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Post  KapitanScarlet Sun 06 Dec 2009, 12:03





Part 5 is worth getting to regarding Death

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Post  KapitanScarlet Mon 07 Dec 2009, 22:34

In part 3 of the Horizon video it states that the UDV christian church members in many cities in bRazil, ingest aYahuasa every 2 weeks , then sit and have visions / talk for over 4 hours , they beleive its a beneficial brew
There is a doctor interviewed whom has ingested for over 20 years, and he no longer has visionsm just a very clear thinking of what he needs to be doing

Anyone here ever ingested ayahuasta ?
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Post  seraphim Mon 07 Dec 2009, 22:36

Hey your post bumped mine out!

He said DMT and the source the pineal gland may be the seat of the soul. It’s what is called the third eye or crown chakra. DMT is stimulated under severe stress as when dying. It causes one to go in and out of life.
From what I heard, the dreams are compared to this chemical as lucid dreaming also opens doors to the afterlife. So when actually dying one can try and keep their concentration going instead of dissolving it back into the conscious energy matrix
The ancients on the wall picture seem to have got the process down.

The people who took DMT had contact with entities. Here’s one story:
“It was very intelligent. It wasn't at all humanoid. It wasn't a bee but it seemed like one. It was showing me around the hive. It was extremely friendly and I felt a warm sensual energy radiating throughout the hive. I decided it must be a wonderful thing to live in a loving and sensual environment such as that. It said to me that this was where our future lay.

Is that why the bees were always talked about in ancient history, folks knew of these entities. That beehive sounds like a trap, very diabolical, sounds like the entity is luring in the person through the sensual loving energy just so it can harness that person’s energy.
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Post  seraphim Mon 07 Dec 2009, 22:43

I haven't taken plants that induce DMT or peyote, but for sure would like to talk more on the entity 'peyote'. Thanks! And peyote for sure would be my choice if I was going to take a plant. Because I would rather use dreaming instead of DMT to take me to other places.

These plants are so important to learn what's really going on and can actually teach a person so much. But they really have to be ready to do that especially for peyote, because it will kick your butt if you are just thinking of doing it just for a trip and not being serious.
Alot of people ignorantly say these plants will make you crazy, but these plants, particulary peyote, are so very intelligent that they know if you are not serious they will, on purpose, keep you in your insane state.
Until one grows up peyote will not teach you.

That's great the doctor has learned!
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Post  KapitanScarlet Mon 07 Dec 2009, 22:55

There is a lot of very revealing and thought-stimulating info in both of these video series.

Ayahuasca has definetly caught my attention, and peyote i must look into more, please post any more revealing knowledge in it, do u know anyone who has tried it ?
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Post  seraphim Wed 09 Dec 2009, 23:35

My friend was to do the real deal out in the desert for 4 days alone with peyote, but haven't talked to them in awhile. I am sure they would have liked to share their experience.
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Post  KapitanScarlet Thu 10 Dec 2009, 23:12

Ask them next time u in contact if it seems like a good moment Smile

I was in conversation with a persona today, who informed me he used to take magic mushrooms when he was younger , he took them about every fortnight for years he said, he froze them so he could use them all year .

He said he took them for the trip, looking for something extra , he spoke of trees talking to him, the ground opening up beneath him, some really scary things and some more enlightening occurences, he also said that after stopping talking them, he felt displaced from reality and he got flashbacks for over a year afterwards .
He spoke of spirits talking to him as well

He absolutely said that the state of mind they were taken in was the most crucial aspect of the experience , he was too young and naive to know that at the time

Sometimes it became difficult to separete reality from imagination, the lines were drawn so close

I should add that he since held down a respectable occupation for many years after and he is a very insightfull and technically able persona with a fine eye for separating the quality from the fake

If i see him again , i will try and enquire about it more in details
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Post  tgII Thu 10 Dec 2009, 23:31

Kapis, some years ago after doing some reading on mushrooms I
actually thought of disappearing into the wilds for awhile and under
controlled conditions downing some Siberian Amanita muscaria.


As the world continues on its path of self-annihilation the thought of
expanding my horizons keeps ringing in my ears.
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Post  KapitanScarlet Thu 10 Dec 2009, 23:44

Might be a good idea to add them to the "survival pack" TG , should the need ever arise Very Happy

Have you ever been in this TG, this would blow my mind, starts off on wheels, then levotates on magnetic energy , friction free motion on magnetic fields , only aerodynamics iffers resistance, mind boggling performance Cool
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Post  tgII Fri 11 Dec 2009, 01:33

Flames, ya, really, holy shit, just imagine going into the spiritual realm
at 500kph on mascaria!!! You'd never survive it, they would have to
refer to you as the shaman who never made it back from the other side.
Shocked

Kapis, that's China, a German firm engineered and built that maglev,
the Japs aren't up to speed yet on that technology.


In fact, a good friend of mine and his wife just returned from a trip to
Shanghai, he took some digital pics of the digital meter in the car he
rode in, all he could say was, "Damn that was fast." And looking at the
pictures he took the speed was registered at only 273kph!
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Post  seraphim Fri 11 Dec 2009, 08:43

Magick mushrooms for recreational purposes, wonderful!
I can just picture all the people feeling woozy and high after the train stopped! LOL

Now for something really out of this world! What if this reality is just one of many that a person can tap into. This reality really is just one big dream, except one can't do much or use their imagination Neutral

But really the other mushrooms like Aminita Muscaria or the master mescaline should be held in high respect. I had a friend who overdid it with a drug, could have been one of the mushrooms and an older native intervened on the other side and saved his life. Must have been one of their spirit guides or even better just a Native doing what they do naturally on the other side and happened to find my friend not doing so good.
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Post  KapitanScarlet Sun 20 Dec 2009, 03:29

Interesting how "concept of the time dimension" is affected in this guys trip .



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Post  seraphim Mon 21 Dec 2009, 07:17

If sleep is due to changing the brains waves, then that would be parallel to or an analogy for chemicals (natural) opening up the consciousness, which is much easier to do, but has been a long lost practice and so messed up nowadays.

Now here's something mindblowing.....
Bingo! That’s it folks one is prevented from really perceiving the truth and 99% of what’s out there! Why, because being a human on earth equals being a slave, physical property. The reality has been made here on earth so that it is only about survival, living like an animal.
If you realize the profound giveway in this paragraph, it doesn’t say it, but what I clearly got was that the brain is meant to keep us from having experiences that just may free one, that for sure will teach one all they need to know. It is a not a starry eyed state for those who were serious about these special plants, from the Natives, Hindus, sorcerers and so many other cultures that used them to break free. Those who don’t know of these plants importance will be left tripped up, crossed eyed or end up dead if they think it’s just for fun.

It’s not about becoming spiritual, it’s about gaining freedom. Who are those who have come closest to true freedom?
In his hypothesis known as emanationism, the philosopher, Henri Bergson, suggested that the brain may act as a kind of “reducing valve” for cosmic consciousness. Researchers into the higher altered states of consciousness have found this to be a useful working hypothesis on the basis that psychedelics, meditation, fasting etc., perhaps reduce the brain’s efficiacy at keeping material out, thereby permitting reality to be perceived at a more fundamental level. Presumably the reason we do not perceive like this all the time is that such a starry-eyed state would not be conducive to the physical survival of the species. Neither would it give much opportunity for spiritual growth by taking up the challenge to be “in this world, but not of it”.
http://www.alastairmcintosh.com/articles/1985_psychedelic.htm
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Post  seraphim Mon 21 Dec 2009, 07:34

The name psychedelic is really a put down for the name of these powerful plants. Sadly that's all folks have been taught about them and what their use is for, to go on a trip. Which is obviously to keep one a dummy about their real uses. Every child should be taught about herbs and later on about the long lost traditions that used these plants to bridge the spirit and physical gap.
Why has the church prevented this from happening.
Also some neat info on grains.
Magical morning gloryThe origins of witchcraft belong to an ancient heritage reaching far back into prehistory and worship of the Goddess. Before written language, domestication and agriculture, when wild Dionysus still reigned, witches were the traditional midwives, healers, herbalists and oracles of village and tribe.
Following Christianity's rise to power came the systematic annihilation of all pagan (non-Christian) religions. The church associated certain plants and animals with pagan worship, and claimed they were Satanic in nature.

Witch gargoyle, NY City HallThis same attitude is perpetuated today in America's longest war, the War on Drugs. The new Pharmacratic Inquisition is a flashback to past injustices. Falsely providing society with convenient scapegoats, while shielding us from the larger, more complex issues at the root.

Entheobotanical (Entheo is Greek for God generated from within) research into Europe's shamanic past now reconnects us with once this forbidden knowledge.

Ergot fungus, the fury of St Anthony.Ergot

The Eleusian Mysteries had been celebrated uninterrupted for two thousand years before their destruction by Christian forces in 395 AD. Held annually, the ceremony was open to all citizens. The Initiate was led into the Telesterion (Inner sanctum) where they ingested a hallucinogenic potion called the Kykeon. They left wonderstruck and forever changed.

The ergot fungus (Claviceps purpurea) was responsible for the miracle at Eleusis, and also the plague called Saint Anthony's Fire, a disease that brought victims on a desperate pilgrimage to the shrine of Saint Anthony for healing. During the Dark Ages, whenever grains became ergotized, (parasitized by the ergot fungus), this terrible fury would be unleashed.

AdvertisementDictated by seasonal conditions and growing cycles, people unknowingly consumed contaminated harvests. Claviceps purpurea contains alkaloids of the lysergic acid group. Those eating infected grain soon developed gangerous limbs which withered and fell away, along with delusions and hallucinations, symptoms attributed directly to the Devil's influence.


The golden skeleton of Atkopos.The Shaman/Witch realized that ergot could also be used for healing, enabling difficult births to be hastened without post-parturition hemorrhage. The key was in the dosages and methods of administration.

Eventually ergot crossed paths with the Swiss chemist Albert Hofmann, who in 1943 synthesized LSD-25, the most powerful hallucinogen then known, launching the psychedelic sixties
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/78.html
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Post  KapitanScarlet Mon 21 Dec 2009, 12:41

In his hypothesis known as emanationism, the philosopher, Henri Bergson, suggested that the brain may act as a kind of “reducing valve” for cosmic consciousness. Researchers into the higher altered states of consciousness have found this to be a useful working hypothesis on the basis that psychedelics, meditation, fasting etc., perhaps reduce the brain’s efficiacy at keeping material out, thereby permitting reality to be perceived at a more fundamental level. Presumably the reason we do not perceive like this all the time is that such a starry-eyed state would not be conducive to the physical survival of the species. Neither would it give much opportunity for spiritual growth by taking up the challenge to be “in this world, but not of it”.

Its an interesting observation, maybe the "Reducing valve" is necessary for early conditioning ,because not all conditioning is bad , like learning beneficial techniques
BUt it would be then be a very serious or very foolish step to try and expand the consciousness, dependent on the persons intent and preparation .

In that politician video, it seems that he may have been experiencing considerable phenomena in the normal conscious tiny period of a second or so

Reducing valve or "safety lock valve" or "slave control valve "

BUt its absolutely possible that these herbal consciousness adjusters are for dimensional surveys or explorarations , the doors of perception , but that they can only be taken when the intent and preparation of an individual is suitable .

BUt the qualifications of "suitable" is where the problems arise, because an idiot taking them may well amplify their idiot

MAybe also i buy into this "Guide" theory, because the presence of certain individual cannot ever be underestimated on the psycho-active level.

I beleive there will be people today with safe knowledge of psycho-active movements and who may be able to judge if another persona is suitable or not so

Im not suggesting that an inspired individual could not take these things and come out positive, but because of the inherent dangers , the presence of an experienced guide would seem wise, if the full trust was there.

The "invention" and first reported positive then absolutely mass media negative experiences of LSD takers , has done a wonderfull job in keeping these areas
niche-alised for decades through fear and maybe for good reason where some are concerned .
BUt remember bill hicks revelation, you only ever hear negative mind-alteration stories in the media
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Post  KapitanScarlet Mon 21 Dec 2009, 15:25

And on consciousness intelligence , rather tham measure it with the limited IQ, there should be some new barometer, ill have a bash .....

It should be gauged in the following disciplines

Ability to sequence and pattern
Ability to technique
Ability to metaphysical conceive
Ability to visualise / intuit
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Post  KapitanScarlet Tue 22 Dec 2009, 14:00

On Peyote - The writer of "One flew over the cuckoos nest " claims to have been under its influence when first penning the story

In the americas, the incomers systematically went around and banned its use among natives, using agents to infiltrate native settlements to hunt it out and make it iilegal

They really wanted its influence banned

The alkaloid Mescaline seems to be "immune" from age degradation for maybe thousands of years thus retaining its psycho-active , sort of hermetically sealed energy

It is a mystery to science how the peyote cactus can produce this complex alkaloid mescaline ... and what is its purpose from the cactus point of view ?

This is a good example of where science requires a bridge into the shamanic mystery to continue trying to make sense .

The first scientist, the German chemist Arthur Heffter managed to isolate and label the active ingredient mescaline a century ago , but he never reported any form of mind perception alterations.

Visionary phenomenology
Later , the American psychologist Heinrich Kluver produced a book entitled mEscal detailing the incredible psychological effects he had from ingesting mescaline and he thought it could be used as a means to explore the therapeutic, neurological and psychological unconscious of mankind


" MYERHOFF'S VISIONS
Mostly, anthropologists steer well clear of their subject matter if that subject matter consists of some reputedly sacred sacrament. Myerhoff, however, sampled peyote under shaman Ramon's instructions. Her experiences are noteworthy and no doubt aided her sympathetic treatment of Huichol culture (unlike La Barre who, although admitting to having tried peyote on a few occasions, presumably had either neutral or negative experiences since he declined to write about them).

When the mescaline began to have its characteristic visionary effect, Myerhoff witnessed a sequence of elaborate and fully-formed visions which appeared somewhat like beads on a string, in that they seemed to exist simultaneously and each of which she could 'visit' at will (Ramon was later to inform her that these visions were special and important). Firstly she found herself:

"...impaled on an enormous tree with its roots buried far below the Earth and its branches rising beyond sight, toward the sky. This was the Tree of Life, the axis mundi or world pole which penetrates the layers of the cosmos, connecting Earth with underworld and heaven, on which shamans ascend in their magical flights. The image was exactly the same as a Mayan glyph which I was to come across for the first time years after this vision occurred."

Myerhoff also remarks, somewhat shamanically, on the didactic nature of these visions, that they were teaching her important knowledge. At the close of her visionary ecstasy, Myerhoff became absorbed in looking at the centre of a yarn painting (this was still part of an inner vision) which depicted mythical creatures. As she felt the effects of the mescaline reaching their zenith, she expected some "final lesson" to become suddenly apparent. Just as the yarn picture vanished, an image flickered at the the periphery of her inner eye and Myerhoff felt that she had missed something important since she had been looking at the centre of the picture instead of the boundary. Myerhoff confesses that this last vision taught her in the years to come to prepare to seek answers not where they might obviously be expected to be found, but to be open at all times to surveying the whole picture...
REDISCOVERING THE HEARTFELT SACRED
Myerhoff has this to say about psychedelic shamanic vision questing:
"...in some philosophical systems such experiences are considered the most elevated and most intensely spiritual available to man. As such it is the very opposite of those aspects of religion which are ritualised, mechanical and impersonal."
This, it seems, is the crux of the matter, for we have two radically different ways of comprehending, interpreting and conceiving of reality. The heartfelt shamanic view, as evinced by the Huichol and other peyote using natives, holds that reality is essentially spiritual, that a great body of intelligence exists whose presence is all around us and bound up with the Earth. The shamanic view also holds that entheogenic plants like the peyote can put one in direct communion with this most sacred aspect of Nature and that it is from such a transcendental communion that sublime knowledge can be obtained and be given over for the good of the community..................... "

http://island.org/prescience/PEYOTE.html
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Post  seraphim Sun 27 Dec 2009, 06:39

Excellent points on the true nature of a psychedalic. One can either go by way of dreaming to evolve which is much safer or by way of these plants which are much trickier and can be harmful, so a guide is recommended once again.

Some information on Big Pharma man John C. Lilly

The highly esteemed scientist from the 60’s named John C. Lilly. John Lilly was popular in the 70’s for doing telepathic experiments with dolphins using ketamine. He also invented technology called "the Lilly wave", the technique was an electric current waveform with which animals could be stimulated through implanted electrodes for several hours per day for several months without causing irreversible changes in threshold by the passage of current through brain tissue.

John was also a ketmaine addict, and into metaphysics. He used to report speaking to "alien intelligence" while under the influence of ketamine induced NDE states (Near Death Experiences). He named these entities the E.C.C.O. (The Earth Coincidence Control Office). John used to go into these states and ask these "things" to reveal God to him. The whole story surrounding John, his life and his achievements are pretty bizarre.
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Operant conditioning chamber or skinners box
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In 20 minutes, a pigeon can be trained to spin left to receive food , and then will spin constantly as little bits of seeds are fed to it

From this experiment back in the 30s ish, some people concluded that humans are completly conditionable by environment and by those around them , whilst they themselves beleive they are using freewill choice
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A new age of custom made highs and lows is here , the Scottish "SELF TAUGHT"Chemist Dave Llewellyn based himself in Belgium to avoid Scotlands and the uks ever increasing laws on any substance that affects the human psyche in a way they are not sure about, that is all except alcohol and about one million of the aggressive concoctions distributed through the medical profession and pharmaceutical outlets all ovr the uk....they are ok cause they are legal and making money for the correct people

Here is his website selling allsorts of new highs that will be a headache for tomorrows society
ALCHEMY LABZ

And a sky news report on Llewellyn warning about the psychological dangers and expected deaths coming from the use of Naphyrone and other super-drugs from the labs of the far east
SKYNEWSREPORT
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Post  Sputnik Tue 02 Nov 2010, 15:51

Mind control: New study shows how images on a screen can be controlled using thought alone

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1324453/Scientists-digital-pictures-controlled-thought-alone.html

Scientists hope to record our dreams after successful experiments using brain implants


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1324446/Scientist-hope-record-dreams.html


You see Kapis, "medical science" is about much more than curing the patients...they want to control thoughts and emotions.

The irony of it all is that they will only record the physical impulses but never that which causes them to exist.
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