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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 19 Jan 2010, 22:23

The Crusade Continues in Iraq

Washington’s Blog
Tuesday, January 19th, 2010

ABC News is reporting that U.S. military weapons are inscribed with secret ‘Jesus’ Bible codes:

Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the United States military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.

The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army …

One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: “For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”

Other references include citations from the books of Revelation, Matthew and John dealing with Jesus as “the light of the world.” John 8:12, referred to on the gun sights as JN8:12, reads, “Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

Trijicon confirmed to ABCNews.com that it adds the biblical codes to the sights sold to the U.S. military. Tom Munson, director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, which is based in Wixom, Michigan, said the inscriptions “have always been there” and said there was nothing wrong or illegal with adding them. Munson said the issue was being raised by a group that is “not Christian.”The company’s vision is described on its Web site: “Guided by our values, we endeavor to have our products used wherever precision aiming solutions are required to protect individual freedom.” …

A photo on a Department of Defense Web site shows Iraqi soldiers being trained by U.S. troops with a rifle equipped with the bible-coded sights.

“It’s wrong, it violates the Constitution, it violates a number of federal laws,” said Michael “Mikey” Weinstein of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, an advocacy group that seeks to preserve the separation of church and state in the military.”It allows the Mujahedeen, the Taliban, al Qaeda and the insurrectionists and jihadists to claim they’re being shot by Jesus rifles,” he said.

Weinstein, an attorney and former Air Force officer, said many members of his group who currently serve in the military have complained about the markings on the sights. He also claims they’ve told him that commanders have referred to weapons with the sights as “spiritually transformed firearm[s] of Jesus Christ.”

He said coded biblical inscriptions play into the hands of “those who are calling this a Crusade.”

This is an isolated incident, right?

Unfortunately not.

As I wrote on May 4th:

Conservative Christians were the biggest backers of the Iraq war …

One of the top Pentagon officials involved in the Iraq war – General William Boykin – literally:

Sees the “war on terror” as a religious war between Judeo-Christian civilization and Satan, with Islam of course cast in the latter role.

Jeremy Scahill describes Boykin as:

A Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence under Bush. Boykin was part of Donald Rumsfeld’s inner circle at the Pentagon where he was placed in charge of hunting “high-value targets.” Boykin was one of the key U.S. officials in establishing what critics alleged was death-squad-type activity in Iraq.

Boykin’s crusade is also important because one of his assigned jobs was:

Speeding up the flow of intelligence on terrorist leaders to combat teams in the field so that they can attack top-ranking terrorist leaders. It can easily be speculated that it is this urgency to obtain intelligence, and an uncompromising religious outlook backed by a [crusader] mentality, that has led to the lower echelons in the US military to adopt Saddam Hussein-like brutalities.

Moreover, the U.S. military has just been busted trying to convert Afghanis to Christianity (the same thing happened in Iraq).

As Scahill notes:

What’s more, the center of this evangelical operation is at the huge US base at Bagram, one of the main sites used by the US military to torture and indefinitely detain prisoners.

The bottom line is that – while torture was ordered by the highest level Bush administration officials in order to create a false link between 9/11 and Iraq – it seems like many of those who enthusiastically rallied around torture looked at it, literally, as a religious crusade.

As I wrote on May 25th:

According to French President Chirac, Bush told him that the Iraq war was needed to bring on the apocalypse:

In Genesis and Ezekiel Gog and Magog are forces of the Apocalypse who are prophesied to come out of the north and destroy Israel unless stopped. The Book of Revelation took up the Old Testament prophesy:

“And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”

Bush believed the time had now come for that battle, telling Chirac:

“This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins”…

There can be little doubt now that President Bush’s reason for launching the war in Iraq was, for him, fundamentally religious. He was driven by his belief that the attack on Saddam’s Iraq was the fulfilment of a Biblical prophesy in which he had been chosen to serve as the instrument of the Lord.

And British Prime Minister Tony Blair long-time mentor, advisor and confidante said:

“Tony’s Christian faith is part of him, down to his cotton socks. He believed strongly at the time, that intervention in Kosovo, Sierra Leone – Iraq too – was all part of the Christian battle; good should triumph over evil, making lives better.”

Mr Burton, who was often described as Mr Blair’s mentor, says that his religion gave him a “total belief in what’s right and what’s wrong”, leading him to see the so-called War on Terror as “a moral cause”…

Anti-war campaigners criticised remarks Mr Blair made in 2006, suggesting that the decision to go to war in Iraq would ultimately be judged by God.


Given that the Iraq war really was a crusade, the fact that the Pentagon is now saying that it may have to leave troops in Iraq for another decade shows that the crusade is still ongoing under Obama.

Indeed, churchgoers are more likely to back torture of suspected terrorists than atheists (and see this), and torture is apparently still continuing under the Obama administration.
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Re: News in General

Post  seraphim on Wed 20 Jan 2010, 21:35

Was trying to add this before the thread subject changed, so excuse the add on from nowhere.....whew.....

I'm sure this isn't going to suprise you H, but it's true. The real reason why there have been intertribal fights protesting the land between the Hopi and Dine within the last 100 years especially is for the following reason, the government cleverly intervened and did their divide and conquer tactic. The purpose to destroy anything about the Hopis and to have the Navajos or dine do it for them! I noticed this tactic was done in some European countries as well.
But the Natives don't realize they are used as pawns, except for the elders, who See this.
Words are from the Hopi elders from the big 1960's lawsuit.
"Today the Hopis are still compressed upon a tiny island in a great Navajo sea. Despite pressures from without and discord from within, they still maintain their traditional concept of full sovereignty."
" The sume of ninety million appropriated by Congress for the rehabilitation of the Hopi and Navajo tribes: the Hopis refused to accept "any new theories that the Indian Bureau (government created for the pawns) is planning for our lives under this new appropriation. Neither will we abandon our homes."

"The Hoover Commission's proposal to convert the countries 400,000 Indians into "full tax paying citizens" under state jurisdiction: The Hopis questioned the reason for such a proposal because 'ever since the establishment the government of the U.S. has taken over everything by reckless killing, making himself very rich.....There is something terribly wrong with your system of government because after all these years we are still licking on the bones and crumbs that fall to us from your tables.'

"The North Atlantic sercurity treaty (now grown into the NAU) which would bind the U.S., Canada and six nations to an alliance in which an attack against one would be considered an attack against all: The Hopis refused to be bound to any such treaty or to any foreign nation on the grounds that they were an independant nation and all the laws under the Constitution of the U.S. were made without their consent, knowledge or approval. 'We want to come to our own diestiny in our own way. Our tradition and religious training forbid us to harm, kill or molest anyone. We therefore, objected to our boys being forced to be trained for war to become murderers and destroyers.'
And then by the government interfering they had the Hopi sue the Navajo! The traditional Hopi leaders were strongly opposed to this interference and said the land matter was settled by their forefathers a long time ago and not by the government. The traditional chiefs and religious priests are the Hopis real authorities and never recognized or authorized the so called Hopi Tribal council (one was made for the Navajos too by the government) nor agree with the law suit brought against the Navajos. The Hopi people were not even aware of the suit!
So the Hopi leaders stepped in to deal with the matters the traditional way but were ignored by the government made Navajo Tribal council.
These two suits pinpointed, after more than a century, the two prime forces of evil that had beset the Hopis: the Navajos (not to blame for they fell for being pawns and the money, which by the way are a very lost people, the young Navajos are off pretty bad. The government got the Dine bad and now it's really sad, not to mention the big mining going on there) and the U.S. government. The Hopis had no doubt of the outcome. Months before the hearings the Hopi religious leaders prophesied defeat and the loss of their land."
"Those two suits were based merely on secular laws established by a government which had assumed the power of the Creator but had lost all sense of moral values."


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Re: News in General

Post  tgII on Thu 21 Jan 2010, 01:26

On Blackwater, you should probably understand a little more about how
'Christianity' and 'Jesus' are exploited to justify what Blackwater has done
and what this Malta-based corporation are up to.

Mercenary corporations are nothing more then, in Blackwater's case anyway,
protectors for economic interests under the banner of Christianity and 'Jesus.'
It is profoundly and disturbingly malevolent.

To excoriate just how Blackwater's mercenaries are, watch this video,
notice the narcissism of these hot dogs, video tapping themselves shooting at
people at distances of 800 meters like a "turkey shoot." I mean, holy shit!!!



The Iraqis these clowns are shooting at had nothing to do with 911.

To understand how perhaps a concentrated effort plugged into this
discussion will help.



Flames, maintain buddy, maintain.

The world is profoundly fucked up, do you know what their rebuttal
will be, "I didn't see your ass in Iraq."
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Thu 21 Jan 2010, 10:45

Trijicon confirmed to ABCNews.com that it adds the biblical codes to the sights sold to the U.S. military. Tom Munson, director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, which is based in Wixom, Michigan, said the inscriptions “have always been there” and said there was nothing wrong or illegal with adding them. Munson said the issue was being raised by a group that is “not Christian.”The company’s vision is described on its Web site: “Guided by our values, we endeavor to have our products used wherever precision aiming solutions are required to protect individual freedom.” …

Had to read that 3 times to make sure, and the USA allows that , unusual to see an open-wound

The crusades, the jesus and god wars , the greatest example of psycho-puppetry at work

And that BLackwater vid on the turkey-shoot, these guys think their heroes doing that...on their strings operated by some deviant in a plush corporate office in the name of their god

The sickness operates through 3 distributors of psychopathy , the psychopathic corporate white collar in his sky-rise tower , the psychopathic member of government in his vipers nest ,and the psychopathic mankiller on the ground level.
The question always then is, who or what pulls the strings of the psycho-whitecollar

Munson said the issue was being raised by a group that is “not Christian.”
Speechless that this insanity is allowed

The company’s vision is described on its Web site: “Guided by our values, we endeavor to have our products used wherever precision aiming solutions are required to protect individual freedom.” …
BUt he never said it was "Gods word" or "divinely inspired" so hes losing the plot here
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Re: News in General

Post  tgII on Fri 22 Jan 2010, 04:45

  • Strongly disagreeing, Justice John Paul Stevens said in his dissent, "The court's ruling threatens to undermine the integrity of elected institutions around the nation."


That was some strong disagreeing, no? Hahahahaha.... Laughing

"...undermine the integrity of elected institutions..." How's that work?

Justice Stevens sounds like a comedian, if it wasn't so tragic I would
laugh my ass off.
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 23 Jan 2010, 01:10

Majors could do 0 to 60mph in 10 secs

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Post  tgII on Sat 23 Jan 2010, 11:24

The freak show that passes for 'government' has gotten even freakier
with the appointment of Amanda Simpson to be a Senior Technical
Adviser to the Commerce Department.

Goes from a male to a female, I guess, and is qualified in military technology.

Folks, meet the new US Military Combat soldier for the 21st Century, transgender
equality at its finest:

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Post  tgII on Sun 24 Jan 2010, 03:51

Flames, here, allow me.


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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Mon 25 Jan 2010, 17:45

I was listening to the Alex Jones radio broadcast last week.

Alex had mentioned that the Amish, which were German and Swiss settlers that came to what is now the U.S. in the 1600s, had a lot of different rules and exclusions from the federal government.
But these people were also under pressure from the government to follow unfair mandates and rules over the years and had successfully maintained themselves against government impositions on their lifestyle and philosophies.

Alex then declared that the Amish should use their position and exclusions to fight back against the New World Order and that they should form a sect that is modernized and specific to interfacing with the government in effort to bring down the tyranny of government.
He also stated that non-Amish should consider labeling themselves Amish, or Amish-like, form their own groups and do the same under these exclusions and exceptions to also fight the NWO.

After Alex's "suggestions" were heard, a caller claiming to be Amish was now on the line with Alex.
It cannot be 100% verifiable if the caller was Amish, but he sounded like the real thing to me when I was listening.

He then told Alex that the Amish have a philosophy of being allowed to live their lives in peace and be left alone.
And that this would exclude using themselves as offensive elements to battle against the NWO as Alex was stating.
The caller convincingly laid out some history of the Amish and their relations with encroaching government and had to correct Alex on his misappropriation of the Amish designation for purposes the Amish have never, nor would ever, use in the context in which Alex was directing.
And in my opinion, Alex's drawing attention to the Amish, their governmental status and now declaring they should square off against the tyranny would be the best way to have those rights taken away, labeled as terrorists and re-educated Waco-style.

Alex then tried to talk about how the Amish came to this land to escape persecution from the Catholic Church at the time.
And the caller hesitatingly and lightly agreed, but stated that it was the Protestant Reformers that were persecuting them and that the Protestant Reformers, particularly Martin Luther, were the most brutal and murderous of all their oppressors.

This, ahem..."gap", in Alex's knowledge base actually left him speechless and with nothing to say in response for a few deafening seconds.
And then Alex, in his usual form, tried to morph his original ignorant and incorrect statements about it, mesh them with the callers input and regurgitate it so that is sounds as if Alex is still right and so is the caller. It was a lame attempt and failed miserably.
And it shows that Alex will not take the testimony of an educated opinion in an area at face value if it, in any way, sheds a negative light on Protestant Christianity.

Alex was definitely put in his place and came off as an ignorant fool trying to look intelligent.
And his lack of humility won't even allow himself to be wrong, corrected and then move on to being enlightened.
Instead he defends his warped view to some degree for fear of being wrong and looking like an idiot to his audience. He is weak.

Which is why he will never do a debate with any other expert in the conspiracy field in an objective forum with a neutral moderator.
Because then he would not have his finger on the "hold" button and be able to talk over anyone whenever he pleases.
Instead he sits his fat gordo ass down in his chair from his "Texas Command Center" running his fat gordo mouth, saying whatever he pleases and not caring whether he is accurate or not. That is a dangerous thing.
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Mon 25 Jan 2010, 23:36

is there a recorded version (freebie) available of that talk
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