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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Mon 25 Jul 2011, 17:31

Norway killer tells judge that two more cells exist...

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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Mon 25 Jul 2011, 17:48

OSLO- The confessed killer of more than 90 people in Norway wanted to prepare by hiring two top-class prostitutes and drinking some expensive French wine, the document he distributed on the Internet showed on Monday.

In a 1,500-page manifesto and instruction manual for would-be “crusaders” against Islam and liberal European politicians, the document written by Anders Behring Breivik says preparations should include a photo session after a “few hours in a solarium to look fresher”.

Breivik, who police say has confessed to the killing, was appearing in court on Monday on a police request to hold him for a further eight weeks after his Friday detention.

The manifesto sets out Breivik’s ideas and also documents a period from April 2002 to the day before the July 22 attacks, showing a mixture of obsessive planning and glimpses of his everyday life.

“This house is infested with beetles. Just now I was about to reach for a chocolate in my goodie bag and a beetle had crawled in,” he wrote of the farm where he made his preparations.

The document discusses friends and family and says at the end of April he spent time “partying” before getting down to work on the farm he rented to make a bomb.

He wrote that he was surprised by visitors a number of times and sometimes suspected it was the police.

He said he had been storing three bottles of expensive French red wine. “Considering the fact that my martyrdom operation draws ever closer I decided to bring one to enjoy with my extended family at our annual Christmas party in December.”

“My thought was to save the last flask for my last martyrdom celebration and enjoy it with the two high-class model whores I intend to rent prior to the mission,” he wrote.

It was not clear from the document whether he did do that.

But he said in an entry dated July 11 that he had “bought a lot of exquisite food and candy” to recharge his batteries.

The document also shows an extensive use of steroids and protein drinks to provide him with more energy and one point he writes that he wishes he could obtain “aggressiveness pills”.

Breivik wrote of himself as a righteous crusader on a mission to save European “Christendom” from a tide of Islam.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Mon 25 Jul 2011, 21:50

Here is a list of suspect happenings around the Oslo incident from a comment post at prison planet...

Liberty1st Reply:
July 25th, 2011 at 9:52 am

Currently my growing list is as follows:

A quick review of my running list of suspicious items over the Oslo massacre…

1. Definitely more than one gunman according to multiple witnesses

2. No blast crater in any pictures or videos from during and right after the blast

3. Police called to the gunman by name before the arrest

4. Training exercises just prior to the event

5. Mulitiple distractions: Muslim connection, airport rail-link attack both withdrawn

6. Norway’s support for Palestine

7. Norway’s intent to withdraw from Libya (and possibly Afghanistan)

8. EU insistence Norway put in a snoopers charter on communications but the vast majority of the populace are completely against it

9. Gunman massacres people of same ilk, but wanna-be future politicians.

10. Freemason connection

11. Huge manifesto similar to una-bomber

12. Far too recent social media accounts set up

13. Pictures of gunman without any discernible background (photoshopped?)

14. Secret court appearance in the world’s most open society

15. Original facebook page in Norwegian, deleted/removed. New one put up in English and modified AFTER he was taken into custody. (http: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/abbe.jpg/)

16. Son of a career diplomat who spent childhood in Norwegian Embassy in London. (Similar to underwear bomber father who was diplomat too.)

17. There is little law the EU wants Norway to have but which the Norwegian people are vehemently against. It’s called datalagringsdirektivet. Essentially it is an EU directive which would require Norwegian authorities to store all the communications data between any parties for a long time.

P.M Stoltenberg and those of his ilk (fellow Bilderburgers [lol]) and the police chiefs are clamouring for it. Rank and file politicians refuse to vote for it because they KNOW that if they do they will be replaced with certainty the next election there.

So, the US, UK and EU may have echelon and similar programs in place, but Norway being a very open society doesn’t. And this to me is a possible motive for the Oslo massacres: to make the people want this stupid law to keep them safe.

Now this is very interesting…

Yes, I would agree from all I have researched in Norwegian media, lame-stream and alternative, Breivik is indeed a patsy. And it would make sense in light of the fact that the very first court appearance has been closed off from prying eyes of the media or just even concerned citizens.

Why is this criminal matter being started in shroud of secrecy which is utterly against the Norwegian standards of openness?

Could it be that the Prime Minister’s (Jens Stoltenberg’s) comments about responding to this event with “more democracy, more openness” was double speak to push through that EU directive the Norwegian populace vehemently opposes? More openness through more snooping. I bet it is, but time will tell.

It is NOT a good omen that Breiviks first court appearance is held in secrecy when Norway is such an incredibly open society.

More will be revealed in time, that’s for sure, meanwhile don’t forget…

NO BLAST CRATER = NO CAR BOMB!
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

The Telegraph UK on sunday 24, 2011
17.24 Jon Snow from Channel 4 News asks why police knew the killer’s name by the time they had arrived on the island.

“…he surrendered the moment police called his name 3 minutes after they arrived. What we don’t know is how the police knew the terrorist’s name before they arrested him.”

‎12.07 Telegraph reporter Peter Hutchinson, who is in Oslo, reports that SIX (6) men have been arrested in connection to the attacks:
Officers are scouring the derelict building near to the capital’s bypass in connection with the attacks on Friday. Neighbours reported that six men, dressed only in their underwear, wear taken away by police this morning

I will updating my running list of anomalies on a daily basis, because I am certain that this will be used to bring in laws for more snooping, less liberty – despite what the Norwegian Prime Minister said in his first speech about the massacre where he called for “more democracy, more openness” in response to the massacre.

As far as I’m concerned that statement is already double-speak because the criminal proceedings today were held in secret in cotradiction to long standing history of openness and in violation of above-mentioned speech.


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Re: News in General

Post  seraphim on Mon 25 Jul 2011, 21:54

Guess you were meant to read this, just now booted me out with your post. Smile
That's great, Quicksilvercrescendo I really hope you make it through and great you are taking steps because Tyche will be here soon it seems. Those poppies might come in handy in the end. Neutral
According to the research, the planetary alignments with whatever this Body is are right on sync with this living Earth's catastrophes.

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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Mon 25 Jul 2011, 22:11

The killer is a self-described masonic Templar Zionist, yet Alex Jones puts up an article claiming he is a freemason and a nazi. The killer's own manifest states he is against nazism.
It has been adequately shown that eighty percent of all prison planet sponsors and paid advertisers are Jewish.


One of the unheralded and least known facts about Freemasonry and the Masonic Lodge is its Jewish origins and nature. The religion of Judaism, based on the Babylonian Talmud, and the Jewish Cabala (or, Kabala), an alchemical system of magic and deviltry, form the basis for the Scottish Rite’s 33 ritual degree ceremonies.
Thus, The Jewish Tribune of New York, on October 28, 1927, stated; “Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic Ritual and what is left?”
The well known rabbi, Isaac Wise, was emphatic when he concluded: “Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end.”
In the classic treatise of the Masons, Morals and Dogma, authored by the late Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite, Albert Pike, we discover the revelation that the Jewish cabala is the very basis of Masonic practice and ritual and that the cabalistic “Theology of the Sephiroth” is at the root of all Masonic knowledge. This, admits Pike, is “high magic,” the “Sacerdotal Art,” and the “Royal Art.”
The Jewish cabalistic nature of Masonry is demonstrated by the Lodge’s odd view of evil. Pike writes: “The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahweh reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but the negation of God…For the Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument of Liberty and Free Will.”
Now the lid is blown off the forbidden, secret powderkeg of the Masonic Jews who run Israel and, by extension, the United States and the world.
‘Neo-Nazi, masonic-lodge mindset (?) – Norway’s new brand of terror’ ?????

Yeah right this is a NAZI conspiracy. It’s real safe to constantly refer to NAZI’s but never Zionism. NAZI Germany was defeated over 66 years ago, but it’s real safe to keep using it for reference. Yes the NAZI’s did some bad and evil things…but today there is a state in the middle east that refuses to draw their borders and is treating the Palestinians the way the NAZI’s treated,ironically, the Jews during WW 2. This is happening TODAY. The Zionist Fascist Jews in Israel are doing a pretty good imitation of the NAZI’s. The mirror’s not very friendly for some!
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Re: News in General

Post  tgII on Mon 25 Jul 2011, 22:21

Good intel/intelligence Qsc, thanks. Keep it coming...

Links looking more all the time leading back to Britain...

For our mutual edification, Qsc...

  • "One of the primary architects being John Dee, who conceived the British empire as a magical act; 'magical' in the sense that this empire would be powered mainly by illusion, deceit, the double-cross and profound irrational secrecy, as embedded within the science and art of espionage and the religion of Judaism."


Gee, plotted in London. Do ya think?



A big part of the Nazi/Ashkanazi International is centered in the City of London. Once
again, Israel is the creation of the City of London.






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Re: News in General

Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Mon 25 Jul 2011, 22:28

Breivik’s claims that he did indeed have accomplices dovetail with eyewitness reports that at least two killers were involved in the deadly shooting.

The Norwegian VG newspaper has claimed that victims reported shots fired at the summer camp on Utoya island coming from “two different places on the island at the same time.”

A d v e r t i s e m e n t

Survivor, Alexander Stavdal said;

“I believe that there were two people who were shooting.”

The witnesses described the second man as a 180-centimeter tall, dark-haired man with Nordic appearance with “a pistol in his right hand and a rifle on his back.”

An anonymous 16-year old girl told VG paper that the gunmen seemed to be in a hurry, but nevertheless “always made sure that their victims were shot dead.”

Further eyewitness accounts described shooting incidents in two different areas on the island, one with a handgun and the other with a ‘sniper rifle’.

There is no indication that the alleged second gunman is related to the story of a second man being seized by special forces in an area where victims’ relatives had gathered on Sunday.

Norwegian Police have said “there are no concrete reports of a second gunman, although we’re not excluding any possibilities”.

A further police press conference is scheduled this afternoon to address the claims of accomplices.

As we have also reported today, despite being portrayed by the media as inept due to the length of time it took them to reach the island of Utoeya, it has now emerged that police knew Breivik’s identity before they even arrested him, raising yet more questions surrounding the attacks.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Mon 25 Jul 2011, 22:32

On Sunday, The Telegraph reported that Scotland Yard is searching for a shadowy network of Brits who allegedly hosted Norway’s accused mass murderer, Anders Behring Breivik, prior to his killing spree last week.

Officials say Breivik claimed that he was just one of up to 80 “solo martyr cells” recruited throughout Western Europe who were ready to follow his example of trying to overthrow governments tolerant of Islam, according to the newspaper.

Breivik supposedly considers himself a successor to the medieval Knights Templar. He said he was recruited at a meeting in London in April 2002 hosted by two English extremists and attended by eight people.

In his massive manifesto that lifts entire sections of Unabomber Ted Kaczynski’s treatise against modern civilization, Breivik said he had communicated with the English Defense League.

The EDL is at best a marginal political group consisting of around 300 dedicated members. It counters Muslim demonstrations against the occupation of Afghanistan, rallies against supporters of the Palestinian cause, and has clashed with socialists.

In February, the group reportedly formed a coalition with anti-immigration groups from Norway, Sweden and the Netherlands, as well as other more established groups from France, Germany and Denmark.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Mon 25 Jul 2011, 22:40

Police Knew Gunman’s Name Before Arrest

British news anchor questions how authorities were aware of Breivik’s identity in advance

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, July 25, 2011
Police Knew Gunmans Name Before Arrest

Despite being portrayed by the media as inept due to the length of time it took them to reach the island of Utoeya, it has now emerged that police knew the name of gunman Anders Behring Breivik before they even arrested him, a startling admission that prompted one of Britain’s top news anchors to question how authorities were aware of the gunman’s identity in advance.

During his Channel 4 News broadcast on Friday evening, host Jon Snow asked “why police knew the killer’s name by the time they had arrived on the island,” reported the Telegraph live blog.

“He surrendered the moment police called his name 3 minutes after they arrived. What we don’t know is how the police knew the terrorist’s name before they arrested him,” said Snow, who is recognized as one of Britain’s most trusted news anchors, and cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”.

Snow also posed the question on his official Twitter page.

How authorities knew the gunman’s identity before his slaughter of young Norwegians on the island of Utoeya had even come to an end, and while the overwhelming speculation still centered around Islamic terrorists, is a mystery, as is the question of why the cops didn’t shoot Breivik immediately.

It’s also starkly inconsistent with the “incompetence” angle that’s been heavily pushed by the establishment media in explaining why it took over 90 minutes for police to reach the island, a gap that significantly contributed to Breivik being able to claim such a huge number of victims.

Some have speculated that Breivik may have had accomplices, and although police disregarded eyewitness accounts of multiple shooters on the island, during testimony at his court case today, Breivik admitted that he was merely one part of an organization that included at least two other “cells” who were planning future attacks.

“I believe that there were two people who were shooting,” survivor Alexander Stavdal told Norwegian VG, while other eyewitnesses reported hearing gunshots from “two different places on the island at the same time.”
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Re: News in General

Post  tgII on Mon 25 Jul 2011, 22:53

That is an astounding thought, Lada, did the Nazi International move
into Russia after WWII and take the form of the KGB under cover as
Anatoliy Golitsyn said it did?

I am just now reading through your post, Lada; and looking at links....

Does Putin speak German?

  • Linguist Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:58 pm GMT

    Merkel speaks Russian, but from what I saw on TV, her Russian is quite primitive though without mistakes, but she is able to communicate at least on primitive level. Rice also speaks Russian, but she makes mistakes and she's too shy to speak Russian probably...

    Putin speaks German quite good, he was working in Germany but as he said his German is getting worse...




I am just blown away by this insight...

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Re: News in General

Post  KapitanScarlet on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 01:08

Qsc - your well prepared and ready for any anticipated situations and their consequences Cool

There are certainly a few anomalys regarding the government reaction and attainment of the assasin, on murdochs channel , skynews reported they had 2 plus witnesses that had confirmed at least a second gunman was active, and they were waiting a live stream from these witnesses, that line of enquiry was then dropped from murdochs channel ?
Where did the assasin get the high powered auto weapon ?
And how keystone were the nor-police in reacting to this incident ?
Also in lieu of what the police must have witnessed as they landed on the island , all the dead bodies being slaughtered, surely one of them would have said xxxck it and put a bullet through his head regardless of orders

How relaxed does he look in this image and is there not a semblance of resemblance in his demeanour and super-coolness to the assange unit of wikileakfame



The man who has confessed to carrying out a bombing and shooting spree that left 76 people dead in Norway will be held for eight weeks, half of that in complete isolation, after a closed hearing in which he said his terror network had two other cells.

Anders Behring Breivik has confessed to the attacks but denied criminal responsibility, pleading not guilty on Monday to one of the deadliest modern mass killings in peacetime. He told the court he wanted to save Europe and send a strong signal, Judge Kim Heger said after a closed court hearing.

Breivik could tamper with evidence if released, and will be held for at least another two months without access to visitors, post or media, the judge said. Typically, the accused is brought to court every four weeks while prosecutors prepare their case, so a judge can approve his continued detention. Longer periods are not unusual in serious cases.

Breivik made clear in an online manifesto that he planned to turn his court appearance into theatre, preparing a speech for his appearance in court even before launching the attacks, then requesting an open hearing in which he would wear a uniform. Both of those requests were denied.

The suspect has said he staged the bombing and youth camp rampage as "marketing" for his manifesto calling for a revolution that would rid Europe of Muslims.

"The operation was not to kill as many people as possible but to give a strong signal that could not be misunderstood that as long as the Labour Party keeps driving its ideological lie and keeps deconstructing Norwegian culture and mass importing Muslims then they must assume responsibility for this treason," according to the English translation of Judge Heger's ruling that was read out after the hearing.

Breivik alluded to two other "cells" of his network - which he imagines as a new Knights Templar, the medieval cabal of crusaders who protected Christian pilgrims in the Holy Land. At one point, his manifesto briefly referred to an intention to contact two other cells, but no details were given.

The original death toll had been put at 93, but police said figures for the youth club camp shootings had been reduced to 68 from 86. They added that the toll in the bomb blast in Oslo had gone up to eight, from seven, bringing the total for both attacks to 76.

Mein Freund - Sie Haben sicherlich denke nicht, dass im jetzt verruckt Shocked Twisted Evil Very Happy
But what i was suggesting was that in view of the assasin declaring that in 100 years time, people would look back at what hed done and see him as a hero , this was a case of him carrying out actions in the present with reference to a projected future time reflection on them
And the masonic reference being that his ability to destroy so many lives for a political purpose with absolutely no Compassion at all might require a certain type of mind conditioning which may have been carried out by ritual , the masonics carry out ritual in relation to altering mindset
iM not suggesting that all masonic ritual is evil, but that as he is a member of masons, he is someone whom willfully puts himself forward for public ritual which is a very powerful mind adjuster for good or for evil acts
The masons are officially a benevolent society but not to say that certain devious influences are hovering in the masonic shadows and not performing the doctrine as it may have been intended in the brotherly love and respect to all beings
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Re: News in General

Post  tgII on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 01:47

On our blog a chapter was written (two weeks ago) prior to Oslo
saying that a 'false flag' would be moved to Oslo from Germany - that
indeed is what has happened here.

What are the dynamics at work here? It is understood that violence
alters the nervous system in a huge way opening up the brain and
spine to effects not yet understood by the rest of us...this was an
intensely hideous and incredibly violent slaughter
...



I can't help but consider the parallels...

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Post  seraphim on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 02:40

It is understood that violence
alters the nervous system in a huge way opening up the brain and
spine to effects not yet understood by the rest of us.
TgII, this is a complete understatement and it's about time folks seriously looked into this. This is so very important to look into. And it's made to be ignored for a good reason, but if folks understood or were actually allowed to find all that makes up their mind and behaviors, then they would be less susceptible to mind control, which apparently so many are.
Folks would be able to stop their destructive behaviors and also notice it in others. Others who may be sleepers, like the two men above. I'm not into politics but when I saw the picture, I thought it was Assange who went on a killing spree. What a mind trick.

Loud and clear: seriously one must realize these key mechanisms in themselves before they can even move on, and get out of this animal like control system and tricks on the mind. We are so very open to everything and take it all in, so we don't even know who we are. Amazing how we just go with the flow of the manipulating hands. This has crippled folks so nothing ever changes or nothing for the better, as one can see in society for so long.
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Post  Sputnik on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 03:22

@Kapis, thanks for explaining to me your perspective, i didn't understand it at first.

@TG..quite a few people kinda getting the same association.

Does Berwick equal Breivik? Maybe it's interesting to research his "bloodline"..

I 'volunteered' for Wikileaks to see what it's all about and I can say..that Assange must be a great fan of Ron L Hubbard...at least he seems to have modelled his org after scientology in regards of it's structure. He loves to be a cult leader. What I noticed is that both men have had bad relationships to their fathers..and both seem to love the attention they are getting from the media. Maybe they went through disassociation via trauma-based mind control programs? When I sneaked into WL...this is what I have been told...never to ask any other volunteer questions about Assange, never to ask for any information from other volunteers or contact them myself but to go to my 'handler'..LOL, my 'handler' was a retard...he makes money from clicks on his WL websites..he is a miserable plonker...by now I almost suspect that Wikileaks op has fulfilled it's mission and they let it drive itself against the wall....

My impression is that Assange and Breivik are not only physically similar, they both have properbly been hatched under the same new agey aryan cult haze dome. Assange always claimed that he has no religious or political orientation..but his "public officer"..the dude whose name I know and who was supposed to give me orders (LOL)...censors anything that mentions Zionism or Israel....that handler dude for the online volunteers is a english guy who lives in Frankurt a. Main, Germany. What attracts young people to volunteer for WL is the atmosphere of spy chique clichee and the air of excitement. They just started to recruit even children proteges..the newst one in the basket is a serbian boy of 14 whose interests are NATO and American Presidents (not your typical serbian kid) he calls himself a 'human rights activist'..but when asked for what group of people he interests himself he seems to not know that a human rights activist usually supports the right of some specific underpreviliged group...however in his very professional short video introduction he has a short scene in which the camera catches a book on his shelf titled "the freemasons"...and that kinda fits in here quite well..I suspect Assange to be a mark master mason. But hiring children is a bit icky me thinks...the average age used to be 20, but now their forum has basically turned into a kindergarten...ok, I hope I didn't bore you too much with my observations...

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Post  Sputnik on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 03:55

On our blog a chapter was written (two weeks ago) prior to Oslo
saying that a 'false flag' would be moved to Oslo from Germany - that
indeed is what has happened here.

Yes...I remember this, I posted about it here:
http://darythymdivine.forumotion.net/t33p555-political-news-or-comments#7648

German attorney Torsten van Geest releases an English summary and a translation of his legal activities against Chancellor Merkel on the possible nuclear Terror Attack in Berlin Olympia stadium Women`s World Cup 2011 Soccer, June 26, 2011

I guess that attorney put it "on the record" to make the gubernment fully liable for not acting on the intell they had in advance.

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Post  Sputnik on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 05:21

I checked out Breiviks father connection...

His biological father was a diplomat posted to London and Paris and who remarried after his birth, while his mother married a soldier who became his stepfather.

He wrote that his biological father and his wife had asked for custody but were prevented by the Norwegian courts.

His "good relationship" to his stepfather ended when he was 15.

Now it would be interesting to know who his "ersatz-ersatz-father-figure" was
after which he role-modelled himself......hmmm scratch

breiviks money/property worth something:
http://skattelister.no/skatt/profil/anders-behring-breivik-33747942/


Breiviks company register:
http://www.proff.no/selskap////994089269

Here is some interesting detail...please read the denial of service notice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps2GWengu1o&feature=share

That was Breivik's video. It has been removed due to "copy-right" violations by Funcom.
But that is...rather odd as there is no material from Funcom in Breiviks clip.

The CEO of funcom is a Mason
http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/prosjekt/frimurer/losjer/svanen/medlem/89718

Funcom is the producer of the new game The Secret World which happens to be about
Secret Orders and Illuminati type story: http://www.thesecretworld.com/
There are 3 categories you can chose to play: Templars, Illuminati and Dragon!

So the obvious question is what kind of connection does Funcom and Trond Arne Aas have with Anders Breivik the Oslo Killer?

Breiviks supposed video can still be seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/verify_controversy?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DPxFO0UGVEBk





He got married in Hawaii? Shocked
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Re: News in General

Post  Sputnik on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 07:25

...second glimpse on my theory...

Remember the sinking of the Kursk?

The USS Memphis docked on in Norway and was repaired...but USA claimed it was a long scheduled trip Cool

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=004D9W

Russia warns of war within a decade over Arctic oil and gas riches:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6283130.ece


The United States, Norway, Canada and Denmark are challenging Russia’s claim to a section of the Arctic shelf, the size of Western Europe, which is believed to contain billions of tonnes of oil and gas.

“In a competition for resources it cannot be ruled out that military force could be used to resolve emerging problems that would destroy the balance of forces near the borders of Russia and her allies.”

Maybe just a weird co-incidence but 2 Days before the Oslo massacre Vladimir Putin and Jens Stoltenberg discussed by phone some 'urgent issues':

http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=151930

And lo and behold, some cyberhackers seriously compromised the Norwegian military:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/20/norway_military_computer_attack/

That was just two month ago.. scratch

BTW, Norway has the BIGGEST sovereign wealth fund of all in Europe...and the 4th largest in the world
(it's estimated to total $1.5 Trillion) Shocked

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Government_Pension_Fund_of_Norway

Holy shit...they could basically BUY GERMANY and the EU...if they wanted to (make a bad deal), LOL

Oh I bet they have BIG enemies too... Twisted Evil

Imagine the EU could sack Norway...they would actually be able to safe their idiotic currency...

And Russia would just be too glad to retaliate, err, 'help out' the EU as they seem to hate the
Norwegians for being 'in their way' of their national interests + maybe some other 'past incidences'..


Libya was the biggest heist of the century...check this, the fucking german foreign minister today said that germany will lend Libya some 500 million Euro's...to the "rebels"..until Libya's FROZEN ASSETS WHICH ARE GIGANTIC will be ...err, un-frozen...LMAO!!! I bet Libya was robbed naked for good...
but to me it looks as if Norway and Switzerland are now the NEXT TOP TARGETS! Suspect

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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 08:46

Russia fished out a lot of its Arctic waters. They had also been caught several times trespassing into Norwegian waters to fish. About two years ago, Norway actually gave Russia some of its sea area that is still fish abundant. In my opinion it was a good political move to make good relations with Russia.
So maybe Jens and Vlad were talking about how good the caviar is during their lunch hour.

Norway to Buy Four F-35 Jet Fighters

The political opposition has reluctantly given the Government the go-ahead to purchase four F-35 fighter bombers to be used for training purposes. However, the total cost of the F-35 program is still uncertain.

“A joint opposition supports the purchase, but we are very critical to the way the Government has handled this,” says Dagfinn Høybråten, parliamentary leader of the Christian Democrats (KrF).

Norway is to purchase a total of 56 military aircraft F-35 from the US manufacturer Lockheed Martin. The Government has insisted that it is necessary to buy four planes already now, in order to begin training of pilots and support personnel.

“The aircraft deal is completely out of control. No one knows how much the total cost of the 56 aircraft will be”, says the right wing Progress Party's spokesman for defence, Peter N. Myhre.


(EDITOR’S NOTE: The SV Socialist Left Party, a member of Norway’s governing coalition, said it will formal requested an audit of the JSF/F-35 acquisition project – the largest public purchase in Norwegian history - by the country’s auditor-general.
The opposition Progress Party today (June 17) said it wants Parliament to direct the Auditor General to "conduct a separate investigation of the procurement process and the basis for the choice of the JSF.")

It's an episode of the The Beverly Hillbillies with jet fighters.
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Post  Sputnik on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 11:25

"Tell me who your enemy is and I will tell you who you are"

Norway is the natural enemy of Russia for more than one reason.

NATO must make it clear to Russia that its use of power is unacceptable, says Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere ahead of Tuesday's NATO summit on the Russia-Georgia conflict.

NATO must issue a clear message stating that the use of power we have seen on another nation's territory is unacceptable, Gahr Stoere says.
- Also the fact that over several days there has been talk of pulling back without any sign of doing so, is beeing closely by Russia's neighbours, the Norwegian Foreign Minister says.

The Swedish Prime Minister on Monday announced that his government has cancelled all joint military training with Russia. He also said that all military exchange visits between the two countries have been put on ice.


Putin doesn't like to be told by 'old money' what he can do and what not...the EU is compliant..so this puts outsider Norway in a awkward position within NATO...

Here is another hint...

Not so long ago Norway has offered the EU a joint plan to bulit a extensive renewable energy plant. Several European countries wanted to use Norwegian reservoirs for power storage....

But then all of a sudden the idea was discarted...rather quikly...

Hey I wonder why.....the idea was pretty good and Switzerland has the technology already in use, and it literally works wonders.....

So why would the EU pass such a friendly offer? because Norway isn't european enough..or because Russia has too much influence on the EU...however...I am just speculating...
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 12:32

Centralisation of Energy Management and Anti Terror policys is Vital to certain politicians and corporations for control and profits

The assasins laywer just gave a press conference imlying his client is insane due to the actions he undertook , but the assasin declares he is sane and has started a new european revolution
He has stated there are 2 cells in norway and more in other countries
He also apologised for the killings but said they were necessary
He was completly surprised to have survived , he never expected to even get to the island thinking the polis would have got him long before , also was surprised how long he was allowed to shoot on the island

Authorities say trial was kept private in case he gave signals to other cells

No one knows for sure why the norwegian authorities never allowed the police to use a helicopter or why they took so long to react, apparently, news media teams were hovering over the island filming the assasin shooting before the polis arrived Question

He planned it for many years
He took certain drugs before the assasinations
He believes in 60 years the war will be won
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 12:42

Here is another interesting piece of news...

June 2011
Norwegian news outlets reported that Defense Security Service (Forsvarets sikkerhetstjeneste [FOST]) had conducted illegal surveillance against the prime minister’s office and other government offices.

Kripos, a division of the Norwegian Ministry of Justice and the Police, did a police search of the Norwegian Ministry of Defence's top-secret intelligence agency’s computer equipment in Jørstadmoen, after a request by the Ministry of Defense.

While reaming confident that the case will be investigated in a correct way, Norwegian Prime minister Jens Stoltenberg stated to Aftenposten late Wednesday that "it’s important that the police now find out what actually has happened."

Verdens Gang reported that to their knowledge, the surveillance happened in connection with FOST, having the responsibility for the computer security of key personnel within the prime minister's office and other government offices. For practical reasons this persons have been connected to the military secure lines. Sources with insight to the surveillance process explained to Aftenposten that when a possible breach of computer security is detected its protocol that the person be given a notice that he may be in process off or already have broken the security rules. A person, possible within the Prime minister’s office has most likely received such a note and has reacted to the fact that the computer traffic had been under surveillance.

Vice admiral Jan Eirik Finseth told Verdens Gang that the Defense security agency's computer security section, reported that computer communication lines had been put under surveillance by military communications lines. Vice admiral Finseth stated to Verdens Gang that "the circumstances is of such a nature that the police [were] asked to investigate if anything of this may be illegal."

When Wikinews contacted, State attorney Petter Mandt, who leads the investigation, we received confirmation that a search in Jørstadmoen took place, but would not comment on what was confiscated, if anything. Mand also stated that they would not comment on any specifics or give any details on the investigation, but explained that for use of a police search there has to be more than 50% probable suspicion that something illegal may have happened. When asked if suspicion was that the prime minister’s office had been put under illegal surveillance, he Mandt refused to comment and stated that they will not comment on whom or how many individuals are involved.

Defense political spoke person for Socialistic left (Sv) Bjørn Jacobsen, told Wikinews that "it’s important to find out what, if anything has happened," but that "it’s shocking that there even exist[s] a reason for a police search." When asked what will happen if anything illegal is found to have took place, Jacobsen responded by pointing out that in this case the prosecutors will have to decide on what to do next, but stated that "parliament will have to see if the law and regulations ha[ve] to be changed. It’s important to stop an eventual bad culture before it sticks to the walls."

This is the second investigation of illegal government surveillance in Norway since the Lund commissions report uncovered illegal surveillance of communist, socialist and other persons, which the Norwegian Police Security Service deemed to be dangerous.

Wikinews was unable to get any comments from the Norwegian Military Defense when contacted.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 12:50

The police were not prepared despite the fact that they were running terror drills just days before the attack.

There was no helicopter with a large capacity available that could move a SWAT team out to the island.
And any helicopter that was large enough was too far away and would have taken longer.

The first boat the boarded could not take the capacity and began to take on water, so they had to turn around and get a bigger boat....wasting loads of response time.
That scene would be valuable for youtube.
I could see it in my mind's eye, the cops driving over snacking on cheese sandwiches and drinking coffee not knowing what they were going to encounter next as the boat is sinking under their weight. And some idiot says..."Oh...we need to turn around and get a bigger boat....right after we finish our coffee."

Even though Norway is made up of thousands of inhabited islands, waterways, fjords, mountains, vast forested areas and is seventy percent uninhabited due to the ruggedness and rawness of the terrain, they had no resources to assist regarding a terrorist attack located quite close to the capital. Sure the Oslo bomb going off two hours earlier distracted personnel, even if the bomb had not gone off...the police still would not have addressed the shooting any sooner.

This is an example of typical Norwegian service in any sector not just police and security. They can be really...quite stupid.
Total bungles.

But the silver lining is that this bungling and an increase in the domestic police state will warrant a much larger budget to get that chopper and bigger boat. Not to mention all the surveillance needed upon its own citizenry. As with the U.S. and its Homeland Security...prepared to be safe while enslaved.
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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 26 Jul 2011, 13:06

Here is recent news on an older story...

...read this link first to find out about the history of the story...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_French_and_Tjostolv_Moland

Two Norwegians sentenced to death in DR Congo

Thursday, June 10, 2010

Two former Norwegian soldiers have been sentenced to death in the Democratic Republic of Congo for the third time, having been accused of spying and murder.

Joshua French and Tjostolv Moland were originally sentenced in September 2009, but lost their appeal in December of the same year. The latest trial was held in April after the Congolese Military High Court overturned the original sentences and ordered a retrial. The pair are reportedly intending to appeal their sentence once again.

The pair have been accused of murdering Abedi Kasongo while they were travelling from Uganda to the DR Congo on motorcycles. When their bikes broke down, they hired Kasongo to drive them back to Uganda. The pair claim that during the journey they were ambushed by jungle rebels and Kasongo was killed. Because the former soldiers were carrying Norwegian military identification they were also accused of spying.

One of the accused holds dual Norwegian-British citizenship. UK-based charity Reprieve condemned the actions of the Congo courts. A spokesperson said that "Each time the military prosecution changes their theory, the witnesses all obligingly change their story. It is now clear why the DRC's own constitution forbids the military from administering justice."

Both suspects continue to defend their innocence, and Britain and Norway both expressed their opposition to the sentence. A Norwegian spokesperson said that "Norway is a strong opponent against the death penalty, and we have been communicating this stance to the relevant authorities. We have received assurances from the authorities that the death sentence won't be carried out and we hold the authorities responsible for the well being of these two." A spokesperson for Britain's Foreign Office said that "We will be doing everything we properly can to support him in the coming weeks and months. We are committed to supporting any British national who faces the death penalty and our prime concern in this case is to ensure that no execution is carried out."

Interesting seeing how Norway does not allow dual citizenship.

Two Norwegian ex-soldiers have been sentenced to death for a second time in Democratic Republic of the Congo by a military tribunal.

Joshua French, 28, who has dual citizenship with Britain and briefly served in the British army, and Tjostolv Moland, 29, were originally found guilty of murder and espionage by a Congolese court last year.

The men, who had been working as private military contractors in other countries and were operating in Congo under murky circumstances, denied shooting dead their driver Abedi Kasongo in May 2009. They claimed bandits killed him.

During the first trial the court also fined Norway $60m (£41m), alleging that the Norwegian men were spies.

The death sentences were upheld on appeal, but in April a military court in the capital Kinshasa overturned the convictions for technical reasons and ordered a retrial with fresh judges.

That took place in the north-eastern city of Kisangani, near where Kasongo was killed. Colonel Pierre Agabu, the prosecutor, said today that French and Moland had again been sentenced to death for murder, attempted murder, criminal association and spying.

The original fine, which was calculated to represent one dollar per Congolese citizen, was also upheld, with the Norwegian government jointly liable. A payment of $4.5m (£3m) was due to Kasongo's widow and his father, the court ruled, with a further $100,000 (£68,000) payable to the Kisangani drivers' association.

French and Moland, who had tried to establish a security company in Uganda early in 2009, crossed the border on motorcycles into eastern Congo, a highly unstable part of the country, in April that year.

Two weeks later Kasongo, who had been hired as their driver, was found dead beside a road. The Norwegians, who fled the scene – fearing for their lives, they said – were arrested separately several days later.

In the original trial, prosecutors claimed that French and Moland were carrying military ID cards at the time of their arrest. They produced a photograph allegedly taken by French that showed Moland grinning widely as he washed blood from Kasongo's Toyota Landcruiser on the day he was killed.

British legal charity Reprieve today described the court proceedings as a "show trial" and alleged the prosecution witnesses were bribed with large sums of money.

"This farce of a trial would be comical if the stakes weren't so tragically high," said Reprieve campaigner Tineke Harris. "Each time the military prosecution changes their theory, the witnesses all obligingly change their story. It is now clear why the DRC's own constitution forbids the military from administering justice."

The case has attracted huge media coverage in Norway and strong criticism of Congo from the Norwegian government. Norway says the men have had no ties to it since 2007 when they served in the elite Telemark battalion.

The Foreign Office said it was disappointed at the latest verdict and would work to ensure the execution was not carried out. In recent years most death sentences issued in Congo have been commuted to life imprisonment.

Reprieve said Moland had been extremely ill in jail after contracting celebral malaria and was delusional during the first trial and appeal. It said French, who had a British father and spent part of his childhood in Margate, was forced to sign a confession after being beaten.
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Gunman Conspired With “Business and Political Leaders” Before Massacre

Breivik marched with heavily MI5-infiltrated English Defence League in London

Paul Joseph Watson
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Tuesday, July 26, 2011
Gunman Conspired With Business and Political Leaders Before Massacre

Anders Behring Breivik said he conspired with “business and political leaders” in London years before he set about planning last week’s massacre, an intruiging connection given the fact that the gunman’s manifesto is datelined “London 2011, suggesting a clear connection to the capital as evidence emerges of a wider plot.

“In the manuscript Breivik describes his “mentor” as an Englishman he identifies as “Richard”, and says his journey into violent extremism began at a small meeting in London in 2002 where a group of like-minded extremists met to “reform” the Knights Templar Europe, a military group whose purpose was “to seize political and military control of western European countries and implement a cultural conservative political agenda,” reports the Guardian.

“In his manifesto Breivik said the gathering in London was “not a stereotypical ‘rightwing’ meeting full of underprivileged, racist skinheads with a short temper”. Instead, he claimed those present were successful entrepreneurs, “business or political leaders, some with families, most Christian conservatives, but also some agnostics and even atheists”.

The gunman said that the participants of the meeting came from all over Europe and that he was first put into contact with them by a “Serbian crusader commander”.

Breivik’s conenctions with London – he lived there as a child when his father was working at the Norwegian embassy – are clearly a cornerstone of his plot. Indeed, as Mark Steyn writes for the National Review Online, the gunman’s manifesto is largely concerned with Britain and America. “The entire document is strangely anglocentric – in among the citations of NR and The Washington Times, there’s not a lot about Norway.”

The manifesto, signed by the killer as “Andrew Berwick” (an anglicised version of his name), is datelined “London, 2011,” clearly indicating Breivik was in the English capital before his rampage, although the media have asserted otherwise without expalining why Breivik would deliberately place such an error in his own screed.

It is now being reported that Breivik was in London as recently as last year, when he took part in an English Defence League march. The EDL is a far-right group that largely comprises of former football hooligans. Its organization is shabby and the group has attracted an odious reputation of being run by violent, drunk and racist thugs. The group’s unpopularity is habitually exploited by the British establishment to demonize legitimate criticism of mass immigration policies as extremist and racist.

The group is routinely labeled “neo-nazi” by the mainstream media yet is staunchly pro-Israel and has displayed Israeli flags at its protests. The EDL routinely clashes with pro-Muslim groups, scenes that are given generous press coverage in order to push “clash of civilization” rhetoric and keep the British people at each other’s throats, enabling the government to engage in “divide and conquer” tactics by manipulating the public perception of both groups.

Since the EDL is mostly made up of gangs of football hooligans, which have been completely infiltrated by British authorities, many have speculated that the English Defence League is being steered and controlled by MI5 and Special Branch.

We now know that Norwegian intelligence was aware of Breivik and had included his name on a terrorism watchlist back in March after the gunman purchased large amounts of fertiliser from an online shop in Poland. This wasn’t a sprawling database with hundreds of thousands of names amongst which Breivik’s could have been lost, it contained just 60 individuals.

The list was passed to the Police Security Service (PST) by Norwegian Customs, which might explain why police knew Breivik’s name before they arrested him on the island of Utoeya, even as the global media was all but certain that the attacks were the work of Al-Qaeda Muslims.

Breivik’s financial fortunes certainly took a turn for the better in 2006. According to his tax filings, which are publicly available on the Internet for all Norwegian citizens (Breivik’s have since been deleted but the cache remains), the gunman went from making virtually nothing to an income of over 600,000 krona (roughly $116,000 dollars) from 2006-2007.

As more details emerge about Breivik’s activities, his connections with London and his assertion that he was merely one of at least three “cells,” it’s obvious that a wider plot involving more people was responsible for last week’s carnage. This dovetails with reports from eyewitnesses who said they heard gunshots coming from two different parts of the island and saw another gunman with dark hair. Whether or not an incident that took place in south west Norway on Saturday night, in which a man was shot in the head by two men wearing military uniforms, is connected to the attacks remains to be seen.

However, Norwegian authorities and the establishment media are actively discouraging the possibility of a wider plot by focusing solely on Breivik and largely disregarding ample evidence of others being involved, thereby ensuring the “business and political leaders” the gunman said he conspired with remain under the radar.
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