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Post  KapitanScarlet on Mon 16 Nov 2009, 22:41

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Re: Great scenes in Film

Post  tgII on Tue 17 Nov 2009, 23:51

The most salient lines in the poetry from the opening of this
video, KapitanScarlet, is when the poet recites the lines,

"...creation is, all else is not..."

and

"...the artist is, all others are not..."

In the sense artists are the "antenna of culture", as Ezra
Pound once remarked.
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Dr. Strangelove

Post  tgII on Wed 18 Nov 2009, 10:18

A little note on the avatar used by tgII:

Peter Sellers in the one of the best movies directed by
Stanley Kubrick in Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to
Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
. This is the best
scene in the movie, or almost...




"Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday
Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*!
Why didn't you tell the world, EH?"
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Re: Great scenes in Film

Post  KapitanScarlet on Thu 19 Nov 2009, 02:05

Yeah great scene TgII, one of my fave black comedys ... sellers was superb in that one in all parts ... was wondering about the avatar , can see it now

There are some really insightful lines in that bucket of blood opening scene as well
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Re: Great scenes in Film

Post  tgII on Thu 19 Nov 2009, 22:16

Geezuz, Flames, hope you haven't decided to associate me with a
psychopath? What a Face

The idea for the avatar couldn't have come at more of an appropriate time.
I got the idea after listening to this interview several weeks ago so when
Kapis put the new board up it seemed fitting.

Listen to Blackmailed by the Bomb
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Re: Great scenes in Film

Post  KapitanScarlet on Fri 20 Nov 2009, 00:12

Very Happy ay thats a classic sketch with adolf, i thought i saw uri on the drums in one scene

In a hitler speech, i think from "Triumph of the will" , what he says is very interesting , i had the transcript somewhere .


On peter Sellers, His last Film BEING THERE looks like another hidden classic

"The film's title is a direct translation of the term Dasein, used by the German phenomenological philosopher Martin Heidegger to describe the essential nature of human beings. Sellers' character invariably responds to people and phenomena as they present themselves."

" Life is a state of mind "

The final scene is indeed poignant

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Re: Great scenes in Film

Post  tgII on Fri 20 Nov 2009, 07:47

Flames, hahahahaa...you dragged that Youtube video along of Hitler dubbed
in that semi-rock music with the catchy beat, very cool. When I first got
hold of that video I thought, how appropriate as mockery.

I didn't notice it until now, Flames, but towards the end did you notice, the
German Wehrmacht soldier fired a rocket propelled grenade?! I didn't know
the Germans developed that awesome weapon for taking out tanks and
what not?!

Ya,
Kapis, who could forget Peter Sellers in Being There, the end where Peter
Sellers lifts the dead branch off the young sapling reaffirming life and the last
words heard are, "life is a state of mind."

Peter Sellers walks off into his own "state of mind" across the water, how
fitting.

Who could forget Peter Sellers in the Pink Panther series of movies too,
the scene in the lobby of the small inn with the dog, the script writers
on this scene excelled.


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Re: Great scenes in Film

Post  KapitanScarlet on Fri 20 Nov 2009, 08:54

Very Happy
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Re: Great scenes in Film

Post  KapitanScarlet on Mon 23 Nov 2009, 20:38

Dont know of the doc was set on any actual character or not
Yeah i would agree strangelove is the best black comedy of all time, highly intelligent scripting and sellers playing 3 parts superbly along with a great support cast .

As a second to strangelove , one that comes to mind is cAtch 22 , although its maybe a bit blacker , but impressive script again Cool


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Re: Great scenes in Film

Post  tgII on Tue 24 Nov 2009, 00:29

Flames, this quote seems to be appropriate in describing some of
Stanley Kubrick's insights into his films, particularly Dr. Strangelove.
Obviously, Kubrick had a clear understanding of these techniques and
was how both in America and Russia, "the bomb" and "mutual annihilation"
were used to beat their respective populations into submission, i.e.,
please refer to Joseph Farrell's understanding of the back-and-forth
technological transfers putting missions into space.

Dr. Strangelove was a cynical black comedy of this psychological
warfare going on.


    Gedankenexperimente is the German word for “thought experiment.” The gedankenexperimente involves the tangible enactment of hypothetical scenarios in hopes of re-sculpting reality and creating a “new consensus.” Ideas are tested and the underlying assumptions of the current culture are called into question. As the socio-cultural thought experiment progresses, it might give rise to revisions in the status quo and the emergence of new cultural paradigms. Thus, the world of fact begins to more closely mirror the world of fiction. The a priori assumptions of science fiction literature become the de facto precepts of culture itself. In a sense, fiction becomes a precursor to fact.


In the video linked above listen carefully to the part when the general
mentions flouride in the water as some kind of a conspiracy. A lot of
questions were being raised then as well about flouride in the water.
Kubrick put that into the script!

Also, pay attention to the names of characters in the movie, they are
related to the defense industry, think tanks and people involved in the
entire techno-Utopian crowd back then when this movie was made.

Theodor Adorno, the theoretician mostly associated with music,
correctly identified the disjunction between scientific progress and
social progress, citing Nazi Germany as a prime example in his theory.

Many of these theoreticians came out of Germany and had a huge impact
on sociology in America, this may be why there are connections to "Nazis."
Did these theoreticians implement a type of socio-cultural
gedankenexperimente in a techno-Utopianism program in America
using "the bomb" as the psychological mechanism for change?


The Frankfurt School was dedicated to social research and many of its
students left Germany when Hitler came to power and went to Chicago.
These theoreticians had a major impact on how Americans think even until
today.

Important links:

    The Frankfurt School of Social Research:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory_


Influential Frankfurt School theoreticians who had a huge impact on
American thought and influence. This is just a cursory list and there
are many other Frankfurt School theoreticians:

    Herbert Marcuse
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Marcuse

    Max Weber
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Weber

    Sigismund Schlomo Freud
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud

    Max Horkheimer
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Horkheimer

    Jürgen Habermas
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Habermas

    Walter Bendix Schönflies Benjamin
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Benjamin

    Franz Oppenheimer
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Oppenheimer

    Erich Fromm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Fromm


The people from Frankfurt sure did a number on the rest of us didn't they?
A long history of carnage, you would think after all these years of socio-utopian
empire building turning people into mass man, by now circumstances would be a
bit better for us?
Shocked

Now, I'm sort of wondering, is Leonard Peikoff closer to the truth than we
realize or is America closer to the Communist/Marxist ideal these above
mentioned theoreticians have been working on all these years? And just in
case no one has noticed, all of them have Jewish backgrounds with the
exception perhaps of Weber and Fromm.




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Re: Great scenes in Film

Post  tgII on Wed 09 Dec 2009, 12:24

Good afternoon, everyone, the psychopath, Dr. Strangelove, is
back, and Flames, did you have a smoke yet?



I'm just sort of wondering, from this scene in the movie Dr. Strangelove,
Peter Sellers (Group Captain Lionel Mandrake) and Sterling Hayden
(General Jack D. Ripper), are in the middle of a firefight, when General
Ripper suddenly starts talking about water fluoridation being a
'communist conspiracy', saying,


    "...fluoridation is a Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids..."


...and then goes on to further say he was made aware of his,

    "...loss of essence during the physical act of love..."


...and that it "fatigued him." Alright, go to the 6:25 point in this
short clip and have listen to the conversation:




What have we learned since 1964 when Dr. Strangelove was filmed,
well, for one thing, fluoridated water wasn't a "communist conspiracy"
and further, fluoridated water has definitely proven to be extremely
harmful
as the following article points out.


    Fluoride Causes Premature Births, Brain Degradation, Bone Loss, Cancer and Hormone Disruption

    Ethan Huff
    NaturalNews
    Wed, 09 Dec 2009

    A recent study conducted by researchers from the State University of New York (SUNY) found that fluoride ingestion may be responsible for causing premature births. Presented to the American Public Health Association at its annual meeting, these findings ratchet up yet another detrimental consequence of ingesting this toxic poison that is added to most American municipal water supplies.
    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/198626-Fluoride-Causes-Premature-Births-Brain-Degradation-Bone-Loss-Cancer-and-Hormone-Disruption


This film says, "The real Doomsday Machine is men." Actually, the
real Doomsday Machine is sex. Stanley Kubrick, being Jewish, might
explain his obsession with sexual innuendo in the movie.

    Group Captain Lionel Mandrake - The root of the mandrake plant was often used as an aphrodisiac in the past.
    General Jack D. Ripper - Jack the Ripper killed prostitutes.
    Colonel Bat Guano - Bat shit.
    General Buck Turgidson - The definition of "turgid" is "being in state of distension; swollen, tumid."
    Major "King" Kong - King Kong was an interesting symbol of maleness and obsession.
    Russian Premier Kissoff - Telling someone to "kiss off."


How fitting, Flames, isn't smoking a cigarette immediately after
having sex suppose to some how satisfy the lovers?



"Gentlemen, no fighting in the War Room!" -- The psychopath, Dr. Strangelove
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Re: Great scenes in Film

Post  KapitanScarlet on Thu 10 Dec 2009, 22:49

Yeah walkens done some "of the wall" scenes in his times Very Happy

"...loss of essence during the physical act of love..."

The term "foreign agent " for something in the water is great wordplay Smile

That Kubrick was way out in front of his peers in film scripts , in his work, he has layed out a m ountain of information about the esoteric human psyche and its signs and symbols relating to its well being or dysfunction

A true masterpiece among his other masterpieces
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Wed 16 Dec 2009, 00:22

My fave sci film of all time, the concept is so relating to human psychology and the progress of technology



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Post  tgII on Wed 16 Dec 2009, 23:45

"Progress of technology?" Like, Kapis, who gets to decide what is
'progress' and what is not 'progress?'


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Post  KapitanScarlet on Thu 17 Dec 2009, 00:46

a secret confession - i love technology , but in the correct hands , but what is the definition of correct , yeah Very Happy
There was an insightful program on recently about life in a uk nuclear sub, Becvause theyve designed a new one , they allow video of the old one
And to set of the nuke rockets in earnest, requires orders from thine majestys gov, followed by i think it was requiring 3 of the officers to come together in full protocol to allow the trigger... the anti singular psychopath routine, but if we start getting collections of psychopaths in synch , wo, but thats what the extreme discipline training is supposed to do, iron out the individual potential catalyst psychopath seed in each submariner
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Re: Great scenes in Film

Post  KapitanScarlet on Fri 18 Dec 2009, 01:18

Aye cracker fLames

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