's dreams. For example when awake look at your hands and see if they look different, then later when dreaming, this repetitious behavior will happen or transfer into the dream also and you will look at your hands to see if they look normal, if not which is usually the case, then you know you are dreaming.
The dream journal, dream signs and reality checks will get one started to becoming lucid in a dream.
What you believe in waking life will manifest in dreams.
After becoming a lucid dreamer you will be on your way on a magnificent journey. The world would be a different place if folks paid attention to this profound state and if everyone made it a crucial part of their life.
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Re: The Dream World
Kapis on Wed 9 Dec 2009 - 1:52
Great to see Seraphim, practical steps for engaging the mysteries of the psychic self and trying to make sense and grow from it
ITs definetly worth taking serious the steps u mention here
ITs definetly worth taking serious the steps u mention here
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Re: The Dream World
quicksilvercrescendo on Wed 9 Dec 2009 - 22:11
Evaluating dreams is profound.
The time spent asleep and dreaming is enormous in one's lifetime.
And all of it is coming from within you, rather than information and impressions always coming in from an external source.
So, in pursuit of knowing and experiencing anything to do with...self, it would seem this avenue of exploration would be supreme over looking externally.
I would also suggest this be paired with astral travel concepts...it can get interesting.
The time spent asleep and dreaming is enormous in one's lifetime.
And all of it is coming from within you, rather than information and impressions always coming in from an external source.
So, in pursuit of knowing and experiencing anything to do with...self, it would seem this avenue of exploration would be supreme over looking externally.
I would also suggest this be paired with astral travel concepts...it can get interesting.
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Re: The Dream World
seraphim on Wed 9 Dec 2009 - 22:23
The youth are taught nothing! The Native elders know how crucial this is. Have got to start now and fast.
Absolutely Kapis and quicksilvercrescendo and I'm thankful you all understand.
Absolutely Kapis and quicksilvercrescendo and I'm thankful you all understand.
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Re: The Dream World
Kapis on Thu 10 Dec 2009 - 22:26
The observation and study or at least awareness of ones dreams, ties in with the cultivation of ones own private Temple in the imagerena, a sacred sanctuary which is a direct ethical reflection of your current interactive persona in the physical realm
Dreams are in general trivialised and ridiculed into obscurity because certain energys want all concentration onto the physical world which they try to manipulate and they dont want people contemplating a relationship between their own psychic world and the physical reality because that opens up the possibility of Dimensional interaction , an occult study off course , but these days, the doors are definetly opening up as J morr once poetically illustrated
Personally, i see keeping an eye on ones dreams and ones physical consciousness as a real smart move.
Dreams are in general trivialised and ridiculed into obscurity because certain energys want all concentration onto the physical world which they try to manipulate and they dont want people contemplating a relationship between their own psychic world and the physical reality because that opens up the possibility of Dimensional interaction , an occult study off course , but these days, the doors are definetly opening up as J morr once poetically illustrated
Personally, i see keeping an eye on ones dreams and ones physical consciousness as a real smart move.
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Re: The Dream World
Flames on Fri 11 Dec 2009 - 23:40
This is a very interesting thread. I don't understand a lot about dreams, so thanks for sharing your information here.
Had a dream last night about Frankenstein.
It was all pretty abstract, but some images that I recall were of the classical image of Frankenstein and I remember seeing text in the dream that read "Mary Shelley", I can't remember if I dreamt of an image of her book cover, or what, but I remember reading her name in my dream. I've always been aware that she was the author. I still haven't got around to reading her book, I'm just familiar with the movie.I am happy that through out my whole life, I've been able to recall so many images from me dreams and nightmares, a lot of people don't have that ability. I've never really studied the subject though. So I appreciate the information being shared here.
P.S. Anyone here seem to have a lot more nightmares than dreams? I separate the two totally. Ever since I was a little kid, I've always had way more nightmares than dreams, still do. Sometimes the nightmares have me shaken well into the day. I would not consider sleep a pleasant experience at all. I know when I shut those eyes, it's war in oblivion.
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Re: The Dream World
Sputnik on Sat 12 Dec 2009 - 6:22
In reality there is no difference between ones waking-time and ones dream-time. It is not enough to remember a dream. Only when one can actually act in ones dream in the same manner as one acts during his waking time - is one to be called a dreamer. Only then is he in control over himself. That's because the socalled dreamworld (astralplane) is the one that produces this world. To wake up is something to be willed, but then, people often say they want something and do another...or they dislike the implications that come with it and that's a waste of time...at least from my point of view..and I don't waste my time on timewasters.
Flames, you have nighmares because you reject the reality that surrounds you. I don't blame you for it but maybe you want to reconsider and act...give that Frankestein monster the kick in the crotch therapy - next time it tries to get to you.
And to the rest of you, don't even bother to comment..
Flames, you have nighmares because you reject the reality that surrounds you. I don't blame you for it but maybe you want to reconsider and act...give that Frankestein monster the kick in the crotch therapy - next time it tries to get to you.
And to the rest of you, don't even bother to comment..
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Re: The Dream World
seraphim on Sat 12 Dec 2009 - 7:23
the light and will attract many a thing, interesting......
This reality is just another dream state, I agree.
Flames, I was going to comment on your nightmares as well but you can find out that reason and I really believe you can find the answer in dreaming. What a great motivation to find that out and to explore your dreams further! I so much encourage you to do that. Start with the basics and go from there, unless you have already tried, but never give up, you already are a step above.
Nightmares for me are mostly physiological, I never ever fail to have a nightmare if I fall asleep on my back. Otherwise I don't really have them. As for your nightmares, tell yourself what you want to dream about, keep telling yourself that before you go to bed, just as an experiment and see what happens.
Dreams are so much more.
To see and communicate with energy directly without any particular cognitive system. Or what the Tibetans call the Twilight Language. A sacred marriage of profound wisdom to skillful means, like an elixir poured into a vessel, a body.
Some people can understand or interpret it for the purpose of recovering or revealing if the time is right, ancient and evolutionary treasures and teachings that lead others toward enlightenment, healing, empowerment and liberation.
This Language manifests in waking visions, seeing beyond or in awakened dreaming, which wisdom is communicated via its direct language.
Unlike the Tibetans, some Natives call it Dream Power and base many things upon that. Those who understand the twilight language or the language of Dream Power can interpret any dream accurately and make their Dreams manifest in the waking world of the collective, to see energy directly and enter into the dreams of others.
People have the ability to do this.
This reality is just another dream state, I agree.
Flames, I was going to comment on your nightmares as well but you can find out that reason and I really believe you can find the answer in dreaming. What a great motivation to find that out and to explore your dreams further! I so much encourage you to do that. Start with the basics and go from there, unless you have already tried, but never give up, you already are a step above.
Nightmares for me are mostly physiological, I never ever fail to have a nightmare if I fall asleep on my back. Otherwise I don't really have them. As for your nightmares, tell yourself what you want to dream about, keep telling yourself that before you go to bed, just as an experiment and see what happens.
Dreams are so much more.
To see and communicate with energy directly without any particular cognitive system. Or what the Tibetans call the Twilight Language. A sacred marriage of profound wisdom to skillful means, like an elixir poured into a vessel, a body.
Some people can understand or interpret it for the purpose of recovering or revealing if the time is right, ancient and evolutionary treasures and teachings that lead others toward enlightenment, healing, empowerment and liberation.
This Language manifests in waking visions, seeing beyond or in awakened dreaming, which wisdom is communicated via its direct language.
Unlike the Tibetans, some Natives call it Dream Power and base many things upon that. Those who understand the twilight language or the language of Dream Power can interpret any dream accurately and make their Dreams manifest in the waking world of the collective, to see energy directly and enter into the dreams of others.
People have the ability to do this.
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Re: The Dream World
Kapis on Sat 12 Dec 2009 - 12:27
In reality there is no difference between ones waking-time and ones dream-time.
I beg to differ, there is a distinct difference in my conscious clear waketime, like right now, and if i was say , conscious in a dream.
i would say The dream consciousness is accessed through a faculty that "usually" opens through the process known as sleep , when the waketime conscious conditioned propulsion is stilled ,
The dream consciousness can also be free of all physical and psychological memorised or "conditioned" restrictions which can then allow free amplification of the bandwidth of perception and feeling in that dream , but the price of this amplification is the loss of tangible memory and directional sense. (but i am aware that there are doctrines to correct this loss )
I would rephrase your assertment to phrase that the physical wake landscape is a different realm to the dreamlandscape , but the human psyche interfaces between both of them through consciousness and sub-consciousness / higher consciousness , therefore , there is a connection between both realms , each affecting the other , and if the human interface becomes aware of its own interfacing then surely it can surpass its own conditioned limitations
I already gave a personal example of how one could "import" a quality (i termed a signature) from the dream realm into the physical realm on your dreamforum before you went into your "de-fragmentation phase" ( grimace)
It is not enough to remember a dream. Only when one can actually act in ones dream in the same manner as one acts during his waking time - is one to be called a dreamer.
Only then is he in control over himself. That's because the socalled dreamworld (astralplane) is the one that produces this world. To wake up is something to be willed, but then, people often say they want something and do another...or they dislike the implications that come with it and that's a waste of time...at least from my point of view..and I don't waste my time on timewasters.
"Dream on "
Flames, you have nighmares because you reject the reality that surrounds you. I don't blame you for it but maybe you want to reconsider and act...give that Frankestein monster the kick in the crotch therapy - next time it tries to get to you.
There is nothing to fear but fear in itself in the dreamrealms , and fear has a hefty appetite
And to the rest of you, don't even bother to comment..
REmember , your not pulling .. or should i say cutting the strings here , and have you disclosed any of your personal experiences here, like i did for you ? on your dictated realm, no, you have not ..... thx for the memorys and nougats from cough cough experience
- Thats an appealing termTwilight language
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Re: The Dream World
Sputnik on Sun 13 Dec 2009 - 4:22
A lot of meaningless blablabla as usual Icedude,
You are...just a notorious babbler..
Nice one.."SOME" people have that ability....and some just talk about it..
You are...just a notorious babbler..
Those who understand the twilight language or the language of Dream Power can interpret any dream accurately and make their Dreams manifest in the waking world of the collective, to see energy directly and enter into the dreams of others. People have the ability to do this.
Nice one.."SOME" people have that ability....and some just talk about it..
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Re: The Dream World
seraphim on Sun 13 Dec 2009 - 6:33
Angelic being of light, get it right the first time, seraphim is not anyone else. You don't have to take out your anger on anyone, anymore.
Folks have a right to talk about dreaming. So do you have the Twilight Language ability or not, or what do you have?
I was also thinking that the Sleeping Prophet did this or was doing channeling Kapis. I so much encourage you as well in your dreams.
I was wondering how one is oriented in space and how that affects dreams, well at least in my case when face up. I read later there are certain ways to place the body before going to sleep and that can do something as well.
Anyway it's funny thinking how some folks get up and walk around or sleep talk. I used to sleep walk, now I just sit up and look around like I don't know where I'm at once in a blue moon.
Folks have a right to talk about dreaming. So do you have the Twilight Language ability or not, or what do you have?
I was also thinking that the Sleeping Prophet did this or was doing channeling Kapis. I so much encourage you as well in your dreams.
I was wondering how one is oriented in space and how that affects dreams, well at least in my case when face up. I read later there are certain ways to place the body before going to sleep and that can do something as well.
Anyway it's funny thinking how some folks get up and walk around or sleep talk. I used to sleep walk, now I just sit up and look around like I don't know where I'm at once in a blue moon.
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Re: The Dream World
tgII on Sun 13 Dec 2009 - 7:16
Had a rather intense seemingly very long dream last night, a past love, she came
back in full living color, she was driving and I was in the back seat; that is to
say, she was in control and I wasn't, have been in fucking misery ever since,
and not since last night either, since fifteen years ago.
Good thing for dreams and nightmares, otherwise my subconscious mind would
drive me into a maniacal fit of rage and I would end up on nurse Ratchet's fourth
floor permanently bound up in a straight jacket and sedated begging Kapis to
bring the booze and girls up to the fourth floor after visiting hours.
Kapis and Flames, can you believe this shit, bought three beers and
put them in the freezer and forgot about them, damn it.
back in full living color, she was driving and I was in the back seat; that is to
say, she was in control and I wasn't, have been in fucking misery ever since,
and not since last night either, since fifteen years ago.
Good thing for dreams and nightmares, otherwise my subconscious mind would
drive me into a maniacal fit of rage and I would end up on nurse Ratchet's fourth
floor permanently bound up in a straight jacket and sedated begging Kapis to
bring the booze and girls up to the fourth floor after visiting hours.
"Look, Timothy, either get your shit
straight or I will use electro-shock
therapy on your ass."
Kapis and Flames, can you believe this shit, bought three beers and
put them in the freezer and forgot about them, damn it.
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Re: The Dream World
Sputnik on Sun 13 Dec 2009 - 13:56
Yeah Icedude II, I thought so...
The beer was delicious, had a little hang over this mornin but a croatian Trava medicine schnaps fixed that quickly.
Not in control since 15 years huh? Well have another beer and stop playing the english patient.
And you, whoever, sitting up and looking around as if you don't know where you're at....well, in sleepwalking...if you do it right, at least you get some stuff done and don't waste time contemplating your own disoriention.
Anger......I am just as ugly as you allow me to be..curtesy of the angelical doctrine. So what have I got, I have the tendency to change the future everytime I look at it..someone since discovered this, I don't know if it was dreamrelated for this one or not, but this one called it Quantum Physics...
Now go back to sleep, see you there....cause for the nannies your antics are more easy to deal with that way..taaadaaa...
The beer was delicious, had a little hang over this mornin but a croatian Trava medicine schnaps fixed that quickly.
Not in control since 15 years huh? Well have another beer and stop playing the english patient.
And you, whoever, sitting up and looking around as if you don't know where you're at....well, in sleepwalking...if you do it right, at least you get some stuff done and don't waste time contemplating your own disoriention.
Anger......I am just as ugly as you allow me to be..curtesy of the angelical doctrine. So what have I got, I have the tendency to change the future everytime I look at it..someone since discovered this, I don't know if it was dreamrelated for this one or not, but this one called it Quantum Physics...
Now go back to sleep, see you there....cause for the nannies your antics are more easy to deal with that way..taaadaaa...
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Re: The Dream World
Flames on Sun 13 Dec 2009 - 19:36
Not in control since 15 years huh? Well have another beer and stop playing the english patient.
I know that wasn't directed toward me, just had to say that woman will never know how deeply they leave their psychic imprint on a man's mind for good or bad. I still have dreams about a woman I "fell in love with" 10 years ago. Though, I rarely think about her when conscious, there seems to be a resonance effect that the lady left upon said scarred psyche.
Makes me think there is some truth to the Succubus/Incubus deal.
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Re: The Dream World
rainyday on Sun 13 Dec 2009 - 21:33
We're made of subatomic particles that can be in two places at once. So while I'm sleeping, I think I'm dreaming.
In my dream, I always end up walking through a door of some black tie party that my other self is attending. I don't know any of the people there, but the other me knows everyone in attendance. When I wake up, I think, damn, why does she get to have all the fun and I'm stuck here.
In my dream, I always end up walking through a door of some black tie party that my other self is attending. I don't know any of the people there, but the other me knows everyone in attendance. When I wake up, I think, damn, why does she get to have all the fun and I'm stuck here.
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