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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sun 14 Feb 2010, 22:47

A couple of Clips of Barry Dunfords Theory on the holy myths and folklores of Ancient Britain from his dvd Part 2 is actually part 1 and part 1 is part 2



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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sun 13 Jun 2010, 23:13

Extract from Vision of Albion. The Key to the Holy Grail (2008) by Barry Dunford

WAS THERE A FEMALE APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION?

A 19th century French researcher, Édouard Schuré, in his work The Great Initiates: A Study of the Secret History of Religions, first published in 1889, writes: "Women have a special place among Jesus' followers….Christ is the restorer and liberator of women, whatever Saint Paul and the Church Fathers may have said….Christ elevates her by restoring her mission of love and divination. The woman initiate represents the soul in mankind….that is, the power of Intuition, the loving and seeing faculty. The turbulent Mary Magdalene….became his most ardent disciple. It was she, according to Saint John, who first saw the divine teacher, the spiritual Christ, risen from his tomb. Legend has insisted in seeing in this ardent and believing woman Jesus' greatest worshipper, the initiate of the heart, and legend is not mistaken, for her story represents the entire regeneration of woman as desired by the Christ."

The spiritual role of women was also recognised in the pre-Christian Druid tradition. According to the Welsh bard, Edward Jones: "Beside the Druids, the Britons had Druidesses, who assisted in the offices of religion, and shared in the honours and emoluments of the priesthood. The Druidesses of Gaul and Britain are said to have been divided into three ranks, or classes." (The Bardic Museum of Primitive British Literature, 1802). The Rev. Richard Smiddy also writes: "It appears that females were, at one time, admitted to the order or fraternity of the Druids, and that they were appointed to fill certain offices in connexion with the oracles or suil-bheil. Hence, the name of sibyl or sibylla, of the Latins. A female of this class was called a bean-draoi, that is, 'a woman Druid'; and by the name was meant a priestess, prophetess, or enchantress….We have already seen that the suil-beal, that is, the sibyl, or oracle, was an institution of the Druids….It is stated that some of these oracles, or sibyls, uttered matters in connexion with the life of the future Redeemer." (An Essay on the Druids, the Ancient Churches and the Round Towers of Ireland, 1871). Interestingly, Dr. John A. Goodchild notes: "I have been working hard….at various old puzzles relating to the Mother-Church at Glaston….I am pretty clear of this, that from the establishment of that Church before the middle of the 1st century, a woman, always a Princess of the Royal Blood, was its Supreme Head and Nursing Mother, until she laid down her authority about the middle of the 6th century at an Irish Church Congress held under the presidency of Comgal of Bangor." (Ref. The Avalonians by Patrick Benham, 1993)

The canonical gospels of the New Testament record the presence of a number of women disciples around Jesus, especially Mary Magdalene. Could there have been a female apostolic succession which ostensibly has gone unrecorded in the official history books? In the Christian Gnostic texts Mary Magdalene is referred to as "the apostle to the apostles" and in France (ancient Celtic Gaul) she is known as the "apostle of Provence". There is also a tradition of another female disciple of Jesus called Lourda who founded Lourdes in France. Looking at the possible role of female Christian initiates within the Church of Christ, in some instances they may have been ordained under the title of Deaconess. Moreover, the Celtic female saints were often associated with holy wells and springs which could suggest a continuity with the pre-Christian Annat tradition relating to the mother Goddess Anaitis who may have been associated with lunar worship. In the ancient Pagan era the moon held priority to the sun in celtic devotion. In fact, the celtic calendar is lunar based. Interestingly, the gaelic celts saw the moon as masculine and the sun as feminine.

Examples of female Celtic Saints:

St. Etheldreda, a 7th century British saint, daughter of a British King. Married a King of Northumbria. Later became an Abbess founding a monastery at Ely in East Anglia on the site of the present cathedral.

St. Winifred (Gwenfrewi in welsh meaning radiant freda). Gwen can mean white, shining or holy. She was a niece of St. Beuno (6th century) who claimed descent from a relative of the Holy Family of Jesus. She was renowned for her healing well at Holywell in North Wales. On the seal of the cathedral chapter of St. Asaph, in Wales, she appears as an Abbess bearing a crozier which was a symbol of leadership and authority.

St. Ita (Ytha). Born in 480 A. D of noble descent in County Waterford, Ireland. She founded a monastic settlement at Killeedy (Cill Ide). She is said to have died in 570 A. D and was known as "the foster mother of the saints of Ireland", because she was a mother figure to several of Ireland's early saints, including St. Brendan. Her symbol was a cross with a heart at the centre of a small labyrinth.

St. Hilda (614-680 A. D). She was the niece of King Edwin of Northumbria. She studied the traditions of Celtic monasticism which St. Aiden brought from Iona. St. Aiden later appointed St. Hilda as an Abbess and she founded a monastery at Whitby in north Yorkshire. Archeological evidence shows that her monastery was in the celtic style with its members living in small houses for two or three people. She gained such a reputation for wisdom that kings and princes sought her advice.

St. Bega. A 7th century saint who came from County Down in Ireland to north Britain and apparently founded a small female religious community inspired by St. Aiden. Placenames link St. Bega with Cumbria, northern England, and the Scottish borders. She also associated with St. Hilda and St. Etheldreda.

St. Brigid or Brigit (453-523 A. D) who founded a monastery for both monks and nuns at Kildare in Ireland. She is said to be buried at Downpatrick together with St. Patrick and St. Columba, which clearly shows that St. Brigid was highly venerated in the early Celtic Church. It has been suggested that Kildare may have been the site of an earlier Druid seat of learning.

Like their male counterparts, all of these female saints were of royal and noble descent. Could they have been initiates of a Johannine Celtic Church? It may be of interest to note that traditionally St. John, together with the Virgin Mary and Mary Magdalene, was at Ephesus in Anatolia, Asia Minor, where there was a major mystery temple dedicated to Artemis, a moon goddess, whom the Greeks also called Diana. This Temple was one of the seven wonders of the ancient world. The Johannine mystery tradition may have incorporated an initiatic tradition which could have included women as well as men.

Women Deacons in the early Christian Church

In her Studies in Early Mysticism in the Near and Middle East (1931), Margaret Smith writes: "Asceticism and the monastic life found almost as many adherents among the women of the early Christian Church as among the men….Women held a high position in the early Christian Church; we note that St. Paul salutes fifteen women alongside of eighteen men. Women exercised the prophetic office, and Priscilla, whose name is twice mentioned before that of her husband by St. Paul, as if she held a more prominent position in the Church, was evidently a missionary and teacher of distinction, and it has been suggested, with some reason, that she was the writer of the Epistle to the Hebrews. The order of deaconesses (ministræ) is mentioned by Pliny, and there appears to have been an order of regular female ascetics, who formed an important part of the organisation of the Church in the first three centuries, and had their names enrolled on the list of church officials….The Acts of Paul and Thekla, written about A. D. 179, which appears to contain some genuine information about St. Paul, gives a prominent role to women, as prophetesses, and above all to the 'apostle' Thekla of Iconium, who is said to have baptised, and to have enlightened many with the word of God….Origen had a number of women pupils….Up to the end of the second century or later, women appear to have been prominent in the Christian Church as deaconesses, prophetesses, teachers and missionaries….Women seem, indeed, to have been in the majority, at least among the upper classes, in the early Christian Church, and in the persecution of Licinius, about A. D. 322, special prohibitions were directed against women, as if the emperor realised that the strength of Christianity lay in its women members."

Regarding the female 'apostle' Thecla, in her work The Lost Apostle (2006) Rena Pederson writes: "There are multiple examples of art honoring Thecla in Egypt….In Rome, scholars found a sarcophagus with a relief showing Paul and Thecla traveling together in a boat….A catacomb of St. Thecla can be found on the Via Ostiensis, not far from the burial place of St. Paul, and is mentioned in the seventh-century itineraries to the graves of the Roman martyrs. Santa Thecla also is the patron saint of Tarragona, Spain, and there are Iberian wall designs from the first century showing Paul preaching to Thecla….There appear to have been attempts to obscure Thecla's role in later years….One of the foremost Jesus scholars in the United States, John Dominic Crossan, of DePaul University, and Jonathan L. Reed, a leading authority on first-century Palestinian archaeology, recently brought to light an attempt to suppress the Thecla story. In their book In Search of Paul, Crossan and Reed tell of a cave that was discovered around 1906, high above the ruins of Ephesus. Just to the right of the entrance are two sixth-century images of St. Thecla and St. Paul. Both are the same height, an iconographic sign that they are of equal importance. Both have their right hands raised in a blessing gesture, again an iconographic sign that they are of equal authority. While the image of Paul was left untouched over the centuries, someone later scratched out the eyes and upraised fingers of the Thecla figure, erasing her blessing gesture….If both figures had been disfigured, Crossan and Reed point out, it could be chalked up as a random act of vandalism. But it was only the Thecla figure that was defaced. Paul remains as an authority figure. The woman is blinded and silenced. Crossan and Reed observe that 'even the cave's present name, 'St. Paul's Grotto,' continues the negation of female-male equality once depicted on the walls'."

During the early centuries A. D. the Celtic Church in the west tended to follow the traditional mode of worship of the Eastern Church (rather than the Roman Church). We find that St. Paul's letters mention a number of Christian women in the ministry by name and this was clearly the case with the Celtic Christian Church in Britain. St. Clement of Alexandria (150-215) testifies to women deacons, ascribing tasks to them that would still be entrusted to ordain women deacons centuries later: "The apostles, giving themselves without respite to the work of evangelism as befitted their ministry, took with them women, not as wives but as sisters, so that they might serve as their co-ministers, serving women living at home: by their agency the teaching of the Lord reached the women's quarters without arousing suspicion. We are also aware of all the things Paul prescribed on the subject of women deacons in one of the two letters to Timothy."

In the 2nd and 3rd centuries women continued to be involved in the apostolate. The Didascalia Apostolorum (c. 250 A. D), a pastoral handbook, urges Bishops to ordain men and women deacons. The Council of Nicea (325 A. D) witnessed to the existence of women deacons. The Greek Fathers of the 3rd, 4th and 5th centuries mention women deacons. The Apostolic Constitutions (380 A. D), another collection of pastoral directives, repeated the instructions on women deacons already found in the Didascalia. It also preserved the oldest known ordination rite for women deacons.

A 4th century tombstone in Jerusalem commemorates a deacon called Sophia. The Greek text reads "Here lies the servant and bride of Christ, Sophia, the (woman) deacon." In Cicilia, in modern Turkey, five tombs honouring the memory of women deacons have been found. In Jerusalem, four women deacons are recorded on tombstones and another four elsewhere in Palestine. The ancient calendar of saints for the Greek-Byzantine part of the church fixed feast days for 26 women deacons. They provide evidence for the impact women deacons had upon their local church communities. In Gaul (ancient France) we find women deacons such as St. Radegunde and St. Genevieve, the patron saint of Paris.

Some women deacons were nuns at the same time, often superiors of convents so that they could attend to the spiritual needs of their sisters. This may explain how in the West traces of the diaconate ordination were retained in the installation of prioresses and abbesses of some orders of women. The laws of Justinian more than once mention the men and women under the heading "men and women deacons". The Didascalia of the apostles (c. 250 A. D) was a pastoral handbook for bishops, presented as instructions left by the apostles. Originally composed in Greek it was translated into Syriac, Arabic and Latin. (Interestingly, in the Latin which is the only version available for this text, the term 'Diaconissa' appears.) This apostolic pastoral handbook states: "We assert that the ministry of a woman deacon is especially required and urgent. For our Lord and Saviour was himself served by women deacons, such as Mary Magdalene, Mary, the daughter of James and mother of Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee, along with still other women." The original Greek word for deacon meant "servant" and it was used as a term for both men and women. In Christian communities it indicated a special ministry to which persons were assigned by ordination.

As an interesting aside, the Rev. William Lee Ker, in his book Mother Lodge Kilwinning: the Ancient Lodge of Scotland, published in 1896, says that: "The Grand Deacons of Mother Kilwinning from 1642 to 1732 were to all intents and purposes the Grand Masters." We know that Kilwinning was at one time the site of a Culdee Community. Could the use of the term Deacon in this instance imply a possible continuity from the Culdee Christian Order to Scottish Freemasonry?

Finally, there is an interesting mosaic in the oratory of San Venanzio in Rome dated 642 A.D. which was made under Popes John IV and Theodorus, both Greeks by birth. The image shows the Virgin Mary, praying with her hands outstretched, apparently with two haloed female companions. Her main dress is a tunic. Her veil is part of the mantle. It covers her head and her upper body and flows down all the way to just above her ankles, revealing a tunic in front. Coming down from underneath her veil, but over the tunic, we can see a bishop's pallium marked with a cross. Women deacons wore their stole in the same way, but in their case two extremities would hang in front. (Ref. No Women in Holy Order? The Women Deacons of the Early Church by John Wijngaards, 2002)

Could there have been a female apostolic succession from the Virgin Mary just as there was a male apostolic succession ordained by her son Jesus? Could this perhaps have been written out of the ostensible historical records by male scribes acting under the instruction and supervision of a patriarchally dominated church? With the information to hand at present we can but speculate and wonder. We should also remember that a number of celtic royal saints, both male and female, claimed genealogical descent from the family of the Mother of Christ. This might also reinforce the notion of a possible hereditary right of succession. Hereditary succession was central to the Culdee communities and fifteen unbroken generations have been listed at Armagh, the ecclesiastical primacy of the Celtic church in Ireland. It is also possible that a female apostolic succession could have been founded on a family and hereditary basis from women who were directly related to the Holy Family of Christ.
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sun 05 Dec 2010, 12:27

This is one of the most important figures in british history although the english dont broadcast too much about his Scottish initiation , but this guys reign created major changes in the spiritual world



He was King James V1 of Scotland in 1567 whom then in 1603 became also King James 1 of England and Ireland when he inherited the crowns of england and so united the kingdoms of Scotland and England and he ruled until 1625 based himself in england after 1603 as it was the larger of the kingdoms .

Now this mother was responsible for major changes in the spirituality of Britain
He wrote a book called "Daemonologie" which approved of and encouraged witchhunting calling them slaves of satan. Scotland and England having a rich culture of witches

The other thing this guy was credited with initiating , was the british spiritual split from Rome and Geneva with the sanctioning of the KIng James Bible

There is a KJB trust formed , that next year in 2011 will celebrate the 400th year of what they refer to as the official text of the British Empire
http://www.kingjamesbibletrust.org/about-us
Patron Saint is Charlie Windsor

One other interesting aspect is that much of the old testament is said to have been translated in westminster abbey, in a room which is closed to the public knows as the Jerusalem Chamber
Westminster Abbey (unlike other churches) is under the direct control of the monarch
There are many many famous people buried there like issac newton etc



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Post  KapitanScarlet on Thu 07 Jul 2011, 22:16

Some thought provoking comments and quotes from Barry Dunford Regarding the Hu

The Wave of the Future
The Spiritual Truth of the Light and Sound Teachings and the Gospel of the Christ

In the ancient mystery schools there was always an inner and outer teaching, i.e. the esoteric and exoteric teaching. The innermost esoteric teaching was known as the Light and Sound – the inner sound or Word (Logos) of God. This esoteric corpus is clearly identifiable as the core of the mystery teachings in the Gospel attributed to St. John the Apostle. This Gospel commences “In the beginning was the Word” (Sound), and the writer then goes on to mention the Light, which is clearly secondary, as an outworking or effect of the primary Divine Cause which in Greek is called the Logos or Divine Word, a universal Sound Current which is at the heart of all creation and sustains all Life.

In his enlightening book Yoga and the Bible (1963), Joseph Leeming quotes the first verse of the Gospel according to St. John: ‘In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God’. and comments: “These moving and meaningful statements made by St. John in describing the Divine Word of God are among the best known in the entire New Testament. But it is safe to say that their true meaning is one of the least known of all facts in the entire teachings of the Bible....The Word of God is, and always has been the most important factor in the teaching of the Masters—of the teachings of Jesus as well as of the Masters of today. It is mentioned under different names in the scriptures of all the great world religions, though its meaning has been known to but few of the followers of these religions. The Hindu scriptures call it Anahat Shabd, or the Unstruck Music, and also Akash Bani, the Celestial Voice. Mohammedans call it Kalma, or Word, and Kalam-i-Ilahi, or Voice of God. Zoroaster speaks of it as Sraosha, meaning ‘the Sound from the Sky.’ The early Greek philosophers who had learned the spiritual secrets of India, refer to it as the Logos, while some called it the music of the spheres. Socrates speaks of it as an inner sound that transported him to realms of transcendent and divine beauty. The Masters of today call it Nam, meaning Name or Word (of God); and also Shabd, which means Sound, or more particularly, spiritual Sound. In the English language the Word is called the Sound Current or the Audible Life Stream....

“The Audible Life Stream is, as the Masters have pointed out, God’s ‘unspoken language’, and His ‘unwritten Word’. The term Sound Current is new to most western readers, and because of this fact, its identity with familiar terms used in the Bible must be made abundantly clear. The Sound Current is the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost of the Bible and is the same thing as ‘the Word’ spoken of by St. John....The Holy Trinity of the Church, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, is the Trinity of the Supreme Father, the living Master, and the Sound Current....Thus, to become ‘filled with the Holy Spirit’ is to hear and participate in the Audible Life Stream, to become absorbed in it and become one with it or one with God....There is an inspiring concept associated with the fact that the Master is one with the Supreme. This is that every man is a potential Saint, and is therefore potentially identical with God. He needs only development and realisation. To become one with the Father is the supreme goal of all human evolution, and the sole object of our being here on earth is that we may grow to the spiritual stature of the Masters, who are the true supermen. ‘Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in Heaven is perfect.’ Matthew 5:48. Men only require a living Master to help them to develop and reach this goal. They need but the light of Mastership in another man to kindle the light within themselves.”

Joseph Leeming continues: “The great Masters of all ages have all taught the same doctrine, the identical method of freeing the soul from the fetters of mind and matter and of entering the kingdom of heaven while still living on earth in the physical body. The Way that was taught by Jesus to his closest disciples is the Way that is taught today by the perfect living Masters. The Way is called here the path of the Masters or, because it is a scientific method of achieving continuous and certain spiritual progress and successively higher states of consciousness, it is called the spiritual science of the Masters....The spiritual science or yoga of the Masters, the doctrine of Him who sends the Masters to this world, is the supreme science of all sciences, for it deals with the ultimate truths of man’s nature and destiny, and the ultimate purpose of all human life. It teaches the student, by a method of guided scientific experimentation, how to make direct and permanent contact with his Creator. It is a science based on laws which, though they have always existed, are not generally known. And it is the greatest of all sciences, because it turns ordinary mortals into divine beings....No blind belief or blind faith is called for when one is following this path. As the student follows the instructions given by the Master at the time of initiation and subsequently, he obtains through his own inner experiences definite proof of his spiritual progress and positive confirmation of the truths enunciated by Jesus and all other great spiritual teachers.

“Many people in the western world who have heard or read of the path of the Masters have asked the pertinent question: what is its relation to Christianity? The answer is this: ‘the path is identical with Christianity, if by that term we mean the spiritual teachings of Jesus. The teaching of the Masters does not change with time. It is the same in the past, the present, and the future. The living perfect Masters of today teach precisely the same spiritual truths as those that Jesus taught when he walked the earth.’ The spiritual science of the Masters, however, is not Christianity, if by that term we mean the system of dogma and theology that was created by men other than Jesus during the centuries that followed his presence here on earth....In every instance, the esoteric teaching is not a man-made one, but a God-made one. For in each instance the founders of religions and the genuine Masters have taught, not their own doctrine, but the doctrine or system of Him who sent them to this world. And this is the age-old natural and perfect system designed by the Creator for the express purpose of liberating man from the bondage of the body and mind and enabling him to enter and enjoy the kingdom of heaven here and now as well as in the future. It is only the living Masters who can show us how to do this here and now, however, while all religions point to the hope of it after death.” (Yoga and the Bible)

In his six volume magnum opus, Treasury of Mystic Terms (2003), John Davidson records (vol. 3): “Shabd(a)....mystically, the Word of God, the Creative Word as the divine Sound, the Sound Current, the transcendent Melody, the creative Power, the source of all creation; also found in such expressions as anᾱhata Shabda and anhad Shabd (unstruck Sound), ᾱdi Shabd (primal Sound), mῡl Shabd (root Sound, essential Sound), Shabd Dhun (Melody of the Sound), Shabd Dhᾱrᾱ and Shabd ki Dhᾱr (Sound Current), sat Shabd (true Word), and so on....The Shabd is the active and creative Power of God. Every particle of the creation is in motion, vibrating. Without this motion, it could never exist. As physicists delve deeper into matter, they have discovered that the smaller the ‘particle’, the faster it appears to vibrate. Even an apparently inert stone moves and changes constantly within itself because of this vibration. The speed of this vibration is exceptionally rapid. Scientists acknowledge that they have no idea what keeps the physical creation in this state of perpetual motion. The Power by which creation is continually sustained and maintained in existence is unknown to science. Mystics say that this Power is the Shabd, the primal Vibration of God that projects the creation and keeps it in existence....the mind and soul, when concentrated and awakened inside, possess the faculty to hear this primal Vibration. This is the divine Sound, the true Cosmic Music. The inner faculties also see this celestial Power as light.”

Davidson further says: “The physical universe seems to be in perpetual motion, yet why and how this is so is a mystery. The mystics’ answer to this conundrum is that, underlying all the movement and multiplicity in creation, there is one primordial Vibration, present as the divine essence, not only within all things, but within all souls as well. This mystic Sound, also called the Sound Current or Sound of God, is the ever present, divine creative Power – the means by which the Supreme Being has projected His creation. It is this that gives life, power and movement to everything. The twentieth-century mystic, Maharaj Sawan Singh, writes: ‘This Sound or Melody pervades all. It is even inside stones and wood, as these are made up of atoms, and motion is inherent in them. Because of this motion, everything constantly undergoes change. The motion itself is the cause of change. In reality, everything is changing. This world changes every hour, every minute and every second. Whether we know it or not, a stone continues to change. There is motion in it. Sound is a necessary corollary of motion and, therefore, a stone is not free from the Sound. Both the bodies that we see and those we do not see are in motion. There is, therefore, Sound in all, and the Sound is the essence of all... This Melody pervades all and is the life and sustenance of all. This current of consciousness is very subtle. It requires equally subtle ears to hear it.’ (Philosophy of the Masters by Maharaj Sawan Singh)”

“He that hath ears to hear, let him hear” – Jesus the Christ. Interestingly, in Aramaic, the native language of Jesus, “The word for ‘hear’ can also mean an inner Sound or mystical vibration.” - Neil Douglas-Klotz, an Aramaic scholar (The Hidden Gospel: Decoding the Spiritual Message of the Aramaic Jesus, 1999)

The Light and Sound teachings were taught by Pythagoras, Plato, Socrates, Lao Tse, Jesus the Christ, the Sufi sages, Rumi and Hafiz, the Indian saints Kabir and Nanak, and more recently the 19th and 20th century Light and Sound Masters in India, including Sawan Singh Ji and Charan Singh Ji. Currently, the Light and Sound teachings are being taught in the West, under the name MasterPath, by Sri Gary Olsen, an American of Swedish descent. An objective investigation of the MasterPath teaching clearly reveals the present continuity of the Living Master tradition. Indeed, the close parallels between the recorded true teachings of Jesus the Christ and Sri Gary Olsen are remarkably striking. In fact, the core essence of both teachings are identical, revealing the one Divine spiritual truth which is consistent throughout the ages via the spiritual teachings of the true Light and Sound Living Masters.

Sri Gary Olsen writes: “The greatest detriment to most seekers can be summed up as a misunderstanding of the return of the Messiah, known as the second coming of Christ to the Christian, the return of the Maitreya to the Buddhist, the Lost Word to the Masons, or the Missing Tablet to the Hopi Indians. These groups all view this transcendental prophecy as an event that transpires at the end of this world, or a phenomenon that happens within time and space on this plane of action....The spiritual seekers of today, whether they embrace the Bible, the Koran, the Bhagavad-Gita, the Upanishads, the Talmud, the Shastras, or even the Adi Granth, are all following deceased Masters. Sustenance cannot be received from a dead Master any more than an infant can receive nourishment from a dead mother.” (The Divine Science of Light and Sound, vol. I, 2009). Clearly, as potential disciples, living human beings require a living master to instruct them, as opposed to dead or ascended masters who are unable to properly communicate the Divine spiritual truth to them.

“Those Masters of the past who have served the Divine in their respective missions have since left this theater of action, and they no longer hold the position of the Living Master. These illustrious souls who once served as the true Sons of God are no longer in a physical body, and thus are unable to reactivate the latent spiritual energies within the seeker today, for only a Living Master can do so. Those individuals who rely on ascended Masters lose much of the help and guidance available to them, for without a physical vehicle, their Master is vastly limited. The seeker must have a Living Master in order to be initiated into the cosmic mysteries. The Saints of the past gathered and initiated those souls who were ready for the ascent in their time, but now, centuries later and with ever-changing conditions, their reach is limited and without strength. The average spiritual seeker in the West is not accustomed to the need or requirement of a Living Master. In the East, this spiritual truth is ingrained into the consciousness from early youth through adulthood, but in the West, and especially in America, the general populace has relied mainly on the ascended Master, Jesus the Christ. Although Jesus did channel the Light and Sound Teachings on the physical plane two thousand years ago, He is unable to do so in the present. Therefore, it is easy to understand why Christianity cannot furnish the true seeker with the necessary requirements for commencing the inner journey back to God.”

Sri Gary Olsen further observes: “The world is never without a Living Master, though He may escape the public eye. There is always a Living Master present who has been chosen to represent and instruct those presently incarnated souls who have readied themselves through past efforts. When the student is ready, the Master will appear. You will be contacted through a book, friend, vision, dream, or some other avenue especially designed for you. Divine law demands that when the seeker is ready to hear about the Light and Sound Teachings, in whatever age, country, or body one finds oneself, one will be approached in some manner and informed of the upcoming journey....

“The Light and Sound Doctrine has its roots and origin within this Oneness of all life, unequivocally stating that the Teachings of the Saints were created by the Supreme Lord, not by humans. This Path was instilled within the bosom of each soul long before the existence of other paths, and even before the creation itself. The Light and Sound Teachings will be found to be incomparable and unparalleled in their composition and approach, easily transcending all relative and partial explanations of the riddle and mystery of not only oneself, but the entire cosmos as well. The highest spiritual luminaries known to our civilization, those of the past, present and upcoming future, are those who champion these Light and Sound principles of God. Such visionaries as Plato, Socrates, Plutarch, Jesus, Hafiz, Rumi, Tabriz, Nanak, Kabir, Seth Shiv Dayal Singh, Sawan Singh Ji, and Charan Singh Ji, to list a few, have all trumpeted the Light and Sound Teachings as being the highest of all, each one teaching and practicing the same principles.” (The Divine Science of Light and Sound, vol. I, 2009)

The following poetic and spiritual verses are indicative of the Sound teaching of past Light and Sound Masters:

“Great music is faintly heard;
Great form has no contour;
And Tao is hidden without a name.
It is this Tao that is adept at lending (its power)
and bringing fulfilment.
(Lao Tzu, c.6th century BC, Tao Te Ching)

"All music, based upon melody and rhythm, is the Earthly representation of heavenly music." (Plotinus, c.205-270 AD)

“The voice of God is coming
into my (spiritual) ear like an echo.
(Rumi,1207-73 AD, Masnavi )

“Seek the Sound that never ceases, seek the sun that never sets” - Rumi

“I possess no sound sweeter than the song of love,
that eternal melody orbiting this dome.”
(Hafiz, 1326-1390 AD)

“Only he who rejoices in the primal Sound (Nad bindu)
can be called a devotee of the Lord.”
(Kabir, c.1398-1518 AD, Shabdavali I)

“The divine Music flows out ceaselessly.” - Kabir

“Close your eyes, your ears and your mouth,
and listen to the Anhad (unstruck) Shabd” - Kabir

Writing in the early 17th century, Robert Fludd (1574-1637), a Christian mystic and alchemical cabalist, also indicates an awareness of the Divine Sound current: “The world is exterior, God interior; and there is nothing more interior or more present than he. He is inside everything, since all things are in him, and outside everything, since he is above all things. We should therefore pass beyond ourselves, ascending from this world to God as if struggling up from below. For to ascend to God is to enter into oneself, and not only to enter oneself but to pass, in an ineffable way, through one’s own center. Hence Mercurius Trismegistus says: ‘Whoever transcends by passing inward and penetrating within himself, he truly ascends to God’....The soul, once the elemental parts have returned to their home, having nowhere to exercise its energies, rests from all the motions by which it used to move the body in time and space. For the instrument may perish, but the melody [Divine Sound current] does not perish, nor that which set the instrument in motion.” (Utriusque Cosmi Historia, 1617)

As mentioned, the Light and Sound spiritual teachings were the innermost teaching of the genuine ancient mystery schools. Outwardly, this was known as the ‘disciplina arcana’ and this esoteric teaching can be found in some of the apocryphal Gnostic texts. For example, the Askew and Bruce Coptic codices. According to Godfrey Higgins in his 19th century tome, Anacalypsis, “The [early] Christians had an esoteric and an exoteric religion”, and under the heading Disciplina Arcana, Robert McCoy writes: “The name given to the secret ritual and practices of the first Christian Church....The ancient documents known as the ‘Apostolical Constitutions and Canons’ often speak of the Disciplina Arcana, or secret discipline of the most ancient church.” (A Dictionary of Freemasonry, 1869). Furthermore, John W. Wright, a 19th century American researcher, makes the observation: “There are several passages in the Holy Scripture which convey the idea that some great secret....was communicated to the apostles by Jesus during the time that he was associated with them in the flesh. All the early ‘Christian Fathers’, and a great many modern divines of high standing, believe that the ‘secret’ was made known to the apostles, with the explicit understanding that it was to be handed down to the heads of the Church until the end of time.” (Curious Facts, Myths, Legends, and Superstitions concerning Jesus, 1894)

Moreover, Benjamin Walker writes: “From the very beginnings of the new Church there was a body of doctrine stemming from John to whom, it was said, the true secrets of Christianity had been communicated by Jesus. This teaching was strongly tinged with gnosticism. The Apocryphon of John, or the secret book of John, purports to reveal the ‘mysteries concealed in silence’ that Jesus taught him. The book was cited by Irenaeus, and a version of it was also found at Nag Hammadi. Many gnostic schools claimed the canonical gospel of John as a work embodying their own doctrines, and used it as a primary source of their teachings....It presents a mystical rather than a historical Jesus, with concepts derived from Alexandrian philosophy.” (Gnosticism: Its History and Influence, 1983)

Furthermore, Joseph Leeming notes: “Every religion has two aspects—the outer or exoteric, and the inner or esoteric. The history of religions shows us that in the beginning each one centred about a spiritualised Godman or Master, one who was in close and constant unity with God. To him was given the mission of preaching the doctrine, and the power of bringing his followers into touch with the inner reality, of teaching them how they could rise up, enter the kingdom of heaven, and commune with their Creator. This esoteric form of the teachings continued as long as the Master or his spiritually advanced successors were on earth to teach and guide spiritual seekers. But when the leadership passed into the hands of those who were less spiritually advanced, and lost the spiritual presence and power of the God-man who was the original preceptor, the path lost the power of giving its followers direct and conscious contact with their Creator. Thereafter, by degrees it became largely a matter of creeds, dogmas, prayers, rites and ceremonies. Entering the kingdom of heaven then became largely a hope that might be realised after death, rather than a definite and vital personal experience here and now, made possible by the spiritual power of the living Master.” (Yoga and the Bible)

In his illuminating translation and commentary of the early Gnostic texts, the Askew and Bruce Coptic codices (2nd century AD), historical researcher Christian O’Brien writes: “The titles, Mystical Discourses and The Path of Light have been used by the present translator because the earlier, titles of Pistis Sophia and The Books of Jeu were found to be inappropriate to the overall subject matter....The difference between the present translation and its august predecessors lies in its Mystical interpretation. The earlier translations adopted an ecclesiastical, or academic, Christian interpretation which largely ignored their Gnostic antecedents; and this orthodox approach led to many unintelligible passages with limited spiritual value. This unacceptable treatment inspired G.R.S. Mead to write his scholarly Fragments of a Faith Forgotten; but, even he, was unable to see clearly through the mist of phraseology that tends to obscure many Gnostic spiritual documents. When this mist is cleared, The Path of Light can be seen as a treatise on Spiritual Truths, consonant with the tenets of Surat Shabd Yoga [the union of soul with the Divine Sound Current]; and as revealing the narrator—Jesus of Nazareth—as the Perfect Living Master of his time.”

Christian O’Brien continues: “On the Mount of Olives, in the weeks after his Crucifixion, Jesus was preparing for his final departure from this World. He had selected twelve men, and a number of women, to form his Inner Circle of Disciples. These Apostles, as they became known, had to be taught the Spiritual Truths in the greatest detail, and had to be shown the secrets of the Higher Spiritual Planes, so that they could be deemed ‘Saints’ and be capable of continuing his work on Earth after his departure....This esoteric knowledge, which was the real substance of Jesus’s Teachings, is stated, in this record, to have been taken down, word by word, by three disciple-scribes—Philip, Thomas and Matthew....Jesus stated: ‘Listen Philip, you Blessed One. It is to you that I have said these words, because you and Thomas and Matthew are the hands to which it is given—by the authority of the Supreme Being—to write down all the words that I shall speak, together with all the things that I shall do; and everything that you will see’....

“In his three years of ministry, Jesus taught at two levels. His expositions in the Synagogues; in the ‘market-place’; and to the greater outer-body of disciples, form the substance of what has been called the Synoptic Gospels. Important as these are, they are greatly overshadowed by the deeper and wider, Mystical Discourses given in private to his Inner Circle of Disciples, at the close of his Mission on Earth. These Discourses were known to the Gnostic Schools of Valentinus and Basilides, and were probably collated, and edited, by them; but the fierce opposition of the early Christian Church in the second century A.D. led by Bishop Irenaeus of Lyons in Gaul, whose See was far from the main centres of Gnostic Teaching (such as Alexandria)—led to the suppression of this very important record.”

O’Brien further comments: “The author of the Mystical Discourses has taken great pains to establish the authenticity of what he is writing—and this is of great importance to this study. He stresses that he has three witnesses, writing everything down, at every teaching session....The use of Philip, Thomas and Matthew as scribal-witnesses would have been accepted as proof of authenticity among the early Gnostic readers of the Mystical Discourses, and gives credence to the claim that these Discourses are the true Gnostic New Testament recorded some six decades before the first Synoptic Gospel. The fierce opposition to the Mystical Gnostic Teachings in about the penultimate decade of the second century A.D., led by Bishop Irenaeus of Lyons in Gaul, led to the ultimate suppression of this important record.”

Quoting the above mentioned Gnostic texts, which internally claim to have been recorded by members of the inner circle of Jesus, Christian O’Brien translates the following spiritual sayings attributed to Jesus: “Now, listen my disciples, and companions and brothers, when I urge you to seek the Knowledge of the Shabd Mystery [spiritual Sound Current] of the Ineffable One.”

“The mystery of the Ineffable One is the Shabd Mystery which is in all these things; and it is the only Mystery of the Ineffable One. It is the Knowledge of all these things of which I have told you, and of those which I still have to tell you....It is the one and the same Nam of the Ineffable One....He who receives the Supreme Nam of that Mystery with all its variations, all its forms and characteristics, and its whole organisation, receives the totality of its Mystery. I shall now speak to you of this because you are the fulfilment of all perfection, and you will complete all your knowledge of that Shabd Mystery, and all its management, because you are to be entrusted with all Initiations.”

“The Soul which has received the Shabd Mystery of the Ineffable One, will ascend to the Height, being a great outpouring of light....Truly, I say to you that every man who receives the Shabd of the Ineffable One, and is familiar with all its forms and characteristics, he is a man in the World; but he is superior to all the Angels; and he will become much superior to them all....He is a man in the World, but he is not of the World....And, truly, I say to you: The man is I and I am that man.”....“And all men who have received Initiation from the Ineffable One will become fellow-Rulers with me....because of this, I have not refrained, nor been ashamed, to call you my Brothers and Companions. These things I say to you, now, knowing that I shall give you the Secret of the Ineffable One, namely that: The Shabd is I, and I am that Shabd.”

“Seek and you will find; knock and it will be opened to you. For every one who seeks in truth, will find; and to him who knocks it will be opened.” (The Path of Light, 1999)

Writing in the 21st century, Sri Gary Olsen says: “There is a vast difference between what Jesus Christ literally stated and what the religious historians have attributed to Him. There is equal disparity between what Jesus Christ actually meant and what has been interpreted through the minds of religious authorities spanning the past two thousand years....Jesus Christ’s original Teachings were pure, and as a genuine Master of Light and Sound, He expounded on the Light and Sound principles throughout His mission....There is also biblical scripture which confirms the spiritual mantle being passed from John the Baptist to Jesus, and then from Jesus to Peter, verifying the Light and Sound principle that there is an ongoing line of Masters, and that there is always at least one true Master present in the world. Jesus confirmed this same principle in part when He said, ‘As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world,’ clearly suggesting that His divine mission lasted only as long as His earthly incarnation. Regarding the principle of reincarnation, Jesus made it lucidly clear while talking to His disciples that Elijah had returned, and was now known as John the Baptist. Any logically thinking individual can surmise what this literal statement means.

“The text of the Bible is comprised of mere paper and ink, while the Word, or the Sound Current, is the Power that actually created all things. A close study of John 1:1 reveals this great truth, for it qualifies the differentiation between the Holy Bible and God’s Holy Word, or Sound Current. Interestingly enough, this very point lies at the core of the inevitable fate of all religions, because when their founding Saint departs, shortly thereafter the relevant scriptures are unwittingly used as a substitute for the live Presence of the absent Saint. The beauty and eloquence of these holy scriptures is unquestionable, and the wisdom within the parables so universal and enlightening, but the scriptures still remain a sterile and empty shell when directly compared to the illuminating and life-giving forces of the actual Presence of the founding Saint.” (Soul’s Divine Journey, 2010)

In his book “With a Great Master in India (1934) Julian Johnson says: “More than one Christ has come into the world and some of them are still in the body carrying on their great work. The same need and the same divine love that brought one, has brought a long succession of them. The same great Father who sent one noble son to Bethlehem has sent a great number of them to many lands and in many ages. In fact the world is never without at least one of them.”
Maharaj Sawan Singh


Dr. Julian Johnson, a former American surgeon, and Initiate of the Light and Sound Master, Maharaj Sawan Singh, goes on to record his personal experience of meeting this Saint in India: “For years and years I wished I might have been with Jesus when he was on earth, to have been his disciple, following him over those Judean hills and down to Galilee and Jerusalem, watching his gracious ministry and, if possible, giving some loving service. Often in years long passed, the thought haunted me day and night. But never did I imagine it would be my good fortune to have that wish gratified in substance. But now I have only to transfer the scene from Palestine to India and change the date, and in this good year of 1933 I am walking daily by the side and sitting at the holy feet of the great living Master....

“Today I feel a sense of pity for the masses who do not appear to realize what a priceless privilege might be theirs. They are letting the golden opportunity slip by them. They do not seem to understand now, any better than they did in the days of Jesus, that a great Master is among them. They are so blinded by the god, or gods, of this world that the great light which now shines among them is quite invisible to them. Truly the light is shining into the darkness and the darkness does not comprehend it. Perhaps two thousand years from now, many who read the history of our Master may look back with longing and wish they had lived in his day, so that they might have seen him and might have become his disciples. But some of my American friends will say, ‘Yes, but your Master in India is not Jesus. He is only a mere man, while Jesus was the son of God.’ Both of these assertions are due to theological misconceptions. Jesus himself never thought that he was anything above and beyond the possibilities of other men. In fact, he taught the exact contrary. Get the New Testament and read his own words, not the words of Paul, the theologian. There is not a word in the New Testament, except perhaps one or two interpolations, in which Jesus makes any claim to an exclusive, divine sonship. Such a thing was never thought of until long after his death.

“But let us say he was a son of God in a special sense. Divine sonship is the goal of all spiritual aspirations....If Jesus became a divine son, other men can become divine sons. Why any set of theological speculators should ever limit that sonship to only one man in all human history still remains one of the mysteries. This divine sonship is exactly what makes a man a true Master. All Masters are sons of God in a special sense. They have risen to heights of spiritual unfoldment and have united their human attributes with those of the supreme one, and thus they have attained divine sonship. They are then no longer sons simply in the sense of having been created by God, but they are sons by virtue of having united their spiritual essence with that of the supreme Father. Aye, they are even more than that; they are practically identical with the Father, because of this oneness. There is no difference between them, except that the Master still resides here in the human form. This is the ultimate goal of Mastership. But it is a goal toward which all men may look, if they make themselves Masters, after the example and pattern of their own Master. It must ever be borne in mind that mastership and divine sonship are not limited to one individual on this planet, but it is an achievement within the reach of an unlimited number, running through all the ages of human history.” (With a Great Master in India)

The following comments by a German former cloistered Benedictine nun, who subsequently was initiated into the Light and Sound teachings in India, support the continuity of the incarnated Christs (the Word made flesh) throughout human history as the true representatives of the Supreme Divinity: “In his human form, however, Jesus Christ could reach only his contemporaries, but not the generation coming before or after him. What about those who had lived outside the short period when Jesus was on earth?...God has to send his Son again and again into the world, so that as a Christ he can show the way back to the Father to those souls that are allotted to him. The Word must take human form, because only in this form can he proclaim the message of the kingdom of God and redeem the souls. If it was necessary once that the Son of God, his Word, should come to earth, then it would always be necessary....The Masters of the highest order, true Masters like Jesus Christ, are incarnations of the one Word. In this way each Master is universal....the universal Christ is transhistorical and pre-existent to his incarnation as Jesus of Nazareth. This pre-existence refers not only to his eternal being as the Word of God, but also to his position as a Christ, the anointed one....In many of his self-testimonies, Jesus Christ transcends his earthly personage, indicating the mystery of his timeless existence, as for instance when he says ‘Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am’....

“Jesus revealed himself as the one pre-existent to his birth, as the one who descended from heaven: Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
On many pages of The Gospel According to Saint John, we can read similar self-testimonies of Jesus Christ. His most important statement is probably: ‘I and my Father are one.’ In another instance Jesus says: ‘No man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son.’ Even in the face of death, Jesus still testifies that he was in the glory of the Father, which he had with him ‘before the world was’....

“The Masters also emphasize that these messengers of God, on the highest level of consciousness, are all one – they are the Word. Equally, the Masters insist that all the Masters of the highest order teach the same truth....According to the teachings of the Masters, since the death of Jesus Christ many other incarnations of the divine Word have come down to contact the souls in this creation and to be instruments of the supreme Lord’s mercy, just as they did before Jesus. God sends all these saviours to earth to manifest his divine love for humankind.” (Adventure of Faith, 2009, by Shraddha Liertz)

To again quote Joseph Leeming: “The real work of each Master on this earth plane lasts only during his lifetime here in a human body, and ends with the end of that human lifetime. The Master assumes human form in order to do a particular work which he could not do without that form. This work is to initiate and guide the seekers who are ready for the spiritual path at the time that the Master is on earth. When the earth life of a Master ends, his work on the earth is finished, just as the work on earth of anyone else is completed. The Master continues to guide his disciples from the higher realms. But he does not initiate more disciples. That work is carried on by his successors....It is not possible for a Master who left this earth many years ago to initiate present-day disciples and give them the training and guidance they need to make steady progress on the spiritual path. This is true, not because the Masters’ powers are limited but because human beings are limited. The Master has all the powers of the Supreme Father, at whose behest and as whose agent in the divine plan he comes to this earth. For a Master to contact us, however, and talk with us and teach us, he must assume human form. We cannot receive what he wishes to give unless he is in a human body, and can therefore communicate with us. The living Masters who now carry on the Father’s work are the modern Christs, the elder brothers and saviours of mankind.”

Leeming goes on to say: “The spiritual power of the Holy Spirit of the Supreme Father needs an outlet, a focus through which it can pass to the mind and soul of man if he is to be awakened to spiritual truth. The Spirit is everywhere present, but it must be concentrated through a special outlet to be effective on the earth plane. Electricity exists, but until it is converted and concentrated through a generator it will not flow through the wires and become effective light and power. It is the same with the Word or Holy Spirit; it must use a channel or wire through which to flow and reveal itself to those who want its light. If it is to help human beings to start the upward journey to their eternal home, it must find an outlet through another human being. Accordingly, God uses his special sons, the Masters, as the channels through which His power can flow to the seekers among mankind. As Jesus said: ‘It is not I, but my Father which is in heaven which doeth these things’....To obtain knowledge of God we must necessarily go to one who knows God’s science and is himself proficient in it. It is only the person who has a conscious experience or realisation of God who can impart God-knowledge. Within the Master there is the one great power of God, and through him human beings can reach that power. Inwardly, the Master is at one with the universal spirit, and is entrusted with the mission of bringing individuals into direct contact with God.” (Yoga and the Bible)

Interestingly, there have been a number of theories advanced as to the true nature of the Holy Grail. Is it a cup? Is it a stone? Is it a secret book of hidden knowledge? Indeed, is it an external object at all, or are there internal ramifications? Could there be an inner spiritual dimension to the Holy Grail?

According to Sri Gary Olsen: “The Sound Current existed before anything existed, and will continue to exist when nothing appears to exist anymore. It is the unmanifest manifested, the Holy Grail, the divine elixir, the proverbial philosopher’s stone, and the supreme Life Force of the entire creation....references to the Sound Current have been made in every culture, religion, and spiritual endeavor known throughout human history, having been termed the Word in Christian scripture, the Naad and Sruti in Vedic writings, the Shabda and Nam in Yogic Doctrine, the Path of Aton in Egyptian literature, the Udgit in the Upanishads, the Bani in the Hindu Shastras, and other qualitative names such as the Sraosha coined by Zoroaster of Persia, and the Kalma of the Sufi mystics.”

Sri Gary Olsen also says: “This wave of Light and Sound is literally God making itself known to all Its children. It is God’s language, God’s Voice, and It contains all that God has ever created. It is audible and visible to the inner spiritual senses – when you hear It, you hear the Voice of God, and when you see It, you witness the Light of God....By studying this wave of Light and Sound, the seeker is familiarizing oneself with the creation and its modus operandi....This Shabda, or the living Word, is the whole of the Divine Being in action. It is God in action, as distinguished from God as the Divine Being....This Current can be visualized as a gigantic circular wave spewing forth in all directions at once, much like the ripples from a pebble landing in a pond. When the seeker is initiated into this Current great events begin to happen, for upon this wave of God all divine qualities come into manifestation....The Audible Life Stream is the gift that the Living Master has to offer, which is nothing short of finding the Holy Grail, and It is graced only upon the reactivation of the life impulses through receiving initiation into the cosmic mysteries of the Divine.”
(The Divine Science of Light and Sound, vol. I, 2009)

Regarding the spiritual perspective of the Grail theme, Anna Morduch relates: “The Grail, the Gra-al or Gra-el, the vessel of the divine, belongs to all time and all nations, and though the way of approach to it may differ according to the period, it is essentially always the same. The quest is the finding of the kingdom within, and this is not a vague and unworldly fairy-tale but an exact science taught by every one of the great teachers, the inner core of all revealed religion. The search of the alchemist, the magnum opus, is still the great work of our day, as much or more needed than ever before - the transformation of natural man into hu-man, the enlightened man. (Hu is the Celtic God of light, and the sacred sound of hu is practised in esoteric teaching in various schools.) When man is human and knows his body as the temple of God he becomes the servant of his fellow men.”(The Sovereign Adventure, 1970)

In his treatise entitled Druidism (1871) the Rev. John Williams remarks: “The Bard shows us the Christian development of the old Druidic religion, as, in speaking of the resurrection of Jesus, he says: ‘On the third day was the resurrection of Hu’, intimating that Jesus was the same as He who was regarded as God in the creed of the Druids, and whom they sometimes called Hu.” Williams also says: “The Bards themselves admit very clearly and positively that Christianity was, as it were, but the fulfilment of Druidism, the old religion brought into perfection.”

The Sufi sage, Hazrat Inayat Khan, also comments on “the hu, the most sacred of all sounds. This sound hu is the beginning and the end of all sounds....The supreme being has been called by various names in different languages, but the mystics have known him as Hu (Arabic), the natural name not man-made, the only name of the Nameless, which all nature constantly proclaims. The sound hu is most sacred....The word hu is the spirit of all sounds and of all words, and is hidden under them all, as the spirit in the body. It does not belong to any language, but no language can help belonging to it. This alone is the true Name of God, a Name that no people and no religion can claim their own....This is the Word mentioned in the Bible as existing before the light came into the world: ‘In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.’....It is said in the old traditions that Zoroaster was born of a huma tree. This explains the words in the Bible: ‘Except a man be born of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God’ (John 3:5). In the word huma, hu represents spirit, and the word mah, in Arabic, means ‘water’. In English the word human reminds us of two facts which are characteristic of humanity—hu means ‘God’, and man means ‘mind’, which comes from the Sanskrit manah, mind being the ordinary man. In other words, Hu, God, is in all things and beings, but it is only man by whom he is known, or who is capable of knowing him. Human, therefore, means the God-conscious being, God-realized, or the God-man.” (Mysticism of Sound, 1923)

Interestingly, HU is considered a sacred mantra in the MasterPath Light and Sound spiritual teachings. Sri Gary Olsen writes: “The HU sound is actually the primal Sound, or Word, of creation. It issues forth from the Godhead Itself. All sacred scripture from the Vedas and Upanishads to the Buddhist Sutras, and even the Bible, refer to and describe the Sound Current. It is what Pythagoras called the ‘music of the spheres.’ Plato spoke of experiencing this Sound Current as well.” (Introduction to MasterPath, 2005)
Jesus the Christ Sri Gary Olsen


“And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw his glory, a glory like that of the firstborn of the Father, full of grace and truth.” –
Gospel according to St. John ch.1 v14 (Aramaic New Testament – Lamsa translation)

Two millennia ago, Jesus the Christ, the then true Living Master in the East, heralded the spiritual wave of the Piscean Age. Now, in the 21st century, Sri Gary Olsen, the present true Living Master, established in the West, heralds the new zodiacal cosmic wave of the Aquarian Age. From their innate true spiritual teachings can be discerned a direct continuity between these two spiritual living masters, as there is with the Piscean and Aquarian zodiacal ages.

Sri Gary Olsen writes: “The twenty-first century is seeing the true Teachings of Light and Sound emerge in America, and this ancient and direct Path back to Self and God Realization has been contemporarily coined the MasterPath for two simple reasons. First, the shining goal of all spiritual pursuit is the attainment of your own Mastership, and second, the means of accomplishment involves the discovery of the sacred Path that undeniably lies within your own inner consciousness. Each and every living being has the sacred Path situated within them. You are the way, the truth, and the life. For these reasons, this Divine Teaching is called MasterPath, for you are the Master and you are the Path. The truth that you seek is within you, and so too is the Kingdom of Heaven, as all past and present Masters have unanimously declared....The crowning glory of all spiritual pursuit is for the individual to become a Saint oneself rather than worshiping at the feet of the Saints, to become the living embodiment of truth rather than searching for it in the ancient spiritual scriptures, and to realize that one’s own body is literally the temple of God, not the holy shrines and architectural wonders of the world.” (Soul’s Divine Journey, 2010)

Sri Gary Olsen further observes: “The great Carl Jung felt and verbally expressed that dogmatic religion is the ego’s last ditch effort to escape the true spiritual experience.” (The Divine Science of Light and Sound, vol. I , 2009). The many allegedly spiritual doctrines that come under the umbrella of the so-called New Age religions and psychic practices (in effect a psychic upgrade of the Old Age religious dogmatic paradigm), also fall within this same limited parameter of consciousness, though many of their adherents may be hard pressed to recognise this to be true.

If God, the Supreme Deity, is infinite, then what can possibly co-exist with God. This would, of course, include human beings. So if humans cannot, and in fact do not, co-exist with the Divine Reality, then what are we left to conclude? Is it any wonder that all the genuine Masters of spiritual truth have proclaimed that the Kingdom of God is within you. What could possibly supersede such an internal Divine Holy Grail? Clearly, Jesus the Christ was aware of this inner Divine Reality with the conscious realisation of His individual spiritual sovereignty: “I am the Way the Truth and the Life”. The only difference between the enlightened Christ and unenlightened humanity is that Jesus knew who He was and we, as yet, do not. The mission of all the true Living Masters has always been to help those souls, who were sufficiently ready to engage in applying the Light and Sound teachings in their lives, to ultimately become truly Self realised and aware of their own innate Christ nature of spiritual Mastery.

In contradistinction to what are called the Canonical Gospels or scriptures, within the greater universal Canon of Truth and Righteousness all things are known and all things are revealed according to Divine spiritual truth. A proper study of the Light and Sound teachings reveals this to be so.

“But the time is coming, and it is here, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father also desires worshippers such as these. For God is Spirit; and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”
(Gospel according to St. John, ch.4 v.23-24, Aramaic version, Lamsa translation)

“For what else is Christ, but the Word, the Sound of God?”
(Apocryphal Acts of Peter)

Recommended reading:

“Soul’s Divine Journey” by Sri Gary Olsen.
“MasterPath: The Divine Science of Light and Sound” vol. I by Sri Gary Olsen
Available from MasterPath: www.masterpath.org

“With a Great Master in India” by Dr. Julian Johnson.
“Yoga and the Bible” by Joseph Leeming.
“Adventure of Faith” by Shradda Liertz.
Available from Science of the Soul Research Centre: www.scienceofthesoul.org

“The Path of Light” by Christian O’Brien
Available from The Golden Age Project: www.goldenageproject.org.uk/path.php

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Re: The Jesus Story

Post  seraphim on Fri 08 Jul 2011, 05:03

“Seek and you will find; knock and it will be opened to you. For every one who seeks in truth, will find; and to him who knocks it will be opened.” (The Path of Light, 1999)
What a nice quote Kapis.

In the bits and pieces of the creation stories I've read, the first angels used sound to do their creation part. And then things changed and other kinds of souls were created. Don't know if the first angels could evolve themselves because they couldn't experience like people can.

And it's interesting what Gurdjieff says. From what I read and in my opinion it seems that God, the one he believes in, does not want us to be individuals. And that there is a place out there called Purgatory that highly evolved souls go to in order to purify themselves so they can all be like that God. These souls are dirty or bad because they use their own songs to become their own Gods. But for some reason that is not a good thing to do according to that author. It's too bad he thinks that way. But otherwise his books are real interesting because the evolving stages of folks.

I guess we are each given a song, got to find out what it is.

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Re: The Jesus Story

Post  Sputnik on Fri 08 Jul 2011, 11:10

Each human has their own unique electromagnetic signature which is is unique to their body alone. This creates the humans 'Aura'. Energy itself is eternal.

William Blake wrote:

As a new heaven is begun, and it is now thirty-three years since its advent: the Eternal Hell revives. And lo! Swedenborg is the Angel sitting at the tomb; his writings are the linen clothes folded up. Now is the dominion of Edom, & the return of Adam into Paradise; see Isaiah XXXIV & XXXV Chap:
Without Contraries is no progression. Attraction and Repulsion, Reason and Energy, Love and Hate, are necessary to Human existence.

From these contraries spring what the religious call Good & Evil. Good is the passive that obeys Reason. Evil is the active springing from Energy.Good is Heaven. Evil is Hell.

The voice of the Devil.
All Bibles or sacred codes have been the causes of the following Errors.

1. That Man has two real existing principles Viz: a Body & a Soul.
2. That Energy, call'd Evil, is alone from the Body, & that Reason, call'd Good, is alone from the Soul.
3. That God will torment Man in Eternity for following his Energies.

But the following Contraries to these are True

1. Man has no Body distinct from his Soul for that call'd Body is a portion of Soul discern'd by the five Senses, the chief inlets of Soul in this age
2. Energy is the only life and is from the Body and Reason is the bound or outward circumference of Energy.
3 Energy is Eternal Delight


It was christians who said the Dökkálfar are 'evil' and the Ljósálfar are 'good' .....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_elves

I really agree with William Blake with a minor "detail" complicating his simplified "man's body is part of his soul"...sort of..but I call it the little brother or little sister...as the body has it's own SPIRIT master, that which psychologists call the "unconscious mind"....it is acting independently (hearbeat, involuntary muscles, etc..) connected to us in the ladder of evolution, just as we are connected to an 'evolutionary aunt/uncle' we refer to as 'the higher self' or guardian angel (superconsciousness). In my worldview the human mind-body is a co-production...you need 'an angel' and 'a devil' to create a HUMAN BEING Cool
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Re: The Jesus Story

Post  seraphim on Fri 15 Jul 2011, 04:58

Hi Blackbird. Smile

William Blake must have had a true and good heart because he was labeled so cruelly by those inferior three brained beings. Smile
Hmm... maybe we are someone's silly pets afterall. And don't know any better.
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Post  Sputnik on Sun 17 Jul 2011, 01:30

@seraphim

I think the matter is like this: there is no "the others are cruel"

all that we perceive is in truth our own inherent duality. Therefore all are cruel, no matter what.

This is the tricky part with our perception.

We perceive cruelty in others but we (might) reject to admit this cruelty within ourselves.

In order to identify it in another (as Blackbird pointed out) we must first have our own knowledge of it.

So who is not cruel in the end? The point is to conquer duality by accepting the whole truth of oneself.
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Re: The Jesus Story

Post  Sputnik on Thu 21 Jul 2011, 13:38

A pretty neat summary of the historic battle: http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/5746/the_day_the_earth_stood_still.html
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sun 19 May 2013, 12:24

Pentecostal or even charisma (; - the fastest growing branch of christianism in the uk , (20 million in the usa ) it appears to occur (its anniversary) about 50 days after easter , hence the pent (5) connection

The day of Pentecost

Pentecostalism gets its name from the day of Pentecost, when, according to the Bible, the Holy Spirit descended on Jesus' disciples, leading them to speak in many languages as evidence that they had been baptised in the Spirit. Pentecostals believe that this was not a one-off event, but something that can and does happen every day.
Growing strongly

There are just under 1 million Pentecostals in the UK, and over 20 million in the USA. (March 2006)

During the last three decades of the twentieth century Pentecostalism grew very strongly and there are now over 250 million Pentecostals around the world, who make up more than 10% of all Christians. (Some writers suggest the number is more like 500 million.)

Pentecostalism is particularly strong in the developing world where it poses a serious challenge to other, more established, denominations.

Are Pentecostals fundamentalists?

Pentecostal churches aren't 'fundamentalist', although they're sometimes described as such.

Pentecostals share with Christian fundamentalists their acceptance of the status of the Bible as the inerrant word of God, but they also accept (which fundamentalists do not) the importance of the believer's direct experience of God through the work of the Holy Spirit.
Sanctification

A person is sanctified when their life is dedicated to God and they are separated from their past sinful life. When a person is sanctified, they are born again to Christ through the Holy Spirit and turn away from the bad behaviours and thoughts of their old life.

The word holiness is also used by some churches for this concept. Whatever the word, it is something that is essential to living a Christian life:

Some Pentecostals teach that believers must experience a once-for-all spiritual event which leads them to "consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus" Romans 6: 10-1. The work of sanctification is carried out by the Holy Spirit.

Other churches teach that believers continue to grow closer to God in a continual process of sanctification, which helps them to live a Christian life.

While some Pentecostals believe that sanctification is a necessary precondition for a person to be baptised in the Spirit, others believe that baptism in the Spirit is available to anyone who sincerely gives their life to Christ.

This distinction may be lost on non-specialists and it may be simpler just to say that Pentecostals believe that human beings must have come to salvation in Christ before they can receive the baptism of the Spirit.
Water Baptism

Pentecostal churches follow scripture in practising baptism by immersion. For Pentecostals water baptism is an outward symbol of a conversion that has already occurred. It is the conversion that is essential; the water baptism is an additional element.

Infant baptism is not practised in Pentecostal churches.

Child Dedication

Pentecostal churches do not baptise infants. They regard water baptism as an outward expression of an internal work of grace following an individual's choice to follow Christ. Young children are not able to make such a choice because they do not recognise their need for salvation.

Instead, infants in Pentecostal churches are dedicated to God and blessed. This remembers the Bible stories of young children being brought to Jesus to be blessed.

Some Pentecostal churches believe that most children can be ready for water baptism between the ages of seven and ten, and that parents or pastors are able to determine whether a particular child is able to understand the significance of water baptism by discussing it with them.
Baptism in the Holy Spirit

Baptism in the Holy Spirit is the central event of Pentecostalism. The name of the movement commemorates the first baptism in the Spirit, of Jesus' disciples on the day of Pentecost.

Baptism in the Spirit is not a conversion experience; a person must already have been converted before they can receive baptism in the Spirit.

Pentecostals believe that baptism in the Spirit is an essential part of salvation. Traditionally this is a second baptism that follows conventional water baptism, although some passages of scripture reverse this sequence.

Baptism in the Holy Spirit is an experience in which the believer gives control of themselves to the Holy Spirit (although not in a way in which they lose their own identity and autonomy). Through the experience they come to know Christ in a more intimate way and are energised with the power to witness and grow spiritually.

Spirit baptism is believed to be an action of God's grace, but one that is available only to people who put themselves forward to receive it:

Analogous with water baptism, a person baptised in the Spirit feels themselves to have been totally immersed in the Holy Spirit. But the analogy fails at that point, because a person who is baptised in the Spirit is also completely filled with the Holy Spirit, in the same way as the disciples of Jesus on the day of Pentecost.

The proof of having been baptised in the Spirit is speaking in tongues. Speaking in tongues is the only consistent event associated with baptism in the Spirit in the various Biblical accounts of the phenomenon.

Being filled with the Holy Spirit

Being filled with the Holy Spirit is not a temporary state of affairs; a person who has been baptised in the Spirit is believed to have the Holy Spirit within them to empower and guide them for the rest of their life.

The Assemblies of God puts it like this:
The Baptism is the entry experience introducing the believer to the beauty and power of the Spirit-filled life.
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The Holy Spirit will enable the believer to turn away from their old worldly life and live a new Christian life. As St Paul put it:

Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.

Ephesians 5:18

But as well as giving a new beginning to the believer, baptism in the Spirit gives them gifts of the Spirit which they are expected to use to bring others to faith, and generally to further Christian work.
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'Gifts' and 'ordinances'
The gifts of the Spirit are supernatural abilities given to believers by God. These gifts demonstrate the power of God and are used for particular purposes such as healing the sick, and generally helping the believer in their Christian ministry.

St Paul listed the gifts of the spirit as love, prophecy, healing, wise speech, faith, miraculous powers and ecstatic speech.

St Mark offered a different list:
In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.

Mark 16:17-18
Speaking in tongues

Speaking in tongues means speaking miraculously in a language unknown to the speaker, "as the Spirit gives utterance". It first happened to the disciples on the day of Pentecost.

Speaking in tongues can be either evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit, or a demonstration of the gift of tongues.

Theological texts also use the word glossolalia to refer to speaking in tongues. This word is sometimes restricted to ecstatic speech in non-existent languages.
Miracles

Pentecostals believe that God can and does work miracles today.
Sacraments

Pentecostal churches tend to avoid anything that might be seen as sacramentalism.

They do, of course, have rituals and ceremonies like communion and water baptism that other churches treat as sacraments, but Pentecostals refer to these as ceremonies or ordinances. Ordinances, like sacraments are visible representations of invisible realities.
Foot washing

Some Pentecostal churches practise foot-washing as an ordinance of humility in their services. In doing so they follow the instructions of Jesus, who washed the feet of his disciples at the Last Supper.

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Re: The Jesus Story

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Re: The Jesus Story

Post  KapitanScarlet on Tue 14 Jan 2014, 02:02

I think Dave analyses it most profoundly  Laughing 

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Re: The Jesus Story

Post  Sputnik on Thu 16 Jan 2014, 18:23

Funny, but he isn't discussing Jesus Christ.

Silly, scared people try to deny the greatest of all historical characters, but they are like nits leaping on a brontosaurus, how sad and foolish to think that any man could ever detract from Christ!



It is the goal of the NWO to kill the Christ and install Lucifer in His stead.

I don't think many historians deny the existence of Jesus. His existence is pretty well documented.

It's everything else about him that people doubt.
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Re: The Jesus Story

Post  tgII on Thu 16 Jan 2014, 22:25

Jesus said rather succinctly be careful about who you call your "father." Nothing
else really to comprehend after that.

So, who is your "father."
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Re: The Jesus Story

Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 18 Jan 2014, 02:35

Anyone read Mark 2 Gospel , I've heard there is insight messages accessible there hence i will check it out myself

Praise b to the maestro Jesus  Cool 
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Post  Sputnik on Sun 19 Jan 2014, 10:59

tgII wrote:Jesus said rather succinctly be careful about who you call your "father." Nothing
else really to comprehend after that.

So, who is your "father."

Exactly! Let me be subversive if not provocative by saying

Jesus Christ himself was true human and is God!

And I mean the Nostrum Jesum Christum & Spiritum Sanctum

not the freakmasonic worship of Lucifer:

"Flammas eius lúcifer matutínus invéniat: ille, inquam,
Lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus, (!!!)
qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus
illúxit, et vivit et regnat in sæcula sæculórum."

"Flaming Lucifer finds Mankind,
I say: Oh Lucifer who will never be defeated,
'CHRIST IS YOUR SON'
who came back from hell,
shed his peaceful light and is alive and
reigns in the world without end."

I bet Freakmasons really get a hard on now that they control catholic mass in the Vatican Rolling Eyes 

The holy trinity in the catholic version is:

1. Our Lady, blessed virgin mother [matrix] of God [not Maria so-and-so]
2. Jesus Christus [not Jesus of so-and-so]
3. Holy Ghost [not spiritus sanctus, the 'spirit that is yet to come']

And these are the 3 keys to the 'kingdom of heaven' so to speak.. Cool 



On another note: now that Sharon officially died in connection with this ominous prophesy about "the imminent arrival of their Messiah after Sharon's departure" they seem to go full nutty. Let's hope they won't destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque in anger when their Messiah won't show up...duh!

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/9292-israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mosque-and-climb-dome-of-the-rock
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Re: The Jesus Story

Post  bedido on Tue 21 Jan 2014, 16:45


how do those archons fit in ? Cz I kinda wiff a hint of Gnostic Master in the scan of your post. Is that your point about
the Pantera cub?
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Re: The Jesus Story

Post  Sputnik on Tue 21 Jan 2014, 23:11

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/21/monsignor-monsignor-nunzio_n_4637162.html

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-17/pope-francis-replaces-vatican-bank-board

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/10580939/Vatican-defrocked-400-priests-for-molesting-children.html

http://rt.com/news/davos-pope-francis-wealth-983/

This Pope Francis is purging the Archons, I am kind of irritated because he is a Jesuit?
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Wed 22 Jan 2014, 23:13

sometimes they have to trim a few branches of the tree for public transmutation of a little dirt into apparent justice , but its the tree thats gone rotten  Mad 
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Re: The Jesus Story

Post  Sputnik on Thu 23 Jan 2014, 23:55

The analogy sounds poetic but the freemasonic mafia bankers have been uprooted and removed.
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Post  KapitanScarlet on Sat 25 Jan 2014, 02:06

But the VAT city bank account still flowers no matter what sins against humanity , their preachers do, in the name of their and their donating herded sheeps lord
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