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Re: Johnny Liberty - Reclaiming Your Sovereign Citizenship

Post  tgII on Wed 17 Mar 2010, 02:12

A term to understand for the well being thread:

  • Fourier complex is an extreme form of egalitarianism in which the believer is prepared to accept, or actually wishes for, widespread poverty, possibly even starvation, as the consequence or means of making the material well being of every member of society equal.

    In aggravated or more candid instances, this ethic is admitted or even proclaimed by the adherent. In other cases, the belief is held unconsciously as a contingent value and/or it is denied by a person who in fact knows that he holds the view. The term was coined by Ludwig von Mises in his 1927 book Liberalism. He took it from the name of the famous French socialist Charles Fourier. In that the attitude does not accord with materialistic rationality or self-preservation, Mises regarded and described it as a neurosis, or psychological disorder. Triggered most commonly by envy, it embodies a misanthropic viewpoint that may be compared with the anti-human ethics of more-extreme instances of environmentalism, nationalism, and various other "isms" that can be emphasized beyond the point of providing benefit to the human race or even to the believer himself.

What I want to know is, who pathologized it, or a better description
would be, weaponized it for psychological warfare on our minds?
What a Face

So how do you take this term and apply it to your every day
circumstances, by using the analogy of the the dog in the manger.

  • The Dog in the Manger is a fable attributed to Aesop, concerning a dog who one afternoon lay down to sleep in the manger. On being awoken, he ferociously kept the cattle in the farm from eating the hay on which he chose to sleep, even though he was unable to eat it himself, leading an ox to mutter the moral of the fable:

    People often begrudge others what they cannot enjoy themselves.

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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 03 Aug 2010, 13:27

I guess it all legally starts at birth and the first document issued regarding your birth and existence...

Birth Certificate

tidbits from wikipedia entry...

A birth certificate is a vital record that documents the birth of a child.
The term "birth certificate" can refer to either the original document or a certified copy of or representation of the original record of birth. In most jurisdictions, the birth certificate is prima facie evidence that the birth occurred.

The documentation of births is a practice widely held throughout human civilization, especially in China, Egypt, Greece, Rome, and Persia. The original purpose of birth registration was for tax purposes and for the determination of available military manpower. Births were initially registered with churches, who maintained registers of births. This practice continued into the 19th century. The compulsory registration of births with governmental agencies is a practice that originated in the United Kingdom in 1853.

Most countries have statutes and laws that regulate the registration of births. In all countries, it is the responsibility of the mother's physician, midwife, hospital administrator, or the parents of the child to see that the birth is properly registered with the appropriate government agency.

The actual record of birth is stored with a government agency. That agency will issue certified copies or representations of the original birth record upon request, which can be used to apply for government benefits, such as passports. The certification is signed and/or sealed by the registrar or other custodian of birth records, who is commissioned by the government.

The right of every child to a name and nationality, and the responsibility of national governments to achieve this are contained in Articles 7 and 8 in the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child: “All children have the right to a legally registered name, and nationality” (CRC Article 7) and "Governments should respect children's right to a name, a nationality and family ties”/b]

[b]Birth registration opens the door to rights to children and adults which many other human beings take for granted: to prove their age; to prove their nationality; to receive healthcare; to go to school; to take exams; to be adopted; to protection from under-age military service or conscription; to marry; open a bank account; to hold a driving licence; to obtain a passport; to inherit money or property; and to vote or stand for elected office.

There are many reasons why births go unregistered, including social and cultural beliefs and attitudes; alternative documents and naming ceremonies; remote areas, poor infrastructure; economic barriers; lack of office staff, equipment and training; legal and political restrictions; fear of discrimination and persecution; war, conflict and unrest or simply the fact that there is no system in place.
Retrospective registration may be necessary where there is a backlog of children whose births have gone unregistered. In Senegal, the government is facilitating retrospective registration through free local court hearings and the number of unregistered children has fallen considerably as a result. In Sierra Leone, the government gave the National Office of Births and Deaths special permission to issue birth certificates to children over seven. In Bolivia, there was a successful three-year amnesty for the free registration of young people aged between 12 and 18.
Statelessness, or the lack of effective nationality, impacts the daily lives of some 11-12 million people around the world. Perhaps those who suffer most are stateless infants, children, and youth. Though born and raised in their parents’ country of habitual residence, they lack formal recognition of their existence.

The registration of births, marriages and deaths in the United Kingdom started in 1837, but at first there was no penalty for failing to register a birth. In the British system, all births are recorded in "registers", which have columns for various particulars of the birth, usually including the name of the child, sex, the names of the parents, the date of the birth, the location of the birth, and sometimes additional information such as the name of the attending physician, the race of the child, or the occupation of the parents. These birth registers are maintained by some government agency, who will issue certified copies or representations of the entry upon request.

Types of certified copies issued in England and Wales

Each "full" birth certificate issued is actually a certified copy of an entry from the register of births, which is held by the local Register office and at the General Register Office, Southport, pursuant to the Births and Deaths Registration Act of 1953. The full certificate is an exact copy of the entry, showing the child's surname, forename(s), date of birth, sex, place of birth, the parent(s) name(s), their address and occupations at the time of registration. Full certificates are required for most legal purposes.

In addition, one can obtain a "short" birth certificate, which is an abstract of the original entry and only includes the surname, forename(s), date of birth, sex, registration district and sub-district in which the birth took place. No fee is chargeable for this certificate at the time of registration. These documents are public records and copies can be purchased upon provision of all relevant information.

Birth certificates in the United States

In the U.S., the keeping of vital statistics is a state function, because it is not a power assigned by the Constitution to the federal government. Yet, the federal government is extremely dependent upon this state function because the Fourteenth Amendment expressly grounds American citizenship upon birth in the United States (a jus soli system of citizenship).

The federal and state governments have traditionally cooperated to some extent to improve vital statistics. From 1900 to 1946 the U.S. Census Bureau designed standard birth certificates, collected vital statistics on a national basis, and generally sought to improve the accuracy of vital statistics. In 1946 that responsibility was passed to the U.S. Public Health Service. Unlike the British system of recording all births in "registers", the states file an individual document for each and every birth. In most states this document is entitled a "Certificate of Live Birth".

The U.S. National Center for Health Statistics creates standard forms that are recommended for use by the individual states to document births. However, states are free to create their own forms. As a result, neither the appearance nor the information content of birth certificate forms is uniform across states. These forms are completed by the attendant at birth or a hospital administrator, which are then forwarded to a local or state registrar, who stores the record and issues certified copies when requested.

Long forms, also known as certified photocopies, book copies, and photostat copies, are exact photocopies of the original birth record that was prepared by the hospital or attending physician at the time of the child's birth. The long form usually includes parents' information (address of residence, race, birth place, date of birth, etc.), additional information on the child's birthplace, and information on the doctors who assisted in the birth of the child. The long form also usually includes the signature of the doctor involved and at least one of the parents.

Many states have begun to use Electronic Birth Registration systems. These systems enable information typically seen on certified copies (long forms) to be available in computer databases, thus eliminating the need for "hard copy" long form certificates and having all birth information stored in computer databases only.

Short forms, known sometimes as computer certifications, are not universally available, but are less expensive and more readily accessible. Information is taken from the original birth record (the long form) and stored in a database that can be accessed quickly when birth certificates are needed in a short amount of time. Whereas the long form is a copy of the actual birth certificate, a short form is a document that certifies the existence of such certificate, and is given a title such as "Certification of Birth", "Certification of Live Birth", or "Certificate of Birth Registration."[citation needed] The short form typically includes the child's name, date of birth, sex, and place of birth, although some also include the names of the child's parents. When the certification does include the names of the parents, it can be used in lieu of a long form birth certificate in almost all circumstances. Nearly all states in the U.S. issue short forms certifications, on both state and local levels.

Other forms
In addition to short forms and long forms, many registration authorities also have wallet-sized short form birth certifications available, and apostille/exemplified certifications which are hand signed by the registrar and are to be used when being presented before the government of a foreign country, pursuant to the 1961 Hague Convention. Other registration authorities will even issue commemorative certificates, many of which are legal certifications of birth.

Most hospitals in the U.S. issue a souvenir birth certificate which typically includes the footprints of the newborn. However, these birth certificates are not legally accepted as proof of age or citizenship, and are frequently rejected by the Bureau of Consular Affairs during passport applications. Many Americans believe the souvenir records to be their official birth certificates, when in reality they hold little legal value.

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Re: Johnny Liberty - Reclaiming Your Sovereign Citizenship

Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 03 Aug 2010, 16:38

Now here is the information commonly stated regarding the Birth Certificate...

Does The Jones Act Put Us Under Maritime Law?

Maritime Law: The Jones Act

There are two different kinds of Law on the planet.
The first is known as CIVIL LAW which is Law of the Land.
The other is Maritime Admiralty which is also known as the Law of Water, it can also be referred to as Banking Law.

Maritime Admiralty Law considers you a Maritime Admiralty Product simply because you were Birthed out of your mother's water. A ship sits in its Birth until the Captain gives a Certificate of Manifest to the Port Authorities.

The reason you are required to have a Birth Certificate is because at the time of your Birth there is an exchange of Money to cover hospital costs. The Dock signs your Birth Certificate simply because that is what the Ship is tied to, you will need a Dock to sign your Birth Certificate.

When you came down your mother's Birth Canal you came out of her Water, making YOU a Maritime Admiralty PRODUCT. That is right you became a PRODUCT of Commerce at the time of your Birth. Your mother also needs to sign your Birth Certificate, if you notice on your Birth Certificate where your mother signed, she is not listed as parent, nor is she listed as mother. Where your mother signed your Birth Certificate she is known as Informant!

What or who did my mother inform?

Your mother informed the Banks that she had just produced another Product to be used in Commerce. Your actual physical body is owned by England, actually to be more precise, your body is owned by the British Crown. That is the LAW!



If you look at your Social security Card, you will see Numbers in Red on the back of the card. The front of the card will be printed in either Blue or Black, but the numbers on the back will be in RED.

What are these numbers on the back of my Social security card?

These numbers which appear in Red on the back of your Social Security Card represent your body. Your body is bought and sold on Stock Markets, the Numbers In Red on the back of the card is the Serial Number of your Stock. Poor people are considered Common Stock and the Wealthy is known as Preferred Stock.

Just like any other Stock, your body is traded on open markets though the use of your Birth Certificate. If you could see your Original Certificate Of Birth, you would see on the back of the Certificate marks from Banks from all over the globe. World Banks trade your body just as they do every other Commodity. This is because you are Stock in a Maritime Admiralty Banking Scheme where you are used to return profits to the Bank.

Look at your Bills, check out your Drivers License, your Social Security Card, Utility Bills, anything with your name on it.

What do you see?

Any form that is used for Business purposes will have YOUR NAME in Capital Letters.
Anytime you are involved in Business Transactions, you will always see YOUR NAME in CAPITAL LETTERS. Only in this form are you able to deal with either Banks or the Government. Whenever Your Name is spelled with a combination of capital and lower case letters it refers directly to you as a Natural Person.

Since the Banks and Government has no control over Natural Born People they will not deal with you as a person. Only your Straw Man is able to engage in Commerce.

Once you sign a Contract which uses YOUR NAME in Capital Letters you have given your consent to this artificial entity. Now you can be brought into a Court.

When you find yourself in a Court you will be asked to stand before the Bench. In Latin the term for Bench is Banco or more simply put Bank. So a Judge sits on a Bench, they also Rule from the Bench. In other words the Judge rules for the Bank.

What do you mean the Judge rules from the Bank?

Whenever there is a case heard in a Court somebody is going to pay. That is right the Queen Of England gets a cut from the energy, time, and labor of the American People.

You are Property of the Queen of England as part of a Corporation whose name is the UNITED STATES. The President of this Corporation is also known as President Of The United States.

Once you educate yourself you will see that an American is not required to enter a British Commercial Venture known as Court. The only reason you appear in Court is because you give your Consent to appear.

If I receive a summons I have to go to court?

The question is did you receive the summons, or did your artificial Strawman receive it? Look at the summons and see how Your Name is spelled. If it is in CAPITAL LETTERS than this is not you the person, it is a Corporation belonging to Foreign Interests. The Corporation is not alive, it simply does not really exist at all and you cannot be held responsible for it unless you give your Consent.

There is absolutely no reason that an American needs to appear before British Grand Lodge Masonic System called Courts. Americans are deceived into believing that they must go to Court. Free People do not have to do anything! Only a Slave is required to answer to Court Orders.

The Federal Government serving on behalf of King's Commerce, has every intention of stripping the People of their Natural Born Rights,simply to replace them with State Granted Privileges.. Eliminating Common Law by getting them to believe in the Artificial Entity known as the Federal Government.

It provides an illusion of Fair Laws such as the 14th Amendment. It also is busy working on getting the People to rely on Government Services such as Welfare, Social Security and other State Sponsored Programs.

There are many illusions perpetrated on the American People such as Licensces, Permits, and Certificates. They also get People to believe in the worthless linen with green ink known as Federal Reserve Notes.

There is also a cacophony of Security Services that seem more than redundant. IRS/FBI/CIA/NSA/FEMA/Homeland Security

There are many Americans who believe that all these entities are necessary. Almost like they believe that without this army of Security Services they could not survive. This provides the Federal Government with a society that relies on the Government for their very lives, like they would not be able to live without it.

Thanks to our System of Lawyers, we have Hidden Contracts of this type. Until the People realize that a charade has been perpetrated on the Nation we have no hope of Freedom. We must first see, and then identify this system of Oppression.

Most People have not noticed or felt the Force of our Federal government. they are content to dabble in distractions provided by their Televisions and Computers. They count on the Media to inform them, that is a huge mistake.

There are other people who have had to enter into the King's Court of Law only to come out bewildered. Wondering what happened to the Rights they had believed existed under the Original Constitution.

Do the people of this forum support this view concerning the Birth Certificate and law or do you disagree?


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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 03 Aug 2010, 16:42

"This power is as extensive upon land as upon water. The Constitution makes no distinction in that respect. And if the admiralty jurisdiction, in matters of contract and tort which the courts of the United States may lawfully exercise on the high seas, can be extended to the lakes under the power to regulate commerce, it can with the same propriety and upon the same construction, be extended to contracts and torts on land when the commerce is between different States. And it may embrace also the vehicles and persons engaged in carrying it on (my note - remember what the law of the flag said when you receive benefits from the king.) It would be in the power of Congress to confer admiralty jurisdiction upon its courts, over the cars engaged in transporting passengers or merchandise from one State to another, and over the persons engaged in conducting them, and deny to the parties the trial by jury. Now the judicial power in cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction, has never been supposed to extend to contracts made on land and to be executed on land. But if the power of regulating commerce can be made the foundation of jurisdiction in its courts, and a new and extended admiralty jurisdiction beyond its heretofore known and admitted limits, may be created on water under that authority, the same reason would justify the same exercise of power on land." -- Propeller Genessee Chief et al. v. Fitzhugh et al. 12 How. 443 (U.S. 1851)

A signature shall be procured consistent with the following priorities:

1. 'Mother' is the preferred informant.

2. If mother is not available, then the hospital administrator in charge of the birth registration unit is the next preferred informant.

Birth certificate preparers should make a reasonable effort to obtain a mother's signature within 10 days of the birth. When a hospital administrator signs as informant, it is recommended that a notation be filed with the child's medical record, or other filing system, that indicates the reason a mother's signature could not be obtained.

Parents Not Married/ Acknowledgment of Parentage (and Affidavit of Non-Paternity, if appropriate)

A signature shall be procured consistent with the following priorities:

1. Both 'Parents' are the preferred informant.

2. If both parents are not available, then 'Mother' is the next preferred informant.

3. If mother is not available, then 'Father' is the next preferred informant.

4. If mother and father are not available, then the hospital administrator in charge of the birth registration unit is the next preferred informant.

Two signatures are required for the Acknowledgment (and Affidavit) form(s). In most cases the birth certificate should be prepared and signed at the same time. Parents must use the same signature, when signing as informant, that is used on the Acknowledgment and Non-Paternity forms. If both parents are not available (as when the acknowledgment/ affidavit is sent out of facility to obtain a signature), one parent's signature should be obtained. If acknowledgments/affidavits are correctly completed, but neither parent's signature can be obtained within 10 days of the birth, and no accommodation can be made to obtain the signatures within a reasonable extension, then a hospital administrator should sign the record as informant. It is recommended that documentation should remain with the child's medical record, or other filing system, that indicates the reason why a parent signature could not be obtained on the birth certificate. Notarized signatures on the Acknowledgment are sufficient to show that the name of the child, and other certificate information, is as the parents intended.

Question to the forum. Which person or persons have successfully separated themselves from the strawman and got out from under this system? I would think this type of thing were draw in a lot of talkers who want to charge for books and courses, but which of them really walks the walk on this one, so I can learn more about it and which steps must be taken and in which order to actually achieve it?

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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 03 Aug 2010, 16:55

The Corporation Of The United States Of America

Our nation went through a transformative event following the conflicts of the Civil War. The country had used all its credit and wealth on funding the war. It was in essence Bankrupt!

Through some fancy maneuvers done by International Bankers, European Interests put a yolk of debt and servitude on the American people. The Civil War had been financed and fought to put the young country under such a stranglehold. Simply to be able to use the energy, time, and labor of the population for its own greedy interests.

On the day of February 21, 1871 with the Forty-First Congress in session an Act was passed*. The title was "An Act To Provide A Government for the District of Columbia" also known as the "Act of 1871."

This Act stated that Congress, which it had no constitutional authority to do, created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia, which in reality is only a ten mile square piece of land.
The Swindle

The Congress knew that our country was bankrupt, so they made an arrangement with the International Bankers to run up a Debt to these Foreign Banks ( the Rothschilds of London were investing in many enterprises Globally).

One thing that everyone knows about banks is that they do not lend money simply to be kind. The only way that a Bank would enter into a contract is if it would benefit the Bank. Some kind of Collateral, or some kind of scheme that would put the population into servitude to the Banks would be necessary.

The sneaky and manipulating International Bankers would not lend money to our financially troubled nation without some stipulations. They came up with a devious scheme to gain control over the country that they had desired for a long time. The Founding Fathers detested these Foreign Entities and kept them at bay until the Act of 1871 was passed.

The Act formed the Corporation known as THE UNITED STATES. It is the capitalization that is important. This Corporation which was owned by Foreign Entities immediately did away with the original Constitution.

The Act of 1871 changed our Constitution. The title was Capitalized and the word "for" was changed to the word "OF" in the title.

"The Constitution for the united states of America" was written by the Founding Fathers. The international bankers had it changed to "THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA".

Corporate Constitution

It may look the same but it is not the same. The Corporate Constitution works on an economic level. It is used to trick the People into thinking it is the same Constitution for the Republic.


CAPITILIZATION, not important?

When dealing with a Legal Document it is very important. These small changes has had a direct impact on every generation born under its inception. When Congress passed the Act of 1871 it created an entirely new document. The new document would be a Constitution for the government for the District Of Columbia.

The government that was formed was a Corporation. This new and improved Constitution is not a document for America. It is a Constitution for the Corporation.

Was this done in the best interest of the Nation?


The Corporate Constitution is not for the good of the Republic, it is for the good of the Corporation. It does not benefit the populace of the country and it operates outside the parameters of the original Constitution.

Instead of guaranteeing your rights it offers you privileges. For example: Sovereign's right to travel, which under Corporate Government Policy has been changed into into a "privilege" and a license is required. This is in violation of the original Constitution.

By doing such a horrendous act Congress committed Treason against the People. Under the Declaration of Independence and the original Constitution the people were considered Sovereign Individuals.

What Is a Sovereign?

Before we discuss "Sovereign," let us try to figure out what it means.

Webster's Dictionary defines "sovereign" as:

1. chief or highest; supreme.

2. Supreme in power, superior in position to all others.

3. Independent of, and unlimited by, any other, possessing or entitled to, original and independent authority or jurisdiction.

The government of the United states of America was created by and for "sovereigns". The free people who were citizens of the country were deemed the highest authority. Only the People can be Sovereign. The Government cannot be sovereign. It can also be found in the Declaration of Independence, where it says "government is subject to the consent of the governed". That is the People in other words, us, the sovereigns.

Do you feel like a sovereign?

It does not take a constitutional scholar to see out that this is not the way it is in the country today. Government today does not seek or require the consent of those who are governed. It is more like the governed serve at the beckon call of the CORPORATION.

The same Corporation that has reached beyond the ten square miles assigned to it. The Corporation of the District of Columbia which is now infringing on the rights of the states. There is no jurisdiction for the corporation outside of its little ten miles of influence.

You Should Know The Law!

There is a presumption that every citizen should be aware of the law. This just seems a little unreasonable considering we are not taught anything about the law in school. Instead they make us memorize little facts and sayings. we are taught the Preamble, but the education system ignores the Bill Of Rights.

The Corporate Government Schools completely ignore the Law. Nor do they delve into the Constitution very deeply. The Corporate school system is not set up to provide a usable education, they are in place to indoctrinate and dumb down the population.

Nobody will tell you that your country was sold to Foreign Entities. Nor will they tell you that the people have inherited the debt incurred by Congress to International Bankers. Generations of American people have had their wealth confiscated to pay a debt that they, the People, did not incur.

Think about how the government has changed from a Municipal Entity into a Corporate Entity the next time you hear someone say the Constitution is no longer relevant. We are living a lie, we are being ruled by an unlawful government.
Roman Civil Law and Admiralty/Maritime Law

The Act of 1871, once passed created the illusion of Freedom. Congress willingly and knowingly sold out the American People and The Nation to Foreign Interests. The deceit was complete. This treasonous act brought the nation to its knees. Once the People were forced to surrender their Gold in 1933, the betrayal of the Republic was complete.

This is just a copy of Roman Civil Law, our Government is now based on Roman Civil Law and Admiralty/Maritime Law. Some other descriptions are "Divine Right of Kings" and "Law of the Seas".

Roman Civil Law was initiated into the colonies when the charters were written. Long before we ever existed as a Nation. This is also known as "Private International Law.
Private International Law, and not Common Law

The Constitutional Republic, which was created by the Original Constitution had Common Law as the law of the land. The District Of Columbia has a Government which was established by the Act of 1871, it uses Private International Law instead of Common Law.

A very important point to make is that Private International Law only can be utilized in the District Of Columbia. It is not supposed to be applicable within any of the States of the Union.

The Corporation is divided into different departments Justice Department, Treasury Department etc... People think these Departments are part of the Country.


These departments are all part of the CORPORATION Of THE UNITED STATES.**

They do not answer to the People under the Corporate Constitution and its Amendments operate outside the Original Constitutional Republic.

Do not think that the Corporation Of The United States is separate from the government. The Corporation is the Federal Government! IT IS THE GOVERNMENT!

That is right! Your Government is a Corporation! It is run under Roman Civil Law and operates outside of the Original Constitution!

"There is no way my Congressman knows this?"

Yeah Right!

Congress Is Aware Of The Deception

Congress knows exactly what happened Congress does not answer to the People. They answer first and foremost to the Corporation (aka. The United States) for which they are employees.

This is why illegal laws such as the income tax laws are not abolished. These so called Representatives are not OUR Civil Servants. They serve the Corporation only, you are merely the instrument that provides financing to them.

All the Committees and Sub-Committees that have been created by Congress all work in unison like a multi-headed Hydra to control all the Corporate Departments. Any actions by these Committees outside of the District Of Columbia is in complete violation of the LAW.

Once again, The Corporation Of The United States has absolutely NO JURISDICTION outside of The District Of Columbia. They have zero authority within any State of the Republic.
Ignorance Of The Law Is No Excuse

Your Government has no responsibility to inform you of this. In the United States there is a presumption that you should know the Law.

They know you are not aware of this, they know because they made sure you would not be taught this in Corporate Government controlled School Systems.

A Sovereign Individual has a right to have all information disclosed to them. A Slave is entitled to nothing other then what their controllers wish to allow them, at A Cost. Be very careful of accepting certain Benefits from the Corporation Of The United States as they come with a price.

Once again, You are presumed to KNOW THE LAW. If you are not aware of the Law it matters not to the Corporation. You cannot claim Ignorance as a reason you do not know the Law. It is your Responsibility and your Obligation to know how the Law is applied to YOU.

They depend on peoples lackadaisical approach to Knowledge of the Law. It makes their job easier. The distractions in Life lead People to allow Government to think for them.


The Government of the UNITED STATES is basically a Corporate Instrument of the International Bankers. In other words, YOU are owned by a Corporation from the time you are Birthed until the time of your death.

Everything you believe you own as property is a LIE! All your Assets, all your Property, even your Children are owned by the United States Corporation.

"You still do not believe it?"

Think about all those Bills you need to pay to the Government. Think of all the Taxes, all the Fines, Licenses, think of all the fees you are required to Pay. Do some Research on your own, read about the 14th amendment. Study the Act of 1871 and you will see how a great Nation of Sovereigns living in a Republic have been reduced to chattel of a democracy.

Under Roman Civil Law, because we were not aware of the facts, led to our Silence. The Silence of the People was misinterpreted as consent which left us to carry the burden of a Debt we did not Incur.

The People have been utterly deceived into still believing that we are a Sovereign People. Free and Independent, when the Truth is we are Slaves and Servants of the Corporation.

It Is Treason!

In 1871, the Forty-First Congress in essence committed Treason against the Sovereign People of the Republic of the United States. If there had been people of Honor in our Government this Ruse could have long ago been rectified. Instead the Lust for Money and Power has turned Honest men into Greedy Power Brokers.

"Could we forgive this aberration?"

Why should we! We have lost more Freedom then can be realized. All because of a Corporate Infiltration of the Federal Government.

The Constitutional Republic needs to be Restored. This facade of a democracy needs to come crumbling down.

Our men and women in uniform, who fight to preserve the ideals of a great country have been abused. They have fought, and often times died for a cause they were deluded into believing. Fighting in wars instigated by the Corporation to gain even more Power and Control worldwide.

Why would the People be willing to fight and die for a Corporate Interest that is not even of this country. Why fight a war initiated and funded through Foreign Bankers.

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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 03 Aug 2010, 17:17

Here is an example of an encounter where a free man on the land would have to play semantics and mental chess to stay on top of the fiction game and deal with da' man.
I am quite impressed with this man's ability to keep focus and on task.


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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Tue 03 Aug 2010, 17:26

Another example...

Damn. I don't know if I could develop myself to this point and be able to actually overcome legalities in a courtroom like this man has done.
It takes a lot of knowledge of information and procedures in advance of every possible scenario and how to combat them effectively or find your ass sitting in a cell...or worse.
This is interesting stuff.


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Post  tgII on Wed 04 Aug 2010, 04:23

Qsc, this is probably one of the most terrifying things to happen
to a person and it really comes down to refusing to contract
with this 'authority.'

It is all about commerce; this is the way its been for 4,000

You're correct, I don't know if I could handle this without first
becoming extremely knowledgeable about my standing
in this world.

This is what it comes down to: our standing, but standing where?
As citizens/subjects? Standing in a state we live in? Standing within

Although I have read MTSAR's critique of the Constitution, it isn't
helpful in a legal sense nor does it solve the issue of self-determina-
tion. Frankly, I really don't see people fully comprehending the
significance of self-determination; I don't think they deserve it
actually. Ever listen to MTSAR talking about the 'inner republic'?
He's referring to the 'nation' as an individual flesh and blood person.

To illustrate, we are not party to the Constitution (as Americans)
as several researchers have discovered pointing out that the 55
signers of that document were first, businessmen; they and they
alone decided they were not going to tolerate the King's infringement
on their right of self-determination and wrote the Constitution for
themselves and their posterity. We are not that posterity, and if any
American walks into a court with a copy of the Constitution claiming
protection under this document they will be arrested and imprisoned.

All judges know this; you are condemned as soon as you walk in
their court room.

This is illegal representation and a false claim and a person will be
imprisoned as there already are ample cases to illustrate this. As an
example, I took a quote from you, Qsc, an earlier post and will add to
it, hopefully we can all learn something here.

Also, on that quote above making reference to what the SSN
number is; it is not what people think it is, those nine digits
represent a bank issued to a person making contract.

The Declaration of Independence is a tort claim, that's all it is, against
the King; it took years for these 33 men to get this legal document
approved despite what we have been taught. Once it was approved,
they hired an army to enforce their contract against the king; that
effectively means those men they hired - the patriots - were
mercenaries just like the Army is today. If they loose a leg in a war in
Iraq they have no right to bitch under their contract.

It's all about business, it always has been, and to say that you want
to be left alone by this world is insanity; this is earth, nobody gets
'left alone' on earth. Once people understand this they will start
working together; until then, people will continue to go at each
other with their stupid opinions, vexing problems and petty
differences. It is childish and absolutely stupid for people not to
be working together.

  • Question to the forum. Which person or persons have successfully separated themselves from the straw man and got out from under this system? I would think this type of thing were draw in a lot of talkers who want to charge for books and courses, but which of them really walks the walk on this one, so I can learn more about it and which steps must be taken and in which order to actually achieve it?

Since this was a question to the forum, I would answer
with probably very few people know how to do this; and
those who are sitting in prison because they became
involved with one of these charlatans offering to help them
achieve sovereign status, often in more cases than not,
attempted to claim standing with the UCC as a subject/citizen.

Here is the best definition of exactly what a 'straw man' is:

  • The Straw Man is the “accom­mo­da­tion party” of UCC 3 — 415. The name is credit. (see Blacks 6th. “Accom­mo­da­tion party” and “Straw Man”). There­fore the right (or the use) has been sep­a­rated from the title (or deed). The ““straw man” holds the title (and “he/it” belongs to the government’s client who bought the bond/title) and the flesh and blood man has only naked pos­ses­sion with the lim­ited “right” to use the thing (like his body or his alleged pos­ses­sions and land, which now becomes “usury” of another title/property).

You have no stand­ing to use the UCC for any­thing as a

Go to my blog and start reading what I am posting there by
clicking on the 'Uniform Commercial Code' at the top. But before
you do, scroll down on the front page and look at the pictures I
have posted showing the word 'subject' was erased and the word
'citizen' used instead on the Declaration of Independence:

E pluribus unum

The Law of Nations was in place well before the Constitution was
ever written but how many people realize this is the key to your
standing in this world; as well as understanding treaties and

Read the following from my blog about the Law of Nations:

  • § 2. It [nation] is a moral person.

    Such a society has its own affairs and interests; it deliberates and takes resolutions in common, and it thus becomes a moral person having an understanding and a will peculiar to itself, and susceptible at once of obligations and of rights.

The 'state' is a 'moral person.' Our rights as a state have
been contracted away from us and turned over to the collective
state which defines who or what we are: "property and
resources of the state."

  • The ulti­mate own­er­ship of all prop­erty is in the State; indi­vid­ual so-called “own­er­ship” is only by virtue of Gov­ern­ment, i.e. law, amount­ing to mere user, and use must be in accor­dance with law and sub­or­di­nate to the neces­si­ties of the State.

    SENATE RESOLUTION NO. 62; Doc­u­ment #43 (pg 9, Para­graph 2) April 17, 1933


  • A very sophis­ti­cated form of peonage-servitude and the Con­sti­tu­tion does not apply because the gov­ern­ment, on all lev­els, is thrown into inter­na­tional com­merce, the law mer­chant, now known as the Uni­form Com­mer­cial Code. [See Pub­lic Law 88 — 244 in which the U.S. Sub­scribed to pri­vate inter­na­tional law. See def­i­n­i­tion of “goods” under the UCC at 2 — 105 (1) and 9– 105 (1) in which ani­mals, i.e. — humans and their unborn off­spring, become “goods” sell­able in commerce.]

Citizens/subjects are literally 'enemies of the state' when we
attempt claiming rights to legal documents we are not party to;
we are 'terrorists' and they have defined us as such which is why
this system wars on us.

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Post  KapitanScarlet on Wed 04 Aug 2010, 11:54

I checked out that Gloucester court vid, and im highly impressed by that performance, this is excellent to witness , challenging the innate corruptness that has escaped most peoples intentions in many fields of society , because most people just lie down and get trampled on, its more expected that the powers that form societys laws become complacent in trying to visualise all possible rebunks of each law and there are many many inconsistencies and outright corruption and falsities camouflaged under the forces of societal laws with limited conscious people administering those laws in a power-bloated conveyor like fashion , never expecting any form of challenge

Going to court is a nerve racking experience and the only way to overcome those nerves is too research all the possibilities and probabilities in relation to the current law, and then by doing so , certitude is gained about the most probable outcome, although one never can be sure when dealing with "obscure and almost unknown laws" with little research info available about them, but nevertheless , research and innovation is the key to certitude and receiving true justice ...whatever that may be to each self Smile

bUt this legal area of how a citizen is interpreted by its nation is highly fascinating and i think the internet is showing its true value in many of these areas .


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Post  quicksilvercrescendo on Wed 04 Aug 2010, 13:40

What is even more amazing is when the court stormtroopers or even the police are called in ready to take this guy away in shackles that they actually have the patience to hear the guy out and the where-with-all to sense he is right and not just drag him away under arrest.
That is the incredible part is that the court judges-magistrates order the removal or arrest of this guy and their attack dogs attempt to convince him verbally, but do not physically arrest or remove him. They show great patience and understanding in performing their oaths. And by doing so, justice actually gets served. Meanwhile, these black coat wearing vampires are busting a blood vessel over the fact that the charade is just that.

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Post  KapitanScarlet on Thu 05 Aug 2010, 01:39

A classic representation of the power of Yin expression in that the challenger absolutely resisted any temptation to become yang evoked and thus raise the danger level of an emotionally incited intellectual error, which the court officials were attempting to arouse in him

Emotion must only follow as a byproduct of the certitude of the intellect in the courtroom and not be aloud to lead the intellect , this retains the power of the ego at its optimum , respectful of the present ambient societal restrictions but absolutely resolute in its endeavour and intention to complete its task

Many people become intellectually undone from the arousing of toxic emotions which often are enflamed through their ego being taken out of synch with their self so to speak

I like the way the challenger was very clear , concise and icicle calm in his replies allowing the power of the words to sink deep into these court officials like depth chargers whereby then they explode in an awesome yang effect inside their minds as the truth always does when it penetrates and reveals to a self its false belief.


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Post  KapitanScarlet on Thu 05 Aug 2010, 10:47

Checked out the Raymond St Clair and the Menard Vids , superb, innovative thought put into serious action

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Post  highnoon on Sat 07 Aug 2010, 18:47

I have a collection agency that calls me almost every day.

I started work months ago somewhere and myself and the regional director who were parked side by side got tickets for being there for more than 3 hours. but we were employees. so we had the store owner of where we were working and training ask the property manager to look into it but she never did cause she was on her way out. so the tickets went to collections and the new property manager cant reverse it for some reason.

I owe them nothing I wasn't informed of the rules, I had parked there for like 2 weeks before i got the ticket and stayed for 6-8 hours each time. nobody at my store objected to any of us parking there.
so how does a unilateral contract mean anything. I tell them. Stop calling me...maybe you can collect when im dead. the last collecter was so flamboyant and confident on the other end must have been a supervisor. his name was Mario and i think hes filipino. anyway i say stop calling me. and he goes "Sir, well have you paid your bill?" "when you pay your bill we can stop calling you its that easy"

i got really mad at the "your" part. its not my bill. lol

I gotta try this im going to make "rules" for my property where i live. its for any person who walks on my land and they are fined 1 dollar for every step they take in excess of 5 steps. if you want to get on my dads property and get off you better do it in 5 steps or less or we're going to fine you if we catch you. and if you dont pay it. a collection agency can call you for the rest of your life. ill even give it to a police officer if he comes by. the sign will be in my backyard behind the compost attached to the back of the birdhouse. if you didnt see it or read it its your fault. its going to have a clause "this sign doesnt need to be read for you to be binded to the rules herein. this being my property and having the sign is sufficient enough. when you get your bill please pay your bill to me. remember the money isnt yours anymore its mine so please pay it right away and be respectful of myself and my property. if you dont pay youre a fucking jackass."

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Post  tgII on Sun 08 Aug 2010, 14:04

Flames, a very insightful post on money and banking.

Watch this video, or the series of seven if you want, they/it is
incredibly revealing:

In the first video 'speaking at guild clubs' and the mentor
and personal secretary of Prince Charles' son is 'special services.'

The City of London is pure evil, it knows no right or wrong, just
corruption; this is the legacy of Bertrand Russell, Aldous Huxley and
Aleister Crowley. There are very few people outside of Britain who
are aware or understand what the Worsipful Company of Liveries
are, in fact, no one I am aware of.

When you look through the list of Livery Companies provided at
the hot link, go slowly through the list and you will notice a few of
obvious consequence to this thread.

Prince Charles mentioned 'speaking at the Guild Clubs', so obviously
these guilds have control in the City of London. On a deeper level,
something much more devastating is going on here. When they go
into the guilds there is no right or wrong, just corruption, and this is
why they support their charities - store fronts - takes the guilt away;
like confessing to a Jesuit for committed and future sins.

Here is one Livery Company in the City of London: The Worshipful
Company of Tax Advisers
and this is its coat of arms:

  • The Worshipful Company of Tax Advisers - Coat of Arms

  • Number Ten Downing Street

The Roman numeral for ten is 'X'. 'X' marks the spot.

The City of London is based on Venice; the heart of Venice's power
was a city within a city called an 'Arsenal.' It was founded in the
thirteenth century and it concentrated solely on shipbuilding and
armaments. A maritime power which is where maritime law comes
from just like presently from the City of London.

The physics is fascinating because it was the Filioque that Venice
was at war against. In Joseph Farrell's work the Filioque, he goes into
great detail the reasons why the great split occurred between Eastern
Orthodox and the Catholic Church; it has more to do with physics than

This is one of the most fascinating inquiries imaginable, and all the
while down through history we are fighting among ourselves over
politics , religion, race, food, pollution, global warming, this banking
oligarchy has been creating money as a weapon to monopolize all
trade; this is what Venice excelled at and is now what is centered in
London including these Livery Companies. It was this same banking
cabal that created both factions between the Catholic Church and
the reformation - astounding including every war over the past
one-thousand years.


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Post  tgII on Mon 09 Aug 2010, 01:12

Flames, let's see what we can come up with, but first, a quote
of mine from the previous post after doing some looking around:

The City of London is based on Venice; the heart of Venice's power
was a city within a city called an 'Arsenal.' It was founded in the
thirteenth century and it concentrated solely on shipbuilding and
armaments. A maritime power which is where maritime law comes
from just like presently from the City of London.

And here they are today in the representative form of a sports

  • Arsenal Football Club (pronounced /ˈɑrsənəl, ˈɑrsnəl/) (often simply known as Arsenal or The Arsenal, or by their nickname The Gunners) is an English professional football club based in Holloway, North London.

Babylon (the 'baby lion') in my view is actually a war of epistemology;
the cabbalists after infiltrating England between 1509-1715 began using
symbols to war (semiotics)on people. Understand the symbols and how
they are being used to war on you is the first step.

That the Rothschild believe they are 'half man - half god', comes from a
point of departure when Aristotle was translated directly into Latin and
then English, as Joseph Farrell, I think, has pointed out. You derive two
completely different interpretations of science and philosophy; I think
what has tragically happened is that religion has been stripped from
philosophy. If this didn't happen, my understanding physics would
have been included in the equation for truly understanding our world
and existence.

What happened was a tremendous hatred of mankind which is a typical
oligarchical outlook towards humanity. The Royal Society of England,
started by Elias Ashmole and Robert Boyle, corrupted science by basing
their knowledge entirely on empiricism. Empirisim is the face of these
characters ('evil'), the belief that the only thing you can know is what
is verified directly by your senses.

Read Edgar Allan Poe's essay Eureka, he completely destroyed this
'scientific dictatorship' of the Royal Society and its oligarchical scientific

But, this all goes back much further, all the way back to the Venetian
University of Padua, this is where this epistemology originated from;
an epistemology for the elite. As an example, the use of pure Aristotle
translated into Latin and then later English, were the Venetians who
used Aristotle's philosophy to provide justification for slavery. Venice
became the greatest slave-trading state in history. Yes, ideas do have
consequences, so does philosophy.

It is said that "Italians are the only people similar to Jews." Yes, in fact,
for those who read, try on a size of Christopher Marlowe's The Jew of
. Everyone has read it or heard about it but without some kind of
understanding of this history or knowledge it is meaningless, just a stupid
story of a greedy Jew. I'm afraid this play cost Marlowe his life, just after
he wrote this he was assassinated because he presented to the world
through his plays the way of Venice.

Remnants from Venice's Liutprand was the King of the Lombards showing
clearly that the way of Venice immigrated into the City of London's
Lombard Street.

Guess what company handles pretty much of all the world's insurance
and reinsurance on shipping, that's right, Lloyd's of London. And guess
where Lloyd's of London office's are located; on Lombard Street.

In this story there is a character named Barabas and he is highly skilled
in the Venetian art of turning one's adversaries against each other to
protect oneself. But Barabas foolishly fails to realize that he himself is
a puppet of gamemasters at a higher level: The Knights of Malta for
whom he performs as a money lender and financial wheeler and dealer.

Interesting, the character Barabas (named after Barrabas) is the first
play depicting an actual psychopath.

In Marlowes' other play called The Tragical History of the Life and Death
of Dr. Faustus
, Marlowe clearly exposes the trickery (the character
Mephistopheles) and cunning which is the way of Venice even down to
this very day now sitting on the throne in the City of London.

Flames, you are right, this is a terribly long and very complex history
to understand, but we are still living in it.


One more thing, here is the best I have been able to read concerning
the reconciliation of science and religion; posted once before but nobody
reads this stuff. Just mind blowing and confirms much. Most people
read this stuff and after they do, sort of shake their head in complete
befuddlement and say, 'Huh?' This is what both the church and science
have been hiding from us:

Reconciliation of science and religion

Flames, there's actually some very good material here; Icke tends
to write astounding summaries (he's usually about 90 or 95%
correct in his assertions, and is a brilliant researcher/synthesist).

"German royal family" ties in with the "Holy Roman Empire", which
involves the Teutonic Knights (a Templar order).

Danish/North German tribes in Britain would be the Angles, Saxons,
and Jutes.... The British are a mongrel race: Germany has been a part
of the equation from way, way back
(along with many other geographical
strands). The Germans in the British Isles predate the Normans (1066),
really. George I was the first modern German-British monarch, following
the Dutch William of Orange/Bank of England crowd.

Imagine that, George I a German and King of Great Britain and Ireland?!
The Bank of England is the model from which all modern banks are taken.

The Nazi International, Flames, goes all the way back to Rome too,
I might add.


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Post  tgII on Mon 09 Aug 2010, 04:46

That's right, Qsc, The ANGLO-NAZI international. This may stem
largely from the merchant bankers of the Hanseatic League,
along with the Teutonic Knights.

It seems obvious that George I was their man. The Dutch (House
of Orange) rule of Great Britain (1688-) was transitional. And the
rest is sauerkraut.

But international banksters have no home or national allegiance.

I think the northern Europeans overwhelmed the southern (meaning
Italy/Vatican) a long time ago. The Hanseatic League merchants along
with the British Imperial fleet and the Dutch took over commerce....

You can see it with the current pope and the head of the SMOM: it's
quite blatant that they're serving as Vatican placeholders until the time
is ripe to make a move from the Roman stage. Has a lot to do with
Israel/Jerusalem. It seems evident that the City of London's the centre
of the spiderweb. Switzerland is a Bank masquerading as a country
(there's a reason why citizens are obliged to be armed there!).

I would keep an eye out for a rapprochement between the Chinese
mandarins (looks like they sent there man to make a mess of Wall Street
with David Li) and the Dalai Lama: if and when those forces join, it will be
a big deal. (It sounds unlikely now, I know: but hold that thought.)

Wealth movement has largely to do with occult geopolitical designs, I
believe. It involves Masonic/Luciferian global strategy: and it's certainly
opportunistic (like banksters). Some rough beast slouching towards
Bethlehem to be born....WWIII to bring it into existence...fucking duck
for cover...

Flames, you got all this?

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