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Post  KapitanScarlet on Tue 14 Sep 2010, 00:14

highnoon wrote:im reasoning how i should think/feel about about it.

Dont worry guys im not a hater.

just expressing a facet of my authetic self. Or is it?

how do i figure out what my authentic self is........

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Was just thinking about what "To perpetuate the expression of the authentic self " is or should i say isnt

Found this really classic Greek term called Akracia
There are many elaborated definitions of this term over the ages, socrates seemed to approach its definition from the root of reason whereby aristotle came from the root of opinion , other people came from other angles, but i think the short wiki definition suits my understanding best which is "lacking command (over oneself)"), occasionally transliterated as acrasia, is the state of acting against one's better judgment.

Many people today are no longer "reasonable" , but they are very "opinionated", this would be fine if these opinions had been reasoned out by themselfs, but mostly their opinions are imported from others without them having the ability to truly understand "why" they hold a particular opinion .
In general , the opinion will have been imported from an idol, a friend, a parent, a teacher, a lover, because they really like the person or think they do
This is nothing sinister in itself, but once it multiplies onto itself, it becomes a way of being whereby the person just imports opinions that seem safe bets to hold in society depending what mask of personality they are currently wearing as in playing the rebel or playing the society model .

Both masks have opposing opinions but they have one thing in common , these opinions were never reasoned out by themselves

In time, this leads to them taking physical or psychological actions that are completly opposed to their own better judgement , but still they take these actions , compelled by a force that lurks in their psyche .

Why do they take them ? , Because "their own better judgement ' has become a very weak muscle
Why is it a weak muscle ? Because they have never really listened to it , developed it and acted on it , and thats because they had been importing other peoples opinions and acting on them , which led to them eventually acting against their own better judgements which was becoming a weaker and weaker muscle (voice) due to lack of exercise

So in time, these people actually begin to perpetuate the expression of another self (others imported opinions) , but it is not their own essential self , and this alien perpetuation of self (which is other selfs superimposed through hard flashed opinions onto them, which now set like concrete on top of their own dead better judgement ) perpetuates itself through all their social power connections to society from psychology to physical endeavours .

Pretty soon you have a living breathing impostor self living a perfect lie just like a tony blair , on the outside , a self confessed smiling successful man, but in reality, a hopeless puppet to influences he dare not even imagine in his darkest dreams such is the labyrinth he has led himself into in the pursuit of societal powers

Because the false perpetuation continues to create growth, more and more of their personality is investing through societal expressions in being a false persona and so it becomes more and more difficult to reverse the falsification, pretty soon, only a breakdown can allow them the space to try and regather their own better judgements (inner wisdom) , but the greeks had a better term for this as well, i believe its a metanoia, an internal turnaround . Amazing thing to see someone do that, takes great courage and commitment , but i wouldnt hold my breath on blair doing that, hes so far gone, that he tried to play out a public metanoia by becoming a catholic , such is the labyrinthian hold that something has in his psychology , he dont know of hes comin or goin anymore , but he will keep smilin

In theory, it can even be considered that a strong voluptuous opinion is an entity in itself , beneficial or destructive, that can inhabit and overcome the emotional and intellectual body of a host

The strong opinion is constantly invested with energy by the carriers of it

So to conclude, the perpetuation of the authentic self, is to become aware through developed reasoning or other vehicle of understanding of ones own influences and expressions in regard to health and well-being of the self and those others that it comes in contact with , all the while, progressing to some greater understanding of the nature of being and spirit in this physical world in regard to there being some higher aware intelligence behind the veils of current perception

But at first, a faith or belief must be held that there is indeed an authentic self entangled with the illusions and delusions set upon it in this world , that requires to be extracted from the mist and then polished and represented in its inimatable brilliance

As Jesus might say, the second coming of the self , this time with the conscious and wise self at its own helm even although that conscious self is still open to influence beyond its current understandings, it now has reasoned a solid ethical platform to use as a filtration system , i guess thats called the society of the responsible self which then becomes a society of responsible selfs if people are to co-exist in harmony , filtering in or out things that may beneficial or destructive to their well being and health

And from there, i can understand the initial secrecy of a secret society that has a shared ethical standard for selfs which they want to preserve and cultivate and protect from the non-believers of such.

And so corruption can arouse if these ethical standards are not updated with the progression of consciousness which is always changing and requires a new suit and ethical handbook for each generation .

The philosophers are the people that should be providing this, not the politicians , but economics or dogmatic ethics tend to dictate what rules are enforced , not present day reasoned ethics



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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sun 12 Dec 2010, 21:20

This looks like a potential classic , if anyone finds an online version for sampling , post the link , nothing on piratebay Razz

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Post  KapitanScarlet on Mon 17 Jan 2011, 01:03

i had the option to watch this BLack Swan , at least i watched about 1 hour and 20 minutes and couldnt take no more, it sucks bigtime for me, more damp squib than black swan , but i will watch the finale sometime to confirm my opinion to myself ,
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 29 Jan 2011, 12:19

WOLFGANG PETERSON famous for Das Boot



......also made one of the most amazing films on occult psychology ever made in 1984 called "THE NEVERENDING STORY" about Fantasia which has no boundarys to Reality, Gmorks speech near the end is brilliant as are other areas of dialogues and symbolism

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Re: Cinematic Masterpieces

Post  seraphim on Sun 30 Jan 2011, 05:33

Hey Kapis, the Neverending Story sure was and still is an amazing film! Very Happy
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 09 Apr 2011, 20:34

RIP SIDNEY LUMET , made some superb films , too many to mention

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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Sun 10 Apr 2011, 01:18

Wow. That was a superb movie Kapis. I had never seen it before.

I could feel my shoulders tensing up at certain parts...the film actually gave me a physical and visceral response. And all through the acting...with no loud or symphonic soundtrack or CG bullshit.
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Tue 12 Apr 2011, 00:48

Great stuff qsc, glad you enjoyed that one , always found it an excellent piece myself
You highlighted my own pet hate and the scourge of modern film / tv

And all through the acting...with no loud or symphonic soundtrack or CG bullshit.

A soundtrack can be / is an important asset , even a little cg (cough cough) but much of the stuff ive taken a moment to check out in recent times is overdozed in one or other or grossly inappropriately applied , encourages the trend of people not interacting with a film through their emotion and intellect

Loud sound to everything and excessive cg saves them real thoughtful effort as they pulverise the watching audience with their "art"

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Post  KapitanScarlet on Fri 29 Apr 2011, 02:41

love the intro to these, some excellent episodes in the shelfs all intended to stimulate the imagination .....whatever happened to television nowadays What a Face
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Fri 29 Apr 2011, 16:58

i watched that one last night flames and the devil one sounds scarily like the cunning of the devil itself

Some of these themes are way creepier than modern horror, not to mention ORIGINAL. No CGI effects, just a 30 minute story with good writing. Watching these made me want to start writing my own short stories.
Thats what real art should do, inspire the imagination and creative juices, aint so much of it around these days in media outlets
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 30 Apr 2011, 11:40

Couldnt agree more Flames, the worrying trend i keep encountering more and more in the uk which can drive one around the bend, is the amount of employees that cant think for themselfs ...outside their given box....they can only follow a company protocol , even when given evidence that illustrates to them a particular failure in that protocol to deal with the subject at hand , they have to contact their "Team Leader" the new buzz word in uk business , its got to be an american thing is it ? Team Leader Very Happy

So we got a bunch of virtually automated human robots working in our businesses already here, can only follow a given flow chart of information for dealing with any problems , cannot think for themselfs, whether this is from fear or just from plain brainwashing idle brain syndrome, i dont know, but its active in all areas of uk beauracratic business structures, they really dont need the silicon chip inserted Shocked
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Post  seraphim on Sat 11 Jun 2011, 08:46

I had to put this one here....I wonder what is awaiting to emerge. Don't ask me how this dance so ancient has become sexualized in a demented way, with no life force. Not saying there is something wrong with that kind of energy, it just has all gone backward and become negative. Monkey porn, monkey dance, monkey this.
This film is no way monkey at all...it's a masterpiece.
So now a person who sees this may only think of it in the current demented sexualized program we have now. But she definitely is using a sexual energy for completely different purposes, other than what it is only used for today, reproduction and even worse to brainwash folks with.

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I got this Dvd film of an acquaintance, which i just watched, i was going to say its one of the best films I've seen, but in my own viewpoint , the last piece of narration was a mistake by the maker and detracts from the stories accumulating power which should have ended at an obvious scene for me , but nevertheless ,as I'm no expert Razz its definitely worth a watch , but i recommend watching alone and it requires full concentration from beginning to end on the subtitles , classic tale of the dynamic developing individual being confronted with the static societal duties and expectations , honour , values, love etc the good thing about this one is, no western conditioned mind can ever anticipate the exact road this tale weaves


The Twilight Samurai - just noticed it is uploaded onto google

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8308801640490101553

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Post  highnoon on Wed 11 Apr 2012, 17:19



I recommend In Bruges.

i have nothing but praise for this film, however, i actually stopped watching during the first 10-15 minutes because i felt collin farrel was being too immature and wrote this movie off as some trying too hard to be funny silly hitman movie or something. then it occured to me i didnt even know what the plot was and that my issue is a nuance and i cant write off a movie as bad that gets 8.0 on imdb which is a very high rating. so i went back and a few minutes later, the tone got darker, ironic hilarity was occuring, and collin farrel was wrestling with inner demons over something he does which becomes the major plot point for the film, and keeps him in a darker state which is better for him, because for me i dont much like his comedic acting skills.


Kapis this is one for you especially, because the entire movie is a purgatory for the characters and there is a lot going on metaphorically and with the humour.

You'll really get a kick out of a particular scene that occurs in the park with collin farrel sitting on a bench. thats all i can say about the scene unfortunately. have to keep it vague. but its a very smart scene. i laughed out loud at the irony, irony has never made me laugh out loud before.


edit: sorry about the giant poster. everything looks small in google cache



The film has a great score as well

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Post  KapitanScarlet on Thu 12 Apr 2012, 00:41

because i felt collin farrel was being too immature and wrote this movie off

Ive had the opportunity to watch this film twice in the past, but sidestepped it due to the inclusion of farrel, even although i was planning a visit to bruges and was going to watch it for street views etc

Its not that i don't like farrel, I've watched some of his films including miami vice , the recruit and swat and sort of enjoyed some bits of them in a passing fast-food mode of experience that occasionally i fall prey too Razz
My problem with farrel is purely that i don't think he contains the required gravity for some of the demands of some parts that he's undertaken , and to use one of my acquaintances insights to elaborate on this , farrel performs his parts , but he does not often embody the part , the best actors embody the part they play , they don't just perform it, and that requires a certain quantity of matured reality experience and intelligence in conjunction with an instinct for taking something on that they feel innately attached too in an existential relationship
This is just my opinion , which may in itself , very well be laced with subconscious prejudice in me against some former pretty boy model turned actor having any chance of bringing me some new insight into the nature of unique being in its creative experience as opposed to my expectation of him just reproducing a well worn pretty boy track of smiley repetition but lacking any true revelation of the soul that would threaten to shift my assemblage point , although millions of young hussy would disagree with me there for sure ,as they sweat and pant at his every uuughhh, they just aint got no taste (:

But i am always ready to be surprised and still hold an open book on farrel, my feeling is that he's trying too hard to appear to be something that he has not quite earned yet through the kickass hole of real experience , which is the true grinder and shaper of character , the process can't b rushed.

But i will give it a try next time its coming around on the box

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Post  highnoon on Thu 12 Apr 2012, 07:34

my expectation of him just reproducing a well worn pretty boy track of smiley repetition but lacking any true revelation of the soul that would threaten to shift my assemblage point , although millions of young hussy would disagree with me there for sure ,as they sweat and pant at his every uuughhh, they just aint got no taste (:

if youre going to put it that way then thats kindof how i felt. pretty boy track of smiley repetition. (thats funny hehe.)

to plainly state what sucks about the beginning of the movie, or really just with collin farrel, is he acts and sounds like a leprechaun. big exageratted facial expressions, pouty lips or raised eyebrows, heavy irish accent, almost jim carry zany territory. the script goes beyond what his capacity for humour can do. (which is zero in my opinion)

its very annoying. but thankfully, bad things happen which put a dagger through the heart of this fake whimsical shit from him. he becomes suicidal infact and that becomes his character, a hitman contemplating suicide who was formerly a high spirited individual.

so it all works out for people like us and we can begin to enjoy the movie Smile
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