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Post  Sputnik on Mon 02 Jul 2012, 18:48

2 Weeks ago I traveled to Coratia to visit my grandmother. She is/was 91 years old.
I went to the cathedral and asked the blessed Virgin Mary for a peaceful death.


My grandmother died on Sunday. She had breakfast, then she took a nap, and left our world.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 03 Jul 2012, 18:54

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Post  KapitanScarlet on Wed 04 Jul 2012, 03:25

91 a very satisfactory age to reach and to depart peacefully during a nap is a natural passing

My Sympathies


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Post  Sputnik on Sat 07 Jul 2012, 18:17

Thanks for all the kind words. I hope She be in a really neat parallel reality somewhere near by, LOL...
on a different kind of wave particle perhaps. I will miss her, but that's okay.
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 21 Jul 2012, 01:14

Thank you in advance for well-wishes (:
Ive had a terrible traumatic couple of days this week myself , i will keep it short here, whereby i found out my mother was in hospital having been labelled as having suffered a heart attack, and before anyone could draw breath, they had her in a lab doing a heart op , at that point i feared the real possibility that something could go terribly wrong, I'm completely ignorant of modern medical procedures.

It turned out they gave her something called an anjiogram and also installed a stent into an artery near the heart which they said had a blockage , she was actually conscious while they did this and they were showing her some parts on a live camera as it happened , i can't question her bravery , it makes me queazy just thinking about any internal body ops etc
But this op was carried out through her wrist , installing tubes up the artery/vain Shocked

after the op they say she has irregular heartbeat and some other small complications which they think they can manage with various "Drugs"

A few years ago, unknown to me , a routine doctor had told her she had high blood pressure and prescribed pills for that but apart from that she never smoked, is pretty active etc ,although i think some high stress recent circumstances would not have helped her general well-being

I have many questions about the whole process but am not rocking the boat in any way until she out of hospital, in fact i may not say anything about what happened in a negative way, because she seems satisfied about how things went down, and I've learnt slowly but surely that many times it can do a lot more harm than one imagines by questioning someones core beliefs in to dramatic a manner or even contradicting them , peoples beliefs and the ways they believe the world operates are very tied to their health as well i think . Im just so glad she is ok because when someone close is playing the cards with death, its a most terrible period to endure .

And this engagement with death really shakes up some areas of the psyche

Ive had a bad year this year, a very healthy friend was found dead of a supposed heart attack (circumstances surrounding that sudden death still to be revealed to me ) this guy worked overseas a lot though but was a george clooney lookalike and oozed health , some thought he was in the secret services although he officially was a geologist , yeah that was a real shock as well for me and i mourned , still think of him quite a lot in certain scenarios , i can hear his voice very clearly

Conclusion - Death is always close and one is always fighting to keep purpose strong and hopes alive , it always matters somewhere to someone to do so
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Sat 21 Jul 2012, 06:47

When they find a certain degree of arterial blockage it is best to do the procedure as soon as possible. To minimize risk of heart attack and damage to the heart...or even stroke.

And the use of an expander or stent through the arm or leg is a very conservative approach versus having to cut open the chest, cut through the ribcage with bolt cutters and do a bypass surgery which was the old way of handling a blockage. Older people tend to have complications or die due to the harshness of open heart surgery rather than heart disease itself.

Hope your mom recovers quickly.
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Post  Sputnik on Sat 21 Jul 2012, 11:38

I am sorry to hear about your friend Kapis. When you think about him then send him your message, I am sure he will receive it in some kind of way.

Just a couple of weeks ago some seemingly smart doctor figured out why my 10 year younger brother has been suffering from a very high blood pressure....appearantly his toncils are gigantic...they make him snore, and so he doesn't get enough air (breathing problems) which causes in his case this unnatural high bloodpressure....and he's been taking heavy blood pressure meds since 4 years now (not a really good soulution so far). As one can see, the causes for a physiological condition can have different causes.

Your description of what your mother went thru sounds like a sudden cardiac arrest. It's been equalled with heart attack...but what happens is a bit different. Its not the artery clogging (which destroys heart muscle but is not immediately lethal), it's the rapid quivering of the main pumping chambers in the bottom of the heart, called the ventricles. When this occurs, little blood gets out. Brain cells die. The more time that goes by without the heart being restored to a normal rhythm, the patient's odds of survival drop. It's really good that the clogging was diagnosed in time.

As to why this artery clogging seems to be on the rise I know very little...but they used to blame "cholesterol" for it, but I personally doubt that that is the whole story, it seems to be only a partial truth.

What actually starts the process of clogged arteries is a lack of vitamin C or ascorbate. Technically, this is called subclinical scurvy. Tiny cracks form in the arteries due to a lack of ascorbate. The body uses cholesterol to bandage over and patch these cracks. This is a protective measure on the body's part to overcome the existence of these cracks. Otherwise, there would be internal bleeding. So it is not actually the cholesterol that starts the process of clogged arteries, it is the lack of ascorbate that begins the process of plaque being created in the arteries. Plaque is the name given to cholesterol as it builds up to cover the arterial cracks and then hardens in the arteries to form clogged arteries.

What can be done to clean clogged arteries? Give the body ascorbate. The body knows how to clean clogged arteries when given the proper substances. Buffered mineral ascorbates can be used to help heal the clogged arteries. There are other synergistic substances that can be used as well to help clean and restore clogged arteries.

At least this is what a Nobel Prize winning scientist has claimed to be a good prevention:
http://www.articlesbase.com/non-fiction-articles/twice-nobel-prize-winning-scientist-claimed-found-artery-clogging-cure-101569.html

And 'Natural News site' had a article about arteriosclerosis, it might be worth reading it too:
http://www.naturalnews.com/002686.html

Hydroginated oils is virtually in all convenient (processed) foods....and the big problem with it is that the fat molecules have been unnaturally re-arranged...which makes it impossible for the body to flush them out. That's why margerine is about 10 times more lethal than ordinary butter.

It would be a good thing to talk about dietry changes with your loved ones...and also good meats vs bad meats, like it's wise to quit all pork products and instead eat fish (not smoked), beef and poltry...

I really hope your mother stays strong and recovers quikly...with a new sense of self and motivation...to start a new life and to see it as a second chance....I know how traumatising these hospital experiences are, but she seems to be a very brave Lady.

When you spend time with your mother it's good to focus on your love for her...that's a great medicine (as you yourself am suspecting) Smile
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 21 Jul 2012, 23:14

Thx Qsc, yeah these ops are quite amazing compared to the old hammer and chisel days and i must congratulate the fine skills that carry them out

Gracias Sputnik, excellent info on the mechanics of the pump and this increase in clogging etc , i see what your saying there makes a lot of sense , they were blaming the old dog cholesterol once more , saying that a recent bit of hard work by my mother may have led to a piece of artery fur breaking off and choking the flow, they were speculating of course , but my main concern is that uk national health although very techno able, is very one dimensional in its rigid physicality analysis which means that all cures lead to the taking of pharma and actually they don't say theres a cure any more because now the pharma is for ongoing maintenance , because the drug production is so great now, compulsory ongoing consumers are required to keep the market flowing and growing

This is my concern that the good people in the health system will have their new ideas and inquiries into current practices quashed by this big powerful money making giant that doers not tolerate any form of protest about its presence and growth

Regarding Love as a best medicine, as lieutenant columbo (a merchant of truth ) once mentioned, for certain distinct situations where a truth inquiry can be more detrimental than beneficial , sometimes kindness is better than truthfulness
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Sun 22 Jul 2012, 18:05

You are right sputnik, in a healthy body cholesterol or high cholesterol is not a problem leading to heart disease.
But other things due contribute to heart disease and once those changes take place, then healthy or even healthy high cholesterol may become more of a hazard.
At least that is how I have come to understand it. But limiting or lowering cholesterol to very low levels is not sound health advice...unless you are really bad off and compromised.
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