2012

[Bobdog]

[googlevideo]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2539417967594130510#[/googlevideo]

Lada kindly advised me that the above google vid link I posted has been removed.

I ripped the vid from google, but I cannot upload it to my youtube or dailymotion account because of the length limitations (15 and 20 minutes respectively). But I found it already uploaded in 10 minute segments on youtube.

The following vids are only the first three (of 9) that are essentially the same as the original vid link I posted above, except that the 2012 Olympic logo has been removed from the vids for copyright infringement. If you want to view the entire Rik Clay interview, the remaining 6 vids can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/theswoonfactor

[Sputnik]

Thanks for posting Bobdog, I really liked this interview about Rick Clay's research. He was one of the few people who actually tried to put the esoteric agenda into a feasable and comprehensible format to expose the intended purpose of the mystery religion (very unlike GATEKEEPER Maxwell Jordan, who just never seems to be "able" to tell anything STRAIGHT UP, just like when he gave that interview at Project Camelot and WASN'T answering the question put forth to him of WHY we should pay attention to the "Rising Sun" symbol and what it actually implies...and instead kept talking about how many important people he knows in Hollywood and how much they consult him).

[Sputnik]

Concerning Clay's comment on the "Royal hologram"

check out His Royal Hologram Prince Charles:

http://www.scribemedia.org/2008/01/31/royal-hologram/

Also go to the end of the video and see the turd vanish into thin air without leaving a trace of carbondioxcide...tadaa!

[Bobdog]

Irony - Thanks for the liink. Haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but I certainly will.

I was impressed with Rik Clay's straightforward approach as well and his sudden death and removal of his blog has assassination written all over it. I can't even find any cause of death released to the public anywhere. A real tragedy.

Funny you should mention Jordan Maxwell. Just last night I finished listening to an interview with him on www.veritasshow.com

The series of unfortunate events which happened to him and his current state of failing health may offer some understanding for why he is the way he is. He sounds like a nervous wreck. His emotions are freyed and he sounds tired of carrying his torch.

During the interview, he was asked who the stock-holders of the Corporation of the United States were. Maxwell said he knew who they were, that there were 9 of them, but that he would not give up their names. He's been around a long time, maybe its because he knows when to keep his mouth shut. Rik Clay wasn't on the scene but for a year and they already took him out. Incidentally, I wonder if the 9 that Maxwell talks about is the same 9 that Peter Lavenda talks about.

I have empathy for Maxwell because it sounds like his career is finally getting the best of him and while he seems to dance around the issues at times, he's certainly done a lot more than I have and sacrificed a lot more than I have to inform the public. I try to take what I can from him and forget about the rest of it.

He sounds like a man whose spirit is broken. I counted at least 10 times in the three hour interview where he reminded everyone that he had 48 years of experience researching his subjects. Then about 15 times he unintentionally insults his audience saying things like, "people are stupid, get a brain, they'd rather watch basketball on TV than read a book."

I suspect he's become disenchanted because his life's work hasn't impacted enough people to turn the tides of majority's ignorance. And I'm sure there's some ego involved there as well. Deep down, he probably wanted to go down in history as the man who saved everyone from the NWO. I've had such thoughts myself. I wonder who hasn't when you consider that every action hero movie for the last two decades portrays ONE MAN as the sole protagonist against a world of of arch enemies.

They write these movie scripts using a formula and just change names, places, dates and circumstances. Every story line is the same. No wonder people don't unite to fight anything. They're all dreaming of being ONE MAN action heroes.

With all the historical associations and inferences between UFO's and the Vatican, I wouldn't be surprised at all to find the Vatican behind this entire alien hoax. Afterall, they're the ones behind the original religious hoax, manipulating information against populations who couldn't read throughout the dark ages. It seems like they're setting the stage for something like what Rik Clay talks about. More and more the Vatican is establishing it's position to embrace UFO's.

Here's more on the Olympics:

http://www.justinstephens.blogspot.com/

'XXX' Explained - Olympics, Porn and The Proof

Today a new realisation hit me, with regard to the significance and true meaning behind the sequence of letters 'XXX'.

As most will be aware, 'XXX' permeates our lives in a multitude of ways:

* The London 2012 Olympic Games (XXX Olympiad)
* Pornography
* Kisses on a letter, e-mail or greetings card
* 'Britain's Got Talent' or 'America's Got Talent' TV Show (for the few who still watch TV!)
* In the cinema (xXx with Vin Diesel)
* A certain someone's birthday in 2012

Imagine for a moment, that when you've been showing respect, releasing emotion and energy to any of the above 'XXX' sequences, you have been feeding the biggest occult agenda known to man. An agenda which will bring about the spiritual ascen'sion' of the world under a 'false messiah' known as the 'Son Of God'.

Now imagine for a moment, it's all true...


The 'X' Olympics

It is my belief that the 2012 London Olympic Games (XXX Olympiad) are going to witness a pre-planned 'alien visitation' alongside the anointment of an 'end times' messiah.

Our focus here is the letter 'X', so let's take a look at two previous Olympic games:


XX Olympiad - The Munich Summer Olympics of 1972


To quote an earlier article of mine:


The 1972 Munich Olympics were host to the first 'official' global terrorist attack, in which 11 Israelis were killed by Black September (the 9th month - 9/11), a group with ties to Yasser Arafat’s Fatah organization. The Olympics were host to 121 countries:

1234321 = 11:11 x 11:11
121 countries = 11:11
11 fatalities



The emblem of the games was a blue solar logo (the "Bright Sun"). I will be covering the significance of the colour blue shortly.

X Olympiad - The Los Angeles (The Angels) Summer Olympics of 1932




The 1932 Summer Olympics, officially known as the Games of the X Olympiad, were celebrated in 1932 in Los Angeles, California, United States. No other cities made a bid to host these Olympics. Held during the worldwide Great Depression, many nations and athletes were unable to pay for the trip to Los Angeles. Fewer than half the number of participants from the 1928 Summer Olympics in Amsterdam competed in 1932.

The Games of the X Olympiad were also the first to use the victory podium (that's right, a pyramid):

What does all of this mean?

As you can see, the X and XX Olympiads both witnessed remarkable world events, unrivalled by any other Olympic Games.

The 1932 games were held in the midst of the worldwide 'Great Depression', whilst the 1972 games gave a stage for the world's first dose of 'global terror'.

Does it seem so unrealistic, that the XXX Olympiad may have a surprise in store?

XXX - Unveiled

The letter X is more significant than you think.

First of all, you need to understand that the characters of the English alphabet are more than just letters. They are symbols with meaning, sometimes multiple meanings - much like the Egyptian hieroglyphs. They are talismans.

X is the 24th letter of the English alphabet. 2+4/2+4/2+4 = 666. XXX can be seen to represent the number of the beast.

The letter X originated from a letter in the Greek alphabet known as 'Chi'

'Chi' is the 22nd letter of the Greek alphabet - that's 11:11 for any of you who've been following.

The Spirit Of X or 'Chi'

'Chi' or 'X' were the origins of the Chinese word 'Qi' meaning 'life force' or 'energy flow'. 'Chi' was also the origins of the Japanese word 'Ki', as in 'Reiki'. 'Chi' also features in 'Tai Chi'.

As you can see, the letter X or 'Chi' is very much about 'spirit'.


X - The Mother Goddess, Isis


"In Plato's Timaeus, it is explained that the two bands which form the soul of the world cross each other like the letter Χ."



Plato, an ancient Greek esoteric philosopher (important to remember, considering who we're dealing with) associates the letter X with the 'soul of the world'. 'Soul of the world' in Latin becomes 'Anima mundi'. Both of these terms are identified with 'Gaia'.

Gaia can be defined as:



"A complex entity involving the Earth's biosphere, atmosphere, oceans, and soil; the totality constituting a feedback or cybernetic system which seeks an optimal physical and chemical environment for life on this planet."


Gaia is the 'Mother Goddess', who can be identified as Isis - the mother figure of the Egyptian trinity.


X - The 'Son Of God', Horus


"Chi or X is often used to abbreviate the name Christ, as in the holiday Christmas (Xmas)."



Jesus Christ, the 'Son Of God' can be attributed to the sun, much like Horus - the son figure of the Egyptian trinity.

X - The Father



"A person normally has one pair of sex chromosomes in each cell. Females have two X chromosomes, while males have one X and one Y chromosome."


A father has one X chromosome. The father can be identified with 'Our father who art in heaven' or Osiris - the father figure in the Egyptian trinity.

XXX - The Trinity

As you may have realised, this becomes all too easy now. XXX simply means the father, the son and the mother or should we say the trinity!

If you've listened to Rik Clays recent Red Ice Creations Radio interview, you'll already know that he believes the 2012 Olympic Games are going to witness the implementation of the 'trinity for a new age', and here you have it - encoded in the very letters of the games themselves.

To reiterate, X is far more than just a letter...

XXX and the occult

Imagine your body is a biological computer, and that your 5 senses are filters. If you were to remove these filters, you would be bombarded by an all engrossing white light - a whole array of different energies, which you cannot perceive under normal conditions.

When you show emotion to a symbol, an object, a person, your lover - you are generating frequencies of energy which cannot be perceived through your 5 senses.

Now imagine, that an 'intelligence' which resides outside of your 5 senses, in another dimension of reality perhaps, is capturing that energy for itself - for its own personal gain.

The occult operates in co-ordinance with this 'intelligence'.

The letters 'XXX' have been empowered as an occult symbol representing the trinity. If you have no awareness of the occult meaning behind 'XXX', and you go on to show it emotion, you are feeding this symbol with the energy (from outside of your 5 sense reality) that it desires.

You are feeding the trinity, or even closer - a trinity event, at the 2012 London Olympics.




'The truth is always hidden in plain sight'


xxx

So here you have it...

XXX pornography (single men around the world, giving away their every energy to the computer screen, the most potent energy of all!)

Here's Amsterdam's Coat Of Arms (a city founded upon its red light district) for good measure:

XXX the movie (shown in cinemas around the globe, designed to excite the audience.)

Britain's (America's) Got Talent - 3 judges (2 men, 1 woman - father, son and mother - the trinity) sat in front of a live TV audience, beaming into homes around the world via the televi'sion' set. Laughter, tears, panic, applause... a range of emotions feeding yet more energy unto the symbol 'XXX'.

And finally... something that we're all guilty of doing. We don't even know why we do it, only that it's drilled into us from a young age:

We all sign our greetings cards and emails with 'kiss kiss kiss' - 'XXX'. As previously mentioned, X originates from the Greek letter, 'Chi' which in Japanese is 'Ki'. The word 'Ki'ss can be broken down into 'Ki' or 'spirit' accompanied by SS. You could view this as two snakes, much like the structure of our DNA.

4 More Years And Counting...

'XXX' symbolises the trinity, much like the early Egyptian creation trinity of Osiris, Isis and Horus.

We, the world, 'consciousness', have been feeding a 'trinity event', blissfully unaware for over a hundred years. I believe that this event is going to take place at the 2012 London Olympics, the XXX Olympiad.

So this leads to the question... who are the members of this 'new trinity'? Who plays Osiris, the role of 'Father'? Who plays Isis, the role of 'Mother'?

Who plays Horus, the 'Son', the 'end game' messiah for a 'New World Order Of The Ages'?

His birthday is on the 21st June, the summer solstice - the sun of the most high.

In the year 2012, he will be 30 years old = 'XXX'.

His name is Prince William....

[Sputnik]

I try to take what I can from him and forget about the rest of it.

That's a good attitude but does it work? What if you end up hocussed...I can't detect Russel Pine aka Jordan Maxwell to be a genuine "Dissident". I am generally very critical towards Masons...(and Jesuits)....have you ever experienced at first hand any sort of reprisals
carried out by Freemasons using masonic influence against non-Freemasons or anti-Freemasons?

With all the historical associations and inferences between UFO's and the Vatican, I wouldn't be surprised at all to find the Vatican behind this entire alien hoax. Afterall, they're the ones behind the original religious hoax, manipulating information against populations who couldn't read throughout the dark ages. It seems like they're setting the stage for something like what Rik Clay talks about. More and more the Vatican is establishing it's position to embrace UFO's.

Anything it takes to keep people down on their knees. The Roman Empire is famous for changing it's "storyline" even if it means to hijack somebody elses Messiah... Vatican City is the spiritual center of the west, City of London is the financial center and Washington DC is or was the political center of the western elitist freakshow. I guess there are some changes planned for the next round of bamboozlement.

[seraphim]

I haven't had a chance to hear Rik Clay yet, I was lucky this time, I was on the verge of just barely understanding his accent.
I wouldn't be surprised if the London Olympics is on some sacred ground.
Some great coincidence happened! Isis was mentioned around the 12 minute mark and I was thinking s I believe in Egyptian means they are talking of the feminine. And then I was thinking of what I might be, and then I thought, Isis must represent the all seeing eye, and then right after I thought that, Rik Clay said the same exact thing!
I'll have to finish the video. And I'm grateful for his work, may his soul be resting in peace.

I had the impression too that Maxwell is upset or fed up. He's been through a lot it seems. I like to read what his debunkers put out and then do research on them to find out if they are really just full of it.
So with this video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g4yv6bIc4I
The debunker says he can't find any reference anywhere to arga noa except in jorden's work. And as his mind made some connections miraculously, and quite ignorantly thinking Blavatsky would say the same thing and found this Nuah is Noah, floating on the waters in his ark; the latter being the emblem of the argha, or moon, the feminine principle; Noah is the Spirit falling into matter. We find him as soon as he descends upon the earth, planting a vinyard, drinking the wine and getting drunk on it, i.e. the pure spirit
becomes intoxicated as soon as it is finally imprisoned in matter. and that's all she said he claims. So if the debunker can go beyond Hebrew and back further he will find that Argha Noa has been mentioned already and has nothing to do with Maxwell or Blavatsky making up that word.

If you google the word, it goes back to the egyptians saying what Maxwell said, he did not make it up. But Blavatsky's quote has different sources unlike the debunker, believing like an imbecile would, that Maxwell copied her work. The ark is a boat shape vessel in the waters. And argha represents the yoni in Hindu mythology. And that could flood too!
The symbol is practically the same for the different for the different meanings. And then you have Noa, Noah, Nuatha. From Irish, meaning like a Lord, to polynesian that means one or only. Both languages going back thousands of years.
So that word is ancient and has been around for a long time.

Some more info on the argha noa...............
http://www.masseiana.org/sellon_glossary.htm

In Egypt the story was known as Argha Noah, while in Greek mythology it is known as Argo Navis -the boat “IASON” and his crew of Argonauts used to hunt down immortality.

http://trikonahealthworks.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/hidden-hindu-origin-of-the-bible/

[Bobdog]

That's a good attitude but does it work? What if you end up hocussed...

Irony - Very good point. I think about that often because I've chosen to pull my head out of the sand, so to speak, and educate myself about what is really going on so that does make me susceptible to dark, manipulative forces. But it can't be worse than the original hocus I was under for the majority of my life, fallen under the spell of being subconsciously put to sleep while the elite moves toward global domination.

Also, I think the worst and most common kind of hocus is the kind I place on myself by subscribing to "contempt prior to investigation." So I'm investigating...I never heard of Maxwell before this interview I found of him on Veritas, so I really don't know much about him.

That video you posted was interesting. He appears to be giving the freemason handshake, but who is the other man? I don't know who that is??? Also, if Maxwell is part of the secret society, then it would make sense that all of his occult research is somehow misinformation. It would also explain why he has not been assassinated.

I appreciate you're cautioning me about him. What else have you found?

have you ever experienced at first hand any sort of reprisals

I have not, no. But I have read nothing but reports of satanic ritualism and intention toward worldwide take-over with regards to secret societies, whether its illuminati, freemasons, livery, skull and bones, neo nazis, etc.

It seems reasonable to me to consider that the "blue" levels of masonry are innocent of such ambitions against humanity, but the masonic presence and influence in America is undeniable. Their symbols are all over Washington DC and so many of the founding fathers blatant involvement point to a decided influence in American politics from the very beginning.

The same can most likely be said of London as well, but I am not the one to say it as I have never lived their, nor even visited. But tgII has certainly provided much information on the subject.

[Bobdog]

I like to read what his debunkers put out and then do research on them to find out if they are really just full of it.

Seraphim - That's the way I like to approach debatable issues as well. You posted some good research for both sides of the issue. That debunker sounds familiar. I think the same guy posted a youtube video debunking zeitgeist also. His technique is to discredit the one he's debunking by addressing other issues where the "debunked" may be wrong, but not addressing the actual issue itself.

For instance, at 6:20 in your posted debunking video, the speaker is putting forth his interpretation that Jonah and the Whale represent a celestial analogy, where "Jonah is an example of the sun going through the equinox," but the debunker tries to disqualify that analogy by pointing out an inaccuracy of the etymology of the word "Solomon." Such an argument seems inconsistent with the analogy. Regardless of how one interprets the origins of the word "Solomon" one may still make the analogy of Jonah and the Whale as representational of a celestial event.

And none of this really has anything to do with Maxwell's other etymological interpretations anyway. So it is really not too substantial to me to try to debunk a person's theories by debunking their character. Character can be interpreted many ways by many people. If you can't debunk a person's theories, resorting to character assassination is a weak argument, in my opinion.

Irony - I'm not referring in any way to your post of Maxwell. I'm speaking strictly of the debunker in Seraphim's video. I just wanted to clarify so as not to create contention here. But I am keenly interested to find out more about Maxwell's true intentions.

[Sputnik]

I appreciate you're cautioning me about him. What else have you found?

As you said, it's good to take that which helps you and still pay attention to his affiliations. Maxwell: he has put up a lot of new information about a lot of things that are indeed useful and important, but it is also good to keep in mind that he is who he is: a Freemason. That means that he is bound by oath. Bound to his secret society and not to you, so never underestimate the power of the secret power structures. As you can notice, I don't condemn him or his information, but I take all of his information with a grain of salt. The other man is the recently passed away Zecharia Sitchin. Now this man deliberately mistranslated the Sumerian Tablets, no doubt!

Unlike you I have experienced reprisals from a few freemasons for speaking publically.

Private information on anybody can be accessed rapidly through masonic contacts - police, magistrates, solicitors, bank managers, Post Office staff, Government employees etc., etc. dossiers of personal data can be built up on anybody very quickly.

In my case a Mason with the internetmoniker Vivian Vivaldi III, appearantly with good contacts to Nato decided to pay me a visit one day.

The part that took him by surprise was that I saw him before he was able to determine my identity. The moment he looked through his binoculars from about 35 meters far away on a small hill in Mauerpark, I gave him a physical signal that I spotted him already.

Re: Banned from Outlaw Forum for exposing Alan Watt

Post Dice on Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:50 pm

@ Vivanus Vivaldi III, you should also edit the post were you accuse me of having hacked into your Outlaw Account. This is not the case. I received an e-mail from (appearantly) you, suggesting to work for Nato and I know you like playing games with people. Now...tell me - I must have really upset you - so much so that you decided to visit me in Berlin in the summer of 2008? Only to see for yourself that I am who I am? Or was you actually trying to impress me? I saw you in Mauerpark on top of the hill about 30 meters away. You was with your "bodyguard" or friend and I signaled to you that I caught you observing me. Later you sat down at the round open-air theater of that park waiting for me to pass by on my way home while you were smiling and nodding your heads at me. I bet you didn't expected the "vampyr" to notice you straight away...or it must have been the shock to encounter the real thing... now one just needs to know what that "real thing" really is and I guess you do know enough. But this whole incidence made me wonder how you were able to locate me that easily. No hard feelings here....I was just surprised to see you, that's all.

Re: Banned from Outlaw Forum for exposing Alan Watt

Post Vivanus Vivaldi III on Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:56 pm

I now believe that Uri was innocent. Troy and I think that someone was purposely sending messenges to everyone to divide us. Its a common police tactic.

It was a pure coincidence of encountering Uri in Berlin, she looked sacred so I decided not to go after her. Anyway, I was there to give a harpsichord recital. I won a competition there many times for performing the Harmonous Blacksmith of Handel. I sincerely apologize to Uri, and I will delete the posts if Kris allows me to.

I have a vacation home in Lussino. I love Croatia. Everyone in Porec & Rovinj knows me. We sail to Croatia several times a year from my home at Cannaregio. I don't work in Albano, Rome anymore, so that address has expired. I hope we can be good friends. We are very close from each other if you are in Croatia. My step-grandfather was an Istrian Venetian.

http://newcastle.forumotion.com/the-grand-ballroom-f3/banned-from-outlaw-forum-for-exposing-alan-watt-t70-15.htm#1352


Vivianus



And then there is this really crazy Rosecrucian who thinks he must "exorcise" me or whatnuts....
one of his moniker is Kris and a few people know who I am talking about. Tsarion CRIED when he had to ban him from hs Forum.

And none of this really has anything to do with Maxwell's other etymological interpretations anyway.

Maxwell still insist that Nazi is etymologically derived from Nasi (Nazarene) which is really redicilous.

Nazi is short for National Socialists. A SOZI in german slang is is a socialist and a NAZI is slang for a NATIONALSOCIALIST.

I bet Maxwel has no german language skills, especially none concering german slang. He sees connections where he wants to see them.

Irony - I'm not referring in any way to your post of Maxwell. I'm speaking strictly of the debunker in Seraphim's video. I just wanted to clarify so as not to create contention here. But I am keenly interested to find out more about Maxwell's true intentions.

No worries, I am not saying that I know his intentions...they could be all good as well. What I don't like are quick assumptions and people trying to shut other people up because they are critical concerning some of those assumptions. It's an open debate or it's a farce.

[quicksilvercrescendo]

...this is a type of sickness that only a brain parasite could cause...best get a checkup for yourself...soon...

[Sputnik]

...this is a type of sickness that only a brain parasite could cause...best get a checkup for yourself...soon...

And then there is this really crazy Rosecrucian who thinks he must "exorcise" me or whatnuts....
one of his moniker is Kris and a few people know who I am talking about.

Yeah Freemason "Kris"

take a chill pill, your under lifelong surveillance by that parasite inside of yerself.

[Bobdog]

Any chance we could "keep our eyes on the ball" here? The title of this thread is "2012" not "member to member sub-plots". But hey, just a suggestion...I don't make the rules. But I've seen this kind of back and forth posting running through a lot of the threads which makes it difficult to sift through the posts to the ones that pertain to the topic starter. Since I'm new here I really don't have a clue what any of you are talking about and I'm not sure I want to know, but maybe someone could start a thread specifically for this sort of dialogue and put it where it belongs???

And now back to the topic starter...



And some interesting commentary from the poster of the video:

From: teabowbraine. From: nibirushock. READ THIS! Lyndon LaRouche 'Tragedy & Hope' address in Washington D.C. on May 7, 2008. LaRouche talked about Obama getting the nomination and the evil mindset behind the "Lisbon Treaty" to create a British-European totalitarian superstate.

The brilliant, but wicked and evil spirited occult New World Order masterplan is unfolding. The ultimate goal of globalization (or globalisation) through propaganda and rhetoric (War on Terror) and initiating chaos that eventually will lead to depopulation (genocide).

Under the energy of Venus and the Sun, the occult NWO foundation masterplan must be realized by 2013. (that is, by Gregorian calendar date December 22, 2013 following another ritual circle around the Sun (starting in Solar Maximum year =2012) counting from December 22, 2012. (= end date of Mayan Long Count Calendar 13.00.00 Baktun).

It takes 243 years for Venus to return to the exact point where it started. It's called a Venus Round. And they (Illuminati), determined the creation of the NWO in 1770, with Rothschild and Adam Weishaupt as the real "founding fathers."

1770 was the year in which a new cycle of 242 years started, sectioned in 99,11,121,11 = 242 years! (=11x9, 99:9, 11x11, 121:11) (sequence= x9,:9,x11,:11 = ratio 9/11)

Right now we are living in the ':11 stage', meaning the LAST 11 years from SolarMax to SolarMax, starting from 2001 (WTC attack) to 2012.

11:11 as deceptive symbolism, means nothing more than the completion of their NWO in the last solar maximum cycle to 2012 with the start of their NWO in the new year 2013.

In 2013 there will have been a complete Venus Round of 243 years counting from 1770, and in THEIR (Illuminati/Elite) minds, the celebration of a new "spiritual era" but not in the sense as you think it will be, but with a "New Rome" represented by the United Nations (UN)/NATO in the spirit of ancient Babylon. The true meaning of the City and Tower of Babel.

We are still living under the Anglo-American World Empire. The key London oligarchs, bankers, the House of Windsor and those in alliance with them (who brought the Nazi system into power, starting in the 1920s) are still dominating the political-occult ruling Elite, of which the Bilderberg group.

Is it any coincidence the NEXT official summer Olympic Games will be held in 2012 and in the City of London? No.

In their arrogance, convinced that by 2012 Europe will have become that socialist-like superstate and the global NWO (European Union/North American Union (SPP)(EU/NAU) will be a fact, they will celebrate the historical Venus rising and transit on Solar Maximum 2012 with a Nazi-Germany style Olympic Games (Berlin -1936) in order to demonstrate the power and reality of this New World Order and their supporters to the entire world.

It's ALL symbolism! And it's very hard to believe, I know.

The political-occult NWO endgame masterplan was executed in the year 2000, or the year zero (00) when George W. Bush became president-elect on December 13, 2000 which is the Julian calendar date for our Gregorian winter solstice calendar date December 22.

(Remember that Al Gore conceded to Bush on this exact date December 13, 2000 and remember that Hillary conceded to Obama on the exact Venus rising date as evening star on June 9, 2008.)

The capture of Saddam Hussein on that exact date, December 13, 2003, was well planned ahead and NO coincidence either.

The political-occult ruling European Elite arranged the deceptive "Lisbon Treaty" -which eventually should make Europe a totalitarian superstate- to be signed on that exact date, December 13, 2007, which is NO coincidence either.

As was foreseen, after Ireland rejected this treaty in the one and only referendum on June 12, 2008, the political-occult ruling European Elite are NOW simply going to ignore Ireland and force their "Lisbon Treaty" through.

Their arrogance knows no bounds. And it has everything to do with their political-occult 2012-2013 NWO agenda.

All Americans should read this. What You Need to Know About the British-Israel World Federation Movement:
http://tinyurl.com/23enwhf
Note: we do not endorse the teachings of Jordan Maxwell, but this research is clear.

The biofuel scam of Prince Philip that is reducing the worlds population. It is now been exposed biofuel has caused the present food crisis. Leaked report - Biofuels the source of world food crisis:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment...

LaRouche also talked about World War 3 and the British Empire's past and present successful plans to take control of the whole planet. Download or watch all of the "Tragedy & Hope" productions (May 7, 2008) from LaRouche Webcast:
http://www.larouchepac.com/media/2008...

LaRouche has a brilliant website and lots of informative videos to watch/download for free:
http://www.larouchepac.com

Haven't heard about "2013" before. Anybody?
Also, check out those links he provides. Wild stuff.
I notice that this video was posted back in 2008 so this is probably old news to most of you, but I'm just discovering it, so please be patient with me as I try to catch up.

[Flames]

I've noticed that the 2012 topic has really flared up all over the place again. It's been on my mind lately too. But I have different thoughts about it, then what may being discussed.

Putting the cosmic cycles aside, and bringing things down to earth, and setting aside the global political, economic problems..

What I am seeing in regard to 2012, is a specific and obvious sign that civilization as we know it is crumbling before our eyes. People have been talking about the fall of previous civilizations, and what has led up to those events.

This is what has been on my mind as well. I've said here before, that these cycles are inevitable, and because they are inevitable, they can be predetermined by an observer.

I was listening to an interesting podcast tonight about all of this "civilization collapsing" stuff, and it does seem to be routed in human evolution, or devolution. The collective consciousness seems to be agreed on this shift/collapse, from what I see. I'll expand.

To put things bluntly, human beings have grown soft. Soft to the point, where we live in such comfortable and static day to day existences, and only for material gain.

Think about it. Centuries ago, men lived with a life span of a short candle. To protect himself, his family, his tribe, they had to reach a point in their civilization, where education and the use of developing language could even occur.

Before all of that could even happen, they had to fight off wild beasts, and wild people, to protect themselves for hundreds of years, before the cities would rise, and commerce could expand.

In modern times, the cities have filled up, the resources have begun to become scarce, and there are just too many goddamn people on the planet today. This has created a mass existence of pure competition between individuals, who in their more primitive states, would have worked together.

Not only that, but the earlier civilizations shared in the rituals of hunting, gathering, rites of passages into manhood/womanhood, people were more intimately connected. Whereas today, everything has already been conquered, the buildings have been erected, and people don't know what to do. Now the initiations and rites of passage are steered toward competition instead of the experience of feeling human in its entirety.

The city lights have blocked out the night sky, and we have turned away against the ultimate technology, the earth itself.

Isn't it a part of human nature, to expand the tribe, adventure, and create new experiences? There has been a lot of talk lately, about sending the human race over to colonize Mars (on a one way trip), in case of a catastrophic event here on Earth.

I think this is another one of those sub-cycles that repeat, the same consciousness mankind had when migration to America for example. It seems to be happening all over again. Only in this case, there isn't another part of the world to colonize, and maybe it's our instinct to expand, due to the inevitability of that particular cycle.

Even people on the streets are talking about a collapse of civilization. I hear this talk amongst friends and family. It may be similar to the way animals sense a coming storm. Maybe mankind knows its coming but he doesn't know what to do.

One thing is for sure, most people have grown too soft. It would be interesting to see how a society would re emerge after a collapse like this one, given the pathetic, weak, immoral, dumb state most people are in.

I'm certain of one thing, looking back at civilizations like before the collapse of Roman empire, and Greece before them, people became too lazy, and morally sloppy before it happened. I think this is the clearest indicator, that shit is about to go down.

Never forget the role of technology throughout history. Hundreds of years ago, people relied on technology for specific survival reasons, where as today, technology is ever growing, and now it relies on us to perpetuate it's own needs.

This is just my 'alternative' interpretation of 2012, rather than the Mayan calendar and stuff. Just some thoughts.

[tgII]

Flames, you're getting side tracked, remember what Joseph
Farrell discussed about 2010 and this idea of collapse? The
idea thought and consciousness is very deliberately manipulated;
2010 is like a bad migraine headache, take two aspirin with a
cold glass of water and then go straight to bed.

You will be fine in the morning.

[KapitanScarlet]

take two aspirin with a
cold glass of water and then go straight to bed.
You will be fine in the morning.

You just solved the 2012 angst generator for them all TG thank you , life will now return to serenity

BUt there is some psychological changes happening quicker and quicker with the computer age explosion i notice around me

[tgII]

Kapis, you're not kidding; just wait until those Cray computers
kick in and start giving us commands.

And I meant '2012', not '2010.' Must have been the angst.

[Sputnik]

What I am seeing in regard to 2012, is a specific and obvious sign that civilization as we know it is crumbling before our eyes.

Have you heard about the 11th hour?

"It's the last time something can be done"

The 12th hour is representing the end of something - for example the end of today

The 13th hour is representing a new beginning - of something new, also called: the first hour.

2012 represents the last possible moment of change, it's the last hour of changing direction.

which will end in the 12th hour and the introduction of a new era like proposed by the NWO.

starting in the 13th hour. Have you ever wondered why it is called 20 12

and not two thousand and twelve?

Because they seperated the 20 and the 12, it's the only clue they have given you.

It's a warning that we must settle the score (20) before the end (12)

(or that we must settle the score in the 11th hour).

2 = a couple

12 = a dozen

What is the score?

20

20.12 in the clock also reads 8:12

Add 8 + 1 + 2 = 11

Do you see what I mean? The 11th hour

20 + 1 + 2 = 23

or

20........12

2+0 = 2 & 1+2 = 3 : 23

23 in a 24 hour clock?

It's eleven o'clock = eleventh hour

THE SCORE SHOULD BE SETTLED BY

20:12 HOUR ON THE 20th DAY OF THE 12th MONTH IN THE YEAR 2012

That's 8:12 pm on the 20th of December 2012

When the 11 meets a triangle

11 > 3

We have the 33

A very significant number in secret societies.

In fact, it's the higest degree in Freemasonry.



Look at the seal on the 1 dollar bill

It shows a triangle, it takes 13 steps to climb the triangle which we see as a pyramid

This is the new order after the 12th hour, the 13th hour is the NEW WORLD ORDER

Let's look at 20 12 again

2 is 1+1 or one and one (convert to tally count) 11

1+2 is 3

and 11 x 3 is = 33

Or you do it like the deltas

II X III (11 X 111)

is 1221 or 12 21

=

33 again

SkULL & BONES

Reflect the last two letters of each word, they are numbers.

LL or II = 11

and ES is 23

11 and 23

The freemasonic organisation to shape the 11th hour.

George W. Bush and the Iraq war with it's consequences =

The beginning of WW III.....that's the plan.

[Flames]

It's sure been a headache, alright.

[seraphim]

I agree with both of you. And that some folks are scrambling to accomplish something.

Flames, the Mayan Calendar as with almost everything is being manipulated by the controllers. They like to get their dirty hands in everything and then twist others work and system. 2012 is about galactic changes, which produce evolutionary changes. And cataclysms are involved. That is why it is called a different world after the changes, from one world to the next, we are supposed to be going into the fifth world.
But of course you got the controllers using 2012 for their own benefit so that they can create their own NWO. It would be the perfect time to not only wipe out more people, aka, WWWIII, but then easily take control of those worldwide who are shocked out of their senses, because they have never accepted any kind of change (unless oddly it's inforced upon them subliminally or through religion, media, etc). And of course most people are complacent anyway. People won't change perhaps of the imbedded programs that's why it's so hard to change.

What people need to do is accept the fact once and for all that things will change and it's not going to be easy. If they accept the natural changes, prepare and get ready as best one can, as the Mayans and ancient tribes did and then maybe they would survive.

The NWO understand their flock very well. So in order to cut down any misbehavior, they cleverly will be treating all Americans as suspects and terrorists. But then say no it's not our beloved Americans that are a threat, but those terrorists out there, so we must protect you in every way. Which is of course taking away more rights and treating Americans like those terrorists. It's just another one of their psychological mental jobs.
Because it is very bad for them and interrupts with the scheme of things for their slaves to oppose them and we have to be punished. To them we are nothing at all and to be treated anyway they wish.

As for the changes it is interesting that science now is supporting the Pleiadian and other new agers theory that cosmic rays effect evolution.

[seraphim]

Bobdog, as for 2012, I guess they have to give or take a year, they don't want to mess up and have to be exact, it's more than an event of a lifetime.
It's surreal to find out that all those sci fi movies can be made reality. I feel like a cave person talking really! In the past there were advanced civilizations and sci fi was real but not in these primitive times. It's like the past and future were reversed!
Interesting website....
The photons, the scientists admit about them. They are coming.
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16049

[Bobdog]

O.K. This is going to be reeediculously long and is bound to give some readers cause for an infernal migraine...but I spent a long time on this so I hope its not total bullshit.

After some earnest research of tgII's posts about Sohonet and 911 the thought occurred to me that if he's correct and 911 was some twisted snuff film, then also if (big if) the 2012 Olympics is fated for some staged drama by the world's elite, then there should be some connections.

I haven't uncovered anything relating to 2012 Olympics and "Warmist Investors", but that's a whole other area of research I have yet to devote my time to. (I bet if someone looks into it, they could find a connection between Canary Wharf that tgII cited and the Olympics somehow.) But here's what I did find:

Bear in mind, its a thin thread of speculation, but I think it has merit. I won't waste much time on elaborating. My links and quotes speak for themselves. It shouldn't be too hard to see how one leads to another.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Olins

Wolff Olins is a brand consultancy, based in London, New York City and Dubai. It employs 150 designers, strategists and account managers, and has been part of the Omnicom Group since 2001.

Criticism
Throughout its history, Wolff Olins has presented controversial work.[2][3] Its piper design for BT in 1991 attracted a great deal of opposition.The company was also responsible for the short-lived $110m (£75m) re-branding of PwC Consulting to Monday in 2002. The launch of the London 2012 brand in 2007 was met with widespread public disapproval in the UK, being called anywhere from a colossal waste of £400,000 to a pornographic representation of the character Lisa Simpson.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_2012

The 2012 Summer Olympic Games, officially known as the Games of the XXX Olympiad, are scheduled to take place in London, United Kingdom, from 27 July to 12 August 2012.[1] London will become the first city to officially host the modern Olympic Games three times,[2][3] having previously done so in 1908 and in 1948.[4][5]
London was elected as the host city on 6 July 2005 during the 117th IOC Session in Singapore, defeating Moscow, New York City, Madrid and Paris after four rounds of voting.[6] The successful bid was headed by former Olympic champion Sebastian Coe.
There have been two London 2012 logos: one for the bidding process created by Kino Design and a second as the brand for the Games themselves. The latter, designed by Wolff Olins, was unveiled on 4 June 2007 and cost £400,000.[44] This new logo is a representation of the number 2012, with the Olympic Rings embedded within the zero.[45]
London 2012 has stated that the new logo is aimed at reaching young people. Sebastian Coe stated that it builds upon everything that the organising committee has said "about reaching out and engaging young people, which is where our challenge is over the next five years".
Early public reaction to the logo, as measured by a poll on the BBC website, was largely negative: more than 80% of votes gave the logo the lowest possible rating.[52] Several newspapers have run their own logo competitions, displaying alternative submissions from their readers. The Sun displayed a design by a macaque monkey.[53] It was suggested that the logo resembles the cartoon character Lisa Simpson performing fellatio[54] and others have complained that it looks like a distorted Swastika.[55]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Coe

He is a multimillionaire[citation needed] and a member of the East India Club, a private Gentlemen's Club in London.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Club

History
Founded in the middle of the 19th century, the club's original members, as set out in the Rule Book of 1851, were-
“ The East India Company's servants- Clerical, Civil, Military, Naval and Medical of all the Presidencies, including those retired [and] all commissioned officers of Her Majesty's Army and Navy who have served in India, members of the Bar and Legal Profession who may have been or are Company's Advocates and Solicitors... ”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honourable_East_India_Company

At the time of the American Revolution the East India Company flag was identical to the Grand Union Flag. The flag probably inspired the Stars and Stripes (as argued by Sir Charles Fawcett in 1937).[27]
The East India Company (also known as the East India Trading Company, English East India Company,[1] and, after the Treaty of Union, the British East India Company)[2] was an early English joint-stock company[3] that was formed initially for pursuing trade with the East Indies, but that ended up trading mainly with the Indian subcontinent and China.
Opium trade
Main article: Opium Wars
In the eighteenth century, Britain had a huge trade deficit with Qing Dynasty China and so in 1773, the Company created a British monopoly on opium buying in Bengal. As the opium trade was illegal in China, Company ships could not carry opium to China. So the opium produced in Bengal was sold in Calcutta on condition that it be sent to China.[20]
Despite the Chinese ban on opium imports, reaffirmed in 1799, it was smuggled into China from Bengal by traffickers and agency houses (such as Jardine, Matheson and Company, Ltd.) in amounts averaging 900 tons a year. The proceeds from drug-runners at Lintin Island were paid into the Company's factory at Canton and by 1825, most of the money needed to buy tea in China was raised by the illegal opium trade. In 1838, with opium smuggling approaching 1,400 tons a year, the Chinese imposed a death penalty on opium smuggling and sent a new governor, Lin Zexu, to curb smuggling. This resulted in the First Opium War (1839–1842). The British seized Hong Kong and opened the Chinese market to British drug traffickers.

And returning to Sebastian Coe...

He was appointed a Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire in the 2006 New Year's Honours List for services to sport.[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire

The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire is an order of chivalry established on 4 June 1917 by George V of the United Kingdom.[1][2] The Order comprises five classes in civil and military divisions. In decreasing order of seniority, these are:
• Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire (GBE) or Dame Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire (GBE)[3]
• Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire (KBE) or Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire (DBE)
• Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE)
• Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE)
• Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE)
Only the highest two ranks automatically cause an individual to become a knight or dame, an honour allowing the recipient to use the title "Sir" (male) or "Dame" (female) before his or her first name (though men can be knighted separately from the Orders of Chivalry).
The Order has six officials: the Prelate, the Dean, the Secretary, the Registrar, the King of Arms, and the Usher. The Bishop of London, a senior bishop in the Church of England, serves as the Order's Prelate. The Dean of St Paul's is ex officio the Dean of the Order. The Order's King of Arms is not a member of the College of Arms, as are many other heraldic officers. The Usher of the Order is known as the Gentleman Usher of the Purple Rod; he does not – unlike his Order of the Garter equivalent, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod – perform any duties related to the House of Lords

The British monarch is Sovereign of the Order, and appoints all other members of the Order (by convention, on the advice of the Government). The next most senior member is the Grand Master, of which there have been three: Edward, Prince of Wales (1917–1936), Queen Mary (1936–1953), and the current Grand Master, HRH The Duke of Edinburgh (1953–present).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

Before he became consort, the Duke was appointed to the Order of the Garter on 19 November 1947

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread160324/pg1

The Order of the Garter rules over every single secret society. The Order of the Garter has a long history with the Priory of Sion, The Knights of St. John of Jerusalem (Protestant), The Nights of Malta (Catholic), Order of the Bath who are linked with Masonic association.

Peter Rupert Carrington, close associate with Kissinger, chairman of the Bilderberg group and related to the Rothschilds, also (during its time of existence) President of the Royal Institute of International Affairs (sister to Council of Foreign Affairs), member of the Order of the Osiris.

Dr. Jose Delgado created Stymoceiver for mind control. Dr. John Rawlings-Reece, founder of the Tavistock and designer of programs of mind control.

Reinhard Gehlen, former nazi of Hitler's regime, was brought out of Germany in Operation Paperclip, began mind control operations Artichoke, MKULTRA, Operation Midnight, Climax with the help of the Central Intelligence Agency.

Zbignew Brzezinski of the Polish Black Nobility.

Sir William Stephsenson led an elite spy group in MI6 aka Special Operations, reporting only to the British monarch. Stephenson set up the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), he lent a personal hand to kill John F. Kennedy.

And just a few older secret societies, Order of Hermes which represented a number of Houses (Bjoraer, Bonesagus, Criamon, Diedne, Flambeau, Guernicus, Jerbiton, Mercere, Merinta, Tremere, Tytalus, Verditious; Kingdom of Aerdy and Infernal). Hermes also was known as Mercury (Thoth)

Outlaws League was founded by German refugees in Paris in 1834 which split off into the League of the Just via Jakobus Venedy, and French society, Societe des saisons led by Blanq ui and Barbes. The German Workers' Educational Association (via communists) had communities or lodges via the League.

Society of the Elect and an Association of Helpers (member: Reginald Bailol Brett/Lord Esher, confidant of Queen Victoria, advisor of King Edward VII and King George V). British Round Table created in England on February 5, 1891. Council on Foreign Relations located at Harold Pratt House, 58 East 68th Street, New York City, New York, 10021. Trilateral Commission created by David Rockefeller.

Organizations, Societies, Associations, Clubs, Groups, Institutes, Foundations, Trusts, Companies, Banks, Agenices, Parties, Lodges, Houses, Families and Individuals (all branching at different levels) are under the auspices of the Order of the Garter. Bush and Blair both, answer to the Order of the Garter. Skulls & Bones, Freemasonry, etc, all answer to the Order of the Garter. The Order of the Garter is the most secret society in the world.

And another source...

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f32/top-mason-6652.html

Queen Elizabeth II is "The See", or what the eye at the top of
the pyramid represents.
Quote:
Most British honours encompass the whole United Kingdom, but the topmost three each pertain to one constituent nation. The Order of the Garter, pertaining to England, is senior in age and precedence; The Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle pertains to Scotland; and the now-dormant The Most Illustrious Order of St Patrick pertains to Ireland. New appointments are always announced on St George's Day, 23 April, Saint George being the patron saint of England
...
The Most Noble Order of the Garter is an order of chivalry, or knighthood, originating in medieval England, and presently bestowed on recipients in any of the Commonwealth realms; it is the pinnacle of the honours system in the United Kingdom. Membership in the order is limited to the sovereign, the Prince of Wales, and no more than twenty-four members
...
Throughout the 20th century, women continued to be associated with the Order, but except for foreign female monarchs, they were not made companions.[9] In 1987, however, it became possible to install "Ladies Companion of the Garter" under a statute of Queen Elizabeth II.[10]
Order of the Garter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Quote:
The Order of the Garter is the parent organization over Free Masonry, world-wide. When a man becomes a 33rd Degree Mason, he swears allegiance to that organization, and thereby to Prince Charles.
United States Presidents and the Masonic Power Structure. freemason,jesuit,illuminati,presidents,trilateral commission,council of foreign relations,skull and bones,hell fire club,satanist,
Quote:
The Order of the Garter is the secret inner group which is an elite group within the Order of St. John of Jerusalem which is the British part of the Knights of Malta. The Knights of the Garter are the leaders of the Committee of 300.
Knights of Malta

Who is the Committe of 300? Who controls this powerful group of people?
Quote:
This committee of 300 is modeled after the British East India Company's Council of 300, founded by the British aristocracy in 1727. Most of its immense wealth arose out of the opium trade with China. This group is responsible for the phony drug wars here in the U.S. These phony drug wars were to get us to give away our constitutional rights. Asset forfeiture is a prime example, where huge assets can be seized without trail and no proof of guilt needed. Also the Committee of 300 long ago decreed that there shall be a smaller-much smaller-and better world, that is, their idea of what constitutes a better world.

The myriads of useless eaters consuming scarce natural resources were to be culled. Industrial progress supports population growth. Therefore the command to multiply and subdue the earth found in Genesis had to be subverted. This called for an attack upon Christianity; the slow but sure disintegration of industrial nation states; the destruction of hundreds of millions of people, referred to by the Committee of 300 as "surplus population, " and the removal of any leader who dared to stand in the way of the Committee's global planning to reach the foregoing objectives. Not that the U.S. government didn't know, but as it was part of the conspiracy, it helped to keep the lid on information rather than let the truth be known. Queen, Elizabeth II, is the head of the Committee of 300

So if QE II is head of the 300, and the Order of the Garter controls them, who controls the Order of the Garter??
Quote:
Order of the Garter is the core of the Committee Of 300 (aka Olympians). Queen Elizabeth II is the leader of this organization.
Order Of The Garter. george bush,prince charles,order of the garter,order of the bath,queen,lord rothschild

And here's the connection to tie all of this in with Sohonet and the possibility that they may be setting up another opportunity to provide propagandised news footage (as in the 911 snuff film) but this time for the staged attack or appearance of fake aliens at the 2012 Olympics to con people worldwide that they are real. (Sounds about as believable as what we were fed about 911,yet more people bought that lie than not.) Not to mention that this was already staged once before in 1936 with Orson Welles and just as many people bought that lie as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Exhibition_2012

The Great Exhibition 2012 is a festival showcasing the best of British being held in the summer of 2012 at Stoneleigh Park in Warwickshire.[1]
It is inspired by the Great Exhibition of 1851 and the Festival of Britain 1951.
It will feature nine main arenas: The Footprint of Britain; a showcase of British commerce, The Business and Life Academy, The Kitchen, High Street of the Future, The Stage, Playing Fields, Fun and Games, Adventure Island, and Under the Spotlight.[2]
It was launched at the BFI Southbank on the 12th of April 2010 by the Great Exhibition Company UK.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFI_Southbank

BFI Southbank (formerly known as the National Film Theatre) is the leading repertory cinema in the UK specialising in seasons of classic, independent and non-English language films and is operated by the British Film Institute

From the BFI Southbank homepage:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/about/whoweare/history.html

1983
The bfi celebrated its 50th anniversary with a banquet at the Guildhall. On the occasion the Institute was granted a Royal Charter, and the first bfi fellowships were awarded to Marcel Carné, David Lean, Michael Powell, Emeric Pressburger, Satyajit Ray and Orson Welles.
BFI Fellows
Here is the full roll call:
• Robert Altman
• Michelangelo Antonioni
• Dame Peggy Ashcroft
• Lord Attenborough CBE
• Lord Bernstein
• Bernardo Bertolucci
• Sir Dirk Bogarde
• Danny Boyle
• Lord Brabourne
• Sir Michael Caine
• Jack Cardiff
• Marcel Carné
• Souleymane Cissé
• Terence Davies
• Bette Davis
• Gérard Depardieu
• Clint Eastwood
• Sir Denis Forman
• David Francis OBE
• Sir J Paul Getty
• Lewis Gilbert
• Graham Greene
• Sir Alec Guinness
• Leslie Hardcastle OBE
• John Hurt
• Sir Jeremy Isaacs
• Derek Jarman
• Deborah Kerr CBE
• Abbas Kiarostami
• Krzysztof Kieslowski
• Elem Klimov
• Akira Kurosawa
• Verity Lambert
• Lynda La Plante
• Sir David Lean
• Mike Leigh
• Ken Loach
• Sir John Mills
• Jeanne Moreau
• Maureen O'Hara
• Lord Olivier
• Michael Parkinson CBE
• Dilys Powell CBE
• Michael Powell
• Emeric Pressburger
• Lord Puttnam CBE
• Satyajit Ray
• Vanessa Redgrave CBE
• Nicolas Roeg CBE
• David Rose
• Sir Sydney Samuelson CBE
• Thelma Schoonmaker Powell
• Martin Scorsese
• Ridley Scott
• Ousmane Sembene
• Jean Simmons
• Anthony Smith CBE
• Dame Maggie Smith
• Dame Elizabeth Taylor
• Jeremy Thomas
• Bob Weinstein
• Harvey Weinstein
• Orson Welles
• Robert Wise
• Alan Yentob
• Fred Zinnemann

There are a lot of "Sirs, Lords and Dames" in that list, which means they are members of the Order of the British Empire, which I already covered above. In this list, Orson Welles is fourth from the bottom, not that he's a member of the Order, but his award of an original fellowship of BFI Southbank has some significance to this theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Welles

Welles first found national and international fame as the director and narrator of a 1938 radio adaptation of H. G. Wells's novel The War of the Worlds performed for the radio drama anthology series Mercury Theatre on the Air. It was reported to have caused widespread panic when listeners thought that an extraterrestrial invasion was occurring.

And finally...Under the "UK/Europe" column, in alphabetical order, you'll find BFI Southbank as a listed client.

http://www.sohonet.co.uk/about_sohonet/our_clients.php

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Bill Cooper has been claiming for some time now that the Illuminati agenda is to bring the world under the dominion of a one world government through a staged cause to unite everyone against an extraterrestrial invasion. He may be right. I don't remember who here told me about him, but thank you for that lead.




I realize that probably everything I've cited herein has already been posted by someone, somewhere else on this website, but it would take me too long to track them all down. So please forgive my unintended plaigerism of others' researched work. I think that for the most part these are all your ideas. I just put them in this order because that's how it makes the most sense to me.

Lastly, whether this adds up or not, my sincere thanks to tgII for his efforts to uncover Sohonet, 911, East India Trading Co. and the opium trade and many other topics he's posted.

Whatcha think?

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As somebody who has studied American history a great deal, yet only on an amateurly and esoteric level, I feel that the real message here is "own your thoughts." The social engineering behind nine eleven was a direct assault on the "Anglo American/Corporate Elite", namely the two masonic pillars known as Joaquin and Boaz. This could have been an outside attack from a group America and her intelligence know almost nothing about. I have my suspicions as to who, but what I believe has happened, is the creation of a traumatized group of people, readied for human sacrifice.

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Try this video and book on for size concerning 911...
https://darythymdivine.forumotion.net/conspiracy-or-fact-f5/911-and-the-agenda-t87-30.htm#5544

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QSC and Lada - I just found the discussion about brain parasites in the Nonhuman Entities thread and now understand the context in which your comments were made. Having no prior knowledge of it, I mistook your comments above for unfounded insult. I'm sorry about my remarks for you to redirect them elsewhere. My defensive posturing is inappropriate in this regard.

Any chance we could "keep our eyes on the ball" here? The title of this thread is "2012" not "member to member sub-plots". But hey, just a suggestion...I don't make the rules. But I've seen this kind of back and forth posting running through a lot of the threads which makes it difficult to sift through the posts to the ones that pertain to the topic starter. Since I'm new here I really don't have a clue what any of you are talking about and I'm not sure I want to know, but maybe someone could start a thread specifically for this sort of dialogue and put it where it belongs???

...must be my own brain parasite...multiplying.

I tried to view the 911 vids, QSC, but the filesharing site they're on locks me out for twenty minutes after each vid I download unless I buy a membership. To borrow your own cliche, "What the fuck is this shit?"

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I tried to view the 911 vids, QSC, but the filesharing site they're on locks me out for twenty minutes after each vid I download unless I buy a membership. To borrow your own cliche, "What the fuck is this shit?"

Hmmm...really? Because I thought I could not have provided any more guiding clarification...that you did not need to use the filesharing files...but scroll beneath them to the video parts in frames on the same webpage.

I repeat...If you click on the web link for the 23 parts of the video, then when on that webpage scroll down a bit further below all the file sharing links...and you will be able to watch the video in frames on that webpage.

...you will find the video parts will be listed there in frames without having to download anything.
Dimitri Khalezov...911 and the nuclear detonation of the World Trade Center Towers...
(let me know what you think of this one Timothy)

23 Parts...On how the towers were taken down with nukes...
...just scroll down this page a bit to be able to watch the videos in frames rather than download individual listed files...unless you want to keep and archive it...
http://thisiszionism.blogspot.com/2010/05/dimitri-khalezovs-nuclear-demolition.html

To download his e-book "The Third Truth About 911"...
http://www.dimitri-khalezov-video.com/Dimitri_Khalezov_book_download_Third_Truth_911thology.htm

Let me know if you need more assistance. Although I am not sure how I could have been, or could be anymore helpful on this matter.

I found the nuke theory to be very interesting, particularly the turning of concrete and steel into dust.
Let me know what you think.

Did you watch this one yet Timothy? Give me your opinion on it as well.

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