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Freestyling
seraphim on Mon 23 Nov 2009 - 2:45
whatever is your fancy......venting, quoting, no expectations at all.....a place where you can talk to yourself.....
admin....maybe this ought to be where those certain angelic and spiritual people end up if they get roudy.
admin....maybe this ought to be where those certain angelic and spiritual people end up if they get roudy.
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Re: Freestyling
Kapis on Mon 23 Nov 2009 - 9:23
Indeed Seraphim , those destabilising forces that may arrive, i decided to put one of my posts in here in the clear light of day
If you think back to when you are a baby , how slowly analytical self-consciousness develops
It takes many years for a human to reach a certain level of analytical self consciousness
But my question always is, are you really "self" -conscious or are there aspects of the psyche that are opened up for your self to be conscious off ?
So self-consciousness is not an aquired endstate it is an ever expanding state
And if you constantly evolve your consciousness , then slowly but surely, other aspects of understanding open up, so what happens is that your dreamworld starts to develop behind a conscious curtain , until it comes to a time, , not known by you or anyone , when you start to have another world unveiled to you in your private dreams, but this world is not completely comprehensible with the daytime consciousness analytical tools, so it requires a new set of percepting tools which have to be developed by the self from scratch, but these new tools seem to be instinctive in their learning so that the self learns a new perception of how consciousness may progress, but it cant quite convert the perception into a working model for daytime conscious analysing because the lessons are not sequentially progressive , they are presented in a confounding pattern which will only begin to make their own sense when your daytime consciousness has had its appetite filled and is ready to adjust into an altered state of understandings
But who then is orchestrating ones dream - The conventional scientific explanation of your own subconscious or unconscious which they dont truly explain in a convincing manner or something else
Actually i meant to enquire what are your thoughts on the origin of your own consciousness HIgh noon, just a chance biological creation with finite time left or something more ?
But no reply required unless one comes to mind that you want to put out
And sometimes what i post may be a little off the wall so to speak but i will try and keep it out of the wah wah room
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Re: Freestyling
seraphim on Wed 25 Nov 2009 - 19:22
...wah wah goo goo gah gah...
I believe that the majority of humans have no sense of self and very little self consciousness. Put a person into any situation and that will become their world or consciousness they have no sense of anything else or who they really are.
Take feral children for example, they act and behave just like an animal, humans somewhat biologically related to them so that makes sense. But the amazing thing is that the person will think they are an animal that is their consciousness throughout their life if kept in those circumstances.
So what people think is their consciousness is only the mass consciousness and nothing to do with their own true Self, any other reality, including the unconscious and dreams which are world of their own and any other perceptions are out the door.
One is criticized in the is world for thinking differently. Their is no such thing as being an individual, everyone must have the same beliefs and thoughts.
As for dreams you seem to be right on. If only a person was born with self consciousness or some kind of awareness. But no it's just a clean slate, why is that. And why was the part that got developed in the brain of the first human was the motor and visual skills. To be more productive obviously......it's always...outside influences that shape a person....which leaves the person empty, a slave, no sense of their Self at all.
I believe that the majority of humans have no sense of self and very little self consciousness. Put a person into any situation and that will become their world or consciousness they have no sense of anything else or who they really are.
Take feral children for example, they act and behave just like an animal, humans somewhat biologically related to them so that makes sense. But the amazing thing is that the person will think they are an animal that is their consciousness throughout their life if kept in those circumstances.
So what people think is their consciousness is only the mass consciousness and nothing to do with their own true Self, any other reality, including the unconscious and dreams which are world of their own and any other perceptions are out the door.
One is criticized in the is world for thinking differently. Their is no such thing as being an individual, everyone must have the same beliefs and thoughts.
As for dreams you seem to be right on. If only a person was born with self consciousness or some kind of awareness. But no it's just a clean slate, why is that. And why was the part that got developed in the brain of the first human was the motor and visual skills. To be more productive obviously......it's always...outside influences that shape a person....which leaves the person empty, a slave, no sense of their Self at all.
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Re: Freestyling
Flames on Wed 25 Nov 2009 - 21:12
.it's always...outside influences that shape a person....which leaves the person empty, a slave, no sense of their Self at all.
Seraphim, it is for this very reason I attempt to limit my involvement with "the outside world". Meaning, not the world itself, but its ideals, systems of control, psychopaths, degenerates, half-wits, tough guys, slut bags, etc...
It actually works. It is possible to cool down ones racing thoughts, and experience "just being", by being alone. I'm sure you're aware of this. This is next to impossible to do with vampires out there sucking the life force from everything within their reach. I have to spend a portion of time everyday, building myself up before the soul sucking of society begins.
Another problem I have is looking at the mass madness in individuals around me, as it's impossible for any sane human to ignore. Though, it's important to realize the soul sucking that can take place in the process of identifying the crazy of the outside world.
For whatever reason, the majority of my fellow college students are ex Iraq veterans. I deal with the most brainwashed, "ready to kill on a moments notice" sort of people you can imagine. Incidentely, most are in the field of criminal justice. Even the ladies there are control freaks. This takes a lot out of me.
I live by the philosophy of "just be", but I'm also aware that that philosophy can easily be raped by the gigantic dildo of society if one does not learn to build themselves up, i.e. immunity.
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Re: Freestyling
tgII on Wed 25 Nov 2009 - 22:10
Seraphim, it is for this very reason I attempt to limit my involvement with "the outside world". Meaning, not the world itself, but its ideals, systems of control, psychopaths, degenerates, half-wits, tough guys, slut bags, etc...
The shaman as Peter Lavenda discusses, isolates himself/herself from the tribe and attempts to make sense of the irrational and the rational in this world. Listening to an MP3 file, thanks, Saraphim, of Freeman, he made reference to the fact most of humanity are "living in a trauma based society."
Further reading of Peter Lavenda, confirms that you can control "synchronicity" or "coincidence" in your life to some degree to avoid the psychopaths, degenerates, systems of control and half wits, not to mention potentially extremely dangerous people. I first discovered this with Paul Salomon, a practitioner of the esoteric, not occultism, and there is a huge difference, when I started working with what Paul Salomon referred to as "precipitation", another word/expression for synchronicity. I actually manifested on several occasions physical objects I needed at the time and it was more through a "natural" motivation rather than what has been a manipulative type of synchronicity for power.
I am beginning to get the impression a manipulation of synchronicity by very powerful occult forces, e.g., Jewish mysticism using the Kaballah and Hebrew, to scientifically control synchronicity, have unleashed forces on the rest of us that cannot be called back.
One is criticized in the is world for thinking differently. Their is no such thing as being an individual, everyone must have the same beliefs and thoughts.
This world has rejected the shaman type, we have no where to go, we are the outcasts, the people who are constantly at war between their hearts and their emotions, as Miguel de Unamuno discussed in his book The Tragic Sense of Men and Nations. My family name can actually be traced back to mean, the "profane", the "ones on the outside looking in." I'm doomed to a life of acute observation and helplessness.
The entire government of the United States has a power elite in positions of authority many having connections to the occult at some juncture, after all, it is a money faith-based system of control which has stripped humanity of its soul and spirituality replacing it with the religion of pure hyper-rational science the ramifications of which are truly terrifying.
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Re: Freestyling
Kapis on Wed 25 Nov 2009 - 23:19
I enjoyed reading through all 3 revealing and insightful posts above in the seraphim created freestyle area
Now this term precipitation got my attention Tg , i had vague memories of you mentioning this before , but i could not recall all the details.
Im not sure about the textbook definition of SYnchronicity, but i have posted my own understanding of it on the symbol section , i always perceived synchronicity as the outside world conspiring to arrange and present one with an event that is acutely related / synchronised to a personal private recognition in ones mind so that one is left with the potential possibility that something is communicating to one through circumstance because the chance factor odds have long left any scale of measurement
Now when i did a search for precipitation , this page came up
http://www.wisdomofsolomon.com/pslec17.html
and this is highlighted.....
The law of precipitation can be stated as simply as this:
“Whatsoever thing you ask in prayer, believing that you have already received it, you have.”
If you ask for something believing that it is yours, it is on its way. It is already yours. It is something that you can count on. With that sense of expectancy -- asking for it and believing that you have already received it, assuming that it already exists for you and that it is on its way -- then, get on with your life.
Get busy with the next step. Get busy with your reason for being here, and what you need will automatically come to you. Another law of money says “If you are doing something that should be done, the universe will provide the means to finance it, and you.”. . .
Now shades of the law of attraction comes to mind, but we all know that that law was shrunk and mutated by greedy minds way out of its original more complex operation
But the part written before my above stated quote is this
. . Where do you start if you are flat broke? The thing to do if you are flat broke is to look around at the needs in your neighborhood and start meeting a need. Start meeting any genuine need that is before you. If someone’s lawn needs mowing, do it. If someone’s house needs repair, see that it gets done. If there is a need for volunteers in your community, which there always is, get involved. Look for a way to meet the needs of others. Do not just look for a way to earn money.
Focusing on a way to make money is a mistake. Most individuals make that mistake and, as a result, receive only a portion of what is available to them.
Look for a need that you would like to meet, and then look for a way to meet it. Become involved in the lives of others. When you make yourself valuable to others, money will come to you automatically. Make yourself valuable. Make yourself valuable to someone who has a need, and you will be paid in return for your giving. The source of your payment may not be the person you helped, but someone will pay you. If you are making yourself valuable to others, money will come to you.
Once you are making yourself valuable by meeting the needs in people’s lives, ask your source, God, to meet your needs. Then, go ahead and live as if that prayer is being answered. Live your life expecting that your needs will be met, knowing that what you have asked for is coming to you.
So he is proposing 2 actions , use observation , perception, deductive reasoning skills to identofy the means to a need , then also invoke a private prayer to ones private god or the higher powers whatever one perceives as the godforce to help pull results to one .
Is this how it was presented to you TGII , or can you present it in a more revealing nature more accurate to your own personal experience ?
Understandable if you do not have the time nor inclination to expand on something that may be completely private but the door is always open here should anything come to mind that you feel may be expansive to understandings
note - i definetly agree that you can influence synchronicitys
Now this term precipitation got my attention Tg , i had vague memories of you mentioning this before , but i could not recall all the details.
Im not sure about the textbook definition of SYnchronicity, but i have posted my own understanding of it on the symbol section , i always perceived synchronicity as the outside world conspiring to arrange and present one with an event that is acutely related / synchronised to a personal private recognition in ones mind so that one is left with the potential possibility that something is communicating to one through circumstance because the chance factor odds have long left any scale of measurement
Now when i did a search for precipitation , this page came up
http://www.wisdomofsolomon.com/pslec17.html
and this is highlighted.....
The law of precipitation can be stated as simply as this:
“Whatsoever thing you ask in prayer, believing that you have already received it, you have.”
If you ask for something believing that it is yours, it is on its way. It is already yours. It is something that you can count on. With that sense of expectancy -- asking for it and believing that you have already received it, assuming that it already exists for you and that it is on its way -- then, get on with your life.
Get busy with the next step. Get busy with your reason for being here, and what you need will automatically come to you. Another law of money says “If you are doing something that should be done, the universe will provide the means to finance it, and you.”. . .
Now shades of the law of attraction comes to mind, but we all know that that law was shrunk and mutated by greedy minds way out of its original more complex operation
But the part written before my above stated quote is this
. . Where do you start if you are flat broke? The thing to do if you are flat broke is to look around at the needs in your neighborhood and start meeting a need. Start meeting any genuine need that is before you. If someone’s lawn needs mowing, do it. If someone’s house needs repair, see that it gets done. If there is a need for volunteers in your community, which there always is, get involved. Look for a way to meet the needs of others. Do not just look for a way to earn money.
Focusing on a way to make money is a mistake. Most individuals make that mistake and, as a result, receive only a portion of what is available to them.
Look for a need that you would like to meet, and then look for a way to meet it. Become involved in the lives of others. When you make yourself valuable to others, money will come to you automatically. Make yourself valuable. Make yourself valuable to someone who has a need, and you will be paid in return for your giving. The source of your payment may not be the person you helped, but someone will pay you. If you are making yourself valuable to others, money will come to you.
Once you are making yourself valuable by meeting the needs in people’s lives, ask your source, God, to meet your needs. Then, go ahead and live as if that prayer is being answered. Live your life expecting that your needs will be met, knowing that what you have asked for is coming to you.
So he is proposing 2 actions , use observation , perception, deductive reasoning skills to identofy the means to a need , then also invoke a private prayer to ones private god or the higher powers whatever one perceives as the godforce to help pull results to one .
Is this how it was presented to you TGII , or can you present it in a more revealing nature more accurate to your own personal experience ?
Understandable if you do not have the time nor inclination to expand on something that may be completely private but the door is always open here should anything come to mind that you feel may be expansive to understandings
note - i definetly agree that you can influence synchronicitys
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Re: Freestyling
rainyday on Fri 4 Dec 2009 - 2:27
You know, it's weird...
Things that use to stress me out now actually make me laugh.
Is that weird or what?
The government is going to tax me out of business, HA Go ahead...make my day. 
It just means I won't be financially contributing to the sickness,...
All the fights between the political parties. Obama can't make up his mind. Send troops, don't send troops, it's not really a fight between the groups, they are actually working together to find more ways to tax the people. Ok, Obama finally agreed to send 30,000 more troops. The dems act like they are pissed off, but they are not pissed, they are thrilled.
It's going to cost one million for every military person that deploys. HA Thanks Congress, you are useful for something after all. I can't say what they are good for because...well because...it's so sinister I can't even type it out and I definitely can't follow that rabbit hole. I will just pass it by on my way thru and not look...
I can't actually face the boots on the ground part, ... so what I can't face, I'll just ignore, you know,?
Thanks republicans, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Fox news etc... you beat the Obama won't listen to the general and what a disgrace of a president drum so much that the people who profess to hate paying taxes have been convinced to actually love paying the war taxes. It's for a good cause you know.
and OBAMA, oh lets not forget how COOL he is, if anyone has some ideas on creating some jobs, he is willing to hear them.
That's a BIG HA...
I have a few good ideas, but my freedom of speech has been suppressed.
HA that's ok..
And then there is Glen Beck.
The Independent. HA What a guy. I can't help it, he is just so cute with those fat little chubby cheeks and those big blue eyes. I purchased his book, Arguing with Idiots, because i couldn't resist. Who's the idiot, right? HA 
It's actually a entertaining read.
I just love the back cover where everyone on the liberal left is bashing him and he has this big tear streaming down his face. OMG funny So he is the middle man. I love his connecting the dots on the chalkboard thing.
Actually, he should do his show out on the city streets. He could use sidewalk chalk and connect dots for miles if he were actually trying to accomplish something with the connect the dots illustration.
The tyranny has become so tyrannical it's hysterically funny.
Things that use to stress me out now actually make me laugh.
Is that weird or what?The government is going to tax me out of business, HA
Go ahead...make my day. It just means I won't be financially contributing to the sickness,...
All the fights between the political parties. Obama can't make up his mind. Send troops, don't send troops, it's not really a fight between the groups, they are actually working together to find more ways to tax the people. Ok, Obama finally agreed to send 30,000 more troops. The dems act like they are pissed off, but they are not pissed, they are thrilled.
It's going to cost one million for every military person that deploys. HA
Thanks Congress, you are useful for something after all. I can't say what they are good for because...well because...it's so sinister I can't even type it out and I definitely can't follow that rabbit hole. I will just pass it by on my way thru and not look...I can't actually face the boots on the ground part, ... so what I can't face, I'll just ignore, you know,?
Thanks republicans, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Fox news etc... you beat the Obama won't listen to the general and what a disgrace of a president drum so much that the people who profess to hate paying taxes have been convinced to actually love paying the war taxes.
It's for a good cause you know. and OBAMA, oh lets not forget how COOL he is, if anyone has some ideas on creating some jobs, he is willing to hear them.
That's a BIG HA... I have a few good ideas, but my freedom of speech has been suppressed.
HA that's ok.. And then there is Glen Beck.
The Independent. HA
What a guy. I can't help it, he is just so cute with those fat little chubby cheeks and those big blue eyes. I purchased his book, Arguing with Idiots, because i couldn't resist. Who's the idiot, right? HA It's actually a entertaining read.
I just love the back cover where everyone on the liberal left is bashing him and he has this big tear streaming down his face.
OMG funny So he is the middle man. I love his connecting the dots on the chalkboard thing. Actually, he should do his show out on the city streets. He could use sidewalk chalk and connect dots for miles if he were actually trying to accomplish something with the connect the dots illustration.
The tyranny has become so tyrannical it's hysterically funny.
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Re: Freestyling
tgII on Fri 4 Dec 2009 - 14:23
rainyday, I suppose the seriousness of our circumstances is why it
seems all so funny, one of those anomalies of human psychology I
guess.
Actually then, humor is not very funny.
seems all so funny, one of those anomalies of human psychology I
guess.
Actually then, humor is not very funny.
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Re: Freestyling
rainyday on Sat 5 Dec 2009 - 2:59
Laughing keeps me from screaming and going on a sniper rampage.
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Re: Freestyling
seraphim on Mon 7 Dec 2009 - 21:19
Make my day...
Hello tbonez, Blackbird and pacification
Hello tbonez, Blackbird and pacification
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Re: Freestyling
Flames on Tue 8 Dec 2009 - 4:05
Laughing keeps me from screaming and going on a sniper rampage.
This is such an important point. Sometimes it seems next to impossible to find humor in anything, given how f'd this world is.
The people running this planet think things are pretty funny, and you know, taking a step back, the current state of the world is pretty comical when you think about it.
I was listening to Mtsar's recent Red Ice interview about his "ant hill" analogy and it's impressive to contemplate that analogy for a bit.
Last night I was imagining if intelligent life observed this planet from "up there", they'd probably think we were all a bunch of worker ant like species and then stomp the shit out of us, because isn't that what usually happens? Now that's funny.
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Re: Freestyling
rainyday on Tue 8 Dec 2009 - 14:28
Speaking of FUNNY... LMAO Old news, but funny...
Tenn. mayor: Obama blocked 'Peanuts' special
http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/2009/12/04/20091204tennmayor-obama-ON.html
LMAO Old news, but funny...Tenn. mayor: Obama blocked 'Peanuts' special
http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/2009/12/04/20091204tennmayor-obama-ON.html
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Re: Freestyling
seraphim on Wed 6 Jan 2010 - 1:24
A very big thanks and happy birthday to Yoganandaji!
We are what we think we are. The habitual inclination of our thoughts determines our talents and abilities, and our personality. Thus, some think they are writers or artists, industrious or lazy, and so on. What if you want to be other than what you presently think you are? You may argue that others have been born with the special talent you lack but desire to have. This is true. But they had to cultivate the habit of that ability some time -- if not in this life, then in a previous one. So whatever you want to be, start to develop that pattern now. You can instill any trend in your consciousness right now, provided you inject a strong thought in your mind; then your actions and whole being will obey that thought.
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Re: Freestyling
Blackbird on Tue 26 Jan 2010 - 3:14
Hello Seraphim . This is a cool idea...a "freestyling" thread.
. This is a cool idea...a "freestyling" thread.Last edited by Blackbird on Tue 26 Jan 2010 - 6:36; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Sorry, nonsensical post... maybe some things are better left unwritten.)
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